I love hearing about people complaining how weak or underpowered the 6.5 x 52 Carcano is, then gush all over the 6.5 x 55 Swede. A 140 grain .264 bullet from the 6.5 Swede moving at 2,600 fps or a .266 160 grain bullet from the Carcano at 2,300 fps. I doubt the human body would know the difference when it comes to being shot.
Part of the reason for this is the much superior quality of workmanship of the Swede. They are considered by many to be the highest quality military bolt ever produced.
The 6.5x55 is about the same power as the 7.62x39. How many years has the AK performed with the same power, did it not find a good place in history? troops could carry more rounds, and work the trenches better than the longer rifles. I wasn't sure until i shot the carbine, it was a great day, i have to love it. I think Ill get the TS as well.
Exactly. People love the Swede, as in all fairness its a better, sleeker rifle. But the ballistic performance difference is inconsequential and the Carcano was the best rifle Italy who at the time was the least industrialized western European nation could do. And it wasn't bad.
They never mentioned the accuracy issues introduced by improper bullet sizing in commercial 6.5mm Carcano loadings. It used a .268 bullet diameter, rather than the most common .264 6.5mm bullets used in almost every other 6.5mm rifle.
That really sucks, because I loaded up some 6.5 mm Carcano loads, and I don't recall the loading manual mentioning that it needed a .268 inch projectile...I loaded it with .264 projectiles...I'll pull the damn things if I can find some ,268 projectiles after confirmation your info is accurate...This would explain the 10-12 MOA when testing the Oswald rifle...for the Warren Report...which is a total work of fiction.
@@dennispfeifer7788 Are you aware that at least 3 secret service agents (Warren Commission testimony) and one deputy sheriff said that shots 2 and 3 were almost simultaneous. Difficult to do with a bolt action rifle.
@@jason200912 if i remember correctly the scope was a fixed 4 power with a 3/4 inch tube made in japan. japanese scopes in 1963 were know for their quality : ). also i think the scope was offset to allow for loading the clip. i had a ted williams 3030 rifle that i put a scope on. it was offset. it's difficult to put your cheek on the stock while looking thru the scope when it is offset.
car- c-Ah-no not car- cay-no. 3:07 incorrect, 3:13 correct. You can tell when people don't care about a subject when they don't bother to pronounce it correctly.
Due to the large surplus market and the long/skinny bullet it was a good, cheap brush gun, it is said that more African game were taken with the 6.5 cartridge than any other single caliber.
Always have liked the Carcano, & indeed all the Mannlicher rifles. I personally like the en bloc clip loading system more than Mauser style stripper clips. It just seems more sure & positive when reloading to me.
It may have a faster action but can a round be ejected and another round loaded and hit a moving target at 266 feet in 3/4 of a second like Lee Harvey Oswald was suppose to have ?
Sounds like its equivalent to the 6.5 Swedish or 6.5 Japanese or 6.5 Creedmoor etc... Does anyone know on how good the Italian 6.5 Carcano caliber is good for hunting ?
160gr bullet going at 2100(carbine) fps to 2300+ for the longer rifles. If you can’t take out game with that you have some serious marksmanship issues. With any of the 6.5 cartridges really
6 round En-Bloc clips. Rather different, but only because of its capacity. The Austro-Hungarian Empire used Mannlicher rifles with 5 round En-Bloc clips.
My carcano is definitely not fast to operate. The bolt gets hung up in multiple places and just feels bad in operation. My mauser model 1891 feels far better and was designed at the same time. Really shows a higher quality
A listen I have a gardon carcano from world war II I also have a type 38 type I Japanese hybrid both in 6.5 I love to reload and shoot them there's nothing wrong with these guns it's just people are crazy it's not a German rifle or English Lee Enfield perfectly working rifle in a great caliber and being from Italian descent has nothing to do with what I'm saying yeah right
So... (at the end there.) You're saying Oswald most likely couldn't have taken those shots with the cheap, mail order & poorly scoped Carcano rifle? Yeah, I think I heard somethin like that before somewhere else 🤔 Funny how he never made it to trial, huh? 😲 Just c'mon out n say it guys, nobody gonna get mad at y'all...
How can you not? It was used to murder arguably the most powerful person in the world at the time, and also intertwined into the biggest, most popular, and famous conspiracy theories of all time.
And they know there's no way the slow 6.5 bullet made that exit wound it had to be a faster bullet smaller maybe 223 and an AR-15 from the secret service agent who panicked that's what I read
should be ..'' I have this old shit rifle = carcano '' ..which is so good it can do head shots at moving targets with loose side mount $ crap scope .....and shoots faster then a semi auto ..and the sold hard cast slow moving round will explode like a 3000fps h.p. ..
Did you know that almost every commercial load uses the wrong diameter bullet? Carcano rifles were made for .268 bullets. Commercial loads are always made with .264 bullets unless advertised otherwise. Spread the word. I wish more people knew.
@@leonardodisavino6166 non era male,i difetti che credo aveva a parer mio eano il sistema di mira e un munizione un po debole.tutto risolvibile beninteso. comunque sparare una cartuccia molto piu potente come quelle tedesche o europee in pratica non serviva a nulla se non ad ammaccarsi la spalla.era rustico economico efficace. io avrei personalmente aggiunto un meccanismo per espellere la clip una volta esaurita verso l'alto,tipo garand insomma.
The rifle is never going to gain any respect from shooters and collectors because everyone knows that the average Italian serviceman during WW2 wasn't brave or dedicated. The Italian military was known for being cowards. Nobody will ever respect them and it's because of that, their rifles are basically worthless on the surplus market.
you are just an ignoramus. the warehouses of the Italian army have sold almost all of their stock, right in the United States. in america there are a lot of collectors who have at least one. as for the alleged "cowardice" of the royal army, both in russia and in africa, we covered the retreat of the Germans, while the children of the "HIGHER RACE" ran away in front of the Russians and the British. you are just the usual shit, who talks about other peoples, when it is very likely that you have never even left your country. be quiet!!!
That is the most racist and ignorant statement I've heard in 50 years. Saying that a whole nation consists of cowards...it's untrue and you know it. They had several Divisions in North Afrika that Rommel considered first rate. You should apologize to the world for making that statement...it's 100% wrong.
@@occhiodisauron25 Sir. Attached is the message I sent to that ignorant idiot disparaging the Italian Army in WWII: "That is the most racist and ignorant statement I've heard in 50 years. Saying that a whole nation consists of cowards...it's untrue and you know it. They had several Divisions in North Afrika that Rommel considered first rate. You should apologize to the world for making that statement...it's 100% wrong". God Bless You sir for speaking out and opposing him....I did not even get into the Stalingrad battle with the idiot.
The fact you are calling the "average" Italian serviceman basically an undedicated coward is ignorant and flat wrong. The Italian soldier of WW2 was, in fairness not as vested in the conflict as others- but they did the best they could, often very successfully- despite the poor leadership of the higher command and often substandard equipment and a industrial base that could not support total war. There were plenty of brave Italian soldiers- many paid for their bravery with their lives. Its people like you who have been repeating the same foolish tropes for 70 years that are the real problem. Not the Carcano
I have several Carcano, and like them for the history. Included in my collection is a 7.35 Cal. Sold to and issued by the Finnish Army [SA]
I love hearing about people complaining how weak or underpowered the 6.5 x 52 Carcano is, then gush all over the 6.5 x 55 Swede. A 140 grain .264 bullet from the 6.5 Swede moving at 2,600 fps or a .266 160 grain bullet from the Carcano at 2,300 fps. I doubt the human body would know the difference when it comes to being shot.
Part of the reason for this is the much superior quality of workmanship of the Swede. They are considered by many to be the highest quality military bolt ever produced.
The 6.5x55 is about the same power as the 7.62x39. How many years has the AK performed with the same power, did it not find a good place in history? troops could carry more rounds, and work the trenches better than the longer rifles. I wasn't sure until i shot the carbine, it was a great day, i have to love it. I think Ill get the TS as well.
Exactly. People love the Swede, as in all fairness its a better, sleeker rifle. But the ballistic performance difference is inconsequential and the Carcano was the best rifle Italy who at the time was the least industrialized western European nation could do. And it wasn't bad.
You showed a Steyr M95 drawing instead of a Carcano.
True. At 2.32 the illustration is a Austrian Mannlicher rifle & bayonet Model 1895.
Haha didn't notice that did they really did not notice that
2:32
I love carcano rifles & carbines
Well it was not the rifle the Italians wanted but it was the one they needed
I love how at 2:32 they show a picture of an Austrian Steyr Model 1895! C’mon NRA!
They never mentioned the accuracy issues introduced by improper bullet sizing in commercial 6.5mm Carcano loadings. It used a .268 bullet diameter, rather than the most common .264 6.5mm bullets used in almost every other 6.5mm rifle.
That really sucks, because I loaded up some 6.5 mm Carcano loads, and I don't recall the loading manual mentioning that it needed a .268 inch projectile...I loaded it with .264 projectiles...I'll pull the damn things if I can find some ,268 projectiles after confirmation your info is accurate...This would explain the 10-12 MOA when testing the Oswald rifle...for the Warren Report...which is a total work of fiction.
Exactly
The Oswald rifle was likely because of a loose cheapo scope meant for bb guns.
@@dennispfeifer7788 Are you aware that at least 3 secret service agents (Warren Commission testimony) and one deputy sheriff said that shots 2 and 3 were almost simultaneous. Difficult to do with a bolt action rifle.
@@jason200912 if i remember correctly the scope was a fixed 4 power with a 3/4 inch tube made in japan. japanese scopes in 1963 were know for their quality : ). also i think the scope was offset to allow for loading the clip. i had a ted williams 3030 rifle that i put a scope on. it was offset. it's difficult to put your cheek on the stock while looking thru the scope when it is offset.
car- c-Ah-no not car- cay-no. 3:07 incorrect, 3:13 correct. You can tell when people don't care about a subject when they don't bother to pronounce it correctly.
Due to the large surplus market and the long/skinny bullet it was a good, cheap brush gun, it is said that more African game were taken with the 6.5 cartridge than any other single caliber.
Always have liked the Carcano, & indeed all the Mannlicher rifles. I personally like the en bloc clip loading system more than Mauser style stripper clips. It just seems more sure & positive when reloading to me.
He could make the shot and the rifle was capable to do the job at that range.
The Carcono is a excellent rifle same as the Arisaka both rifles have a bad reputation and ammo is very hard to come by .
The caliber is extremely noteworthy and a sleeper. Those who know, really know.
I've aquired a barreled action for a 91/24 Carcano that I now need a stock for, any help from you would be greatly appreciated, please?
Check out Numrich Gun Parts Corp or Liberty Tree Collectors.
It may have a faster action but can a round be ejected and another round loaded and hit a moving target at 266 feet in 3/4 of a second like Lee Harvey Oswald was suppose to have ?
Sounds like its equivalent to the 6.5 Swedish or 6.5 Japanese or 6.5 Creedmoor etc... Does anyone know on how good the Italian 6.5 Carcano caliber is good for hunting ?
160gr bullet going at 2100(carbine) fps to 2300+ for the longer rifles. If you can’t take out game with that you have some serious marksmanship issues. With any of the 6.5 cartridges really
I have been interested in putting a scope on mine have any ideas on how to?
Great one. They say 6.5 is too small but a 5.56 is much different? Im.sure it can go 1000 yards on a good day.
Car-cay-no? No Khar-kaaah-noooooo!
I'd love to be able to even find an M38. I've been looking for well over a year, and still no dice.
You guys should have picked a better thumbnail
1891 was the sane year that Imperial Russia adopted the 3-line rifle..both lasted through WW II..
6 round stripper clips ...unique
6 round En-Bloc clips. Rather different, but only because of its capacity. The Austro-Hungarian Empire used Mannlicher rifles with 5 round En-Bloc clips.
hello john! lol
Misread, thought it said I'm an old FUDD
My carcano is definitely not fast to operate. The bolt gets hung up in multiple places and just feels bad in operation. My mauser model 1891 feels far better and was designed at the same time. Really shows a higher quality
A listen I have a gardon carcano from world war II I also have a type 38 type I Japanese hybrid both in 6.5 I love to reload and shoot them there's nothing wrong with these guns it's just people are crazy it's not a German rifle or English Lee Enfield perfectly working rifle in a great caliber and being from Italian descent has nothing to do with what I'm saying yeah right
The way the editor is pronouncing it is driving me nuts!
So... (at the end there.) You're saying Oswald most likely couldn't have taken those shots with the cheap, mail order & poorly scoped Carcano rifle? Yeah, I think I heard somethin like that before somewhere else 🤔 Funny how he never made it to trial, huh? 😲 Just c'mon out n say it guys, nobody gonna get mad at y'all...
The Americans have to mention Kennedy every time talking of this gun.
How can you not? It was used to murder arguably the most powerful person in the world at the time, and also intertwined into the biggest, most popular, and famous conspiracy theories of all time.
what are they supposed to do, be pc for assholes like you
Italians too!!
And they know there's no way the slow 6.5 bullet made that exit wound it had to be a faster bullet smaller maybe 223 and an AR-15 from the secret service agent who panicked that's what I read
What would you rather talk about, scenes from Brokeback Mountain ?
And Plus The m38 was used in the JFK Assassination.
TH-cam The Mauser that never was.....
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mannlicher schennauer of the greek army was a much better rifle than this
But it was harder to produce
These guys really do not know what they’re talking about
Right? Wtf is this garbage?!
lol
should be ..'' I have this old shit rifle = carcano '' ..which is so good it can do head shots at moving targets with loose side mount $ crap scope .....and shoots faster then a semi auto ..and the sold hard cast slow moving round will explode like a 3000fps h.p. ..
amen
Had one back in the 70s, fair dinkum you couldn't hit the broad side of a bloody barn with it. Not a fan.
Did you know that almost every commercial load uses the wrong diameter bullet? Carcano rifles were made for .268 bullets. Commercial loads are always made with .264 bullets unless advertised otherwise. Spread the word. I wish more people knew.
@@shockwave6213 Thanks for defending the rifle of my country
@@leonardodisavino6166 non era male,i difetti che credo aveva a parer mio eano il sistema di mira e un munizione un po debole.tutto risolvibile beninteso. comunque sparare una cartuccia molto piu potente come quelle tedesche o europee in pratica non serviva a nulla se non ad ammaccarsi la spalla.era rustico economico efficace. io avrei personalmente aggiunto un meccanismo per espellere la clip una volta esaurita verso l'alto,tipo garand insomma.
The rifle is never going to gain any respect from shooters and collectors because everyone knows that the average Italian serviceman during WW2 wasn't brave or dedicated. The Italian military was known for being cowards. Nobody will ever respect them and it's because of that, their rifles are basically worthless on the surplus market.
you are just an ignoramus. the warehouses of the Italian army have sold almost all of their stock, right in the United States. in america there are a lot of collectors who have at least one.
as for the alleged "cowardice" of the royal army, both in russia and in africa, we covered the retreat of the Germans, while the children of the "HIGHER RACE" ran away in front of the Russians and the British. you are just the usual shit, who talks about other peoples, when it is very likely that you have never even left your country. be quiet!!!
That is the most racist and ignorant statement I've heard in 50 years. Saying that a whole nation consists of cowards...it's untrue and you know it. They had several Divisions in North Afrika that Rommel considered first rate. You should apologize to the world for making that statement...it's 100% wrong.
@@occhiodisauron25 Sir. Attached is the message I sent to that ignorant idiot disparaging the Italian Army in WWII: "That is the most racist and ignorant statement I've heard in 50 years. Saying that a whole nation consists of cowards...it's untrue and you know it. They had several Divisions in North Afrika that Rommel considered first rate. You should apologize to the world for making that statement...it's 100% wrong".
God Bless You sir for speaking out and opposing him....I did not even get into the Stalingrad battle with the idiot.
My grandfather was Lithuanian served for the German army told me all the Italians would do was eat not fight
The fact you are calling the "average" Italian serviceman basically an undedicated coward is ignorant and flat wrong. The Italian soldier of WW2 was, in fairness not as vested in the conflict as others- but they did the best they could, often very successfully- despite the poor leadership of the higher command and often substandard equipment and a industrial base that could not support total war. There were plenty of brave Italian soldiers- many paid for their bravery with their lives. Its people like you who have been repeating the same foolish tropes for 70 years that are the real problem. Not the Carcano