It's fine if someone prefers this version, but comparing 3.5 to now, the game/characters feel so limited in what you can do. Not to mention how many characters were gutter trash and playing meta was much more "Required" than it is now
I think the main reason I like this mod is mostly because no character feels overwhelming or stupid to fight against but it also makes me appericate the current version of the game more with how much you can do in it
My main thing besides what you mentioned in not believing in going backwards, is literally all the characters I like playing are not fun in 3.5 and all the characters I'd come to like (SSJ Goku and Vegeta) are also not as cool in that version. There's nothing for me and i have no desire to even look at this version
I feel like “community edition” it’s not a proper name for the mod. If it was, they should take the healthier and more fun version of the character and put it in it while also being balanced. I can’t half the cast without the tools they have now to even be viable
@@denisn8336 I also like this version.... and Im not playing basevegeta,21,Zbully or other top tiers! (I play Gohan baseku ssjku their worst patch btw...)I ts just way more fun because neutral had to be played there.... and you didnt just die of of a random hit/fullscreen button into confirm.....
FGC back then: Adapt, Improve, Overcome FGC now: Rework, Revisit, Revise. Fighterz is fine. Not going back to 3.5 SF6 is fine. Not going back to V. T8 is fine. Not going back to 7. Mk1 is fine. Not going back to 11. MVCi... ok, that's different.
As of right now, it's polarizing because you have some of the most fun stuff for certain characters, some characters didn't need any of what they were given, and some weren't given any of what they needed. Some system additions like the special cancel during spark seems too over-the-top. Trim it down surgically, and I think we would have a nice overall patch.
They went way too overboard that’s the issue. All they had to do was buff a few characters and change a few things and the game would’ve been perfect. Instead they gave everyone full screen normals, made almost everyone op asf and took away most neutral.
@@hatchell18 I agree all of the full screen normals are a bit much. A large portion of the cast felt severely underpowered compared to the power houses at this time. People like to focus on the "negatives" but a lot of characters got a lot of great changes that they definitely needed in the current patch.
@@ZenithPotentia yes I agree a lot of characters got a lot of changes they needed and overall it’s good. But vegito, Gogeta, ss4 etc didn’t need any more buffs or changes at all. Outside of blue gogeta getting a 9f 2l that’s it. For the superdash etc after beam change, it should be on hit or in a combo only. Not on whiff.
I couldnt imagine playing ginyu without all the stuff they added overtime lol. Like his level 2 having no special functions, or how Burter works now. Ginyus perhaps the one character who benefited so much from every patch that hes legitimately way too different now
Honestly, I always think the best season is the our current one. Every update was something new and exciting. People are probably just tired of the annoying shenanigans. The top tiers just keep getting buffed so we're back in the era where you hardly see team variety, beam into superdash, less moves are punishable, ect. But all in all, I do think our character balance is probably the best it's been, no one feels outright awful to use. It's just that players would rather win than to have fun.
Exactly what I’m thinking, game is the best it’s ever felt since the pandemic. Every character has SOME sort of bs they can just throw out whenever they want, but obviously the better than normal characters will always be, better than normal
When they dropped 3.5 and Zamasu got NOTHING I basically stopped playing. Then 4 dropped and they hypercharged Zamasu, I was playing the most I've ever played.
People say season 3 is the best version of the game for 2 reasons, cope because their characters were on top or nostalgia because they can’t get over the fact that the game changed. For anyone who wasn’t playing the top 5 characters in the game season 3 was awful. The only advantage you had was people not knowing your matchup because you’re not playing meta.
We still need every character in their prime. Bardock, 16, GT, UI, LC, roshi! Prime roshi B or being able to string his H n S, gotenks tho, how did the broken scaling work on the UI tenks roshi build? Imagine that plus the 4 special strings lol. IG same applies to 21, the 2nd hit of the medium hasn’t rlly been effecting me like that.
Imo game's EASILY best right now. Every character is good and "the best" characters aren't much better. The game was just newer and got super hype events/dlc
See I knew I wasn't crazy when I didn't like trying to learn all of Baby's different routes. The routes themselves are simple but it's the number of them that it's just like dawg I couldn't be bothered to learn those at the time.
People really think this version is the best? or do they just like because its slower and dont have to deal with fusions? No joke like a third of the cast felt unplayable in this version and the top tiers heavily dominated the meta.
I don't understand why most players think you don't need to deal with "Fusions" anymore. There are way more characters beeing a problem in the current version than fusions. I play Zamasu, GT Goku and Baseku and they are nowhere near top tier in season 3.5 but they are all playable. Just because they can't do what they can currently do doesn't make them unplayable. Season 3 imo was the best version of the game because you had to play neutral and people didn't just move throught neutral with there buttons doing massive damage from a stray hit into two touching people, getting always a free knockdown because of active tag (where you basically took 4k damage and builded 2 bars without any execution and made good chars because of activ tag even better and the worser ones better but not on the same level others chars did) so it required more thought of spending bars and what oki you do, required more thought of assist usage in combos or mixups, needed more execution for combos and you could atleast whiff punish people when they whiffed a special move without using a full screen level 3. Atleast for me you can see a skill gap between two players way easier than in the current patch because some players don't got better over time but the characters did and just playing the game for you at some point. It is completely fine if people like the current patch more than this because you have more options for combos and most players like it because every character can compete with everyone and they feel more finished than the 3.5 chars. But for me on a competitiv level it isn't fun fighting chars like trunks because he gets a massiv reward for pressing 5S in neutral without any weaknesses behind it and mostly massiv damage of off 236H where you can continue your combo afterwards without spending any ressources. There are way more chars that I don't like fighting in the current version because of some insane buffs they got over time like moves that are ki invul that kill others chars neutral moves or some chars with guardpoint on grabs and other stuff that makes blocking in this game a joke that made me lose the fun that I had back then.
@@Patify_trunks ex slash before the last 2 patches was easily one of the worst ex moves in the game, had to vanish after for no damage no knockdown no meter it was awful and 5s before was notoriously one of the hardest moves to confirm off of in the game because it had no hitstun. Let him rock he’s been consistently put at the bottom 5 character for like almost 4 years
My problem is some characters that needed major help from that time (S 3.5/Patch 1.27) is back to being mid or straight up bad. But the game that time neutral was actually important and zoning was stronger imo. That being said, the combo game for characters is kinda mid in patch 1.27 or s3.5. While the good things of current patch were mainly the combos and making beams actually somewhat useable, but flawed since sd cancel should only happen on hit, neutral feels stupid to play on, rlly what everyone rlly needed was polish beam SD cancel to make it where on hit it can happen, and more whiff recovery on almost every move in the game. Theres some i maybe missed out on more but help me point out some more things. And i prefer a fighting game where all characters are good (or at least useable) but some out performs some others, thats like the one thing i liked about current patch, but old patch (1.27) actually made neutral important
Not only is this version worse, but I feel like some characters like UI and Kid Buu STILL NEED SOME BUFFS IN THE CURRENT VERSION of the game. Buff ideas: give UI a 6 frame 2L so he can actually mash out of 6M without being beaten outright, he should also have a 6H mid air to give him better mid air defense. Give Kid Buu staircase combos that work on small characters (staircase combos only work on medium+ size characters) and reverse beat on 5M -> 5L/2L that way he can actually get good pressure from getting in on neutral just to make him ON PAR with other zoners. Lastly, please give Yamcha mid screen rejumps he is the only character in the game to not have any form of mid screen rejump outside of spending an EX move which is a problem that was partially solved on even UI GOKU of all characters.
A slight continuation: Give freezer A more hitstun, it’s a fantastic smokescreen, but it’s very much limited by its lack of hitstun. Give Tenshinhan A more blockstun and Tenshinhan B should generate .75 (same amount as red Gogeta A with level 5 taunt) bars after Chioutsu dies. He should also be able to tag into Chioutsu level 3 after an one of your teammates dies via tagging into level 3 and holding SD and final buff the Chioutsu super is that you should be able to have level 1 or 2 into Chioutsu super during limit break.
I mean it’s expected when you put it up against a patch like this one where character power, and team variety was so low. Most people don’t want to play a patch where they can’t enjoy their characters
@@wildrussiansnake8978 Well thats the thing dawg, there's a mod that's been done with this 3.5 patch has done without sacrificing character power. Its called Ultimate DBFZ and it does a great job fixing most balancing issues such as fullscreen normals, EX move over usage (Like lariats), addressing spark vanish mix and the sparking mechanic as a whole, balancing out the tag mechanic and so many other things. If anything THAT is the mod that should be being pushed right now IMO. If i were you i would give it a look.
@@wildrussiansnake8978 thats the thing though, there are mods out there that do it better without sacrificing character power while still balancing the game properly. Like the UDBFZ mod. It balances the game a lot better than 3.5 IMO.
The reason why u kept disconnecting is becos the people u were playing with didn't have the mod, if u have easy anticheat off and play with someone with anty cheat on after a while it shuts down. This mod still uses the main servers.
Half of this game is doing combos’s and I cannot go back to dry bread mid screen/corner combos for my characters also watching it for an hour already was boring seeing 21 level 3 over and over again 😂 did not miss that one, fair neutral is cool but casually I don’t see much reason to go back to a nerfed version of my team. If you played base vegeta 21 then it’s your favourite version I guess
Its not a nerf. This is a mod that reverts the game back to an older version. Its not that hes been nerfed, but in this version of the game, that move didn't exist for Ginyu.
Hard disagree. 3.5 had actual gameplay and strategy. I feel like people are just used to invincible normals. That shit is not anything near what an actual fighting game should play like
All I can really say is, people shouldn’t be condemned for wanting to play a season not bloated by overtuning with no proper checks or balances. While I agree, sure, some characters needed things to play the game, putting obscene amounts of Invul; Travel Time; and Guardpoint or some form of advantageous whiff; does not answer a games’ issues it just creates more. While I can say more, most folks who consume fighting games have no knowledge on what it means to make one and how the game is *supposed* to go and that’s why there is a disconnect on what to really talk about in a FG cuz at the end of the day; Nobody cares about the basis for which is every player, most of y’all only want what’s good for yourself and that’s just how the cookie crumbles.
I can agree with this but if that was the case and people were genuinely looking for stuff like that i feel like there was a better mod out there that has existed far longer than this 3.5 patch mod has. Such as UDBFZ, that is still even getting updates to this day. Though tbh this is just an overall win for the modding community.
@ that’s not exactly a “better” mod if anything it’s what inspired the chaotic change as the point of UDBFZ isn’t to fix the game, it’s to create a different one.
@ Which again, most of those changes are tailored to benefit the person who created it, not the community. If that was the case, more people would play that than the current patch and Mods unless you are UMVC3 do not garnish half that attention.
@@DoeJiinShii Alright yeah my fault for saying "Better" i should have just said In my opinion. Though that point about the changes tailored to benefit solely the person who created it is wrong because they've actually gotten a lot of feed back and play testing from the community and pros before making a lot of the balancing decisions on the game and is constantly open to people challenging the changes made in favor of making better changes for everyone who would want to play the mod. When i said "Fixing" i meant that it addresses almost all of the base game issues a lot of people had problems with, such as fullscreen normals, spark into vanish mix, EX move lariat strength, Character tag balancing, Happy birthday adjustments, team synergy and strategies etc, etc. It did all this while providing new moves for characters too that didn't break their kits and didn't make them over bearing. You're right about that last statement though, mods barely do get attention.
I mean, community input is good and obviously you’re going to address what people want but he still solely made it to not want to play the base game and a game in his vision. Which is still making a sole benefit of a game to yourself, it’s not a bad thing yo. It’s what any gamer or developer is designed to do.
In current version there are a lot of neutral skips in a "neutral based" game. The 3.5 version feels like you really need to work in neutral to accomplish something
Neutral "skips" are a part of neutral I feel like people think neutral is just staring each other down, walking back and forth, not accomplishing anything at all
Neutral in dbfz exists but it's not a very long time until you or your opponent gets hit with something in neutral, game mechanics make it impossible to have an entirely lame playstyle, unlike marvel 2 for example, where being completely lame was a very strong and viable option.
ngl it might be unpopular but i rly enjoy the current version of the game even if it did get rid of a couple of my combos
same same
Same
It is an unpopular opinion for sure the last 2 patches killed the game tbh
And the rollback version is terrible can’t play 2 matches without disconnecting every minute
@@MrJMW007 tbh it's been mostly fine for me but i prefer offline anyway
It's fine if someone prefers this version, but comparing 3.5 to now, the game/characters feel so limited in what you can do.
Not to mention how many characters were gutter trash and playing meta was much more "Required" than it is now
7:55 that made my jaw drop i completely forgot 5s used to whiff shorties and crouchers
Thank you Aco, for the unwelcome reminder of how hot doodoo butter pre-Season 4 Zam was. My man had NOTHING
I think the main reason I like this mod is mostly because no character feels overwhelming or stupid to fight against but it also makes me appericate the current version of the game more with how much you can do in it
My main thing besides what you mentioned in not believing in going backwards, is literally all the characters I like playing are not fun in 3.5 and all the characters I'd come to like (SSJ Goku and Vegeta) are also not as cool in that version. There's nothing for me and i have no desire to even look at this version
I feel like “community edition” it’s not a proper name for the mod. If it was, they should take the healthier and more fun version of the character and put it in it while also being balanced.
I can’t half the cast without the tools they have now to even be viable
@@astilla4729I’d call it inzem dekillsage lotus edition cause those are the people who like this version.
I love current dbfz
@@astilla4729 I was also gonna talk about that but i felt like my comment was pretty lengthy already
@@denisn8336 I also like this version.... and Im not playing basevegeta,21,Zbully or other top tiers! (I play Gohan baseku ssjku their worst patch btw...)I ts just way more fun because neutral had to be played there.... and you didnt just die of of a random hit/fullscreen button into confirm.....
@@gamerflo1994 good for you but this edition of the game is incredibly dry. Neutral and good oki is all it had
People hate fusion so bad they traveled back in time lol
Like Gogeta and Vegito weren't extremely popular during this era too.
i never played this version of the game but as a Zamasu main now i couldn’t imagine go back and playing this version of the character
What’s funny is one of my favorite tekken 8 TH-camrs said the same thing, nice vid
*As a long time, Bardock and Trunks' main 3.5 is the dark timeline. I'd definitely revert some system mechanics, though.*
Some characters became more complete. Blugeta apart from the grab and insane damage actually got some good QOL changes that made him fun to use
I think this mod was a wake-up call to ppl wanna go back to the olden days of dbfz.
FGC back then: Adapt, Improve, Overcome
FGC now: Rework, Revisit, Revise.
Fighterz is fine. Not going back to 3.5
SF6 is fine. Not going back to V.
T8 is fine. Not going back to 7.
Mk1 is fine. Not going back to 11.
MVCi... ok, that's different.
My man, you're real as fuck for omitting strive, Xrd IS better
Forgot about Strive. Lol
As of right now, it's polarizing because you have some of the most fun stuff for certain characters, some characters didn't need any of what they were given, and some weren't given any of what they needed. Some system additions like the special cancel during spark seems too over-the-top.
Trim it down surgically, and I think we would have a nice overall patch.
No you don't get it the game was totally better back when half the roster didn't have basic tools
They went way too overboard that’s the issue. All they had to do was buff a few characters and change a few things and the game would’ve been perfect. Instead they gave everyone full screen normals, made almost everyone op asf and took away most neutral.
@@hatchell18 And everything would have been fine if they just didn't add beam cancel as a universal thing
@@hatchell18 I agree all of the full screen normals are a bit much. A large portion of the cast felt severely underpowered compared to the power houses at this time. People like to focus on the "negatives" but a lot of characters got a lot of great changes that they definitely needed in the current patch.
@@ZenithPotentia yes I agree a lot of characters got a lot of changes they needed and overall it’s good. But vegito, Gogeta, ss4 etc didn’t need any more buffs or changes at all. Outside of blue gogeta getting a 9f 2l that’s it. For the superdash etc after beam change, it should be on hit or in a combo only. Not on whiff.
I couldnt imagine playing ginyu without all the stuff they added overtime lol. Like his level 2 having no special functions, or how Burter works now. Ginyus perhaps the one character who benefited so much from every patch that hes legitimately way too different now
Honestly, I always think the best season is the our current one. Every update was something new and exciting. People are probably just tired of the annoying shenanigans. The top tiers just keep getting buffed so we're back in the era where you hardly see team variety, beam into superdash, less moves are punishable, ect.
But all in all, I do think our character balance is probably the best it's been, no one feels outright awful to use. It's just that players would rather win than to have fun.
Exactly what I’m thinking, game is the best it’s ever felt since the pandemic. Every character has SOME sort of bs they can just throw out whenever they want, but obviously the better than normal characters will always be, better than normal
When they dropped 3.5 and Zamasu got NOTHING I basically stopped playing. Then 4 dropped and they hypercharged Zamasu, I was playing the most I've ever played.
Nah. Current patch is where it's at.
People say season 3 is the best version of the game for 2 reasons, cope because their characters were on top or nostalgia because they can’t get over the fact that the game changed. For anyone who wasn’t playing the top 5 characters in the game season 3 was awful. The only advantage you had was people not knowing your matchup because you’re not playing meta.
Ultimate DBFZ unironically looks more fun than this.
It’s quite honestly the more balanced version too since no character gets left behind.
Honestly wish more people would talk about that mod.
We still need every character in their prime. Bardock, 16, GT, UI, LC, roshi! Prime roshi B or being able to string his H n S, gotenks tho, how did the broken scaling work on the UI tenks roshi build? Imagine that plus the 4 special strings lol. IG same applies to 21, the 2nd hit of the medium hasn’t rlly been effecting me like that.
Imo game's EASILY best right now. Every character is good and "the best" characters aren't much better.
The game was just newer and got super hype events/dlc
i think the game is peak now
See I knew I wasn't crazy when I didn't like trying to learn all of Baby's different routes. The routes themselves are simple but it's the number of them that it's just like dawg I couldn't be bothered to learn those at the time.
I don’t see the appeal of this version it’s so limited
People really think this version is the best? or do they just like because its slower and dont have to deal with fusions? No joke like a third of the cast felt unplayable in this version and the top tiers heavily dominated the meta.
Only people who their mains were top tier in this version think this patch is good
I don't understand why most players think you don't need to deal with "Fusions" anymore. There are way more characters beeing a problem in the current version than fusions. I play Zamasu, GT Goku and Baseku and they are nowhere near top tier in season 3.5 but they are all playable. Just because they can't do what they can currently do doesn't make them unplayable. Season 3 imo was the best version of the game because you had to play neutral and people didn't just move throught neutral with there buttons doing massive damage from a stray hit into two touching people, getting always a free knockdown because of active tag (where you basically took 4k damage and builded 2 bars without any execution and made good chars because of activ tag even better and the worser ones better but not on the same level others chars did) so it required more thought of spending bars and what oki you do, required more thought of assist usage in combos or mixups, needed more execution for combos and you could atleast whiff punish people when they whiffed a special move without using a full screen level 3. Atleast for me you can see a skill gap between two players way easier than in the current patch because some players don't got better over time but the characters did and just playing the game for you at some point. It is completely fine if people like the current patch more than this because you have more options for combos and most players like it because every character can compete with everyone and they feel more finished than the 3.5 chars. But for me on a competitiv level it isn't fun fighting chars like trunks because he gets a massiv reward for pressing 5S in neutral without any weaknesses behind it and mostly massiv damage of off 236H where you can continue your combo afterwards without spending any ressources. There are way more chars that I don't like fighting in the current version because of some insane buffs they got over time like moves that are ki invul that kill others chars neutral moves or some chars with guardpoint on grabs and other stuff that makes blocking in this game a joke that made me lose the fun that I had back then.
@@Patify_ the game still has neutral, just play it well and you'll win against scrubs lol
@@Patify_trunks ex slash before the last 2 patches was easily one of the worst ex moves in the game, had to vanish after for no damage no knockdown no meter it was awful and 5s before was notoriously one of the hardest moves to confirm off of in the game because it had no hitstun. Let him rock he’s been consistently put at the bottom 5 character for like almost 4 years
Tbh this is not the best the best Patch version in dbfz
My problem is some characters that needed major help from that time (S 3.5/Patch 1.27) is back to being mid or straight up bad. But the game that time neutral was actually important and zoning was stronger imo. That being said, the combo game for characters is kinda mid in patch 1.27 or s3.5. While the good things of current patch were mainly the combos and making beams actually somewhat useable, but flawed since sd cancel should only happen on hit, neutral feels stupid to play on, rlly what everyone rlly needed was polish beam SD cancel to make it where on hit it can happen, and more whiff recovery on almost every move in the game. Theres some i maybe missed out on more but help me point out some more things. And i prefer a fighting game where all characters are good (or at least useable) but some out performs some others, thats like the one thing i liked about current patch, but old patch (1.27) actually made neutral important
Not only is this version worse, but I feel like some characters like UI and Kid Buu STILL NEED SOME BUFFS IN THE CURRENT VERSION of the game.
Buff ideas: give UI a 6 frame 2L so he can actually mash out of 6M without being beaten outright, he should also have a 6H mid air to give him better mid air defense.
Give Kid Buu staircase combos that work on small characters (staircase combos only work on medium+ size characters) and reverse beat on 5M -> 5L/2L that way he can actually get good pressure from getting in on neutral just to make him ON PAR with other zoners.
Lastly, please give Yamcha mid screen rejumps he is the only character in the game to not have any form of mid screen rejump outside of spending an EX move which is a problem that was partially solved on even UI GOKU of all characters.
A slight continuation:
Give freezer A more hitstun, it’s a fantastic smokescreen, but it’s very much limited by its lack of hitstun.
Give Tenshinhan A more blockstun and Tenshinhan B should generate .75 (same amount as red Gogeta A with level 5 taunt) bars after Chioutsu dies. He should also be able to tag into Chioutsu level 3 after an one of your teammates dies via tagging into level 3 and holding SD and final buff the Chioutsu super is that you should be able to have level 1 or 2 into Chioutsu super during limit break.
For me it's sad to see how many people genuinely love the current patch.
I mean it’s expected when you put it up against a patch like this one where character power, and team variety was so low. Most people don’t want to play a patch where they can’t enjoy their characters
@TheWindBlack I feel like most characters are still enjoyable and i love Zam, but his sacrifice is more than worthy for an actual neutral based game
@@wildrussiansnake8978 Well thats the thing dawg, there's a mod that's been done with this 3.5 patch has done without sacrificing character power. Its called Ultimate DBFZ and it does a great job fixing most balancing issues such as fullscreen normals, EX move over usage (Like lariats), addressing spark vanish mix and the sparking mechanic as a whole, balancing out the tag mechanic and so many other things. If anything THAT is the mod that should be being pushed right now IMO. If i were you i would give it a look.
@@wildrussiansnake8978 thats the thing though, there are mods out there that do it better without sacrificing character power while still balancing the game properly. Like the UDBFZ mod. It balances the game a lot better than 3.5 IMO.
@TheWindBlack I will check it out
Strength to us main cooler, bardock, goku ssj
The reason why u kept disconnecting is becos the people u were playing with didn't have the mod, if u have easy anticheat off and play with someone with anty cheat on after a while it shuts down. This mod still uses the main servers.
thinking 3.5 was better than now is actually low IQ
Half of this game is doing combos’s and I cannot go back to dry bread mid screen/corner combos for my characters also watching it for an hour already was boring seeing 21 level 3 over and over again 😂 did not miss that one, fair neutral is cool but casually I don’t see much reason to go back to a nerfed version of my team. If you played base vegeta 21 then it’s your favourite version I guess
Yall say this is the best version literally in every update
you literally didn't watch the video. Nice self report.
Why nerf ginyu 5s man he really needed that
Its not a nerf. This is a mod that reverts the game back to an older version. Its not that hes been nerfed, but in this version of the game, that move didn't exist for Ginyu.
Ah yes, the old times were so much better (half of the roster was unplayable)
Is everyone RQing or is it just the connection?
I was desyncing, you can only fight people who have the mod installed
People can prefer this version but I hate the way people talk shit about the current patch saying its a "party game" etc.
its a fun party game thats not a bad thing
@luigiwiiUU people use the term party game with negative connotations though
@@theninjaofdeath879 because they're stupid
Hard disagree. 3.5 had actual gameplay and strategy. I feel like people are just used to invincible normals. That shit is not anything near what an actual fighting game should play like
All I can really say is, people shouldn’t be condemned for wanting to play a season not bloated by overtuning with no proper checks or balances.
While I agree, sure, some characters needed things to play the game, putting obscene amounts of Invul; Travel Time; and Guardpoint or some form of advantageous whiff; does not answer a games’ issues it just creates more.
While I can say more, most folks who consume fighting games have no knowledge on what it means to make one and how the game is *supposed* to go and that’s why there is a disconnect on what to really talk about in a FG cuz at the end of the day;
Nobody cares about the basis for which is every player, most of y’all only want what’s good for yourself and that’s just how the cookie crumbles.
I can agree with this but if that was the case and people were genuinely looking for stuff like that i feel like there was a better mod out there that has existed far longer than this 3.5 patch mod has. Such as UDBFZ, that is still even getting updates to this day. Though tbh this is just an overall win for the modding community.
@ that’s not exactly a “better” mod if anything it’s what inspired the chaotic change as the point of UDBFZ isn’t to fix the game, it’s to create a different one.
@ Which again, most of those changes are tailored to benefit the person who created it, not the community. If that was the case, more people would play that than the current patch and Mods unless you are UMVC3 do not garnish half that attention.
@@DoeJiinShii Alright yeah my fault for saying "Better" i should have just said In my opinion. Though that point about the changes tailored to benefit solely the person who created it is wrong because they've actually gotten a lot of feed back and play testing from the community and pros before making a lot of the balancing decisions on the game and is constantly open to people challenging the changes made in favor of making better changes for everyone who would want to play the mod.
When i said "Fixing" i meant that it addresses almost all of the base game issues a lot of people had problems with, such as fullscreen normals, spark into vanish mix, EX move lariat strength, Character tag balancing, Happy birthday adjustments, team synergy and strategies etc, etc. It did all this while providing new moves for characters too that didn't break their kits and didn't make them over bearing. You're right about that last statement though, mods barely do get attention.
I mean, community input is good and obviously you’re going to address what people want but he still solely made it to not want to play the base game and a game in his vision. Which is still making a sole benefit of a game to yourself, it’s not a bad thing yo. It’s what any gamer or developer is designed to do.
In current version there are a lot of neutral skips in a "neutral based" game. The 3.5 version feels like you really need to work in neutral to accomplish something
Neutral "skips" are a part of neutral
I feel like people think neutral is just staring each other down, walking back and forth, not accomplishing anything at all
DBFZ is anything but a neutral based game. There are neutral aspects in DBFZ, but let's not pretend like superDash, vanish, and raw tag arent a thing.
Neutral in dbfz exists but it's not a very long time until you or your opponent gets hit with something in neutral, game mechanics make it impossible to have an entirely lame playstyle, unlike marvel 2 for example, where being completely lame was a very strong and viable option.