Jeremy McGrath on changing Supercross, where modern Dirt Bikes are lacking and more…
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- Jeremy McGrath is the King of Supercross. With 72 wins and 7 championships he stands alone as the man inside a stadium. Obviously I am a lifelong fan of MC but it wasn't until recently we got to hang out at Mammoth Motocross where I got to see the secret to all of his success. He really love riding his dirtbike.
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00:00:00 Intro
00:03:05 When Jeremy & Gypsy crossed paths
00:07:14 Racing Mammoth
00:11:17 No fairytale ending to Jeremy's career
00:15:34 Jeremy's Amateur Career
00:16:59 Admitting not being a good motocross rider
00:23:18 Being friends with your competitors
00:27:53 Did Jeremy McGrath make a lot of money??
00:31:54 Jeremy on the Deegans / Crusty Demons vs SX Riders
00:43:39 New Factory Rides
00:45:26 Ducati taking over Supercross??
00:56:13 Supercross is in a good spot!
01:01:35 Leaving Honda
01:16:07 Loosing to Ricky Carmichael
01:22:09 Being the King of Supercross
01:29:24 Jeremy's Retirement
01:35:00 Being a Kawasaki Ambassador
01:38:16 Putting Supercross on my back
01:54:37 When did Jeremy become 'SHOWTIME'
02:01:52 Supercross Personalities
02:07:21 Was SMX a Success? (TOO MUCH RACES)
02:31:08 Evolution of Supercross Tracks
02:33:54 Terrafirma (90's Moto Movies)
02:38:11 Did Jeremy feel like a ROCKSTAR in the 90's
02:46:49 Attitude throughout your career
02:49:11 Nearly had a PERFECT SEASON in Supercross
02:51:18 Rivalry with Jeff Emig
02:58:12 The Feeling of MXON
03:01:45 World Vets Prep
03:13:58 Outro
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This really was a bucket list podcast for me! Jeremy McGrath is still the absolute man! What's your favourite MC memory?
On track is probably 2000 Dallas supercross where he was clipped by Windham coming out of the first turn. I was in the stands no more than 20 feet away from where he hit dirt. Watching him in person come back from 40+ seconds down to almost a podium was insane.
Also, he started quadding the second rythym section on a 2 stroke!! He had to have been 8-10 feet higher in the air than everyone else. It doesn’t translate on tv.
Off track, his wife was battling her diagnosis and searching for donor matches. She has thankfully made a healthy recovery. He actually took the time to message me and say thank you for volunteering as a candidate. Who knows how many hundreds or thousands of people he did that for.
MC is a 100 percent class act and quality human being
Really good stuff - I was following SX in the late 90s/early 00s so it was good to hear the inside take from Jeremy. I was not such a big fan at first of MC since he seemed cocky, but this sheds some light as to his approach and why he did what he did. He seems like a good guy, even back then if you really paid attention in interviews he was likeable, but of course everyone likes to see the top dop taken down (so at the time I was pulling for RC when he come into 250s!)
Just….72 Supercross wins…🙏🤯. Just think about that for a moment. Seventy-Two👑
All done with style, grace, professionalism and a distinct lack of any malevolence. No one will ever equal what he did, I just don’t believe it’s possible.
Bro this is now my favorite MC memory great interview this was a thing of beauty like MCs riding. Great job enjoyed every minute of this interview !
We went to Atlanta sx most of the 90s. When my cousin and I were around 9 or 10 we would sneak to the front of the line for team Honda autographs.
Jeremy met my brother who had cancer in 97 at Silverdome Michigan supercross my brother was 18 yr old the king gave him his jersey off his back and signed it! MC is the Best Of All TIME! He is a legend 💪💪
That’s awesome!! 😎🙏
@@edwardstroko4665 he is a great champion the best to ever do it!
That’s awesome mate. What a Legend
@@jameszbierski391 hell yea Jeremy is the best
My brother used to put the chemo machine in a backpack tapes his catheter and IV lines with electric tape to his arms so they weren't dangling and go race Motos!💪
MC is the real GOAT of supercross. He elevated a fringe motorsport with speed, flow, rhythm, and innovation like no one else.
Oh yeah, and he could jump his bike out of the stadium, too.
@@danlowery8749 yea he could
One of the smoothest to ever get on a bike. Made it look effortless, while hauling ass!!
@@dagodigsSteel Roots!!!😎💪🇺🇸
Best interview in a while. Love McGrath’s vibe. Chill dude.
MC was my hero as I raced through the 90s... his so humble...Still 1 of if not the best champion the sport has had.
Same here! Them when I met him a few times ( during his racing days) he just as down to earth! He was amazing and acted like we had known each other for years,a great champion and human!
Same here i raced 1993 to 2003 and always looked up to him
@@user-un5my5bw4j those were the best days to be racing! I have so many memories! I wish I could ride now but at 52 I have very bad knees! I still have a 94 cr250 to put around on
Good stuff till Jase starts suggesting mixing up the indoor and outdoor seasons like it’s 1982.
Freaking terrible idea.
TERRIBLE.
The damn thing worked really well, don’t be in a hurry to muck it up.
Love hearing Jeremy's prospective on things. Just a humble and honest guy for his accomplishments
Jeremy McGrath is the King forever. Best thing to happen to dirt bikes ever. Blazing fast and so smooth. I met him at a local vet race and he took pictures and signed autographs for hours after the race. You could tell he loved the racing and the sport and the fans and just the whole scene. Great interview Jase!
MC is a badass. Even if he loses the Supercross record someday, NO one will ever ride like he did. He made it look easy and with unmatched style. He ruled the most EPIC era in motocross. And he’s genuinely just a good person, all these new riders could learn a lot from him.
It's hard to imagine someone beat him with 73... Tomac was the best for it, but it will not hapening
By the time someone gets near 72 races they won't even be racing combustion bikes,it really won't count the same I'd say.
This guy was EVERYTHING to me when I was young. He inspired my music choices, clothes and even started playing golf because I saw one photo of him playing in a magazine. Fast forward 25 - 30 years and my entire career and lifestyle is because of him. Unreal.
I know it sounds so cliche’…but this is an EPIC conversation! You have done it again Jase, brilliant!!!!! McGrath is an actual, real life super-hero. Thanks so much for flowing such a great conversation with him, the conversation we would all love to have!
MC's mind for growing his brand and the sport as a whole is just crazy!! I knew he played a major role in elevating the sport, but I didnt realize just how many things he pioneered and was the 1st to do!! All the newer guys are standing on the shoulders of RC and JS7, and they were standing on the shoulders of MC.... what a legend! Respect to the 👑
Well said
Spy?
I remember growing up thinking Jeremy was the coolest fuckimg dude on the planet. I wanted a dirtbike soo badd because of that dude. I still remember the day I got my first bike and now I've had a few dozen all because of that dude.
Meet McGrath at world vets 2022. We were parked right across from him and his people. He let us come over without hesitation signed some stuff for us spoke with us for a bit. He’s just a normal down to earth guy. Super cool dude.
Best podcast hes ever done. He seemed excited to be there and do it your way.
When I was a youth I had two posters on my wall, Michael Jordan and Jeremy McGrath. Great discussion guys!
MC probably still has a bit of influence on folks looking to buy a honda. My favorite racer too!
"I was showtime the whole time" - Jeremy McGrath.
McGrath is a true living legend. I vividly remember watching him win races at Anaheim supercross as a kid. #1 plate on the bike, fin on the helmet, he was the show. It's so cool to see him continue to be a humble guy who loves riding dirt bikes after all that. Much respect to the King.
Oh yeah. I always loved that helmet fin. Made the helmet complete.
Best line about dirt bikes! “I’m gonna ride till I can’t ride no more “ Jermey McGrath” Steel Roots!! One of the best movies on dirt bikes ever!! Hands down period end of story 💯
I am not a guy who watches podcasts but I genuinely enjoyed this one. A lot of interesting topics, no bashing, and just plain good conversation with the king
Great conversation as usual and it's always great to see and hear from Jeremy
I was too young to witness MC’s Honda days live, but McGrath is the reason I bought a Yamaha YZ80. A few years later Carmichael and Stewart inspired me to get a Kawasaki KX125.
That's cool. Now the Europeans are takin bk MX w/ KTM group of motorcycles. Triumph on the way!
Watched from beginning to end. Awesome interview. Im 35 years young, i was like 7-11 years when mcgrath was at his best. Definitely a hero of mine. Me and my pops got to sit and talk to him in the pits a couple times through the years, not another person in sight(had the special pit passes they gave out back then) cruise the pits when no one else was there. One on one talks with the legend. What an awesome person, humble, amazing rider, always took the time to say whats up to the kids and fans and always had a great attitude. You lived it right mcgrath, much respect to your parents for the way they raised you, gave us all someone good to look up to. Thanks showtime
MC's comments on moto..man that resonates. It was a harsh reality check for me too going from a smooth bmx track to 2 foot deep ruts and braking bumps.
He reminded me of a horse racer the way he gracefully galloped around the track 🔥 MC was special. He evolved the entire racing game
It’s sooo interesting hearing McGrath saying they all hung out in his era, but no one hangs out with each other in the current era. The guys in NASCAR say the exact same thing.
One of the best interviews Jace! This was awesome! Its really nice hearing MC's perspective on the events during his career. These are stuff we would never know until today!
As a 42 yr old guy MC was who I watched as a kid and dreamed of riding dirt bikes! Still a big reason today that I buy Hondas because I got In early days. I remember watching him on cable tv & he was the show. Thankful he does so much for the sport . I’m trying to get my 13 year daughter into the sport now she loves bikes and riding her old xr100 but we are doing our best to save up for a legit Dirtbike to race locally. The sport is still alive today because of what Mc done back then and still doing today ! Ty
Wait, how tf does this channel only have 26.6k subs?!?!? It should easily be 10x that just based on the guests that have been on, and 100x that number based on the quality of the interviews and how great Jase is at getting the guests to feel at ease and really open up!!! Its such an underrated podcast, hopefully more people catch on to how great it is! ✌️
Agreed, it’s one of the best podcasts on TH-cam
This is his second channel for shorts his other one is gypsy tales it has 140k
What @@dagodigs said. This is the second channel. The other channel with the black logo is older and has the good clickbait 😆
Jeremy’s thoughts about the race program are very interesting and actually make sense. I totally agree on 18 mins +1 lap. As he said, it gives the track builders more time to fix the track in between races and the race length is much better for battles.
Without a doubt my favorite episode. It’s nice to have someone with experience on the riding side give an opinion on how to make the sport better.
🙏 Please do a round 2 with MC!! This legit made my day and made the last bit of the work day fly by! Much respect and a big thanks to u both ✌️
What an awesome episode! And what a humble dude MC is. He truly did lift the sport up a few levels. From his Pro Circuit Peak days through the KTM Bud Light appearances, he was always a class act. And apparently still is. Nice job, Jase. Thank you! Dirt bikes por vida!
What a incredible interview again, genius as always. Thank you for letting MC talk like that and for that long. The King is the greatest icon in dirtbike's history. HE is the one who changed the sport for ever, made it cool and so interesting to watch even more for people who don't ride bikes at all, HE is the one most people wanted to watch, copy and support like MJ in NBA, Brady in NFL, Messi in FIFA, etc..
Exactly!!! But I feel like it’s slipping from mainstream again, only because I don’t see it on tv much anymore!! If it was on prime time tv, the ratings would go way up!!! Just my opinion!! King Jeremy!!! 😎💪🇺🇸
I cant believe how jeremy looks almost the exact same as he did in his hayday! Aged SUPER WELL!
One of the best podcasts you have done,thank you
Wow, thank you!
I love it. McGrath is even totally into talking about Your racing even though it doesn't even compare to what he has done. I don't know much about McGrath just what I have seen here and there over the years. This has really made me see what a cool and humble dude he is.
The best ever!!!! Flat out!!💪
As a 35+ rider now everytime I have a close call on my Harley I thank Gary Semics for making me become a better rider.. Everytime a car turns in front of me.. Everytime I hit some pine straw on a steep off camber.. Everytime I wheel tap an armadillo.. Thank you Gary Semics!!
35+ MX races are a thing. You should be embarrassed.
I love how MC is so comfortable in his own skin and how many time you’re like cmonnn no way bro, it’s fun to share that sentiment. Like yea it’s easy if you just win all the time.. good shit
MC IS Probably the single biggest reason my oldest son wanted to start riding and Racing at 4 yrs old.He absolutely loved watching Jeremy Mcgrath,And then once he figured out about all of videos im pretty sure he had us buy him any VHS Tapes with MC in them,and still has them today.Long Live the King.
When McGrath came out and rode gate practice at my local bmx in the early 2000s, it was a highlight of my childhood. He will definitely remember coming out to PTC BMX just outside of Atlanta. It was notorious for having the biggest jumps in the country. When I started going to nationals, it was very surprising to see how most tracks were really "weak" in comparison.
Never knew he rode ptc.. i raced myself there many times, my home track was sandy ridge
@@DSGB2199 my home track was sandy ridge! I helped start that track. Not sure when you rode, but if you remember Jonathan Jackson, 12-17x. That's me!!!
@@joeking7784 nah i was 2004 to 2009 ish. Good times, i still wanna ride and sometimes do
Has to be the most great full humblest person in the sport he was a bad dude but respected his fellow racers!!! Long live the king!!!!!
This is the episode I've been waiting for. I think most people had no idea how things were. We'd maybe get an article here or there in motocross or dirt world, but never really got the real/full story. Thank you for this.
Jeremy McGrath was my hero as a teenager with acne on face! Showtime put Supercross on the map! Best era in the sport! McGrath was special!
MC2 was my brothers and my hero growing up I just lost him unfortunately so young at the age of 30 this month and listening to MC was so healing it’s insane thanks Jeremy
Im feeling for ya and your family..
From Australia 🇦🇺
Mad props bro!! Long live your broski!!! McGrath was my brother and mine go to rider as well... What a bond between brothers...
I pump up mcgrath in outdoor series because he got his self fit an rode a dominant season...an that aint nothing...most people think he only rode supercross an they wash the fact that he won a 250 outdoor title against emig larrocco too...either way winning a outdoor title is not easy...its brutal to go the pace those guys go at..in the heat of summer time...get it...done i was starting racing in 1987...an the district in the northeast that i raced we had 30 local experts who did SX an MX RACES so i got to keep pretty good tabs on the pro races
This podcast is heaven… Jeremy is such a good talker about the sport…. but didn’t y’all have VCRs in Australia? Can’t believe you never saw him race during his reign
Never saw him in person. VCR is all we had.
Always love me some MC, whatever the numbers for kingship…..jerm’s definitely the top ambassador of the sports history
Thank you for this great interview with SHOWTIME! Jeremy McGrath and Art Eckman are my supercross childhood.
This is your best one so far GT! Jeremy is awesome! Such a cool guy!! Great interview, thanks!!
Jeremy has so much class he still doesn’t talk about the problems he had with his mechanic in the beginning at Suzuki! Decoster talks about it on his episode of the whiskey throttle show, but Jeremy still will not throw the guy under the bus!
I idolized Showtime in the 90's. Never had the tv guide so catching supercross on ESPN was hitting the lotto. I was in 8th grade 98-99. Jeremy had those pork chop side burns. 13yrs old I was shaving for those pork chops bro. I wanted them just like McGrath bro. I'd be walking home from school kids would shout from school buses passing by "Hey Elvis Presley"... Not even close kids not even close
You know you are doing good when the king stops by. Awesome show thank you.
Been waiting for this 🙏🏻😮💨🔥
"Eli Tomac is the Bruce Springsteen of SX" 😂😂😂 That is a perfect analogy..... Eli is 'Merican as apple pie!! 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
My 1997 KX125 was one of the best bikes I’ve ever had! I don’t care what anyone says 😅 the thing was sooo fast and handled excellent!
@@richardm5467 lol that’s def true. I had some pros rip my bike around the track they all said it rode great. It was decked out with a ton of Pro Circuit stuff.
Why can I only give this one thumbs up?! Awesome chat Jase, loved it. Good luck with the vet champs. I'm not there unfortunate but keep an eye out for my kiwi buddies. They're staying at MX Heaven
Best interview ever!!! Can't wait for round 2!
Yep,nice guy,in 1998 I went to Hangtown Motocross with a girl named Stacy that invited me and Jeremy won the overall and my girl really wanted Jeremy's Autograph,so we went on a mission to get it and he was really cool and treated my girl great.Pure Class!
Regarding Ducati wanting to build an MX bike I am reminded of Fiat CEO advice to Apple's CEO: 'If they have any urges to make a car, I'd advise them to lie down and wait until the feeling passes' I say this as the (ex) founder of ALTA Motors. The main reason? The total addressable market is very small and the engineering and racing investment is huge. On the other hand Ducati has breathed new life into the "win on Sunday buy on Monday" strategy.
Mid '90th was a good time at all.
Also had the Bell, Oakley, Sinisalo and Alpinestars equipment and was very satisfied with the quality. Nowadays ... it is different.
Back in 1995, Jeremy parked right next to me while at an open practice at the old Starwest track in Perris, CA. He was super cool with me and my buddies. He sat and talked with us between his practice sessions and took pics with us. He is one of the friendliest racers I have met. He gave me a few riding tips and told me that I was the biggest rider he has ever met!
It’s funny you through out that “never meet your heroes” line. I’ve met two of mine and they were both negative experiences. Well, maybe not negative just not what was expected.
Ive never had a hero but mc was my guy day 1 to now have met him ALOT over the yrs and NEVER EVER been disappointed so i guess you just need to pick the right so called hero like i did🤷♂️😅🙌
My Mount Rushmore of childhood heroes was MC, JS7, RC and Reed...... over the years I've had a chance to meet them all a few times (Reed only 1x) and not a single one was a bad or awkward experience. Ricky was a lil more serious than the others lol, but all 4 were super down to earth and cool guys, who seemed much more appreciative than annoyed by the fans. So my advice just pick a moto dude as ur hero and u prob won't be disappointed 😂, 99% of em are super chill, awesome guys
Also, I loved basketball and Michael Jordan as a kid too, but when I got to meet MJ he was a f*cking HUGE @$$HOLE!!! 🤣 Just another reason I liked the moto guys so much, they were happy to have fans and showed it
CR125 got the aluminum frame in 98!
I was surprised neither of them thought that
Met Jeremy a bunch of times. First time was at Broome Tioga National. He was on the Peak team. We were 14 and young riders he was the coolest guy and hung out with us and talked racing. He stayed late just to hang out with us. Still have his signed jersey in a shadow box on my wall. He always took the time and was never the arrogant guy, some would say.
Class act, and he changed the motocross world. He is the OG
Great guy and will always be the goat to me!! I started racing in the mid 90s and he is a huge reason why i got interested!
I say for anyone to see mgraths tight corner speed go and watch him riding supercross on that Suzuki, he was unlucky not to win the championship. No one before or since is as fast as mgrath in tight supercross corners and he made my jaw drop when he did that wheelie from a jump in steel roots, legend 👏
( ps I still have my original 2002 crf 450 and I think it’s the best bike I’ve ever ridden including up to present day bikes )
I'm SO glad someone else remembers Steel Roots and MC landing (and riding off) on a wheelie after a huge jump!! Even with all the awesome FMX stuff the guys are doing now, that stands out as one of the few moments my jaw legit dropped and I thought wtf, this dudes skill on a bike is UNREAL!! Shoutout to the 👑✌️
Lol ain't NO WAY ur claiming an 02 450 is better than modern 450s lol
@@2stroketommy465 yes, I have a 21 kxf 250 and a 2016 kxf 450 and my lap times are always quicker on the 2002 crf 450, it’s as smooth as silk, absolutely fantastic suspension better than the other two, brilliant smooth powerful engine and corners like it’s on rails.
@@InspectorButters4I still watch Steel Roots and yeah, that wheelie was badass!!!!😎💪🇺🇸
Loving the MotoGP talk! As an asphalt fan it warms the heart. ❤
MC epitomizes cool.
Thanks for this GYPSY. Got the king on too cool....
This was needed i loved it
Been on the track with you at perris30 yrs ago! Seriously coolest most down to earth dude back then AND STILL!
I started riding after going to watch him at Anaheim
…pretty unreal to grow up in Jeremy’s era
Best times of my youth growing up in Woodcrest watching and riding the tracks these guys did. Never forget that time in my life
This is the coolest interview I have ever seen. Jase is a master interviewer who obviously is a keen fan of the sport, and McGrath was incredibly forthcoming and interesting. I’ll definitely be listening to this again. Thanks for putting out such an awesome interview!!!
When meeting mcgrath as a kid was like a christian meeting jesus . Mcgrath was that important to 90s kids .
Been waiting on this for a while now!
MC throwing out some Macho Man “Ooooo yeah The cream, rises to the top, oooo yeah.”
I always thought Jeremy was a little to cocky, I was so wrong! Such a Great Person! One of my favorite videos in youtube ever! Thank You Gypsy Tales!
As an Aussie watching Jeremy on all those fox and steel roots videos as a moto fan could only be compared to watching Michael Jordan. MC was a god! Japanese probably went aluminium frames because of the massive jumps from the videos?
Ali frames are easier to make, just pour molten metal into a mould. Also the claims at the time were it saved 3 or 4 pounds in weight.
I always figured it was for cutting weight.
Fascinating to hear how much the riders hated it.
I remember his retirement speech and I think I was crying too!!! The couple times I met him and got his autograph and a pic with him was awesome!!!😎💪🇺🇸🙏
I'm watching this for the 3rd time. This is easily my favorite GTP ep. Love MC, such a down to earth guy for someone so successful.
Man I love MC. I used to watch all those videos back in the day, Steel Roots etc. I wore those tapes out. He's such a down to earth dude. Man, you gotta get him back on at some point. This was mega.
I remember waiting for the new dirtrider and dirtbike magazines to arrive the mail. Awesome stuff great pod
My childhood hero for sure
Your killing it bro. Literally Rogan of the moto sports. Could you get a old pro atv racer ? We never get any love
When MC was on prime time TV with the 1-800-Collect commercials alongside Alyssa Milano, I remember thinking SX has exploded. It is now in front of everybody to see.
Oh fuck yeah lets tap in
I raced enduros from 1998 to 2008 and looked up Gary Semics’ website back then, picking up some pointers. The biggest thing I took away was “positive inner feelings”, and I ran with it. No matter how race day looked, I charged 100% to get an edge on my competitors. Mental toughness. It served me well. 👍
Watching MC late night on channel 5 got me into moto.the true 👑
J Mac is an amazing dude. One of my favorite dudes ever!
Thank You For Letting Me See You!!
Y’all should do the 24 Hours of Glen Helen 🔥
I see the 👑 is on Gypsy Tales.....😃 INSTANT CLICK!!! Been waiting on this episode! Respect to MC for such a stellar, legendary career and for providing soo many great memories as a kid ✌️
in 2006 I met Steve lamson at Hangtown, I asked him to ride my YZ250 and tell me what he thought of suspension, while we were chatting I said was Jeremy an ass to work with at Honda, he looked me in the eyes and said Jeremy was a great teammate and all around nice guy,, This interview proves what he told me was true.
Great convo fella's! Love the talk about the older bikes and especially hearing about how he swapped forks on the Susuki at the time.
Let's gooo ! Love me some MC
So sick having the King of All time this was a great show I thank you for getting jermie on your show much respect God bless you all from the Bay area California Larry vanbrunt jr.
Another absolute banger! Stoked you’re here in the states hope to bump into you at a local track or mtb trail 🤘🏼
I got to see him race at indy twice and kenworthy's once.
MC talking about choosing the best bike over money truly says a lot about his success as well ac RC. A lot of these dudes will switch teams for a big pay raise and then struggle with the new bike in the beginning (effectively wasting a year of their career chasing settings). Or even worse, they NEVER adjust to their new machine. With MC and RC, you can say they had no choice but to leave Honda because of their internal problems, which is different of course. But I think the ultimate goal for these riders should be to find the best bike to suit their style, not how much money will their bank accounts hold. I think that’s when you’re gonna see the best out of every rider. Look at Jett for example. Dude is ridiculously comfortable on the Honda because it suits his exact riding style. But guys like sexton and kroc struggled on that bike (with some ups along the way but mostly downs). And with Kenny back on Suzuki, he surely has that old spark in him again because that bike suits his style perfectly. Tomac on yamaha, Anderson to Kawi, barcia’s move to gas gas. These dudes all stepped up their game when they got on the exact bikes that suit their styles.
End of my Ted talk. Thanks 😂
Brilliant to see the King on, so much talent. What stuck with me is seeing his section on No Fear Chapter One hitting huge dirt doubles, and sand riding at Glamis on Steel Roots.