@@apt62 My 2020 TRD Off Road Premium is far better than this delicate 4th gen Tacoma SUV. Not only is the 5th gen 4Runner far more reliable, it is several times more durable, having proper frame mounted front bumpstops so can handle simple pot holes without blowing a mount, as these do, with the crossover/car like shock mount bumpstops. Oh lets not forget the blowing front differentials. Every issue the 4th gen Tacoma has so will this "4Runner". More power doesn't mean better. The fender flares on this thing look like the plastic used to make disposable beer cups lol
wow, exactly the same as you, my first car did not choose pearl white for various reasons, but chose black which looked good. To be exact, black can make small scratches look so clear. I may have a little OCD, so what I can't stand most is that the small pits left by stones or other things on the road in the black door are really obvious, so the cars behind are not black, black just doesn't suit me LOL
Let's get this straight. If Toyota kept the old gens forever, there would only be two people that would complain. Journalists and the California Government😂😂😂
@@minipoopuu12340 : It doesn't scratch "easier" than the rest of the glossy top coat of the vehicle; but imperfections are indeed more easily noticeable on black paint, including wax swirl marks. Still, that is not a "serious hindrance." If you'll be paranoid about your $70K 4Runner getting scratched up as if it's some limited-production exotic supercar, then perhaps you shouldn't buy one. Only buy a $70K daily driver/offroad vehicle if you can truly and comfortably afford it and wouldn't worry about dings and scratches. It's still just a 4Runner.
@@iwazaru8101Let's be real. No one wants scratches and dings on their new vehicle. It pissed me off when some asshole dinged my GR 86, I didn't even own it a month before it happened.
LUV EVERYTHING about the 6th Gen 4RnR! Thank U for showing us another great visual preview! I've owned 2nd-5th gen 4Rnr's and I'm gonna keep it going in 2025 w/the 6th Gen🔥
Honestly, seeing these 6th gen with their turbos and the expected pricing, I’m reassured with my 2024 TRD ORP purchase discounted below MSRP. Hope to keep it for 20 years or so.
I think the catch toyota's trying to deal with is would anyone that have bought the previous 4Runner (which didn't have tech and all but they would've bought to keep for long time) be the ones to upgrade to the new generation anyway? If they keep the old powertrain, those that have the previous generation would say something like it wouldn't be worth the upgrade since it's same mpg, same power etc while potential new buyers are like this thing is outdated compared to competition it's 2025 toyota wtf you doing makes some sense at least why they'd update the powertrain, exterior and all to try to get new buyers instead as previous buyers of last gen would've not upgraded anyways since...they bought the previous gen to keep for a long time like there are plenty of comments like "gah this 2025 sucks! I'm keeping my 2020, 21, 24 etc trd pro!"....like were you going to really upgrade anyways? you basically have a new vehicle lol
@@chibbyylol 100%. The crowd that insists they bought their 2 year old 5th gen because is so well sorted and reliable but then act like they would consider upgrading had 6th gen not been what it is.
@@tyronewilson7890 dealer in my area said that the delivery will most likely by by the end of february and the trailhunter will be a couple of months behind. So im guessing the trd pro will also be in the samw boat as the trailhunters
I was so excited when they announced the 6th gen but once the prices came out for the TRD PRO tacoma, the excitement wore off pretty quickly. These are most likely going to be pushing close to 70k for a 4runner. Picked up a 2024 TRD PRO 4runner in Terra in October that will hopefully last me for years to come.
I missed a Terra Pro T4R back in September by an about 15 mins. I saw it come in and thought it was already reserved, since most Toyotas are in Hawai’i. I was so bummed, but didn’t need to go into $57k of debt. I did get a 3rd Gen Tacoma TRD OR 4x4 in Jan ‘24 so that’ll last me forever.
Yes, it will last you well over 10 years (like my 5th Gen). That being said, 270 hp and 278 torque mated to a 5-spd auto is laughable in today's standards for a truck that weighs nearly 5000 lbs. The 5th Gen is already behind the times today. It is already like a flip phone in the world of iPhone 15s. Can't imagine how far behind the times it will be 5-10 years from now.
@@iwazaru8101 Ironically I wouldn't even say it's behind. Most of these turbos 4 bangers and fancy 8-speed autos in real world are not anymore efficient than the old NA V6 powertrains. The only purpose they serve is appealing to the government's emissions standards. Honestly diesels would of be better for actually efficiency improvements, but that's not happening with the regulations.
I'm loving 95% of that thing. The gloss black accents look nice but I fear they'll be scratched to hell Way too easy and that double handlebar mustache is killing me.
With you on both of those things. My fenders would definitely be scratched. I'm wondering if there will be aftermarket bumper/bullbars to replace that front look.
I love the white/piano black contrast. It looks rugged and elegant at the same time. This thing can go camping and to a gala without looking out of place.
I really like the new body style, inside and outside but not still sold on the engine. You have a new 4 banger pushing a heavy ~4800 lbs. vehicle vs. the Gen5 with a V6 pushing ~4500lbs. I'll keep my 2024 4Runner PRO for now unless they bring back the V6. Beautiful car overall.
I like it. Does the 4Runner have external bump stops like the land cruiser, or is it internal to the shock, similar to the Tacos (that seem to have issues blowing them out of the top).
Any way you can look underneath the 4runner trailhunter to see if we have a a metal cover(skip plate) anywhere else besides the front. I know the tacoma trail hunter has a lot of protection underneath this includes the transmission.
As an owner of a 2011 4 Runner sr5 4x4 with leather and a bit over 250k miles, it’s been an amazingly awesome vehicle! I’ve never really liked the current look of the newer 4 Runners so have been waiting for the next gen for quite some time. I’m disappointed in Toyota dropping the v6,but am super excited to see the extra gears in the next gen’s trans. It needed some extra gears badly, since this is my only complaint about my truck. I like the double “mustache” much more than the current look. 😊 The pricing is outrageous these days! I still have my old window sticker priced at 32k, can you believe it?! On the edge about 5 or 6th gen. What to do…
Love it but don’t like the toyo tires. Had those on my vehicle before getting Michelin . Toyo tires aren’t good tires thought it was to be released this fall now it’s winter??
Really a very nice build, and agree 100% that a sliding rear cargo deck would be a fantastic option to make load floor completely flat. The tucked in rear wiper, power rear window and other touches make this more appealing to me than the GX550 or the Land Cruiser. While everyone loves the 5th gen 4Runner, the new powertrain and other modern touches might make this vehicle a worthy successor.
Hey Jon! I had no other way of asking this, but what are your opinions on a RWD 4Runner. Me and my wife are expecting a baby in June and we’re in the market for a new car. We’re stuck on either a 4Runner or Tacoma but the market right now for 4Runners is pretty thin outside of RWD ones. Curious what your thoughts are.
Any update on WHEN we will get an overview of the drive impressions on you tube for these vehicles we have been seen prototypes and pictures only for months .
The 4 cylinder engine doesn’t scare anyone on reliability? Just curious I’m considering one of these as my next vehicle but after the tundra situations and I personally like a 6 cylinder better
Giong to be in the market for a new car in a few years, definitely getting the new 4 runner and after a few years after coming out they would fix all the issues
I don't mind the mustache. Back in the day, I was a "Hulkimaniac" so I can live with this BUT I really really don't like the gloss black accents. I LOVED the matte camo patterns from the tundras fender flares and feel like they'd hide the tiger stripes much much better than this gloss. I know it can be buffed and painted but the matte camo looks better too imo. I'd be willing to bet there will be after market replacements for these soon.
i know there are delays, but i cannot believe there haven't been any big driving events yet. not looking like a 2024 thing either...will we see these on the roads by summer of next year?
Looks great on the outside, but two things I do not like. I don't like the lack of a completely fold flat floor second row and back. And I don't like that stick shift where it is. If it was buttons on the dash or a shifter on the steering column, there would be room to design in or create something after market to make the center console area b/t the front seats into a flat work surface for a laptop, a great strength of the F150's, and with the GMC Yukons and Ford Expeditions, the way that area is designed it would be easy to make something with wood or perhaps thin urethane something you could lay across the top of the storage been and have a hinged piece to unfold to hold it level. Can't do that here with that stick shift in the way.
Loved my 2014 Tacoma TRD Sport, and I love my current 2019 TRD O/R... 🙁 Sooo disappointed Toyota went to a 4cyl in the Tacoma/4Runner, the 1GR-FE is bulletproof !
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The value of my 2024 TRD Pro just keeps going up.
LOL!!! The new one is so much better than your 2024. This is coming from the 2020 4runner owner.
@ Is it more reliable?
@@apt62Looks like a lot of plastic.
5th ftw.
@@apt62 My 2020 TRD Off Road Premium is far better than this delicate 4th gen Tacoma SUV. Not only is the 5th gen 4Runner far more reliable, it is several times more durable, having proper frame mounted front bumpstops so can handle simple pot holes without blowing a mount, as these do, with the crossover/car like shock mount bumpstops. Oh lets not forget the blowing front differentials. Every issue the 4th gen Tacoma has so will this "4Runner". More power doesn't mean better. The fender flares on this thing look like the plastic used to make disposable beer cups lol
I like pearl white but I hate gloss black, that will scratch way too essily. Nice looking overall IMO, we will see how reliability goes.
wow, exactly the same as you, my first car did not choose pearl white for various reasons, but chose black which looked good. To be exact, black can make small scratches look so clear. I may have a little OCD, so what I can't stand most is that the small pits left by stones or other things on the road in the black door are really obvious, so the cars behind are not black, black just doesn't suit me LOL
@@kaiyang7935 100% agree. I really like black on the showroom, but that's where the love ends :)
No thanks with the exterior gloss black.
I love the white 4Runner with black accents.
Let's get this straight. If Toyota kept the old gens forever, there would only be two people that would complain. Journalists and the California Government😂😂😂
lol 😂
@@TRDJon also bring back cement gray and army green
keep the old gen drivetrain, but please update the exterior and interior and tech, we're gonna be good for another 15 years
@@shawnacevedo8842 Update the drivetrain including the 5 speed, but keep the old school interior tech.
Keep it under $40k base price w/ 4.0L V6, and Toyota won't have to change anything. It'll still be the best seller for the next 20yrs.
Gloss black accents IMO are going to be a serious hindrance, especially when the car aspires to be a serious off-roader!
Exactly, looks fucking ridiculous. So stupid
How will it be a "serious hindrance?" If getting it scratched is a concern, then, gloss black or not, don't take it offroad at all.
@@iwazaru8101gloss black scratches easily over time even if it’s not taken off road matte black would’ve been a better choice
@@minipoopuu12340 : It doesn't scratch "easier" than the rest of the glossy top coat of the vehicle; but imperfections are indeed more easily noticeable on black paint, including wax swirl marks. Still, that is not a "serious hindrance." If you'll be paranoid about your $70K 4Runner getting scratched up as if it's some limited-production exotic supercar, then perhaps you shouldn't buy one. Only buy a $70K daily driver/offroad vehicle if you can truly and comfortably afford it and wouldn't worry about dings and scratches. It's still just a 4Runner.
@@iwazaru8101Let's be real. No one wants scratches and dings on their new vehicle. It pissed me off when some asshole dinged my GR 86, I didn't even own it a month before it happened.
LUV EVERYTHING about the 6th Gen 4RnR! Thank U for showing us another great visual preview! I've owned 2nd-5th gen 4Rnr's and I'm gonna keep it going in 2025 w/the 6th Gen🔥
Honestly, seeing these 6th gen with their turbos and the expected pricing, I’m reassured with my 2024 TRD ORP purchase discounted below MSRP. Hope to keep it for 20 years or so.
Even my LX570 feel like a great deal 🤣
Selling my 2022 T4R TRD OR-P after 2 months & 900 miles in 2021 was so far the biggest regret I have
@@J.Young808 Oh man…that’s gonna be the one that got away for sure.
I think the catch toyota's trying to deal with is would anyone that have bought the previous 4Runner (which didn't have tech and all but they would've bought to keep for long time) be the ones to upgrade to the new generation anyway?
If they keep the old powertrain, those that have the previous generation would say something like it wouldn't be worth the upgrade since it's same mpg, same power etc while potential new buyers are like this thing is outdated compared to competition it's 2025 toyota wtf you doing
makes some sense at least why they'd update the powertrain, exterior and all to try to get new buyers instead as previous buyers of last gen would've not upgraded anyways since...they bought the previous gen to keep for a long time
like there are plenty of comments like "gah this 2025 sucks! I'm keeping my 2020, 21, 24 etc trd pro!"....like were you going to really upgrade anyways? you basically have a new vehicle lol
@@chibbyylol 100%. The crowd that insists they bought their 2 year old 5th gen because is so well sorted and reliable but then act like they would consider upgrading had 6th gen not been what it is.
Can they just show us the gahd damn SR5 already
Hahahaha I know!!!
Right????
I imagine it’d look like the grey one in the background
They keep pushing the high end models that aren’t going to sell the most and won’t be available until 6 months after the initial release
@@tyronewilson7890 dealer in my area said that the delivery will most likely by by the end of february and the trailhunter will be a couple of months behind. So im guessing the trd pro will also be in the samw boat as the trailhunters
I was so excited when they announced the 6th gen but once the prices came out for the TRD PRO tacoma, the excitement wore off pretty quickly. These are most likely going to be pushing close to 70k for a 4runner. Picked up a 2024 TRD PRO 4runner in Terra in October that will hopefully last me for years to come.
I missed a Terra Pro T4R back in September by an about 15 mins. I saw it come in and thought it was already reserved, since most Toyotas are in Hawai’i. I was so bummed, but didn’t need to go into $57k of debt. I did get a 3rd Gen Tacoma TRD OR 4x4 in Jan ‘24 so that’ll last me forever.
It will last you 10 + years, I had a 2012 Trail Edition with 10 trouble free years.
Yes, it will last you well over 10 years (like my 5th Gen). That being said, 270 hp and 278 torque mated to a 5-spd auto is laughable in today's standards for a truck that weighs nearly 5000 lbs. The 5th Gen is already behind the times today. It is already like a flip phone in the world of iPhone 15s. Can't imagine how far behind the times it will be 5-10 years from now.
@@iwazaru8101 Ironically I wouldn't even say it's behind. Most of these turbos 4 bangers and fancy 8-speed autos in real world are not anymore efficient than the old NA V6 powertrains. The only purpose they serve is appealing to the government's emissions standards.
Honestly diesels would of be better for actually efficiency improvements, but that's not happening with the regulations.
I'm loving 95% of that thing. The gloss black accents look nice but I fear they'll be scratched to hell Way too easy and that double handlebar mustache is killing me.
With you on both of those things. My fenders would definitely be scratched. I'm wondering if there will be aftermarket bumper/bullbars to replace that front look.
That is awesome. Cockpit red interior. Perfect.
An underground 4Runner TRD Pro with red 🤤🤤
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Yes Please.
They need to release the build and price tool and pricing on the website
It looks good, but I could do without the excessive gloss black.
I can see that. Thanks for watching!
Time to call your local wrapper!!
That surf version in the blue with those wheels is awesome looking!
I love the white/piano black contrast. It looks rugged and elegant at the same time. This thing can go camping and to a gala without looking out of place.
I have been saying this, but people act like they go camping 24/7😂
Looks gay actually.
I really like the new body style, inside and outside but not still sold on the engine. You have a new 4 banger pushing a heavy ~4800 lbs. vehicle vs. the Gen5 with a V6 pushing ~4500lbs. I'll keep my 2024 4Runner PRO for now unless they bring back the V6. Beautiful car overall.
Looks nice. Doesn't look like alot of storage in back with that high floor.
@Jon this or the Land Cruiser?
People might not like the engine, but I think the looks are great
I’d do the gray one vecause it hides some of the black that’s everywhere on the exterior
Thank you Jon for covering SEMA! Looks great - however, I like my 2024 TRD Pro Tacoma better! 😊
I like it. Does the 4Runner have external bump stops like the land cruiser, or is it internal to the shock, similar to the Tacos (that seem to have issues blowing them out of the top).
No it’s all internal.
Any way you can look underneath the 4runner trailhunter to see if we have a a metal cover(skip plate) anywhere else besides the front. I know the tacoma trail hunter has a lot of protection underneath this includes the transmission.
I have in a previous video. It does back a good ways.
As an owner of a 2011 4 Runner sr5 4x4 with leather and a bit over 250k miles, it’s been an amazingly awesome vehicle! I’ve never really liked the current look of the newer 4 Runners so have been waiting for the next gen for quite some time. I’m disappointed in Toyota dropping the v6,but am super excited to see the extra gears in the next gen’s trans. It needed some extra gears badly, since this is my only complaint about my truck. I like the double “mustache” much more than the current look. 😊 The pricing is outrageous these days! I still have my old window sticker priced at 32k, can you believe it?! On the edge about 5 or 6th gen. What to do…
Love it but don’t like the toyo tires. Had those on my vehicle before getting Michelin . Toyo tires aren’t good tires thought it was to be released this fall now it’s winter??
I like this, it would match my Tacoma. Might go Sequoia or gx550 to get more room though
Really a very nice build, and agree 100% that a sliding rear cargo deck would be a fantastic option to make load floor completely flat. The tucked in rear wiper, power rear window and other touches make this more appealing to me than the GX550 or the Land Cruiser. While everyone loves the 5th gen 4Runner, the new powertrain and other modern touches might make this vehicle a worthy successor.
Super clean!
Heck ya!
Thanks for uploading the video, I'm a new subscriber now.
Thanks! I appreciate it!
Hey Jon! I had no other way of asking this, but what are your opinions on a RWD 4Runner. Me and my wife are expecting a baby in June and we’re in the market for a new car. We’re stuck on either a 4Runner or Tacoma but the market right now for 4Runners is pretty thin outside of RWD ones. Curious what your thoughts are.
Any actual sighting of a regular sr5??
why does the back seat flip forward like that? for more room?
There is a third row option for them
@@TRDJonI have a 3rd row in my SR5 that I would love to swap into my Pro.
Is it possible?
Both 2022s
The TRD Pro looks very good overall. Nice trim and finishes.
Wish the Sequoia TRD Pro looked as good.
i usually don't care for white paint but this looks really good. hope these units start rolling on to lots sometime soon
Any update on WHEN we will get an overview of the drive impressions on you tube for these vehicles we have been seen prototypes and pictures only for months .
The 4 cylinder engine doesn’t scare anyone on reliability? Just curious I’m considering one of these as my next vehicle but after the tundra situations and I personally like a 6 cylinder better
You can just wait til this engine platform/gen has time to mature…
@ very true I’m not in need of a vehicle. Thank you for your response
No yellow/orange stitching ?
And when do you think they’re going to roll out.
Jon, does 4Runner has the truck-feel when you sit in it?
Do you think the 4Runner will be at auto shows in January?
So is Ice Cap a pearl white, or a solid white? Hard to tell from the video.
I wonder if it will collect dust on the dealer lots like the Tocoma? Looks nice though
Nice looking 4runner but I'll keep my 2020 4runner SR5 4WD. Thanks for the video John.
Can't wait to see one on the road
Hey. I know this is about the 4 Runner but, what is the Suprabird. Saw a picture with limited content.
Giong to be in the market for a new car in a few years, definitely getting the new 4 runner and after a few years after coming out they would fix all the issues
We can hope
Wonderful!
I don't mind the mustache. Back in the day, I was a "Hulkimaniac" so I can live with this BUT I really really don't like the gloss black accents. I LOVED the matte camo patterns from the tundras fender flares and feel like they'd hide the tiger stripes much much better than this gloss. I know it can be buffed and painted but the matte camo looks better too imo. I'd be willing to bet there will be after market replacements for these soon.
The seats have been notoriously uncomfortable. Any improvements there? Do they track on the road better? Any real improvements besides the radio?
Yes all of that has been improved if it’s anything like the new Tacoma.
Would love to compare the TrdPro to the Sport and Off-road when it comes to the interior differences and trunk space without the hybrid
Do we know if these are getting the red interior options??
Yes
Any updates to when we’ll see lower trims?
The glass black is terrible
It looks nice imo
@ agreed
I just don’t think it’s ideal for a truck ?
Yea loose the gloss bro
i know there are delays, but i cannot believe there haven't been any big driving events yet. not looking like a 2024 thing either...will we see these on the roads by summer of next year?
As other new cars it has some positive and negative things, but if you have a TRD Pro 5th gen, never trade with other SUV
This is listed as a 2025 model. We are in November, they haven’t even released the price.
This has been a weird roll out.
The vehicle is supposed to be available this month but doesn’t seem like it’s going to be the way their moving slow with everything
With Tacoma trd pro being 65 plus, don’t be surprised if this is 75 plus
When start sales ?
Can’t wait! I debated a 24 Tacoma or 25 forerunner, holding out for forerunner! They need to hurry up already 😂
any ideas on the possible release date so dealership arrival or allocation?
I’d say February
@TRDJon Thank you love
Great video. Thx
Glad you liked it!
Beautiful looking rig but the motor is to small and the price is to high
somehow looks even better than the tacoma!
Same bump stop as new tacoma ?
Thrilled to have snagged one of the last pros in Colorado at MSRP.
Nice dude!
When can we order one of these it’s taking forever!
I’d say now to get with your dealer but they won’t have any really allocated till next year
Love it!
Love it 💯
Will I be able to even able to afford it, if a big ass tariff gets put on it?
Glad no Iso seats. But, I think not having the black roof like the Tacoma was a miss.
Yea I agree it’s nice to not have them for this vehicle.
I dig it! Looks so good when it’s clean. Would love have loved to be there Jon enjoy it for us
For sure!!
I’m definitely getting one in black
Nah
Not a fan, miss my 5th gen TRD ORP I had
But I’m picking up my new GX550 Overtrail+ this Saturday and can not wait
You’ll love it. Enjoy!
Has toyota announced when these will be made available?
No they haven’t.
TRD Jon: “How do ya’ll like that double Hogan mustache?”
Me: Get a load of all this brotherrr BROTHERRR
They have to delay the 6th gen, run out and get the last 5th gen.
When the hell will they be on the lots? Been waiting and so far nothing.🤷🏻♀️
That cargo area with the battery raised up looks terrible. I still need to see it in person the ice cap looks great though
Is the back seat as bad as the Tacoma ?
This or the new LC?
Man that’s gonna be hard
I wonder if the paint will flake off like it does with the new Tacomas.
So we still don’t know anything about pricing or release date?
Not yet no.
I may do an SR5 or TRD OR and put those wheels and tires.
Word is, these powertrains are already having issues. If you have a 2024 4Runner, keep it forever!
So Ice Cap is ur typical white 4runner? We've seen white Runners before lol
Looks great on the outside, but two things I do not like. I don't like the lack of a completely fold flat floor second row and back. And I don't like that stick shift where it is. If it was buttons on the dash or a shifter on the steering column, there would be room to design in or create something after market to make the center console area b/t the front seats into a flat work surface for a laptop, a great strength of the F150's, and with the GMC Yukons and Ford Expeditions, the way that area is designed it would be easy to make something with wood or perhaps thin urethane something you could lay across the top of the storage been and have a hinged piece to unfold to hold it level. Can't do that here with that stick shift in the way.
Why aren't they showing the TRD Off Road yet???
TRD PRO looks awesome in Mudbath color, I think the strongest design is PRO
double stache is sick
Would have loved to go see this in person
It’s here at SEMA! Hope you can make it.
Absolutely perfect.
Show us the GR86 rally car
Can I please get some 4Runner with my fender flares? Those things are huge!
All that new 2025 stuff and STILL no driver side A pillar grab handle. Come on Toyota.
Looking forward to what this exact truck goes for once they hit the lots. Under 60 will be a buy for me. But, I’m not holding my breath lol
It definitely won’t be man.
"I'm Luke Skywalker, I'm here to rescue you... :) ".. If you carry a green lightsaber, THIS is your new ride.
I like the color scheme. Now I know what I should blackout on my 24 Ice Cap. Then I can be a 6th Gen TRD Faux! 😂😂
👇Toyota drop the ball button
👇🏼 You don’t have to buy it button
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Impatiently waiting for dealership arrival this fall.
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
For $1,000,000 that beautiful 4 cylinder truck can be mine!
When I pick up mine, that front bumper and those terrible fenders are the first to go.
6spd auto? I thought it was the 8spd
I put 8 speed on the screen. I messed up.
Loved my 2014 Tacoma TRD Sport, and I love my current 2019 TRD O/R... 🙁 Sooo disappointed Toyota went to a 4cyl in the Tacoma/4Runner, the 1GR-FE is bulletproof !