My grandparents had a table with a drop leaf, and when that folded up the joint was also almost invisible. Much easier to engage than sliding section. That was made in the 'old days' by a craftsman with a lifetime of handmade furniture experience.
Omg if I had to screw the extensions and then store them somewhere when removed, it would drive me nuts. We’ve an old school one and it’s gorgeous. Fold out or away, has edging, no mechanisms to see here. And besides, when you have that many guests, nobody is worried about the table, of you have good company. 😂
@@obscure.reference yeah exactly. it’s not that screwing in the bolts is particularly difficult, it’s that you’d have to do it every time you put the extension on which is just needlessly tedious to do often.
Nice innovation there, I like the thought you put into this. It kinda reminds me of the way I tend to over engineer simple stuff, not because it's necessary, but because it's fun to see how it works out.
I have a a Biedermeier dining table that only has wooden shafts to insert into the table frame when extending. They can hide under the table top itself when not in use. That table top is perfectly flush and never has any gaps, while not using screws. I can draw it exactly as it is, I also have pictures. It is fucking magnificent. It’s also a couple hundred years old this year, not sure on the exact date, it’s from somewhere between 1821 and 1828.
I love blacktail studios' work, and think it's gorgeous. It does however contrast the mastery that some old woodworkers had to implement the solutions they did
In fairness it’s built for his house, not for market, so doing it that way is probably better for him. That and it looks like the screw tightening is only so the table extensions don’t bend downwards
We have a really old dining room table with extensions. The whole length of the table doubles with them in, and the way to extend is by pulling at it, cus the extensions sit right under the tabletop, one at each side, split in the middle of the table. When they're pulled out, the table is fairly sturdy (it's old, so...) And when you push them back in, they sit flush with the tabletop and the total thickness is maybe 1 inch. It's made from pretty heavy wood which is why it's so sturdy.
Hey Cam, thank you so much for your videos! You’ve been such a huge inspiration for me to get into woodworking and I look forward to each of your posts. I was just wondering if you have different preferred finishes for different types of projects. Ex. Rubio monocoat for this type of table or shellac for another type of table…
I love your tables. They're all gorgeous. I'm sure you already know you could have just used a cam lock with thumb handle to tighten that joint and no need for a tool when installing the extension. I apologize if I am being rude. I don't want to second guess a master table guy such as yourself. Good building keep making masterpieces.
Did you have to use that thicker extrusion for the weight of the extensions or can you also just use the thinner stuff? Maybe use a stud with a knob instead of screwed as well?
Looks amazing and yeah gotta find a place to store it but how many people every tried to pull those tables apart after several years or being the small table there’s just no working then mofos after a couple years
How would Blacktail studio tackle this project? My mother-in-law wants a butterfly leaf table with drop leaves on it as well. The problem is that having both a butterfly leaf and drop leaves makes an issue of a very weak frame unless the top is floating because you have to cut the apron. Ideas?
I think the idea was decent, something I would have done. That being said, I generally work on the principal of work with what I have, how cheap can i do it. For your quality of work, I don't think your solution matches your woodwork quality. Since it's your personal furniture, I think it's fine. But challenge yourself next time. I appreciate your videos and jealous of your skill.
Clearly efficiency was not a factor in your design. Might I suggest spring loaded mounting hardware. Tipped with all north ends of magnets that are not visible, but close to the finished surface. Then, with a stronger magnet aimed to the north part of the hidden magnets over the table top, where the other magnets are hidden within, connected to the mounting hardware. The stronger magnet should repel the weaker magnet there by pushing the mounting hardware out which would allow you then to slide on, the table extension.
what bolts are you using ? I don't know how to select the bolts... like how do you decide on the bolt size/type. I have the thread inserts but don't know how to select the right bolts.
Bolts have to match the diameter & threads of the inserts they screw into, and the heads need to fit the t-track You can find guides on how to determine what info to look at, if you need more detail. I'm sure you can really just Google 'how to pick the right bolt' etc. Good luck :)
You should do a table where you have patch work, but then you patch the patch work. And re-patch the patch work. As a result you create unnatural geometric designs.
Sorry, it's horribly unpractical. You have to store those extensions somewhere separately, wiggle them in and then crawl under the table and fasten bolts. No way
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No way. I am not screwing and unscrewing every time i use this
Wouldn't be too hard to add a little knob or something to tighten up
Its just for having a lot of quests. Which is like only a couple times a year.
Then im sure you wouldnt get any sort of extending table if youre that lazy
@@alexj.5207 Like at the beginning of a new expansion
This boy takes lazy to another level
My grandparents had a table with a drop leaf, and when that folded up the joint was also almost invisible.
Much easier to engage than sliding section.
That was made in the 'old days' by a craftsman with a lifetime of handmade furniture experience.
Omg if I had to screw the extensions and then store them somewhere when removed, it would drive me nuts. We’ve an old school one and it’s gorgeous. Fold out or away, has edging, no mechanisms to see here. And besides, when you have that many guests, nobody is worried about the table, of you have good company. 😂
if youre not able to screw two damn screws without getting nuts youre allready nuts dude...
@@TheHeavyMetalMan11 this can't be a man. It HAS to be a woman. 🤦♀️🤷♀️🤣
@@cececox6399 or someone who extends their table often and recognizes that most extending tables are entirely built into the table for a reason
@@obscure.reference yeah exactly. it’s not that screwing in the bolts is particularly difficult, it’s that you’d have to do it every time you put the extension on which is just needlessly tedious to do often.
@@TheHeavyMetalMan11 yeah this is definitely a woman lmao
Nice innovation there, I like the thought you put into this. It kinda reminds me of the way I tend to over engineer simple stuff, not because it's necessary, but because it's fun to see how it works out.
Love this perspective 👏🏿
I have a a Biedermeier dining table that only has wooden shafts to insert into the table frame when extending. They can hide under the table top itself when not in use. That table top is perfectly flush and never has any gaps, while not using screws.
I can draw it exactly as it is, I also have pictures. It is fucking magnificent. It’s also a couple hundred years old this year, not sure on the exact date, it’s from somewhere between 1821 and 1828.
We use extruded aluminum all day at work. They make T bolts of these. Fit nice and snug.
I make those pieces! Crystal Finishing! We extrude aluminum for that company!
I love blacktail studios' work, and think it's gorgeous.
It does however contrast the mastery that some old woodworkers had to implement the solutions they did
That is a fantastic idea! I love how when not in use, it looks like a regular table, and how the extensions mate together with the tabletop.
I don’t know why I keep watching your videos. I always feel so inadequate when it’s over. So thanks😢
Me too🙂🙃
I love building projects using that sort of aluminum extrusion profile. Very versatile
So you say that you have to tighten the screws when extension is in place every-time..or did i miss understood…
In fairness it’s built for his house, not for market, so doing it that way is probably better for him. That and it looks like the screw tightening is only so the table extensions don’t bend downwards
That's a really great job there, fantastic 👍
I think this is awesome- a sleek, sturdy solution
We have a really old dining room table with extensions. The whole length of the table doubles with them in, and the way to extend is by pulling at it, cus the extensions sit right under the tabletop, one at each side, split in the middle of the table. When they're pulled out, the table is fairly sturdy (it's old, so...) And when you push them back in, they sit flush with the tabletop and the total thickness is maybe 1 inch. It's made from pretty heavy wood which is why it's so sturdy.
MY GOD!! THIS GUY IS THE GREATEST!!!!!!
Nice job on the deburr on the extrusion.
I absolutely love your videos; keep up the stellar work!
I Can see the join, your slipen👍😉
Wonderful work!
Very beautiful
She is lucky to have you.
Good job greetings from Ghana please you have a video on cabinets or shoe shelves please
Wow that's is amazing 👏
Nice bro.
Just beautiful, and happy wife.... Happy wife, happy life
This would just be a pain to deal with, not practical what so ever.
Did you not hear? it didn't need to be practical, it needed to be possible...
Bought one that did this seamlessly. Ikea.
Hey Cam, thank you so much for your videos! You’ve been such a huge inspiration for me to get into woodworking and I look forward to each of your posts.
I was just wondering if you have different preferred finishes for different types of projects. Ex. Rubio monocoat for this type of table or shellac for another type of table…
I love this solution
Cam lock work good
Very nice
like it, gonna try that with mine
Can you do a video on finishes for an outdoor table or bench?
Sick man
His whole family had only one wish which is him building a table for them
They do make plastic endcaps for those extrusions.
Makes em look nicer and less sharp
I love your tables. They're all gorgeous. I'm sure you already know you could have just used a cam lock with thumb handle to tighten that joint and no need for a tool when installing the extension. I apologize if I am being rude. I don't want to second guess a master table guy such as yourself. Good building keep making masterpieces.
Wouldn't that make it stick down even further than it is already ( which is a lot )
Switch it out for a coffin lock and then you can make a pretty allen key to unlock it
Another home run!
Good job
Lucky wife. She has her own carpenter. How much for her table if you sold it?😂❤
Love it. Except the need for a tool. Should have used like a quick release clamp like on bike tires
so you have to climb under your table with a screwdriver each time you want a bigger table (x4 pieces, x3 screws each piece)?
What manufacturing plant did you work at (in the past)?
Using a drill bit to hammer it 😂😂😂
Did you have to use that thicker extrusion for the weight of the extensions or can you also just use the thinner stuff? Maybe use a stud with a knob instead of screwed as well?
Looks amazing and yeah gotta find a place to store it but how many people every tried to pull those tables apart after several years or being the small table there’s just no working then mofos after a couple years
Store it behind the sideboard in the dining room. Out of sight til you need it again
How would Blacktail studio tackle this project? My mother-in-law wants a butterfly leaf table with drop leaves on it as well. The problem is that having both a butterfly leaf and drop leaves makes an issue of a very weak frame unless the top is floating because you have to cut the apron. Ideas?
He said entertaining like it was "entertaining " lol my wife's parties are boring is what it sounds like lolol
Sick
❤️ ❤️ ❤️ your channel
Where can I source the black bolts you use.
I am sure you posted them before. 😢 sorry to bother
Get a wing twist on those bolts so the owner doesnt have to use a tool to get the full function of their table
You should make a chess table
Nice
Nice..
I think the idea was decent, something I would have done. That being said, I generally work on the principal of work with what I have, how cheap can i do it. For your quality of work, I don't think your solution matches your woodwork quality. Since it's your personal furniture, I think it's fine. But challenge yourself next time. I appreciate your videos and jealous of your skill.
They're called 'Leaves"
Where do you put the extension when its not in use?
This is like the truth angle wheel. Literally no point bc the original works perfectly and has been since it was created
FWIW, I would miter the ends.
Clearly efficiency was not a factor in your design. Might I suggest spring loaded mounting hardware. Tipped with all north ends of magnets that are not visible, but close to the finished surface. Then, with a stronger magnet aimed to the north part of the hidden magnets over the table top, where the other magnets are hidden within, connected to the mounting hardware. The stronger magnet should repel the weaker magnet there by pushing the mounting hardware out which would allow you then to slide on, the table extension.
Don’t they make a rectangular profile? Instead of the square? Just to be lower profile
Seems like waaaay to much effort every time I wanna extend the table, what's wrong with a regular sliding table mechanism?
what bolts are you using ? I don't know how to select the bolts... like how do you decide on the bolt size/type. I have the thread inserts but don't know how to select the right bolts.
Bolts have to match the diameter & threads of the inserts they screw into, and the heads need to fit the t-track
You can find guides on how to determine what info to look at, if you need more detail. I'm sure you can really just Google 'how to pick the right bolt' etc. Good luck :)
How about a standard draw leaf table
How did she react? !!
So if he’s been using it for a few years now that means that this footage is a few years old and he waited years to post it?
You should have looked around a little bit longer there are better extrusions to use
Ah yes very DIY for the average viewer
We don't live in the stone age mate, run and grab a slab and chuck it on the end, there's far better and easier ways of doing this.
Why not just. Build a proper moving attached extension piece like. Literally every extending table ever created???
I've never seen an extension dining table with visible hardware. Not really, I don't think. Maybe a cheapo table or two
You should do a table where you have patch work, but then you patch the patch work. And re-patch the patch work.
As a result you create unnatural geometric designs.
Sorry, it's horribly unpractical. You have to store those extensions somewhere separately, wiggle them in and then crawl under the table and fasten bolts. No way
Ummmm... Tables were built like that for years. No hard ware and even if you want no track even.
*aluminium
Meh
Cool looking table. Do you have a full length video on this table?
Ron
Nah... That doesn't look that good and tall people will ketch their knees
Nah
Too much work.