Its a fine build, I can definitely see it struggling in longer endurance runs/higher lvl steel path stuff because your source of tanking is shield gating but no real on demand way to get that shield back (even if its companion its still tied to a cd) and focus shenanigans. If it were to critique, i would say that roar is probably not the subsume and maybe nourish would be better to address your obvious energy economy problem. Yes, everyone uses nourish. But honestly for gyre it feels like its either pillage or nourish. Reasons against roar, you're buffing things that don't necessarily need the buff while letting your energy economy/durability suffer. Yes roar buffs your ability dmg, but the key point of electricity themed frames is that its not the damage per it, its about getting as many hits as possible to stack the electric status fast. Your 4 hitting for 12k instead of 9k isn't going to be a huge flex until you're already rolling in her kit and have everything up & running (but you still have energy problems). Roar does buff weapons, but she already buffs weapons with crit so it seems like over kill while making her slower to play. And lets not knock pillage, its popular on her for a reason. It covers her survival AND it gives her a source of armor strip, which will amp her ability dmg more than roar could ever hope. But also got to remember that gyre's best way to survive is through killing & her easy access to CC. Electric proc cc is no joke and her easy access to it is right up there with limbo's ability to lock down whole sections of the map. So good on ya for keeping her 1 and subsuming 2
This. I know people like to try those "off-meta" builds to get a bit of variety going... which is fine, since, luckily, almost anything can be made to work in WF nowadays. Like this build, which is definitely a well crafted and fun alternative that's well capable of cutting through lower-tier SP content with ease. Still, either Pillage or Nourish would be objectively the better Helminth options and help alleviate some of the problems this build has in terms of energy sustain and survivability.
I’ve tried doing a long run and it was quite easy to be honest, the only thing I changed was the weapons, as long as I use vazarin against stronger units there no way to die. I get that pillage or nourish would also fit this build but since I didn’t struggle against up to lvl 1k I think it’s fine to stay that way, whenever I have time I will probably do a 9999 run with it
@@8bitmemorylane166 I just hate the sound of Nourish while being cast by a female frame, it doesn't made any sense for me. lol but I do see comfort in using Pillage on Gyre.
Been playing a lot of Gyre recently, after burning out on Kullervo a bit. I like the use of Violet Shards, haven't really gotten a chance to try them yet. It looks great so far, though honestly I've moved away from using Coil Horizon as the subsume slot. While it's not the best grouping in the game, it's a lot better for survivability since you're able to make most things unable to attack you through both Elec procs as well as a strong pull, and still allows you to use Roar/Eclipse/Armorstrip in its place. Gyre is very squishy, so I definitely like having more survivable options in my setup. Personally, my build is Armorstrip in place of Arcsphere (currently Nekros Terrify at 100% strip, will probably replace with Styanax once I finish getting a second copy of him to kill Acolytes with, he's much easier to get than Hildryn) with Brief Respite, Handspring (use Primed Sure Footed instead if you have it), Blind Rage, Augur Message, Energy Nexus, Umbral Intensify, Catalyzing Shields, Archon Stretch, Rolling Guard, Cathode Current, Molt Augmented, and whatever else you'd like for the second Arcane (currently using Molt Reconstruct for a little bit of team support when I shield gate). Shards are currently in progress, but it's 2 Amber for Casting Speed, 1 Azure and 1 Tauforged Azure for Energy right now, so I can have decent energy stores as an emergency, and can cast her 3 and 4 under fire without dying instantly. I also have both Augur mods on my pistol, so I can get the shield gating passive. Grimoire or Epitaph can usually fit those very easily. High Strength and decent Duration with Cathode Grace is a lot of energy gain, Archon Stretch and Energy Nexus (new mod that gives 3 energy/s, drops from Rogue Voidrigs in Sanctum Anatomica tilesets) more or less guarantees that you'll never run out of energy. Even better with Zenurik for a total of almost 14 energy/sec. Rolling Guard *and* shield gating is a little overkill, so probably pick one or the other, I just like having both because it makes the build safer in endurance runs of Steel Path, so long as you manage your energy. The later you go, the more likely you are to have your shields die in a single hit, so I like Shield Gating, personally. Easy to abuse. Having her normally high shields and Adaptation isn't a bad idea though for general use, makes you tankier in short content. In the fill slots for the Arcane and any mods you may want to swap out, it's definitely a good idea to do something that benefits your loadout. Arcane Acceleration is good for rifles, Arcane Tempo is the same for shotguns, and I'd also highly recommend Arcane Arachne since it buffs your ability damage too. Especially good for if you're keeping Arcspheres in the build, but less so if you're using Coil Horizon, since it does less consistent damage. I like using this build with Xoris, because it gets guaranteed Electricity procs on the heavy attack, which makes it great for both Gyre and for Melee Influence. That Arcane is genuinely busted af, I would recommend trying it out on a Xoris. Your build is very good too, might I add, just wanted to share mine and my process to maybe see if there's anything you like from it!
The Xoris works very well on this build. Dual ichor with melee influence makes it incredible too, I’ve done a 2 hours run with it and had no problem at all, as long as you have vazarin there no way you can die. I don’t think arcane Arachne works for gyre, I’ve checked the wiki
@@YoungTenn0 I haven't tested Arachne specifically cause I like where my build is at, but it should work for most ability damage, since it's a nonspecific, nonfaction damage bonus. If there's exceptions, it's pretty weird haha. I don't doubt that your version of the build can go long tho, I just like shield gating, it's fun being effectively immune to death because you cast abilities, while having infinite energy. Both can probably work, Adaptation is a great mod and Vazarin is very tanky. I just don't feel right without armorstrip these days, so Unairu or otherwise.
@@Mintybird Arcane Arachne only works on some specific abilities they are all listed in the wiki. Shield gating and armor stripping is the current “meta” but I like to try some other fun things too, I’ve thought of using epitaph and two green shards instead of those red ones but I feel like if I want to deal more damage I just use a better weapon cuz the alternox is weak af xD
Yes the Amprex does work, I didn’t try to lvl cap with this build yet but I’ll do it in the future. I did a 3 hours solo run on lua using the dual ichor and didnt struggle at all
@@zackvyle I use the grimmoire to get enough energy to cast gyres 3 and 4. But you can always use nourish instead of roar if you’re running into energy issues
I dont have everything but, I followed your build as best I could and jesus, it destroys sp enemies, just have 2 normal red archon shards and I got all the mods, is just insane, just need to not run out of enemies xD
You kinda need archon stretch on this build for that 2 energy per second and the only possible focus school here is vazarin if you use any other you will die to stronger units
@@ToaSirianit’s the same ability range bonus except it adds a energy refill for electricity which being completely honest electricity is completely useless since you could use a companion like dethcube or zeniruk or even one of the new tome mods which give a crazy amount of energy for the alternate fire Still an interesting build but not sure it will go until level cap
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Just curious, but why wouldnt you sub pillage? Great survivability with armor/shield strip
@@fuloran1 I don’t like to play casting pillage all the time, I prefer to use my guns and I use vazarin for infinity shield gating
Its a fine build, I can definitely see it struggling in longer endurance runs/higher lvl steel path stuff because your source of tanking is shield gating but no real on demand way to get that shield back (even if its companion its still tied to a cd) and focus shenanigans. If it were to critique, i would say that roar is probably not the subsume and maybe nourish would be better to address your obvious energy economy problem. Yes, everyone uses nourish. But honestly for gyre it feels like its either pillage or nourish. Reasons against roar, you're buffing things that don't necessarily need the buff while letting your energy economy/durability suffer. Yes roar buffs your ability dmg, but the key point of electricity themed frames is that its not the damage per it, its about getting as many hits as possible to stack the electric status fast. Your 4 hitting for 12k instead of 9k isn't going to be a huge flex until you're already rolling in her kit and have everything up & running (but you still have energy problems). Roar does buff weapons, but she already buffs weapons with crit so it seems like over kill while making her slower to play. And lets not knock pillage, its popular on her for a reason. It covers her survival AND it gives her a source of armor strip, which will amp her ability dmg more than roar could ever hope. But also got to remember that gyre's best way to survive is through killing & her easy access to CC. Electric proc cc is no joke and her easy access to it is right up there with limbo's ability to lock down whole sections of the map. So good on ya for keeping her 1 and subsuming 2
This. I know people like to try those "off-meta" builds to get a bit of variety going... which is fine, since, luckily, almost anything can be made to work in WF nowadays. Like this build, which is definitely a well crafted and fun alternative that's well capable of cutting through lower-tier SP content with ease. Still, either Pillage or Nourish would be objectively the better Helminth options and help alleviate some of the problems this build has in terms of energy sustain and survivability.
I’ve tried doing a long run and it was quite easy to be honest, the only thing I changed was the weapons, as long as I use vazarin against stronger units there no way to die. I get that pillage or nourish would also fit this build but since I didn’t struggle against up to lvl 1k I think it’s fine to stay that way, whenever I have time I will probably do a 9999 run with it
Whats the companion they used?
@@8bitmemorylane166 I just hate the sound of Nourish while being cast by a female frame, it doesn't made any sense for me. lol but I do see comfort in using Pillage on Gyre.
@@YoungTenn0lvl 1k is usually where the real issues with builds come to light. Did you end up doing a cap with this?
IM LOVIN THE BUILD JUST MADE IT WENT STR8 TO VOID CASS 2 HOURS THIS SHIT DOPE WORD
Been playing a lot of Gyre recently, after burning out on Kullervo a bit. I like the use of Violet Shards, haven't really gotten a chance to try them yet. It looks great so far, though honestly I've moved away from using Coil Horizon as the subsume slot. While it's not the best grouping in the game, it's a lot better for survivability since you're able to make most things unable to attack you through both Elec procs as well as a strong pull, and still allows you to use Roar/Eclipse/Armorstrip in its place. Gyre is very squishy, so I definitely like having more survivable options in my setup.
Personally, my build is Armorstrip in place of Arcsphere (currently Nekros Terrify at 100% strip, will probably replace with Styanax once I finish getting a second copy of him to kill Acolytes with, he's much easier to get than Hildryn) with Brief Respite, Handspring (use Primed Sure Footed instead if you have it), Blind Rage, Augur Message, Energy Nexus, Umbral Intensify, Catalyzing Shields, Archon Stretch, Rolling Guard, Cathode Current, Molt Augmented, and whatever else you'd like for the second Arcane (currently using Molt Reconstruct for a little bit of team support when I shield gate). Shards are currently in progress, but it's 2 Amber for Casting Speed, 1 Azure and 1 Tauforged Azure for Energy right now, so I can have decent energy stores as an emergency, and can cast her 3 and 4 under fire without dying instantly. I also have both Augur mods on my pistol, so I can get the shield gating passive. Grimoire or Epitaph can usually fit those very easily.
High Strength and decent Duration with Cathode Grace is a lot of energy gain, Archon Stretch and Energy Nexus (new mod that gives 3 energy/s, drops from Rogue Voidrigs in Sanctum Anatomica tilesets) more or less guarantees that you'll never run out of energy. Even better with Zenurik for a total of almost 14 energy/sec. Rolling Guard *and* shield gating is a little overkill, so probably pick one or the other, I just like having both because it makes the build safer in endurance runs of Steel Path, so long as you manage your energy. The later you go, the more likely you are to have your shields die in a single hit, so I like Shield Gating, personally. Easy to abuse. Having her normally high shields and Adaptation isn't a bad idea though for general use, makes you tankier in short content.
In the fill slots for the Arcane and any mods you may want to swap out, it's definitely a good idea to do something that benefits your loadout. Arcane Acceleration is good for rifles, Arcane Tempo is the same for shotguns, and I'd also highly recommend Arcane Arachne since it buffs your ability damage too. Especially good for if you're keeping Arcspheres in the build, but less so if you're using Coil Horizon, since it does less consistent damage.
I like using this build with Xoris, because it gets guaranteed Electricity procs on the heavy attack, which makes it great for both Gyre and for Melee Influence. That Arcane is genuinely busted af, I would recommend trying it out on a Xoris. Your build is very good too, might I add, just wanted to share mine and my process to maybe see if there's anything you like from it!
The Xoris works very well on this build. Dual ichor with melee influence makes it incredible too, I’ve done a 2 hours run with it and had no problem at all, as long as you have vazarin there no way you can die. I don’t think arcane Arachne works for gyre, I’ve checked the wiki
@@YoungTenn0 I haven't tested Arachne specifically cause I like where my build is at, but it should work for most ability damage, since it's a nonspecific, nonfaction damage bonus. If there's exceptions, it's pretty weird haha.
I don't doubt that your version of the build can go long tho, I just like shield gating, it's fun being effectively immune to death because you cast abilities, while having infinite energy. Both can probably work, Adaptation is a great mod and Vazarin is very tanky. I just don't feel right without armorstrip these days, so Unairu or otherwise.
@@Mintybird Arcane Arachne only works on some specific abilities they are all listed in the wiki. Shield gating and armor stripping is the current “meta” but I like to try some other fun things too, I’ve thought of using epitaph and two green shards instead of those red ones but I feel like if I want to deal more damage I just use a better weapon cuz the alternox is weak af xD
Sorry if this has been aksed before but does Amprex work well with this build?
Also can this build be used for Void Cascade near or at lvl cap?
Yes the Amprex does work, I didn’t try to lvl cap with this build yet but I’ll do it in the future. I did a 3 hours solo run on lua using the dual ichor and didnt struggle at all
@@YoungTenn0 damn, welp gotta grind for that Gyre then!
@@YoungTenn0but what's with the redirection?
@@zackvyle I use the grimmoire to get enough energy to cast gyres 3 and 4. But you can always use nourish instead of roar if you’re running into energy issues
thank you the build, will definitely try it out! :3
I dont have everything but, I followed your build as best I could and jesus, it destroys sp enemies, just have 2 normal red archon shards and I got all the mods, is just insane, just need to not run out of enemies xD
@@darklord3861Have fun with it 😁
swap archon mod with normal stretch and max everything
you can make up the difference with shards or focus school i think
You kinda need archon stretch on this build for that 2 energy per second and the only possible focus school here is vazarin if you use any other you will die to stronger units
@@YoungTenn0 would a companion with an energy mod work in this or still a no go?
@@muhammedsiddiqui7258yeah it does work, you can choose any companion for this build
why would you swap that out, the bonus is a bonus on top of normal stretch...
@@ToaSirianit’s the same ability range bonus except it adds a energy refill for electricity which being completely honest electricity is completely useless since you could use a companion like dethcube or zeniruk or even one of the new tome mods which give a crazy amount of energy for the alternate fire
Still an interesting build but not sure it will go until level cap