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@@garytucker8696 as that wasnt part of the presentation buddy, if you wish a more overview of Sumerian royalty and governance, ill be happy to look at in in a future presentation. Great idea though :)
Why we care? Surely that isn't needed. They are the most fascinating civilization I know. Writing yes but the Sumerians gave us loads of firsts. All of the things civilisations use from banking to beer making to medicine to agriculture. If I could get in a time machine, that's where I'd go. Cheers.
Nice to see you again. Need to speak with you directly at sometime as I plan on visiting in 2022. Need to talk about getting a visa etc . BTW wherein Iraq are you?
Thanks you Nick and Christopher! Nick, your production makes the words come alive and enhance the wonderful history that Chris brings to this fascinating topic. Hope your Holidays are great! Love, David
Please adjust volume level of the Music downwards. It wakes up my neighbors. Driving me nuts since a long time. Thank you for this episode . Keep up your great work,,we appreciate it a lot. - edited for clarity
@Christopher Cressey My excuses, I did not mention I just meant the music sound level. At the beginning and the end of the video. BTW, the narration you do is good, I like your work. Also, thanks for being so active in the comments. - Johan
@Christopher Cressey Nice, have seen some videos on pictographic and iconographic writing. Super interesting, worth several episodes.👍 Good luck with the new mic!
some words came be into one language from another language by some other languages for example from sumerian into akkadian into Aramaic language into middle persian or arabic into dari persian(modern persian or farsi).. for example the world naneh meaning the mother is using in persian and this is a sumerian word and how it gets there??
@@goulakh555 the same word for mother is used in south iraq meaning grandmother though it's not the first choice and not the most common option, actully few sumerian world are still in use in the iraqi dialect of arabic specially the south, i think each group influenced the next until it arrived to us in modern time.
@Cat Magic Hey there yes I have heard of this, but I am not sure. The precursor to Sumerian writing, was a system of accounting by the Ubaids (who owned what) so as far as writing as in mathematics accounting is concerned the Ubaids of Mesopotamia might just have had it first.
Hey folks for those who were "commenting" on the Sumerian city or UR originally being URIM and the word UR literally means DOG in Sumerian. What follows is a more detailed explanation : The Semetic name for that city was UR with the Sumerian being URIM (See Tablet of Ur-nammi )Lu-gal Kish Lu-gal Urim. The Word UR in SUMERIAN literally means DOG. An example would be" common use of "ur" on Sumerian royal inscriptions is in the expression "ur-sag", which literally means "top dog", and which is usually translated "warrior" or "hero"." What I did NOT say in the video is that it is possible that the word UR, comes from the Sumerian word URU which means 'town' Some more examples : urbarra 𒌨𒁇𒊏 “wolf” (“outside dog”) uridim 𒌨𒅂 “wild dog, rabid dog” (“wild dog”) urtur 𒌨𒌉 “puppy”, urgir 𒌨𒆪 “watchdog (Notice the 'UR's) So in reference to follower of Clay's "comment" based upon AMPLE evidence, I was correct in saying the UR is Sumerian word for DOG. Thanking you kindly
HOT DAMN!!!!! This series is gonna be Stellar!!! Thanks for the links/sharing. Totally awesome!!! Do wish the names of what people called themselves and their places were used by us. I want to learn to read cuneiform but still struggling with French Latin and hieroglyphics. Hope someday someone will figure out Minoan.....Saving up for Sumerian Sea Peoples and Hittite Merch.....so awesome!!!
Hello many thanks im Christopher, who voiced and wrote the presentation. I can give you some books to start off with in order to help. First learn Assyrian as the pronunciation and basic grammar rules are ALL the same. Try a Work book of Cuneiform signs by DC Snell (its free from archive.org) but i have the original. Also try Materials for a Sumerian Lexicon by CJ Gadd also on archive.org. A Sumerian reader by Konrad Volks, Sumerian Grammartik in Babylonian theory by S Pohl is another good one. Please keep me apprised of your studies, would love to hear how you are doing. Yours in Sumer: Christopher Cressey
@@theSFCchannel Well I just been sent over the moon with this reply!!! Can't thank you enough! This will be an amazing journey!!! Really fabulous work/content. Will let you know how I'm progressing .....thank you soooooooo much.
@@stephenmichalski2643 here is another fantastic resource, By the way HIGHLY encourage you to use it in order to authenticate and check my work,as you see the pseudo science peoples such as Sitchin will not encourage you to check their work using freely available online tools :( You can count this as your go-to tool that has been made by Oxford graduates and professors in the subject. Whilst it doesn't pretend to translate into English, it does however monitor if the 'transliterated' word comes up in Sumerian literature. etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/
Also if you can read German there is Fundamentals of Sumerian Grammar by Anno Pobel. I will leave it there for now as i do not wish to overload you with information and resources. Feel free to stop by my facebook group anytime.
Agreed, so putting things together you can wonder at the origins of ALL their pantheon-judging the Hul-Gil they were "smoking" :P but you forgot SEX too, the bit Akitu ceremony involved LOTS of sex for the first 7 days and later 11 days in Babylon: Cheers fella
@@theSFCchannel I'm from SW USA and a lot of our Snowbirds (winter residents from the cold North) are from Montana. They wear t-shirts with I "heart" sheep on them and have a hundred jokes about Montana ranch hands getting drunk/loaded and having sex with sheep (I dunno, maybe not many females living up there?). I was like, wow, the Sumerians did that too?!
I kind of wish from the very beginning in the school systems we get taught the actual names and pronunciations that these people used, instead of these cookie-cutter names we created for ourselves. For immersion purposes, it makes a huge difference. Also, it links the people that live there today to their ancient civilization. Once we start latinizing, or anglicizing names and pronunciations suddenly we seem to relate to them more than the people who live there today. Which is obviously 100% wrong.
Yeah see what you did there and your right. Seems like things have been told in reverse. I'm starting to understand what words like conqueror really means, man they took a lot from us.
Marko, i'm the gentleman who's voice is on this presentation. MANY thanks for your comment and i totally agree, the grammar and pronunciation of Sumerian is largely GUESS work, based upon the natural development of later civilisations. Take for example a book I have in my collection. "Sumerian Grammartik in Babylonian theory" by S Pohl. Your statement was fantastic and thank you for your contribution towards understanding of the subject matter: Christopher
The sky mountain was a comet which is the Taurid Stream now. They probably originated from the valley under the Persian Gulf before the 400' sea level rise.
Nice job... but I wonder if you put too much on the Sumerians, and not enough on their predecessors... Pre Ubaid, Natufians show a start on irrigation, and beer making in shallow depressions, as well as complex grain bread, which is harder to make then beer... or so I heard. ??? What do you think? Did the climate change that impacted the Natufians loose these talents? And a second climate change that was less significant at about 8Kyears ago mix the timeline up? Is the Sumerian culture a rebuild, or all-new thing?
Archeology suggests Sumerians came from the East, somewhere in the Iranian Zagros or plateau. For example, both alcohol and Geometric tokens of pre-writing are both traceable to Iran (the former on the site of Godin Tepe)
Sumerian school life was a hard one?... my great grandfather was a school principal in the 1920's & 1930's, well known virtuoso of the cane (standard teaching implement of the day), sounds like not much changed for 5K years lol
Indeed they had it in my my primary and middle school, but luckily I never got the bad side of it:P Think it was for the reason that I was a Teachers pet in history, though I give you my word that I NEVER polished an apple! :P :P Fantastic comment cheers
Around 3:50 You mentioned that they referred to themselves as the black heads, and at the same time you are showing pictures of people colored in black; then your best interpretation is that they looked much like the modern day Iraqis? That's rather puzzling I should say
Anunaki : ano nug Enlil : inlil Anu : anu Ur : ur Kibadu: kibad Diin : diin Ninhursag : nin horsug Bel : beel Ninurta : ninurta Eridu : irid Uruk : urug And more smilar Marduk means who died once
We recreate the misty ancient past in our own image and ignorant preconceptions. River front city cast abounding in multistory buildings, room full of cuneiform scribes, and multitude of middle school aged students is only a modern delusion put onto the simpler early past. Sumer was not riverfront Rome or New York. The literate were rare as particle physicists.
Word to the wise. Don’t be referring to women by their lady parts nowadays. You will probably get relieved of your man parts. 🤔 Nice addition. I’ve never heard that detail before.
Thank you for the great humoured comment: Here is something I forgot to add:0) The Sumerian word for Demon is Gala, bit it is also the same word for a woman's private parts :0 So 'demon p*ssy' springs to mind ~d:
@Cat Magic You mean he grabbed women by the 'Gala' (sumerian word for Vagina. But please don't mistake it for GALLA (Gallu in Akkadian) as that is a type of Sumerian demon of the netherworld: Hmm "Demon vagina?" ARRRRG get these thoughts from my head please :P
More of the orthodox version of events... if we are to get into the "mind of the people of Sumer" as the narrator entices us to do, then we should know that they never called their overlords "gods" and their writing, agriculture, mathematics and law was "taught" to the Sumerians by them. They themselves wrote that they didn't develop them.
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 Now, forget Sitchin. Forget the alternative-to-“mainstream” theories. Please just read any translation of the Sumerian accounts you are comfortable with, as well as the accounts of ALL ancient civilizations that are translated properly. They ALL say they were GIVEN these things in question. Would this be a coincidence?
Hey there Hermes, I am afraid you have been misled. Sitchen's degree at The London University is not in Ancient Sumerian history, it is actually in ECONOMIC history and that degree doesn't cover anything before 1750 CE. Unlike Sitchin I HIGHLY encourage you to check anything I say and use it with FREELY available online tools such as; The Electronic Corpus of Sumerian literature. So anyway what did Sitchen say, the "SHEM' a Sumerian word meaning Rocket? May kindly remind you that there is no such word as 'SHEM ' in Sumerian its not even Sumerian at all, rather its the much later Hebrew word meaning "Name" I have looked at all the recorded works of Sumerian literature online and there is not one single word for "Rocket" nor is there a word called "Shem". However let me peruse this avenue further, the actual Sumerian concept or 'word ' if you will for 'name is' is 'MU' . So please excuse me for sounding a little sarcastic, however this is BASIC Sumerian that one learns in the first 3 months on any University Sumerian language course. So the question that begs to be asked, if Sitchin has gotten the basics incorrect then what else has he gotten wrong? Lastly I personally asked Sitchin (when he was alive) and the other pseudoscience guy David Icke, why did they LIE about tablet VA 243 and substitute the sun symbol? In my experience people who follow Sitchin/Icke are generally lazy people who cannot be bothered to employ the use of FREELY available online tools in order to check and authenticate their work. The problem with these types is that the above-mentioned fraudsters put back serious Sumerian studies by decades. In a direct answer to your question, if course the Sumers called their deities gods, (in fact this again is basic sumerian cuneiform) rather they employed the use of the concept 'DINGIR' which means god/gods/heaven and AN/ANU Himself. This is demonstrated by the asterix. You will find its also an honorific used when a writer is speaking about a deity. Take for example the tablet of Ur-Nammu which in itself is a simply foundation stone for a temple in dedication to Inanna (15) An example of which is found here upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Ur-Nammu_dedication_tablet_for_the_Temple_of_Inanna_in_Uruk_%28horizontal%29.jpg/640px-Ur-Nammu_dedication_tablet_for_the_Temple_of_Inanna_in_Uruk_%28horizontal%29.jpg Please note the first symbol Dingir and the second symbol that of Inanna (15) herself. I can also demonstrate this concept in a more practical term. I f "lu-ul dumu-dingir -ra-na an-gim he-en-ku-ga (Transliterated) May this man the son of his god become holy like the heavens! (Translated) Another example is the very rare incantation to UTU (10) Dingir Gal-gal-e-ne di-di ma-ra-ab sug-ge-es The great gods will present themselves for your judgement More uses of the word Dingir can be found on 'The Harps that Once......" By T Jakobsen. for example In all honesty I guess nothing I can say can convince you otherwise, however i feel duty bound to at least point out these things. Take care PS: You have given me an idea on a distant future presentation, on why I think Sitchen is a fraud.
Sumerians are indigenous inhabitants of Mesopotamia. But their gods came to Earth from Mars after nuclear war which destroys their civilization. Their gods gave Sumerians knowledge, skills and tools, which made Sumerian civilization unique and so mystic.
Ismayil I thank you for being here, however just with the other post you have been misled, if I may copy and paste what I said to the other gentleman, it is with hopes you will bare that in mind in the future. ................Sitchen's degree at The London University is not in Ancient Sumerian history, it is actually in ECONOMIC history and that degree doesn't cover anything before 1750 CE. Unlike Sitchin I HIGHLY encourage you to check anything I say and use it with FREELY available online tools such as; The Electronic Corpus of Sumerian literature. So anyway what did Sitchen say, the "SHEM' a Sumerian word meaning Rocket? May kindly remind you that there is no such word as 'SHEM ' in Sumerian its not even Sumerian at all, rather its the much later Hebrew word meaning "Name" I have looked at all the recorded works of Sumerian literature online and there is not one single word for "Rocket" nor is there a word called "Shem". However let me peruse this avenue further, the actual Sumerian concept or 'word ' if you will for 'name is' is 'MU' . So please excuse me for sounding a little sarcastic, however this is BASIC Sumerian that one learns in the first 3 months on any University Sumerian language course. So the question that begs to be asked, if Sitchin has gotten the basics incorrect then what else has he gotten wrong? Lastly I personally asked Sitchin (when he was alive) and the other pseudoscience guy David Icke, why did they LIE about tablet VA 243 and substitute the sun symbol? In my experience people who follow Sitchin/Icke are generally lazy people who cannot be bothered to employ the use of FREELY available online tools in order to check and authenticate their work. The problem with these types is that the above-mentioned fraudsters put back serious Sumerian studies by decades. In a direct answer to your question, if course the Sumers called their deities gods, (in fact this again is basic sumerian cuneiform) rather they employed the use of the concept 'DINGIR' which means god/gods/heaven and AN/ANU Himself. This is demonstrated by the asterix. You will find its also an honorific used when a writer is speaking about a deity. Take for example the tablet of Ur-Nammu which in itself is a simply foundation stone for a temple in dedication to Inanna (15) An example of which is found here upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Ur-Nammu_dedication_tablet_for_the_Temple_of_Inanna_in_Uruk_%28horizontal%29.jpg/640px-Ur-Nammu_dedication_tablet_for_the_Temple_of_Inanna_in_Uruk_%28horizontal%29.jpg Please note the first symbol Dingir and the second symbol that of Inanna (15) herself. I can also demonstrate this concept in a more practical term. I f "lu-ul dumu-dingir -ra-na an-gim he-en-ku-ga (Transliterated) May this man the son of his god become holy like the heavens! (Translated) Another example is the very rare incantation to UTU (10) Dingir Gal-gal-e-ne di-di ma-ra-ab sug-ge-es The great gods will present themselves for your judgement More uses of the word Dingir can be found on 'The Harps that Once......" By T Jakobsen. for example In all honesty I guess nothing I can say can convince you otherwise, however i feel duty bound to at least point out these things. In a future video I will tell of a story of where i asked David Icke to prove his "all the troubles in the world started with five families in ancient sumer" you know the video after where this fruitcake proclaimed that he was the son of god. Take care PS: You have given me an idea on a distant future presentation, on why I think Sitchen is a fraud
you are obviously an American, right? 1:) I am English-born and raised in England- GREAT Britain and more so than your good self will ever be. It is a pity that you are unable to understand the language from its mother country. Please do attempt to obtain a passport and visit said mother country and you will be surprised on what an education you will receive.
@@theSFCchannel I've had the pleasure of visiting England and the rest of GB on many occasions-- frequently with a valid passport. I like it there because in general the people are charming with understatement, and forthright when necessary. To this end, they've clearly advised me to stay away from places where your particular accent is spoken.
@Christopher Cressey Well first of all, you need to make those caps go away; they're considered an indication of low educational standards in both Norway and Ireland, too. Speaking a dialect that resembles Beowulf is both uninteresting and hard to understand. But I'm glad that you didn't seem t pick it up on the streets but rather on a Kelto-Viking commune far up north. I visited one near Wordsworth's cottage on the lake, btw. Charming, but incoherent. We amerikan peeple have weird dialects, too, that visiting Brits, et al are wont to comprehend. So it's the same everywhere, actually. To this end, for wider circulation it's best presenting a documentary in lingua franca.
@@FollowerOfClay Incorrect! I said The Semitic name for that city was UR with the Sumerian being URIM (See Tablet of Ur-nammi )Lu-gal Kish Lu-gal Urim. The Word UR in SUMERIAN literally means DOG. An example would be" common use of "ur" on Sumerian royal inscriptions is in the expression "ur-sag", which literally means "top dog", and which is usually translated "warrior" or "hero"." What I did NOT say in the video is that it is possible that the word UR, comes from the Sumerian word URU which means 'town' Some more examples : urbarra 𒌨𒁇𒊏 “wolf” (“outside dog”) uridim 𒌨𒅂 “wild dog, rabid dog” (“wild dog”) urtur 𒌨𒌉 “puppy”, urgir 𒌨𒆪 “watchdog. So please what was exactly your complaint again?
Yeah maybe I am spoiled but this does stand out among comparable content. Would benefit from writing an actual script, editing, and perhaps rehearsal before putting this out there 😬 still interesting content though
@Cat Magic and yet we remove christ from everything all because someone if offended? Do the offended ever think that maybe their being offended offends those who has no issue with christ except when the diety they believe in is removed just because someone becomes offended? Just like for example when Pluto was no longer a planet because all of a sudden someone thought they knew what the definition of a planet was. If I remember right theres 2 planets that's considered to be made entirely of gas but yet are considered as planets instead of gas giants.
@@robertwilliams450 If you take the Gospels of Matthew and Luke seriously, you must realize that Jesus Christ could not have been born in "1 A D." The calendar system of years "Before Christ" and "Anno Domini" ("In the Year of Our Lord") were invented by a Roman Church monk centuries *after* the Gospels were written. The trouble is that his estimate of "1 A.D." as the supposed birth year for Jesus Christ is incompatible with the nativity stories in both Matthew and Luke Gospels. Matthew doesn't give any precise birth year, but from the story, the birth had to be some time before the death of King Herod I in 4 B.C. -- over 4 years earlier than "1 A.D". Luke claims that Jesus was born the year of the census of Quirinus, which was "4 A.D." Thus "B.C." and "A.D." are inaccurate, and B.C.E. and "C.E." are rightly preferred even by many Christians over "B.C." and "A.D.". Using those phrases is NOT what you seem to suspect, i.e. trying to get "Christ" out of religious calendars.
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@@Naturalook says a great deal when studying it. I think those who say there were "white" are fooling themelves" but those who say they were black" are the same types of fools that that have a black eccentric view of the universe and promote hatred" The more likely outcome is that they looked much like Iraqi's do today and since I have physcially met and spoken with modern -day Marsh Arabs, so with respect I beleive they looked more like the Iraqis are today.
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Why does nobody mention the ermine furs the kings wore?
@@garytucker8696 as that wasnt part of the presentation buddy, if you wish a more overview of Sumerian royalty and governance, ill be happy to look at in in a future presentation. Great idea though :)
Too many ‘howevers’, and not used correctly
When are you going to release the one on Egypt
Why we care? Surely that isn't needed. They are the most fascinating civilization I know. Writing yes but the Sumerians gave us loads of firsts. All of the things civilisations use from banking to beer making to medicine to agriculture. If I could get in a time machine, that's where I'd go. Cheers.
Greetings everyone from the lands of Sumer - Mesopotamia Iraq 🇮🇶
Nice to see you again. Need to speak with you directly at sometime as I plan on visiting in 2022. Need to talk about getting a visa etc . BTW wherein Iraq are you?
tell me Are you went? @@theSFCchannel
The amount of ads for a 16 min video is truly unacceptable. TH-cam is becoming unwatchable
I got premium a while ago. I forgot youtube had adds.
@@paulsilverston5188 Same here, never looked back.
Bro just use AdBlock Browser on mobile or install AdBlock on pc. I no longer use vanilla youtube as it is simply unwatchable
@@alejandrobolanos4655 true, good advice.
@@alejandrobolanos4655 thank you!
Thanks for the free content.
Thanks for showing your support!
Thanks you Nick and Christopher!
Nick, your production makes the words come alive and enhance the wonderful history that Chris brings to this fascinating topic.
Hope your Holidays are great!
Love,
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Many thanks for your compliments. I promise the sound quality will be MUCH better in the next one, (part 2) as ill have a lab mic then
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Thanks so much for your time and help in teaching ppl like myself for free.
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Please adjust volume level of the Music downwards. It wakes up my neighbors. Driving me nuts since a long time.
Thank you for this episode . Keep up your great work,,we appreciate it a lot. - edited for clarity
@Christopher Cressey My excuses, I did not mention I just meant the music sound level. At the beginning and the end of the video. BTW, the narration you do is good, I like your work. Also, thanks for being so active in the comments. - Johan
@Christopher Cressey Nice, have seen some videos on pictographic and iconographic writing. Super interesting, worth several episodes.👍 Good luck with the new mic!
Enjoyed this and looking forward to more from your guest about Sumer. Thanks! ❤️
those drums sounded like the Last of the Mohicans intro and the 1492 intro too.
Interesting if “Gil” meant flower in Sumerian. “Gul” means flower in Persian so I wonder if the word was taken from Sumerian thousands of years ago.
good observation perhaps it was derived from it thousands of years ago
it doesn't
some words came be into one language from another language by some other languages for example from sumerian into akkadian into Aramaic language into middle persian or arabic into dari persian(modern persian or farsi).. for example the world naneh meaning the mother is using in persian and this is a sumerian word and how it gets there??
There may be some link between Sumerians and Dravidians.In Tamil and Telugu Ur means village
@@goulakh555 the same word for mother is used in south iraq meaning grandmother though it's not the first choice and not the most common option, actully few sumerian world are still in use in the iraqi dialect of arabic specially the south, i think each group influenced the next until it arrived to us in modern time.
Nice, concise and relevant. Thanks, many thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you, i promise the sound quality will be better in the next episode: Cheers -Christopher
This video is a nice example of the diference between and "enthusiast" and an academic.
Just read an archaeological post that Elamites developed their system of writing at the same time as Sumerians
True
@Cat Magic Hey there yes I have heard of this, but I am not sure. The precursor to Sumerian writing, was a system of accounting by the Ubaids (who owned what) so as far as writing as in mathematics accounting is concerned the Ubaids of Mesopotamia might just have had it first.
@Cat Magic it is related to early Sumerians
Hey folks for those who were "commenting" on the Sumerian city or UR originally being URIM and the word UR literally means DOG in Sumerian. What follows is a more detailed explanation
: The Semetic name for that city was UR with the Sumerian being URIM (See Tablet of Ur-nammi )Lu-gal Kish Lu-gal Urim. The Word UR in SUMERIAN literally means DOG. An example would be" common use of "ur" on Sumerian royal inscriptions is in the expression "ur-sag", which literally means "top dog", and which is usually translated "warrior" or "hero"." What I did NOT say in the video is that it is possible that the word UR, comes from the Sumerian word URU which means 'town' Some more examples : urbarra 𒌨𒁇𒊏 “wolf” (“outside dog”) uridim 𒌨𒅂 “wild dog, rabid dog” (“wild dog”) urtur 𒌨𒌉 “puppy”, urgir 𒌨𒆪 “watchdog (Notice the 'UR's) So in reference to follower of Clay's "comment" based upon AMPLE evidence, I was correct in saying the UR is Sumerian word for DOG. Thanking you kindly
interesting cause sag means dog in Persian
If you would be so kind as to take this episode down, I officially withdraw my permission to use my voice on this episode. Thank you very much.
HOT DAMN!!!!! This series is gonna be Stellar!!! Thanks for the links/sharing. Totally awesome!!! Do wish the names of what people called themselves and their places were used by us. I want to learn to read cuneiform but still struggling with French Latin and hieroglyphics. Hope someday someone will figure out Minoan.....Saving up for Sumerian Sea Peoples and Hittite Merch.....so awesome!!!
Hello many thanks im Christopher, who voiced and wrote the presentation. I can give you some books to start off with in order to help. First learn Assyrian as the pronunciation and basic grammar rules are ALL the same. Try a Work book of Cuneiform signs by DC Snell (its free from archive.org) but i have the original. Also try Materials for a Sumerian Lexicon by CJ Gadd also on archive.org. A Sumerian reader by Konrad Volks, Sumerian Grammartik in Babylonian theory by S Pohl is another good one. Please keep me apprised of your studies, would love to hear how you are doing. Yours in Sumer: Christopher Cressey
@@theSFCchannel Well I just been sent over the moon with this reply!!! Can't thank you enough! This will be an amazing journey!!! Really fabulous work/content. Will let you know how I'm progressing .....thank you soooooooo much.
@@stephenmichalski2643 here is another fantastic resource, By the way HIGHLY encourage you to use it in order to authenticate and check my work,as you see the pseudo science peoples such as Sitchin will not encourage you to check their work using freely available online tools :( You can count this as your go-to tool that has been made by
Oxford graduates and professors in the subject. Whilst it doesn't pretend to translate into English, it does however monitor if the 'transliterated' word comes up in Sumerian literature. etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/
@@stephenmichalski2643 and etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/edition2/signlist.php
Also if you can read German there is Fundamentals of Sumerian Grammar by Anno Pobel. I will leave it there for now as i do not wish to overload you with information and resources. Feel free to stop by my facebook group anytime.
... correct consistency ...
Alcohol, drugs and sheep 🤗 Got to love the Sumerians
Amen!
Agreed, so putting things together you can wonder at the origins of ALL their pantheon-judging the Hul-Gil they were "smoking" :P but you forgot SEX too, the bit Akitu ceremony involved LOTS of sex for the first 7 days and later 11 days in Babylon: Cheers fella
That explains where they disappeared to --- Montana!
@@elliegotfredson3712 Apologies as you can guess from my presentation i'm from Yorkshire-UK so i dont get the Montana joke :D
@@theSFCchannel I'm from SW USA and a lot of our Snowbirds (winter residents from the cold North) are from Montana. They wear t-shirts with I "heart" sheep on them and have a hundred jokes about Montana ranch hands getting drunk/loaded and having sex with sheep (I dunno, maybe not many females living up there?). I was like, wow, the Sumerians did that too?!
I kind of wish from the very beginning in the school systems we get taught the actual names and pronunciations that these people used, instead of these cookie-cutter names we created for ourselves. For immersion purposes, it makes a huge difference. Also, it links the people that live there today to their ancient civilization. Once we start latinizing, or anglicizing names and pronunciations suddenly we seem to relate to them more than the people who live there today. Which is obviously 100% wrong.
I agree with you. Much of the information we have about this region is relatively recent -
Yeah see what you did there and your right. Seems like things have been told in reverse. I'm starting to understand what words like conqueror really means, man they took a lot from us.
Marko, i'm the gentleman who's voice is on this presentation. MANY thanks for your comment and i totally agree, the grammar and pronunciation of Sumerian is largely GUESS work, based upon the natural development of later civilisations. Take for example a book I have in my collection. "Sumerian Grammartik in Babylonian theory" by S Pohl. Your statement was fantastic and thank you for your contribution towards understanding of the subject matter: Christopher
Handy tip, the name Gilgamesh is incorrect it was originally written as Bilgames^ but pronounced as BEELgamesh
@@theSFCchannel who is Nimrod?
yasssss IFL Sumer, This is exactly the kind of content Im trying to wake up toooo -fetches coffee-
Thank you for commenting your support and for enjoying this!
Thank you and thanks to nick, I promise the sound quality will be better in the next episode ,as i get a new mic sorted
The sky mountain was a comet which is the Taurid Stream now. They probably originated from the valley under the Persian Gulf before the 400' sea level rise.
Merci !
Looks like a very interesting video but the sound is awful unfortunately.
Thanks buddy, that will be fixed in the next video I do, you have my word.
@@theSFCchannel Look forward to it. Merry Christmas buddy 👍
Nice job... but I wonder if you put too much on the Sumerians, and not enough on their predecessors... Pre Ubaid, Natufians show a start on irrigation, and beer making in shallow depressions, as well as complex grain bread, which is harder to make then beer... or so I heard. ??? What do you think? Did the climate change that impacted the Natufians loose these talents? And a second climate change that was less significant at about 8Kyears ago mix the timeline up? Is the Sumerian culture a rebuild, or all-new thing?
Necessity being the mother of invention I say
Would be interesting if you wrote the words they referred to as Idiglat (I got that ) and ... the other river , also the other words you mentioned ..
Love this man’s voice...
@Christopher Cressey please sir, do not change a thing.
If the sphinx has been carbon dated older than originally known then wouldn't Egypt be older
I have a chapter in the linked book, Anointed.
Civilization Sumer in lraq🇮🇶🇮🇶😎😎💪💪
This video should not be called 'The Origins of...'. It promises o talk about origins but then sadly never does
Archeology suggests Sumerians came from the East, somewhere in the Iranian Zagros or plateau. For example, both alcohol and Geometric tokens of pre-writing are both traceable to Iran (the former on the site of Godin Tepe)
Sumerian school life was a hard one?... my great grandfather was a school principal in the 1920's & 1930's, well known virtuoso of the cane (standard teaching implement of the day), sounds like not much changed for 5K years lol
Indeed they had it in my my primary and middle school, but luckily I never got the bad side of it:P Think it was for the reason that I was a Teachers pet in history, though I give you my word that I NEVER polished an apple! :P :P Fantastic comment cheers
Cat starts speaking ancient sumarian.
SAWA: NOT LIKE THAT
Do you write your words down first? And do you listen to what you have said?
Svans and sumerians both worshipped the same sun god.
Around 3:50 You mentioned that they referred to themselves as the black heads, and at the same time you are showing pictures of people colored in black; then your best interpretation is that they looked much like the modern day Iraqis?
That's rather puzzling I should say
Anunaki : ano nug
Enlil : inlil
Anu : anu
Ur : ur
Kibadu: kibad
Diin : diin
Ninhursag : nin horsug
Bel : beel
Ninurta : ninurta
Eridu : irid
Uruk : urug
And more smilar
Marduk means who died once
@Christopher Cressey i think
Their Language is not died
@Christopher Cressey there is a strong conection between their Language and the Languages of the people of hornafrica
Europe 100%
Why does it sound like it was recorded with a badly damaged laptop mic that the speaker was deepthroating
A ‘drawwt’? Do you mean ‘drought’?
lol yes I heard that and what about ee-ray-doo lol
@@harryedwards4080 I speak English REAL English, You speak American
We recreate the misty ancient past in our own image and ignorant preconceptions. River front city cast abounding in multistory buildings, room full of cuneiform scribes, and multitude of middle school aged students is only a modern delusion put onto the simpler early past. Sumer was not riverfront Rome or New York. The literate were rare as particle physicists.
The literate was actually the sons of royalty and high priests, the rich and highly skilled workers. The average Sumerian did not know how to read
Love this comment by the way
Word to the wise. Don’t be referring to women by their lady parts nowadays. You will probably get relieved of your man parts. 🤔
Nice addition. I’ve never heard that detail before.
Thank you for the great humoured comment: Here is something I forgot to add:0) The Sumerian word for Demon is Gala, bit it is also the same word for a woman's private parts :0 So 'demon p*ssy' springs to mind ~d:
And if you're speaking of one woman, don't refer to her as "the twins"!
@Cat Magic You mean he grabbed women by the 'Gala' (sumerian word for Vagina. But please don't mistake it for GALLA (Gallu in Akkadian) as that is a type of Sumerian demon of the netherworld: Hmm "Demon vagina?" ARRRRG get these thoughts from my head please :P
More of the orthodox version of events... if we are to get into the "mind of the people of Sumer" as the narrator entices us to do, then we should know that they never called their overlords "gods" and their writing, agriculture, mathematics and law was "taught" to the Sumerians by them. They themselves wrote that they didn't develop them.
Starting to get int pseudo science sitchin stuff there mate :(
@@theSFCchannel lol, well, just reflecting on what THEY wrote, chief. Who do you think coined the word "pseudo-science", anyway?
If you get your sources from Sitchin you are listening to a man who can't translate the original source correctly due to his lack of an education.
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 Now, forget Sitchin. Forget the alternative-to-“mainstream” theories. Please just read any translation of the Sumerian accounts you are comfortable with, as well as the accounts of ALL ancient civilizations that are translated properly. They ALL say they were GIVEN these things in question. Would this be a coincidence?
Hey there Hermes, I am afraid you have been misled. Sitchen's degree at The London University is not in Ancient Sumerian history, it is actually in ECONOMIC history and that degree doesn't cover anything before 1750 CE. Unlike Sitchin I HIGHLY encourage you to check anything I say and use it with FREELY available online tools such as; The Electronic Corpus of Sumerian literature. So anyway what did Sitchen say, the "SHEM' a Sumerian word meaning Rocket? May kindly remind you that there is no such word as 'SHEM ' in Sumerian its not even Sumerian at all, rather its the much later Hebrew word meaning "Name"
I have looked at all the recorded works of Sumerian literature online and there is not one single word for "Rocket" nor is there a word called "Shem". However let me peruse this avenue further, the actual Sumerian concept or 'word ' if you will for 'name is' is 'MU' .
So please excuse me for sounding a little sarcastic, however this is BASIC Sumerian that one learns in the first 3 months on any University Sumerian language course. So the question that begs to be asked, if Sitchin has gotten the basics incorrect then what else has he gotten wrong?
Lastly I personally asked Sitchin (when he was alive) and the other pseudoscience guy David Icke, why did they LIE about tablet VA 243 and substitute the sun symbol?
In my experience people who follow Sitchin/Icke are generally lazy people who cannot be bothered to employ the use of FREELY available online tools in order to check and authenticate their work. The problem with these types is that the above-mentioned fraudsters put back serious Sumerian studies by decades.
In a direct answer to your question, if course the Sumers called their deities gods, (in fact this again is basic sumerian cuneiform) rather they employed the use of the concept 'DINGIR' which means god/gods/heaven and AN/ANU Himself. This is demonstrated by the asterix. You will find its also an honorific used when a writer is speaking about a deity. Take for example the tablet of Ur-Nammu which in itself is a simply foundation stone for a temple in dedication to Inanna (15) An example of which is found here upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Ur-Nammu_dedication_tablet_for_the_Temple_of_Inanna_in_Uruk_%28horizontal%29.jpg/640px-Ur-Nammu_dedication_tablet_for_the_Temple_of_Inanna_in_Uruk_%28horizontal%29.jpg Please note the first symbol Dingir and the second symbol that of Inanna (15) herself.
I can also demonstrate this concept in a more practical term. I f
"lu-ul dumu-dingir -ra-na an-gim he-en-ku-ga (Transliterated)
May this man the son of his god become holy like the heavens! (Translated)
Another example is the very rare incantation to UTU (10)
Dingir Gal-gal-e-ne di-di ma-ra-ab sug-ge-es
The great gods will present themselves for your judgement
More uses of the word Dingir can be found on 'The Harps that Once......" By T Jakobsen. for example
In all honesty I guess nothing I can say can convince you otherwise, however i feel duty bound to at least point out these things.
Take care
PS: You have given me an idea on a distant future presentation, on why I think Sitchen is a fraud.
Sumerians are indigenous inhabitants of Mesopotamia. But their gods came to Earth from Mars after nuclear war which destroys their civilization. Their gods gave Sumerians knowledge, skills and tools, which made Sumerian civilization unique and so mystic.
No!
Ismayil I thank you for being here, however just with the other post you have been misled, if I may copy and paste what I said to the other gentleman, it is with hopes you will bare that in mind in the future. ................Sitchen's degree at The London University is not in Ancient Sumerian history, it is actually in ECONOMIC history and that degree doesn't cover anything before 1750 CE. Unlike Sitchin I HIGHLY encourage you to check anything I say and use it with FREELY available online tools such as; The Electronic Corpus of Sumerian literature. So anyway what did Sitchen say, the "SHEM' a Sumerian word meaning Rocket? May kindly remind you that there is no such word as 'SHEM ' in Sumerian its not even Sumerian at all, rather its the much later Hebrew word meaning "Name"
I have looked at all the recorded works of Sumerian literature online and there is not one single word for "Rocket" nor is there a word called "Shem". However let me peruse this avenue further, the actual Sumerian concept or 'word ' if you will for 'name is' is 'MU' .
So please excuse me for sounding a little sarcastic, however this is BASIC Sumerian that one learns in the first 3 months on any University Sumerian language course. So the question that begs to be asked, if Sitchin has gotten the basics incorrect then what else has he gotten wrong?
Lastly I personally asked Sitchin (when he was alive) and the other pseudoscience guy David Icke, why did they LIE about tablet VA 243 and substitute the sun symbol?
In my experience people who follow Sitchin/Icke are generally lazy people who cannot be bothered to employ the use of FREELY available online tools in order to check and authenticate their work. The problem with these types is that the above-mentioned fraudsters put back serious Sumerian studies by decades.
In a direct answer to your question, if course the Sumers called their deities gods, (in fact this again is basic sumerian cuneiform) rather they employed the use of the concept 'DINGIR' which means god/gods/heaven and AN/ANU Himself. This is demonstrated by the asterix. You will find its also an honorific used when a writer is speaking about a deity. Take for example the tablet of Ur-Nammu which in itself is a simply foundation stone for a temple in dedication to Inanna (15) An example of which is found here upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Ur-Nammu_dedication_tablet_for_the_Temple_of_Inanna_in_Uruk_%28horizontal%29.jpg/640px-Ur-Nammu_dedication_tablet_for_the_Temple_of_Inanna_in_Uruk_%28horizontal%29.jpg Please note the first symbol Dingir and the second symbol that of Inanna (15) herself.
I can also demonstrate this concept in a more practical term. I f
"lu-ul dumu-dingir -ra-na an-gim he-en-ku-ga (Transliterated)
May this man the son of his god become holy like the heavens! (Translated)
Another example is the very rare incantation to UTU (10)
Dingir Gal-gal-e-ne di-di ma-ra-ab sug-ge-es
The great gods will present themselves for your judgement
More uses of the word Dingir can be found on 'The Harps that Once......" By T Jakobsen. for example
In all honesty I guess nothing I can say can convince you otherwise, however i feel duty bound to at least point out these things.
In a future video I will tell of a story of where i asked David Icke to prove his "all the troubles in the world started with five families in ancient sumer" you know the video after where this fruitcake proclaimed that he was the son of god.
Take care
PS: You have given me an idea on a distant future presentation, on why I think Sitchen is a fraud
@@theSFCchannel Thank you. I am on the article now.
It would be nice if this documentary could be translated into English.
you are obviously an American, right? 1:) I am English-born and raised in England- GREAT Britain and more so than your good self will ever be. It is a pity that you are unable to understand the language from its mother country. Please do attempt to obtain a passport and visit said mother country and you will be surprised on what an education you will receive.
@@theSFCchannel I've had the pleasure of visiting England and the rest of GB on many occasions-- frequently with a valid passport. I like it there because in general the people are charming with understatement, and forthright when necessary. To this end, they've clearly advised me to stay away from places where your particular accent is spoken.
@Christopher Cressey Well first of all, you need to make those caps go away; they're considered an indication of low educational standards in both Norway and Ireland, too.
Speaking a dialect that resembles Beowulf is both uninteresting and hard to understand. But I'm glad that you didn't seem t pick it up on the streets but rather on a Kelto-Viking commune far up north. I visited one near Wordsworth's cottage on the lake, btw. Charming, but incoherent.
We amerikan peeple have weird dialects, too, that visiting Brits, et al are wont to comprehend. So it's the same everywhere, actually. To this end, for wider circulation it's best presenting a documentary in lingua franca.
"Ubaid tribe" oh come ON.
what about the claim that UR is semitic for dog? :)
@@FollowerOfClay Incorrect! I said The Semitic name for that city was UR with the Sumerian being URIM (See Tablet of Ur-nammi )Lu-gal Kish Lu-gal Urim. The Word UR in SUMERIAN literally means DOG. An example would be" common use of "ur" on Sumerian royal inscriptions is in the expression "ur-sag", which literally means "top dog", and which is usually translated "warrior" or "hero"." What I did NOT say in the video is that it is possible that the word UR, comes from the Sumerian word URU which means 'town' Some more examples : urbarra 𒌨𒁇𒊏 “wolf” (“outside dog”) uridim 𒌨𒅂 “wild dog, rabid dog” (“wild dog”) urtur 𒌨𒌉 “puppy”, urgir 𒌨𒆪 “watchdog. So please what was exactly your complaint again?
9:09 juice of pigs to make alcohol...which juice?
Im sorry that you are unable to understand an English accent. I said the juice of DATES
audio is terrible
Sumer - Szkita - Magyars ...
Subar - (Dsemdet-nasr.)
Elam - Harappa ...
Mohenjo-daro. (lndia.)
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Karpathien-basin - pre Sumer !
😊
The Aryans from Sumer The Sumerians.
Narrator... yikes
Yeah maybe I am spoiled but this does stand out among comparable content. Would benefit from writing an actual script, editing, and perhaps rehearsal before putting this out there 😬 still interesting content though
Legendary 🤣🤣
Sorry, this is intresting but you completely lost my attention when you decided to go with bce instead of bc.
tomato tomahto
Easily triggered much?
@@darrelgustafson2507 what do you mean?
@Cat Magic and yet we remove christ from everything all because someone if offended? Do the offended ever think that maybe their being offended offends those who has no issue with christ except when the diety they believe in is removed just because someone becomes offended? Just like for example when Pluto was no longer a planet because all of a sudden someone thought they knew what the definition of a planet was. If I remember right theres 2 planets that's considered to be made entirely of gas but yet are considered as planets instead of gas giants.
@@robertwilliams450 If you take the Gospels of Matthew and Luke seriously, you must realize that Jesus Christ could not have been born in "1 A D." The calendar system of years "Before Christ" and "Anno Domini" ("In the Year of Our Lord") were invented by a Roman Church monk centuries *after* the Gospels were written. The trouble is that his estimate of "1 A.D." as the supposed birth year for Jesus Christ is incompatible with the nativity stories in both Matthew and Luke Gospels. Matthew doesn't give any precise birth year, but from the story, the birth had to be some time before the death of King Herod I in 4 B.C. -- over 4 years earlier than "1 A.D". Luke claims that Jesus was born the year of the census of Quirinus, which was "4 A.D." Thus "B.C." and "A.D." are inaccurate, and B.C.E. and "C.E." are rightly preferred even by many Christians over "B.C." and "A.D.". Using those phrases is NOT what you seem to suspect, i.e. trying to get "Christ" out of religious calendars.
Egypt is more impressive
.... bhula=== batwa
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BAAAAWK.....BWK BWK....
They were black
WE WUZ
Most likely... the current DNA parts that make people white, (Caucasian), is like 5K years old... Maybe Yamnaya culture...
NO the were much the same as Iraqis are today, clue "The Sumerian Nose"
@@theSFCchannel that doesn’t say anything...
@@Naturalook says a great deal when studying it. I think those who say there were "white" are fooling themelves" but those who say they were black" are the same types of fools that that have a black eccentric view of the universe and promote hatred" The more likely outcome is that they looked much like Iraqi's do today and since I have physcially met and spoken with modern -day Marsh Arabs, so with respect I beleive they looked more like the Iraqis are today.
Sumériens black peuple.