Pre-Launch Quick Tip #3 : Best Buffing Compound For Your Boats Gelcoat!
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- As far as Spring prep goes, this is the hidden gem for making your gelcoat shine ;-) I don't get impressed very often, but this compound actually did it (well 3 year ago it did, now I just expect perfection everytime I use it lol)!
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I really like how you show products when you find something that works. Good stuff as usual. Thanks.
Thanks for this, Andy - I'm always impressed how much time and effort you put into your demos.
You know I don’t think people would think you were trying to pull a fast one we watch because we want to learn And you are a very good teacher you explain everything I have learned so much watching your videos just want to say thank you
One of the few guys who knows how to correctly fold sandpaper! 👍🏻
I just have to say - I have gotten a lot of amazing information from this channel that is helping with my boat restoration. Due to the information shared and the way it is easily presented - I have confidently replace the rotten transom, and working or getting it all back together in the coming weeks. It was a daunting task to take on - and I was not confident in my knowledge base until I found this channel. Props to you sir for your hard work and ability to share knowledge in an easy to understand manner.
I always learn/am reminded of better practices in boat care by watching your videos! It must give a great sense of satisfaction knowing how many boats are going to look that much better because of advice you've shared.
And I'm impressed by the fact you're not afraid to share your own learning experiences. Instead of allowing pride to dig your heels in on old ways, you're always experimenting to get the best results. You're quickly becoming the "Project Farm - Marine Edition"... and THAT'S a compliment! :D
I have tried lots of compound over the years and I have never found anything that works as well as total buff. It is phenomenal 😍
I am an Auto Tech Teacher in PA and I love your videos!! I have been using total boat products and watching your videos to keep my boat on the water. Keep up the AWESOME WORK!!!!!!!
Andy, I love the quick tip videos. Thanks for keeping us going
I've been restoring a heavily oxidized jet boat and saw this video on the Totalboat product. I bought some. The process I found to work took 5 steps. 1. I washed the boat with diluted hydrochloric acid (toliet bowl cleaner), rinsed and dried the boat with a microfiber towel. 2. I used a spray bottle with water and a green Scotchbrite pad to wet sand the boat, dried off with paper towels. 3. I used 3M heavy duty rubbing compound with a 6 inch foam pad buffer, sprayed and dried with paper towels. 4. I used the 6 inch foam buffer with the Totalboat rubbing compund, dried with a microfiber towel....great shine! 5. I applied Marine 31 wax with a 2 inch low speed buffer and foam pad then wiped with a microfiber towel...the boat looks almost new!
The fiberglass is shiny including the metalflake sections. It's a dramatic change. Thanks for your testing as the Totalboat compound does a wonderful job to bring out the shine.
Quarantine with @Boatworkstoday is that much better. Maybe I'll binge watch the old videos
you are simply the best , thanks for your time and effort you put into your vids
Thanks Andy I learned a lot from this episode. Hope you had a great Easter 👍👍
I tried the maguairs on my old light yellow, oxidized gel coat. It came in 3 parts/stages. I buffed and buffed and buffed. It had very very minimal effect. I wasnt even close to satisfied. I'm going to buy some of this total boat product. That was an impressive result. Thanks for sharing your expertise Andy.
Happy Easter! Haven’t tried the Total buff yet but will. I’ve used 3m high gloss gelcoat compound for over 20yrs with great results! Have stopped at 600 a few times and still polished right out! Thanks for sharing great tips and products!
I just came across your channel and love it. Thank you so much, for the very practical and informative how to videos.
Outstanding video tutorial! I am really surprised and impressed with that polishing job! THANK YOU and BELATED HAPPY EASTER!
Very enticing results.
Thanks for sharing that information..I use a wide variety of marine compounds while trying to figure out which works best. I did not know about that product until today. Stay healthy!
I've gone through the same thing. Thank you, I'm going to order some TBP for my next job.
Happy Easter to everyone....and stay safe
Happy Easter to you and your family, Mr Andy.
Thank-you for sharing your research ! I have yet to attempt a buff but your video and product testing has me thinking I can finally do this and be happy fpr my efforts using this product you have recommended thx ;).
Happy Easter! I love Festools you keep confirming that.
Total buff is the bomb! This has been out of stock for a while, but just received a shipment from Jamestown Distributors today. Absolutely phenomenal product. This stuff almost is like a liquid more than a paste. It doesn't seem to build up and glaze on pads, so you could go much longer between cleanings. Compared to other compounds it leaves little to no residue behind, just a mirror finish, free of scratches of course!
I went over a large cargo van (fiberglass shell) with 1000 grit wet sand, and absolutely no traces of scratches when followed with Total Buff. It had over 16 years worth of oxidation. Truly a revolutionary product! I have no idea how they do it, but I can't thank Andy enough for sharing. I'm sold on Total Buff. It's works extremely well with a DA polisher. I use the Makita dual action with orange, heavy cut pad, and made 4 passes in a crisscross pattern. 2x2 area works well in high 70 temps. Again, so grateful to Andy for all the info he shares. Andy you are one of a kind Sir! All the best!
Thnx for this vid Andy! I;m in the process of "buffing out" my boat I got from my dad after rebuilding a LOT of it. It's a heavily oxidated painted aluminum hull and I've been toying with how to go about removing this oxidation...I'll give your methods here a try! Happy Easter and stay safe!!!
Happy Easter Andy!! I hope things are going well for you and your family.
Hi. I like how you do vids. I like your approachable attitude and delivery.
I want to say, you have been the ONLY person to make me consider a new compound. I haven't as of yet but the 1st one I try before Level R is Total Boat.
I'm a 3M guy (for over a decade)
Thanks for this. I hope I can work it into my technique and get the results that I want.
Thanks again man. I've passed this info along to everyone I get a chance to talk with about gelcoat.
Want to do a video on gelcoat pores??? Drake's detailing and I are at odds. He thinks you can "close the pores" I think pores run deep and getting them to shine is all that's needed because there's just more pores below the surface so no matter how aggressive you get, you deal with the pores in the gelcoat and make them smooth with a "wax" to fill and seal them (for a while)
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Happy Easter to you and family.
Great videos as always!
It might be the kind of compound that breaks down to smaller particles as it's worked. So it goes from coarse to fine as you use it.
Great video and comparison and yes, new gelcoat is not as hard so polishes out easier and quicker. However, in my experience this year, I have spent over 60 hours polishing my 28 year old gelcoat and tried many different brands and types of polishes/compounds.
I did like the Total Boat Rubbing compound, but it does not clean out of the pad as well as one other that is more aggressive and brings up a shine faster which is Majestic Solutions Vibracut 1000. It seems to cut fast and bring out the shine quickly and then flings off the pad and keeps it from building up so quickly. Then I use a pad spur to clean periodically to keep going.
If ever interested, and working on aged gelcoat, you might want to give this stuff a try.
I do followup afterwards with the Total Boat Totalshine Finishing compound to remove the fine swirl marks and man, what a shine and finish!
Happy Easter to you
I'm a believer in the total boat line, thank you for your opinion
just wow! Andy
Wow...I was like "Mads, what are you doing on Andy's Channel"...Sanding, Glorious Sanding! LOL. Happy Easter Andy. Stay safe....
I think Mads used the 3M product, but wasn't gelcoat.
I'm always lurking in the background ;)
I'm going to get some and try it on 2005 Key West. The top caps around the boat are duller than the hull, I guess sun damage from previous owner.
Great information thank you very much and Happy Easter
My god man I wish I had found your channel sooner! I have sent hundreds of dollars on compounds and sandpaper trying to polish epoxy after sanding out dust nibs and small imperfections. Every auto body pro most epoxy guys kept saying 3M perfect it and a DA polisher would do it. I finally figured out I needed something more. I got an orbital polisher and a more aggressive compound made for gel coats. You would have saved me so much anguish, time and cash.
Just watched the first video… I understand why you have 170,000 subscribers… And that’s unheard of considering the audience isn’t everybody! Love this video and plan to use it. Subscribed!
I'm polishing out an old faded out boat with this, and they do have the finishing compound they sell called Total shine. It's an amazing product for sure. A little pricey for the amount, but well worth it.
Happy Easter 🐣🐰🐇 day
I used the same deerfos wet and dry disks. 1000 12 15 2000 25000 and then finish with a 3000. Then lambswool buff with faracela G3 and meguirs fine. As the hull was out in the weather for 12+ years and a third brush painted soo thick. After a wax with mirror glaze it looks brand new, it had never been on water Ever. Great video, thanks. Stay safe and well
Buffers belly from 15 minutes into the video. Thanks for the videos. Stay safe and stay well.
Yup lol :-)!!
Wow, super stuff. I went directly from your video to the Totalboat store via you link, and wouldn't ya know it.....no stock
Fresh gelcoat...very soft. I bet the clean wool pad would nearly do it.
Transom. I wanna see that transom get whats coming to it. 😜. Nah, you do great Andy. Keep up the videos. But really. That transom is calling
Agreed!
Thanks for another great video, Andy. Have you ever tried troweling on gelcoat, like you do the gelcoat fairing compound, to avoid a lot of the brush marks?
Any Heavy cut or Extra cut compound will work just fine ... been working on boat in annapolis md for 20 years and this was the first thing I learned to buff any gelcoat.. would never used a one step wax to buff out any gel coat repairs ...
They also have a finnishing compound called Total shine.
Have been using the other compounds you showed and haven’t been totally happy. If I can get the Total Boat products in Canada, I’ll try it, for sure. Looks amazing. Thanks and have a Happy Easter.
I agree they need to ship to us up here in Canada the products look amazing
Amazon carries some of their products
@@jeffthomson1777 try
Jamestown Distributors, they have this product. Totalboat website is sold out. I hope this helps.
Yup, that would sure be nice. I've tried eveything Carquest and Canadian Tire have to offer and have never had a result like that! Ever.
I like it
Good stuff
Andy, can you comment on how a compound that appears to have very aggressive cutting ability could result in low spots if you are doing gel coat chip repair? Say you fair the repair out on a hull side with 600, and then polish out with this compound, will there be a “low” spot in the general area you were polishing?
Hello nice video! Have you ever cut a hull to add a window above the water line? For instance to add a window to a cabin. Thanks!
Great video's Andy. I'm not much of a boat repair guy but learning a lot from you but get confused with all the different types of materials of what to use and where. Do you by chance hold any classes? I have many questions.
Thanks for the video. Is there some type coating which will protect the gelcoat for years?
Hi Andy, first of all thank You for sharing with us your precious experience! silly question ... Does the total buff works for regular paint as well?
Thanks for your very informative video, I have a 90 model cobalt with moderate oxidation, would you recommend this product for a general buffing over the McGuire 3 step boat restoration process? Thanks
Happy Easter! Wonder where Buff Magic falls in your experience.
i'll be willing to bet that the compound contain pumice as the "grit"
Pumice is very porous, and start out "coarse" and grinds itself down to a finer grit. Thus you can pretty much buff anything with it.
Long time ago i worked at a company where we had such a compound - we could also finish sanding at about 500 grit, and buff to an insane gloss with the compound.
You may try Optimum no rinse in your wet sand bucket with a grit guard. Keeps solids down. From automotive industry.
IMHO, the wool pad helps a lot the compound. You should try with a light foam pad to be sure what the compound is capable of.
I hate Maguire's because it's full of oily fillers that mask the defects much than correct them.
TotalBuff has a new customer!... #WowThatWasImpressive
What do you think the best preserving wax is for gelcoat? Something with really good UV protection
I use mirka's new 45 compound and it works amazing
I have seen the results from "Polarshine" and it is impressive but ridiculously expensive. However, a little goes a long way. The 3M rubbing and polishing compounds are a waste of money, btw.
Of course it is out of stock anywhere!
what about the bertram transom? connot wait for your approach. Happy easter to your family.
The best cutters come from a brand called G3 farecla come in cutting compound abrasive 1 2 and 3 and swell remover 2 & Wax UV rated and a few more
These are the ones that I have used for over 10 years polishing fibreglass moulds for preparation and lot of boat repairs
Over the years I have refined my technique and on numerous times I have just used the cutter number 1 abrasive any it's usually pretty well done most of these repairs I done on high-end boats like bayliners and malibu's to name a few
So I'm not sure if you can get this product in America, you can get it on eBay
Hi there, came across this and amazing. Does the age of gel coat make a difference in the way it removes the oxidation. I am sold
I use tru grit works good
Hey Andy thanks for the video!But one question I did not hear you say the products full name! Is it Total boats Total shine finishing compound?And also stay safe and happy easter to you and the fam:)
Great video, I have learned a lot from all of your videos. Thank you for posting.
I bought a 20 year old Starcraft. The Gelcoat is a bit yellowed, but there is old oxidation on the bottom which I am going to apply a new coat to due to some chips and digs, 20 year old boat right. What grit sand paper would you recommend starting off with to try and brighten up the rest of the finish?
Try hitting it with on and off. Careful as it’s acidic, but does an amazing job of removing stains
Totalboat has a finishing compound also
The cabinets in my sailboat are preformed and are full of stress cracks and breakdown stress points. Can you suggest what to use to resurface them. My boat is a 1985 CnC 24’. Enjoy watching the things you do on your show.
Just a note..Meguiars M49 Oxidation Remover is the least aggressive compound they make. M67 One Step is a little more aggressive ( 2000) and M91 Power Cut is the most aggressive (1000-1200)
Andy try white diamond buffing compound worked great on my stratos pro 201..but mine had bad oxidation
With this lockdown Spring is extended... Happy polishing!
Also, in this video what was the first thing you used when you applied the paste to the board.?
Question for you: I’m tackling a 1989 Bayliner 3270 that I’ve purchased. Can I use a random orbital sander to sand the boat? Just a run of the mill corded Milwaukee version…
Would a 3” wide waterline stripe be two big an area to roll and tip with gellcoat?
3M makes several grades of compound specifically for Gelcoat, that stuff is for paint.
Do you have US supplier for 2" wet sand hook & loop disks?
I just bought a RIKON 31-200 sander/polisher and I love that robust one hander.
Hey bud what’s the best way to wet sand and buff in crease’s or crevices? Got a pretty sharp crevice, maybe 110° or so and the buffing pad doesn’t seem to make it to the bottom of that.
Hi dear Andi, thank you so much for all your great videos. I have a question regarding the totalboat products, I live in Austria, where can I bay them products? Thank you, Akram from habibi-boat
what do you put on after the total buff ?
Hey men can you make a video showing step by step how to mix gel coat for spry gun apply sanding and buffing but step by step because everyone jump steps and are really confusing
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That’s great Andy. Jamestown Distributers is literally in my backyard. I need to remove some ghosting from old name decals (same name, new decals, different design). Would this be a good product to use for that?
I have two bottles on the way and hope you get an answer… Because that’s what I’m using it for!
Just a thought on wet paper.
In another channel a quite experienced automotive painter stated the paper should soak for 20 minutes before sanding.
What is your take on that?
Would you use this instead of the aquabuff 1000 or use the total buff after the aqua 1000?
Not a lot of use outside the USA but thanks for the video anyway.
Is this compound a DAT polish (Diminishing Abrasive Technology)? BTW 3M does sell compound specifically for gelcoat. I just started to remove the oxidation from my newly purchased 1996 Trojan with the 3M™ Perfect-It™ Gelcoat Heavy Cutting Compound and it worked great.
Great video but how we can buy it is not in your amazon account?
thanks
So, what does TotalBoat Total Shine do? Is it useful given how well TotalBuff works?
Your work is awesome as always and that compound is ok but Most Definitely not the best in my professional opinion
Try Festool MPA6000 - it's a gamechanger.
called total boat and they are claiming supply chain issues and don't know when they will get this back in stock. I've tried meguires heavy oxidation remover and not impressed. Do you know where I can get some to finish my flats boat project? Do you have an alternative product? Thanks for all your help and love your videos...so helpful. Keep it up!
Is the result the same on old gelcoat? New soft gelcoat is a bit more forgiving..
I had a very poorly taken care of boat from the previous owner. I used prest ultra cutting compound and collonite and i was done. Looked like new.
I use the same products on my boat's 40 year-old gel coat.
I’m curious how this stuff would work on paint. 🤔 I’m redoing a boat and I plan to use paint below the waterline and gel coat for the top. I’d like one product for both of such a thing exists.
Is a lamb's wool pad recommended for application, or will foam pads work as well. Also, is there a recommended speed for oscillation?
Foam works as well. Just less cutting power.
Oscilating and buffing? Heck no. Not on gelcoats