They said he represents the middle-child (Huey's like the first-born, and Louie's like the youngest[and Webby to me is like the only-child]), so this could be partly from middle-child syndrome.
This episode is one big fantasy analogy for an abused child getting out of her abusive parent's shadow and moving on with her life. Specifically, this is the final chapter where the parent tries to gaslight the child back into her clutches. You don't need to look hard to see it, given how the domestic abuse angle has been the fundamental core of Lena's and Magica's relationship throughout the series.
I actually never thought of it that way, I knew she was a child and Magica was a Mother/controller but I never thought of Lena being abused by magica. I always thought that she was just a tool/footsoldier of Magica. That's a new way to think of it.
Fun little detail about the ending of the story: the device that Magica uses to invade Lena's dreams is the very same one that the Beagle boys used to invade Scrooge's in the classic Don Rosa story "Dream of a lifetime". Frank Angones has stated that Lena is a character they are going to use in order to convey more mature themed messages, such as escaping abuse and it certainly shows here. The ”I don't need you, you need me" line spoke after she saw how far Magica has fallen after the "Shadow war" was extremely satisfying.
The show does indeed to always seem to be darkest when Lena and Magika is involved, simply becausw of how realistic the abuse is (outside of the magic aspect). That makes sense...I just hope Lena really is fully free from her for good. But time will tell.
I don’t really know too much about the comics but I do think it’s cool how they sprinkle little details in like that and also It’s cool how they show she can work with technology and magic kinda like Doctor Doom from Marvel comics. The only thing I’m disappointed about is that they haven’t introduced Magica’s brother yet but they might do that in season 3! Plus there gonna introduce more Mickey Mouse characters into the Duck Tales extended universe because on the trailer they showed Goofy and hinted Mickey in the grand finale of season 2 and on the internet they said Chip and Dal will show up and I’m really excited!
The fact that Lena is already afraid of being seen as a monster whether metaphorically or literally or both, it was absolutely heartbreaking for her to hear Webby call her that.
This might be my second favorite episode of Season 2 behind "The Duck Knight Returns!". It's visually stunning and rife with subtext. *Webby's dream:* - Desire to be an adventurer like her Uncle Scrooge and be with her friends. *Dewey's Dream:* - Reflection of Dewey's ego and desire to be the center of attention; His "love interest" has both a male/female voice, which is open to interpretation. Lastly, there's the Freudian thing with mom. *Louie's Dream:* - His ideal life of luxury and adoration without having to work. *Huey's Dream:* - Taps into Huey's insecurity about his height and desire to be bigger since he's the oldest of the triplets. *Violet's Dream:* - Imagines a library to obtain more knowledge free of distractions. *Lena's Dream:* - Not only does it tap into the idea that she's worried about being more like Magica than her friends, but I'd also argue that Lena turning into Magica implies that subconsciously, she doesn't feel like she deserves happiness or to have friends. The whole episode works as like a metaphor for victims of emotional abuse who feel like they brought their misfortunes on themselves. Through Webby and the other kids, Lena comes to realize that she needs the people in her life to be her best self.
I love's Dewey's moon of tears cradling him, if Della saw that, she'd automatically give him a hug :) That basically nailed the point that Dewey is probably the closest to their mother. The love interest thing...let's all agree that he's on the spectrum and let anything else be for a future show. Disney may not want to explore it and fans will have a long time to speculate with fanfiction stories galore. I am a Debbigail fan myself due to there just aren't any other female or male characters that make any good sense for now.
"I'd also argue that Lena turning into Magica implies that subconsciously, she doesn't feel like she deserves happiness or to have friends." Aaaaaand I'm sad now.
Oh btw Lena is staying with Violet’s family. Turns out it was going to be mentioned in the episode but it had to be cut. Um it was mentioned on tumblr I think
I wonder if Lena is who Magica was before she became the evil duck we know her as. Maybe something traumatic happened to her and Lena is all that’s left of her original personality. That would be interesting because it would explain that since Magica can’t accept her true self she is just a powerless, pathetic crazy person.
I like the idea that Lena being made up from all of the aspects of Magica that Magica tries to ignore, Put simply, I think when Lena was created she was a mindless being until Magica’s suppressed aspects of herself like her humanity (or duckity) filled up this empty void and became Lena.
Lena and Magica strike me as very different people. In the context of the show: Magica is a smarty, Lena is a sharpie. But that could just be their backgrounds. Magica getting her magic from research while Lena's youth was spent scheming for her "aunt".
Glad to see I'm not the only one who's been thinking that. Lena is a shadow. In theory she should be an exact copy of Magica. Her personality at least. There are similar traits between the two but its not an exact copy. Lena cares. She has guilt and doesn't crave power and vengeance. She saves people and doesn't want to see others get hurt. How does that work if she came from Magica who has shown no such love or mercy? I'm looking for answers on the De-Spell McDuck ancient family feud. How, why and when did it start? That mirror scene where Webby is dressed like Scrooge trying to help Magica/Lena could be a representation of the history of Scrooge and Magica. Scrooge wanting peace but the Magica in the mirror is a representation of the De-Spell McDuck feud holding Magica back from accepting it. Magic corrupts. It turns people mad. Also those who have experienced loss and great pain enhances that madness and turns someone cold and hateful. Something must've happened. We know why all of Scrooges other villians hate him. Usually by greed, jealousy, a need to be superior ect. But we don't know why Magica hates him. I mean she REALLY HATES HIM. I believe Lena is the proof Magica had good inside her. Question is what happened to it?
I disagree that this puts a cap on the what Lena is story. Yes, she's a shadow, but there's something unique about her that never comes up - she's a shadow without a caster. Magica essentially obliterated her, basically erasing that part of her shadow, so she latched on to Webby. Does she still have that shadow-y connection with Webby? What if all that crap Magica was going on about - magically linked, blah blah blah - had some truth behind it? It'd be an interesting storyline to go with. Either way, her story is definitely far from over, and I can't wait to see what they end up doing with her.
It still can be, once you run out of effs! I was the terror of my school bus. Mwahahahahahaha. They had it coming. And who *doesn't* like Phantom? Heathens.
Something I wanted to note on Violet's episode which I really liked, is that Lena, Webby and Violet form yet another trio, that might be a jab at April, May and June (characters from the comics. The triplet nieces of Daisy Duck, who are basically genderbent Houie, Dewey and Lewey)
So season one's central focus was on Dewey and how he learned he could stand out even as a middle child. Season two was about Llewelyn and how he learned the meaning of effort, does this mean season three will be about Huey learning he can be dependent on his family and doesn't have to always go it alone?
John Even if Season 3 is the last, it would be a good opportunity to learn what happened to Webby’s Parents, but if it’s not then a season focussed on Webby could be possible. But I agree with what many say Season 3 might be about in regards to Huey.
@@LytzyBitzySpider I want it because Danny Pudi is my favorite actor in the cast and seeing him be so different from Ahbed Nadir in Community has been a real treat. More of Huey would be cool, cool cool cool
@@michaelbryant3640 omg... that would be sweet. Especially considering how she almost turned over a new leaf for DW in the original series. And Lena becoming the sorceror surpreme in the duckverse sounds amazing. So many possibilities in this show.
Noodly Huey was great. I think the last half of S2 has been the best so far. Everyone’s established and we can start concentrating on more character development. I’ve even gotten to be able to remember which triplet is which!
I'm thoroughly confused as to why Dewy was so digusted by Tall Huey, though. He was reacting to it as if it was something truly disgusting and depraved when it was just kind of weird?
@@HobGungan imagine if you saw someone who had a normal sided body, but legs 4 times longer than they should be, making them almost like a human spider on two legs. Almost like they're on stilts, but the knees are in the right place. And you can see their legs all of the time because they just wear shorts!
My Favorite lines/things in this episode: You're irritability! You know who my best friend is? Me! SLEEP! Dewey:*SHOOKETH* Who knows what that's about? I have a few theories Also, Phooey duck finally has a design and i couldnt be happier
He was also hinted at in Whatever Happened to Donald Duck, when Webby and Dewy try to invent a mystery for themselves, and theres a mustard stain on the family photo, and they say they have a secret brother lol
The entire "Dewey High" segment might be the funniest thing this show has ever animated. Amazing stuff, lol. So much to unpack! The whole ep is phenomenal, and their strongest after the Darkwing one. Great analysis 👍
The series addressed she was a Shadow in the Shadow War 2 parter. Magica Despell mocks Webby for thinking of her Shadow as a real person and for giving her Shadow a friendship bracelet. It was also in the Poem telling her origin story. It was a fun episode but I was pretty disappointed with the depiction of Hueys dream. Implying a smart person like Huey wouldn't be imaginative to me just sounds like they were too lazy to write something deep for him just yet. Nothing connected to Jr Woodchucks or his special connection with Gyro or his love of seeking out the truth. I'm really hoping for a more Huey focused 3rd season. Season 1 Dewy took most of the multi episode narrative plot as he searched for answers about their mom. This season it's all been about Lewy and his desire to become a millionaire like his Uncle. Maybe a series where the antagonist are the secret organization that's been running Scroodges business this whole time will be a perfect multi part plot to bring the best out of Huey.
I think for Huey in this episode, perhaps he was just too focused on the normal definition of imagination that everyone else was so lax in, so he panicked and went for what he could scramble together. He is creative, just in a more inventive way. Maybe Huey will get s3:)
@@Snow-vi3ik Heuy has gotten a little more attention in season 3 so far but I'm still feeling a little let down with it so far in that respect. Dewy and Luie still have had the most interesting episodes focused on them, and Heuy doesn't appear to have any ongoing arc during the hunt for other lost treasures. Granted weve had only one of those so far but still...
Man, I love it when you go into DuckTales/Duck comics lore, your bit about Killmotor Hill was incredibly informative! Also, I have to look through this episode again, to see if Bill Cipher can be spotted anywhere... He's made cameos in DuckTales before this, so I wouldn't doubt if there's at leas one subtle reference to him.
I absolutely loved this episode, definitely one of the best ones this show has put out. Any episode with Lena in it has so far been one of my favorite episodes. She's such a great character and I always like to see more of her.
With Lena, I can't help thinking of her as the Good Ending version of Annie from the DCAU. Annie was a creation of Clayface that gained sentience, turned amnesiac and had the start of a cute relationship with the young Robin. She tried to fight off Clayface to save Robin and got absorbed back into him, never to exist again. I'm glad Lena's story continued past that point.
Tall Huey was my favorite! Dewey's dream was so much fun and Louie's dream, while short, had me cracking up (and they had to go through the kitty litter!). Violet's dream was nice and calm, liked it. I feel like Huey's dream really did show the most, though. He admitted he wasn't good at imagination and it was clear he wanted to be seen as the oldest and be able to help. Dewey's reaction was hilarious. Loved you review, thanks!
Love watching ur vids on Ducktales. Might be cool to do some character study videos during the wait such as a focus on Glomgold comic v series or a dive on Donald etcetc. Can’t wait for the next episodes
LOVE your Ducktales stuff! Concerning the location of the mansion, I recall back in the 90's there was s series of 9 map peices included in different Disney comics that displayed Duckburg. Not sure if its canon or not but it might give a better layout of where the mansion was supposed to be in the older versions of Duckburg. Might be worth checking out. Keep up the great work!
When I saw the trailers for the new episodes I figured out there would be a dream episode. One thing I also noticed is in the trailer any time Lena was there she wasn't smiling. At first i thought it was just because she didn't want her friends to get hurt on whatever adventure they were on
Dewey: I'm too threatened by the concept of a romantic interest for it to take shape in my dreams Rational part of my brain: he's barely a teenager, this makes sense Overwhelming majority of my brain: aro Dewey aro Dewey aro Dewey aro Dewey-
Lena was a shadow but she found the will to break away and be good and she has magic? I think that makes her a persona or whatever teddy was in persona 4.
9:36-10:47 ...It's been theorized that since Season 1 was mostly about Dewey and Season 2 was mostly about Louie, Season 3 might be mostly about Huey. What you said about his desires & character might be exactly what Season 3 will revolve around.
You forgot the little twist at the end that saw Magica us advance tech to make Lena's nightmares happen, which saw as an homage Arthur C. Clark's Third Law "Any Sufficiently Advanced Technology is Virtual Indistinguishable from Magic"
This season sure has a lot of outstanding episodes, and this one is no exception. I always love it when a movie or show, especially in animation, explores characters' dreams, since they always provide a massive pool of creativity. Speaking of which, my favorite dream moments were with Louie as a lazy cat, the whole montage with the various locations and the appearances of Phooey and whale Launchpad, and Lena's nightmare. The latter did an amazing job with the dark color palette, especially with the trees that looked like something out of "Snow White" or "Legend of Sleepy Hollow." Also, my favorite joke has to be with the unicorn vanishing in a split second: 'Wait, if there's no one around to imagine me, don't I---'
@LoveBerry just that? Not even how he deals with wanting to stand out or he wishes he could make a name for himeself or how he delt with so much drama trying figure out who his mom was and what happened? _Just Della duck?????_
@LoveBerry Della was stuck on the moon, and Dewy was the one most obsessed with finding out what happened to his mom, mostly because he didnt give Huey and Louie a chance to do the same. If anything, its guilt. Hes also the mamas boy of the group.
Shes my ride or die. Lena got me into this amazing show and I'm not leaving until I see her story through. This was a great episode. Lena now has a real family keeping her safe now. And Magica is going to have to go through them to get to her
It just occurred to me all these months later: I bet the reason Scrooge's money bin is out on the bay all by itself is because of the lawsuits Scrooge would've gotten from his old "neighbors" when the bin got set upon by villains and there was collateral damage. Stuff like doomsday devices rolling down the hill like buzzsaws and ripping the town in half, or localized weather phenomenons wreaking havoc on the general vicinity of the bin.
This might be in my top three episodes of season 2. Problem is, they're all tied. The other two are Timephoon and The 87 Cent Solution. Anyway, I've been thinking a bit and I think the next season might have a bit of extra focus on Huey. I'm sure others have figured this out too, if it wasn't directly stated. While they all have ample screen time in each season, the first one seemed to focus on Dewey the most, while the second one did the same for Louie.
It just dawned on me. Magica having a prototype dream machine. I'm wondering if that's a reference to that old Scrooge comic story where they have to use Gyro's invention to help Scrooge find an old memory through entering his dreamscape. The one you'd find in some article saying that the movie Inception ripped that comic off, I think it was back when Cracked's website was a thing. I really liked Magica's depressingly desperate reveal at the end, especially the subtle note that she needed technology to accomplish what she easily could have done if her powers weren't deteriorated. Though part of me can't help but think "OCH! I left me gun on the bus," from the Simpsons Nightmare on Elm Street parody.
You know, I never noticed before, but there's another Disney Afternoon callback in this episode. When Magica is climbing up the ledge after Lena, it directly mirrors the way Brooklyn climbs the side of the building in the opening credits of Gargoyles.
I loved that for the kids looked like their idealized versions of themselves in Leena’s dream (see 12:50 on). It’s like how she sees them how they want to see themselves.
Who is Lena? Short answer: She's the Disney Descendant of Magica De Spell. Remember Disney's Descendants? The story of 4 kids descended from classic Disney villains that turn out to be good in the end? That can't be just a coincidence.
15:07 Duality? Hmm, I know they've already introduced Negaduck as an actor, but they seem to be introducing the other villains from an alternate universe. Could there be two Negaducks, like in the original Darkwing cartoon?
I feel like people are dismissing Dewey's dream too much. It's not *just* ego, it's the angst of the middle child. There's a subtle difference between being an attention whore and just wanting to be seen as an individual. His first character arc was literally about being "the other one", this is something that really really bugs him. Hewey is neurotic and smart, Louis is lazy and a troublemaker, but Dewey's just kinda... there. And he knows it. It's hard enough to not get mixed up with your siblings on main, but when you're triplets it's so much worse, and that takes a toll on you. He doesn't hate his brothers, but he does seem to consistently wish that they were his friends or his cousins instead. So all his dreams are ambitious, because it would give him a Name(TM). So finally someone will look at the triplets together and see him first. Oh look, it's Dewey and his brothers. Oh look, it's Dewey. Out of the brothers he's the most class clown (Louis is the "cool bad kid" which is a slightly different role even though they're both funny, but Louis is amusing himself first and foremost, Dewey needs to entertain *you*), so it makes sense he'd bury legitimate angst under a veil of humour to hide it. Oh that Dewey, he's so funny, look at him doing Saved By The Bell in his head, literally pay no attention to the sobbing invisible thing in the corner. Like the show even lampshaded what it was doing, but people are falling for it.
Magica combined her Amulet with Poe’s to make her Staff. Their power seems complimentary, with both Poe and Magica knowing spells the other doesn’t. Perhaps Lena was created from Poe’s magic, making Lena _his_ daughter and therefore Magica’s Niece? The most likely answer is there’s no deeper meaning. Disney often uses the “evil aunt/uncle” trope. Looks at Ursula, Scar, etc. Lena is basically Magica’s daughter, but I think the idea of being a mother would horrify her. So “aunt” was a more comfortable word.
The episode title is of course a reference to Nightmare on Elm Street, in fact many aspects of this episode take plot points from various moments across the 8 films. (I am not counting FVJ)
By the way, remember when Scrooge told Lena that she would have a place in his family back during the fight with magica. Has Lena moved in to the mansion or is still she living in that hovel under the stadium?
When DuckTales does a better creepy mascot bit than a Silent Hill movie. I noticed the credits for the episode don't say who voiced Dewey's love interest, nor do they have an 'additional voices' list. imdb doesn't seem to have that information, either. what an odd and probably not at all important oversight...
The last Lena episode (Friendship Hates Magic) introduced the concept of Tulpas, but it didn't quite get them right. In Tibetan mythology a Tulpa is best described as 'a manifested thoughtform'... a concept that a person treats as being so real that it actually takes on a life of its own within that person, and even within the minds of multiple people. The classic example is the imaginary friend. That's what Lena really is. A tulpa invested in Magica's shadow, and manifested into physical form by magic. She's Magica's niece because Magica couldn't conceive of herself as being her mother; she didn't want someone she'd be required to nurture, she wanted someone she could be in charge of and control... but a lot of the other elements of her identity are expressly things that Magica imagined her with; intelligence and education appropriate to her age, an independent streak and desire for freedom that mirrored Magica's own (as Lena came into existence just as Magica was imprisoned), and a preference for a dark aesthetic that reflects the classical meaning of the word 'occult' (literally 'hidden'). One could even say that Lena is Magica's Eidolon; a manfestation of who Magica could've and even should've been, her best possible self, now externalized and rejected to make Magica genuinely irredeemable. Lena is who Magica would be if she were redeemed.
Well the shadows in the shadow realm are the parts of you that you don’t like right? Lena is Magica’s shadow the parts of her that she put away and tried to manipulate to her own ends. She (Lena) caring, kind, loyal, and supportive. All attributes that Magica would view as weak. And not worth pursuing. And Lena being afraid of those negative parts of her from her aunt makes sense because they are two sides of the same coin in a away. It just depends on how you grow and make choices with the power, friends, and family that you are given and or choose.
The episode plot of Magica making fears come true does remind me of an episode of the original series called Nothing to Fear, only dine through a storm cloud around McDuck Manor instead of in the dream world.
This episode reminded me of David Lynch. Are we sure he didn't secretly wrote the screen play or directed or sneaked into the Disney animator offices and edited this episode?
The Glomgold episode with his original identity reminded me way more of David Lynch, especially the "dream" sequence. Technically, Glomgold has three identies in that one, each focused on different time periods, much like Cooper had in Twin Peaks The Return. You got the original sincere Duke Baloney, and then you have the corrupted Glomgold identity, and then you have the Glomgold who has lost his memories, but is now an alternate Duke Baloney, one who never grew a hatred for Scrooge. The past, present, and future are all explored in that episode, a major theme of David Lynch's works, even outside of Twin Peaks. But tulpas are also referenced. But thats not something Lynch invented himself, just took the idea of.
This was a fun episode, Louie had the best segment/dream it was just too enjoyable to watch. The rest of the dreams were good, but more time on Hueys could have been done. Also I think a bit of lay work was done that could hint that Huey and Violet could be a couple.
The episode reminded me a bit of another disney series: Gravity falls, the episode Dreamscaperers. They are both very weird, but really creative at the same time
Fun fact that i really like is that dewey's romantic interest has both a male and female voice, meaning that there's a possible non-heterosexual MAIN character in the future of ducktales!! :D that makes me so happy
Killmoter Hill was named after Scrooge, when he was just arrived to Duckburg, tried to climb it with a car and broke it, cause he didn't pay for a brake.
Dewey: "I think it's supposed to be my romantic interest. But I'm too threatened by that concept, so it never takes shape."
I AM DECEASED
My favorite joke was when the unicorn questions his existence and disappears. I laughed so hard.
If this would've turned to webby i would die
I feel this way about romantic
Huey's legs made me laugh so hard
Can we take a minute to note how ot had both female AND male voices?
"I'm like cradled by a moon made of my own tears? What's that about?"
"... I have some theories."
It definitely is connected with Della and probably separation anxiety.
@@time391 I agree.
@@time391 I mean , Dewie **was** riding the spear of Selene if the montage
They said he represents the middle-child (Huey's like the first-born, and Louie's like the youngest[and Webby to me is like the only-child]), so this could be partly from middle-child syndrome.
@@chrisrj9871 nah, hes the mammas boy. Hes the only one who had a solo adventure with her as well. Theyre pretty alike.
This episode is one big fantasy analogy for an abused child getting out of her abusive parent's shadow and moving on with her life. Specifically, this is the final chapter where the parent tries to gaslight the child back into her clutches. You don't need to look hard to see it, given how the domestic abuse angle has been the fundamental core of Lena's and Magica's relationship throughout the series.
Then the ending where Magica is not as threatening as Lena assumed... lol
I actually never thought of it that way, I knew she was a child and Magica was a Mother/controller but I never thought of Lena being abused by magica. I always thought that she was just a tool/footsoldier of Magica. That's a new way to think of it.
Fun little detail about the ending of the story: the device that Magica uses to invade Lena's dreams is the very same one that the Beagle boys used to invade Scrooge's in the classic Don Rosa story "Dream of a lifetime".
Frank Angones has stated that Lena is a character they are going to use in order to convey more mature themed messages, such as escaping abuse and it certainly shows here. The ”I don't need you, you need me" line spoke after she saw how far Magica has fallen after the "Shadow war" was extremely satisfying.
I love the "Dream of a Lifetime" story. Love how it brought a completion of Scrooge's "romance" with Goldie, although it's just a dream.
The show does indeed to always seem to be darkest when Lena and Magika is involved, simply becausw of how realistic the abuse is (outside of the magic aspect). That makes sense...I just hope Lena really is fully free from her for good.
But time will tell.
I don’t really know too much about the comics but I do think it’s cool how they sprinkle little details in like that and also It’s cool how they show she can work with technology and magic kinda like Doctor Doom from Marvel comics. The only thing I’m disappointed about is that they haven’t introduced Magica’s brother yet but they might do that in season 3! Plus there gonna introduce more Mickey Mouse characters into the Duck Tales extended universe because on the trailer they showed Goofy and hinted Mickey in the grand finale of season 2 and on the internet they said Chip and Dal will show up and I’m really excited!
The fact that Lena is already afraid of being seen as a monster whether metaphorically or literally or both, it was absolutely heartbreaking for her to hear Webby call her that.
So much so that she already had a nightmare about it...
This might be my second favorite episode of Season 2 behind "The Duck Knight Returns!". It's visually stunning and rife with subtext.
*Webby's dream:*
- Desire to be an adventurer like her Uncle Scrooge and be with her friends.
*Dewey's Dream:*
- Reflection of Dewey's ego and desire to be the center of attention; His "love interest" has both a male/female voice, which is open to interpretation. Lastly, there's the Freudian thing with mom.
*Louie's Dream:*
- His ideal life of luxury and adoration without having to work.
*Huey's Dream:*
- Taps into Huey's insecurity about his height and desire to be bigger since he's the oldest of the triplets.
*Violet's Dream:*
- Imagines a library to obtain more knowledge free of distractions.
*Lena's Dream:*
- Not only does it tap into the idea that she's worried about being more like Magica than her friends, but I'd also argue that Lena turning into Magica implies that subconsciously, she doesn't feel like she deserves happiness or to have friends.
The whole episode works as like a metaphor for victims of emotional abuse who feel like they brought their misfortunes on themselves. Through Webby and the other kids, Lena comes to realize that she needs the people in her life to be her best self.
I love how well thought out each sequence. Even the montage.
I agree with everything you said except one pedantic thing. There is no metaphor; Lena is literally a victim of emotional abuse by Magica
I love's Dewey's moon of tears cradling him, if Della saw that, she'd automatically give him a hug :) That basically nailed the point that Dewey is probably the closest to their mother.
The love interest thing...let's all agree that he's on the spectrum and let anything else be for a future show. Disney may not want to explore it and fans will have a long time to speculate with fanfiction stories galore. I am a Debbigail fan myself due to there just aren't any other female or male characters that make any good sense for now.
"I'd also argue that Lena turning into Magica implies that subconsciously, she doesn't feel like she deserves happiness or to have friends."
Aaaaaand I'm sad now.
What about Phooey?
Oh btw Lena is staying with Violet’s family. Turns out it was going to be mentioned in the episode but it had to be cut. Um it was mentioned on tumblr I think
That's sweet that their letting her stay with them.^^
Yep Violet and her two dads
@@thescauldron8436 Wait, really? Cause, that would be cool.^^
@@crystalgemgirl731 yep Frank said it
@@thescauldron8436 Hope we get to see them.^^
I need a Louie cat plushie and a Fooey toy.
Phooey*
I want to see Donald's dream where he speaks perfectly, like the old Disney cartoon where he becomes a singer.
Magica in The Shadow War!:
You are not my Family, You're Nothing!
A nightmare on Killmotor Hill:
We're Family, You need Me!
Perla that kind of show how she was still using Lena to get her power back because she actually think Lena as Nothing but try to trick her
I wonder if Lena is who Magica was before she became the evil duck we know her as. Maybe something traumatic happened to her and Lena is all that’s left of her original personality. That would be interesting because it would explain that since Magica can’t accept her true self she is just a powerless, pathetic crazy person.
Or she was good then got powers and the powers drove her crazy, ala Ice King.
I like the idea that Lena being made up from all of the aspects of Magica that Magica tries to ignore,
Put simply, I think when Lena was created she was a mindless being until Magica’s suppressed aspects of herself like her humanity (or duckity) filled up this empty void and became Lena.
Lena and Magica strike me as very different people.
In the context of the show: Magica is a smarty, Lena is a sharpie.
But that could just be their backgrounds. Magica getting her magic from research while Lena's youth was spent scheming for her "aunt".
Glad to see I'm not the only one who's been thinking that. Lena is a shadow. In theory she should be an exact copy of Magica. Her personality at least. There are similar traits between the two but its not an exact copy. Lena cares. She has guilt and doesn't crave power and vengeance. She saves people and doesn't want to see others get hurt. How does that work if she came from Magica who has shown no such love or mercy?
I'm looking for answers on the De-Spell McDuck ancient family feud. How, why and when did it start? That mirror scene where Webby is dressed like Scrooge trying to help Magica/Lena could be a representation of the history of Scrooge and Magica. Scrooge wanting peace but the Magica in the mirror is a representation of the De-Spell McDuck feud holding Magica back from accepting it.
Magic corrupts. It turns people mad. Also those who have experienced loss and great pain enhances that madness and turns someone cold and hateful. Something must've happened. We know why all of Scrooges other villians hate him. Usually by greed, jealousy, a need to be superior ect. But we don't know why Magica hates him. I mean she REALLY HATES HIM. I believe Lena is the proof Magica had good inside her. Question is what happened to it?
@@Nite-Rise that is making some big assumptions about an under explained magical system.
“I’M NOT GOOD AT IMAGINATION STUFF... OKAY!”
I disagree that this puts a cap on the what Lena is story. Yes, she's a shadow, but there's something unique about her that never comes up - she's a shadow without a caster. Magica essentially obliterated her, basically erasing that part of her shadow, so she latched on to Webby. Does she still have that shadow-y connection with Webby? What if all that crap Magica was going on about - magically linked, blah blah blah - had some truth behind it? It'd be an interesting storyline to go with. Either way, her story is definitely far from over, and I can't wait to see what they end up doing with her.
Interesting point
I too once thought High school would be a musical.... boy was I wrong!
To me, high school was hell. If you'll parden my prasing.
It still can be, once you run out of effs!
I was the terror of my school bus. Mwahahahahahaha. They had it coming.
And who *doesn't* like Phantom? Heathens.
@@jessielefey I always got bullied. I just kept to myself in hopes of just surviving.
Just join the drama club. Then high school is a musical.
You can join the drama team and put on a musical IN high school!
I also kind of like the way the unicorn went out.
Yeah, it was really fu
Omg I laughed so hard at it questioning itself and just popping out of existence.
Something I wanted to note on Violet's episode which I really liked, is that Lena, Webby and Violet form yet another trio, that might be a jab at April, May and June (characters from the comics. The triplet nieces of Daisy Duck, who are basically genderbent Houie, Dewey and Lewey)
cramer floro Except that Violet’s not a Duck like Webby and Lena, but I still see what you mean about the sort of trio they’ve become.
Hey you didn't talk about hobo Magica.
I know, I was waiting for at least a brief mention of that scene. 😂😂😂
he's weirdly been taking a spoiler free angle lately?
Tall Huey is the most nightmare fuel out if the episode.
Scp breach...ugh...elongated limbs are creepy
I LOVED how Dewey reacted to everything!
"Yaaah! Why, Huey, why? Why, Huey, WHYYYY?"
2 words Dewey Mascot
I just noticed that only when Lena sits down she is their height XD
What's weird is that magical had a niece in the comics her name was minima de spell and was actually nice like her parents.
So season one's central focus was on Dewey and how he learned he could stand out even as a middle child. Season two was about Llewelyn and how he learned the meaning of effort, does this mean season three will be about Huey learning he can be dependent on his family and doesn't have to always go it alone?
John Even if Season 3 is the last, it would be a good opportunity to learn what happened to Webby’s Parents, but if it’s not then a season focussed on Webby could be possible. But I agree with what many say Season 3 might be about in regards to Huey.
Huey would be most likely to be the main attention in S3
@@LytzyBitzySpider I want it because Danny Pudi is my favorite actor in the cast and seeing him be so different from Ahbed Nadir in Community has been a real treat. More of Huey would be cool, cool cool cool
i like how you used dewey and huey's nicknames but just used full "llewelyn" there xD
I'm guessing Lena will grow up to be a heroic Sorceress Supreme.
Watch out, doctor strange. There's a new sorceress supreme in the house. And she's made of shadows.
Lena for the win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lena, Darwing duck, Gizmo duck and Storkules for the reboot justice ducks
Anyone else hoping they introduce Morganna as a less evil mentor/parent figure for Lena? Sort of a parallel to Darkwing/Drake adopting Gosalyn.
@@michaelbryant3640 omg... that would be sweet. Especially considering how she almost turned over a new leaf for DW in the original series.
And Lena becoming the sorceror surpreme in the duckverse sounds amazing.
So many possibilities in this show.
Noodly Huey was great. I think the last half of S2 has been the best so far. Everyone’s established and we can start concentrating on more character development. I’ve even gotten to be able to remember which triplet is which!
I'm thoroughly confused as to why Dewy was so digusted by Tall Huey, though. He was reacting to it as if it was something truly disgusting and depraved when it was just kind of weird?
A reference to weird body horror stuff the show crew saw once? That's all I got.....
Yeah I think it was just body horror.
@@TheSaltySeaman Not creepy like in "The Thing", mainly the weird kind.
@@HobGungan imagine if you saw someone who had a normal sided body, but legs 4 times longer than they should be, making them almost like a human spider on two legs. Almost like they're on stilts, but the knees are in the right place. And you can see their legs all of the time because they just wear shorts!
My Favorite lines/things in this episode:
You're irritability!
You know who my best friend is? Me! SLEEP! Dewey:*SHOOKETH*
Who knows what that's about? I have a few theories
Also, Phooey duck finally has a design and i couldnt be happier
He was also hinted at in Whatever Happened to Donald Duck, when Webby and Dewy try to invent a mystery for themselves, and theres a mustard stain on the family photo, and they say they have a secret brother lol
I'm just pleased Magica finally returned...
The entire "Dewey High" segment might be the funniest thing this show has ever animated. Amazing stuff, lol. So much to unpack! The whole ep is phenomenal, and their strongest after the Darkwing one.
Great analysis 👍
Speaking of Foey, someone pointed out that Dewey imagined him looking a lot like Donald did as a kid when Dewey went back in time
I wonder if we'll see Webby learning about using magic from Lena next season.
The series addressed she was a Shadow in the Shadow War 2 parter. Magica Despell mocks Webby for thinking of her Shadow as a real person and for giving her Shadow a friendship bracelet. It was also in the Poem telling her origin story.
It was a fun episode but I was pretty disappointed with the depiction of Hueys dream. Implying a smart person like Huey wouldn't be imaginative to me just sounds like they were too lazy to write something deep for him just yet. Nothing connected to Jr Woodchucks or his special connection with Gyro or his love of seeking out the truth.
I'm really hoping for a more Huey focused 3rd season. Season 1 Dewy took most of the multi episode narrative plot as he searched for answers about their mom. This season it's all been about Lewy and his desire to become a millionaire like his Uncle. Maybe a series where the antagonist are the secret organization that's been running Scroodges business this whole time will be a perfect multi part plot to bring the best out of Huey.
Like F.O.U.L
I think for Huey in this episode, perhaps he was just too focused on the normal definition of imagination that everyone else was so lax in, so he panicked and went for what he could scramble together. He is creative, just in a more inventive way. Maybe Huey will get s3:)
@@Snow-vi3ik Heuy has gotten a little more attention in season 3 so far but I'm still feeling a little let down with it so far in that respect. Dewy and Luie still have had the most interesting episodes focused on them, and Heuy doesn't appear to have any ongoing arc during the hunt for other lost treasures. Granted weve had only one of those so far but still...
Dewey’s reaction to “Tall Huey” was the funniest part of the episode
WHYYYYY
Man, I love it when you go into DuckTales/Duck comics lore, your bit about Killmotor Hill was incredibly informative!
Also, I have to look through this episode again, to see if Bill Cipher can be spotted anywhere... He's made cameos in DuckTales before this, so I wouldn't doubt if there's at leas one subtle reference to him.
Bill Cypher twists the truth, much like Magika does. But thats more a shared trope than a reference.
I loved this bit so much
Louie: “y’know whose my best friend?”
Dewey: “..me..”
Louie: “sleep.”
Dewey: ÒOÓ
I absolutely loved this episode, definitely one of the best ones this show has put out. Any episode with Lena in it has so far been one of my favorite episodes. She's such a great character and I always like to see more of her.
With Lena, I can't help thinking of her as the Good Ending version of Annie from the DCAU. Annie was a creation of Clayface that gained sentience, turned amnesiac and had the start of a cute relationship with the young Robin. She tried to fight off Clayface to save Robin and got absorbed back into him, never to exist again.
I'm glad Lena's story continued past that point.
Oh god...every damn time I think Ive supressed that, someone or something reminds me of that story.
That was so messed up watching as a kid.
Tall Huey was my favorite! Dewey's dream was so much fun and Louie's dream, while short, had me cracking up (and they had to go through the kitty litter!). Violet's dream was nice and calm, liked it. I feel like Huey's dream really did show the most, though. He admitted he wasn't good at imagination and it was clear he wanted to be seen as the oldest and be able to help. Dewey's reaction was hilarious. Loved you review, thanks!
Love watching ur vids on Ducktales. Might be cool to do some character study videos during the wait such as a focus on Glomgold comic v series or a dive on Donald etcetc. Can’t wait for the next episodes
I admit I’m pretty excited for season 3 now
LOVE your Ducktales stuff! Concerning the location of the mansion, I recall back in the 90's there was s series of 9 map peices included in different Disney comics that displayed Duckburg. Not sure if its canon or not but it might give a better layout of where the mansion was supposed to be in the older versions of Duckburg. Might be worth checking out. Keep up the great work!
I love Huey. Needs more focus. And I LOVE Dewey's freaked out reaction to tall Huey.
When I saw the trailers for the new episodes I figured out there would be a dream episode. One thing I also noticed is in the trailer any time Lena was there she wasn't smiling. At first i thought it was just because she didn't want her friends to get hurt on whatever adventure they were on
CAN'T WAIT TILL YOU DO THE SEASON FINALE!!!
Dewey: I'm too threatened by the concept of a romantic interest for it to take shape in my dreams
Rational part of my brain: he's barely a teenager, this makes sense
Overwhelming majority of my brain: aro Dewey aro Dewey aro Dewey aro Dewey-
SAME!
Lena was a shadow but she found the will to break away and be good and she has magic? I think that makes her a persona or whatever teddy was in persona 4.
9:36-10:47 ...It's been theorized that since Season 1 was mostly about Dewey and Season 2 was mostly about Louie, Season 3 might be mostly about Huey. What you said about his desires & character might be exactly what Season 3 will revolve around.
I like Dewey’s dream
You forgot the little twist at the end that saw Magica us advance tech to make Lena's nightmares happen, which saw as an homage Arthur C. Clark's Third Law "Any Sufficiently Advanced Technology is Virtual Indistinguishable from Magic"
Can't wait till review Timephoon episode...
I absolutely loved that they had an episode about Lena sinse she is legitimately my favorite character
am I the only one who Immeadiately thought about Garfield when I saw lazy Louie cat
Would have been a nice touch if his mouth hadnt moved in reference to the cartoons where Gsrdield never really mover his mouth much even when talking.
This season sure has a lot of outstanding episodes, and this one is no exception. I always love it when a movie or show, especially in animation, explores characters' dreams, since they always provide a massive pool of creativity.
Speaking of which, my favorite dream moments were with Louie as a lazy cat, the whole montage with the various locations and the appearances of Phooey and whale Launchpad, and Lena's nightmare. The latter did an amazing job with the dark color palette, especially with the trees that looked like something out of "Snow White" or "Legend of Sleepy Hollow."
Also, my favorite joke has to be with the unicorn vanishing in a split second: 'Wait, if there's no one around to imagine me, don't I---'
Am I the only one who is reminded of the Presidents Song form Animaniacs by hearing Lena's "Friendiversary" song?
Yes, they're based on the same melody, the William Tell Overture finale :)
I understood Dewey’s dream😆
What dies the tear moon mean?
@LoveBerry just that? Not even how he deals with wanting to stand out or he wishes he could make a name for himeself or how he delt with so much drama trying figure out who his mom was and what happened?
_Just Della duck?????_
@LoveBerry Della was stuck on the moon, and Dewy was the one most obsessed with finding out what happened to his mom, mostly because he didnt give Huey and Louie a chance to do the same.
If anything, its guilt.
Hes also the mamas boy of the group.
Absolutely loved the inclusion of Phooey.
@Seannicus
Am I the only one that noticed the Transylvania theme from the ducktales NES game when magical appeared in Dewey high?
Talking about new characters, I'd like to see some of Donald's buddies from the Navy.
I can’t wait for your next few reviews
Glomtales! May be my favorite episode in the series
Huey's dream is probably one of the funniest moments in the entire show, especially because of how Dewey reacts to the entire thing.
I did like Louie's fantasy as a cat.
Shes my ride or die. Lena got me into this amazing show and I'm not leaving until I see her story through. This was a great episode. Lena now has a real family keeping her safe now. And Magica is going to have to go through them to get to her
It just occurred to me all these months later: I bet the reason Scrooge's money bin is out on the bay all by itself is because of the lawsuits Scrooge would've gotten from his old "neighbors" when the bin got set upon by villains and there was collateral damage. Stuff like doomsday devices rolling down the hill like buzzsaws and ripping the town in half, or localized weather phenomenons wreaking havoc on the general vicinity of the bin.
This might be in my top three episodes of season 2. Problem is, they're all tied. The other two are Timephoon and The 87 Cent Solution. Anyway, I've been thinking a bit and I think the next season might have a bit of extra focus on Huey. I'm sure others have figured this out too, if it wasn't directly stated. While they all have ample screen time in each season, the first one seemed to focus on Dewey the most, while the second one did the same for Louie.
So Fooey was real and he was Magica De Spell all along? What a twist!
This episode is a big Friday the 13th (A Nightmare on Elm Street) reference.
There was also an episode that referenced The Evil Dead. Donald even had a chainsaw covering his hand. It was the episode with the necronomicon vhs.
It just dawned on me. Magica having a prototype dream machine. I'm wondering if that's a reference to that old Scrooge comic story where they have to use Gyro's invention to help Scrooge find an old memory through entering his dreamscape. The one you'd find in some article saying that the movie Inception ripped that comic off, I think it was back when Cracked's website was a thing.
I really liked Magica's depressingly desperate reveal at the end, especially the subtle note that she needed technology to accomplish what she easily could have done if her powers weren't deteriorated. Though part of me can't help but think "OCH! I left me gun on the bus," from the Simpsons Nightmare on Elm Street parody.
You know, I never noticed before, but there's another Disney Afternoon callback in this episode. When Magica is climbing up the ledge after Lena, it directly mirrors the way Brooklyn climbs the side of the building in the opening credits of Gargoyles.
3:55
Lena looks so done with Webby’s shenanigans xD
The whole begging I was screaming: FREDDY KRUGGER!!! DID HE NOT SEE THE MOVIE?! DID HE NOT GET THE REFRENCE?!
So I guess no one is going to mention the unicorn with the existential crisis.
What unicorn?
*twas a joke, since he popped out of existence.*
I loved that for the kids looked like their idealized versions of themselves in Leena’s dream (see 12:50 on). It’s like how she sees them how they want to see themselves.
Who is Lena? Short answer: She's the Disney Descendant of Magica De Spell. Remember Disney's Descendants? The story of 4 kids descended from classic Disney villains that turn out to be good in the end? That can't be just a coincidence.
I love all the dreams
Me too.^^
15:07 Duality? Hmm, I know they've already introduced Negaduck as an actor, but they seem to be introducing the other villains from an alternate universe. Could there be two Negaducks, like in the original Darkwing cartoon?
Me: *loves Lena*
Also me: *sees video*
Me again: *fangirl screams*
Huey Long Legs isn't real, he can't hurt you.
A Nightmare on Killmotor Hill:
Fun fact: The unicorn is voiced by Bobby Moynihan.
I feel like people are dismissing Dewey's dream too much. It's not *just* ego, it's the angst of the middle child. There's a subtle difference between being an attention whore and just wanting to be seen as an individual. His first character arc was literally about being "the other one", this is something that really really bugs him. Hewey is neurotic and smart, Louis is lazy and a troublemaker, but Dewey's just kinda... there. And he knows it. It's hard enough to not get mixed up with your siblings on main, but when you're triplets it's so much worse, and that takes a toll on you. He doesn't hate his brothers, but he does seem to consistently wish that they were his friends or his cousins instead. So all his dreams are ambitious, because it would give him a Name(TM). So finally someone will look at the triplets together and see him first. Oh look, it's Dewey and his brothers. Oh look, it's Dewey.
Out of the brothers he's the most class clown (Louis is the "cool bad kid" which is a slightly different role even though they're both funny, but Louis is amusing himself first and foremost, Dewey needs to entertain *you*), so it makes sense he'd bury legitimate angst under a veil of humour to hide it. Oh that Dewey, he's so funny, look at him doing Saved By The Bell in his head, literally pay no attention to the sobbing invisible thing in the corner. Like the show even lampshaded what it was doing, but people are falling for it.
Magica combined her Amulet with Poe’s to make her Staff.
Their power seems complimentary, with both Poe and Magica knowing spells the other doesn’t.
Perhaps Lena was created from Poe’s magic, making Lena _his_ daughter and therefore Magica’s Niece?
The most likely answer is there’s no deeper meaning. Disney often uses the “evil aunt/uncle” trope. Looks at Ursula, Scar, etc.
Lena is basically Magica’s daughter, but I think the idea of being a mother would horrify her. So “aunt” was a more comfortable word.
The episode title is of course a reference to Nightmare on Elm Street, in fact many aspects of this episode take plot points from various moments across the 8 films. (I am not counting FVJ)
It totally references Dream Warriors, except no one dies. Lol
DO big hero six the series!!!!!
I must say
I adore these intros in the beginning and
Giving me good chills
I loved how creative the animation and visuals in this episode are.
8:50 -- Uh-oh. Looks like Jim Davis is gonna get sued by Disney, now.
…
Yes, GARFIELD came before this cartoon, but that's how Disney works.
Jokes aside, Jim Davis recently sold Garfield to... Viacom I think? So get ready for Nickelodeon's Garfield!
That's gonna be weird.
By the way, remember when Scrooge told Lena that she would have a place in his family back during the fight with magica. Has Lena moved in to the mansion or is still she living in that hovel under the stadium?
When DuckTales does a better creepy mascot bit than a Silent Hill movie.
I noticed the credits for the episode don't say who voiced Dewey's love interest, nor do they have an 'additional voices' list. imdb doesn't seem to have that information, either. what an odd and probably not at all important oversight...
It's also a male and female voice overlap. That in itself has some interesting implications.
Take that as you will.
The last Lena episode (Friendship Hates Magic) introduced the concept of Tulpas, but it didn't quite get them right. In Tibetan mythology a Tulpa is best described as 'a manifested thoughtform'... a concept that a person treats as being so real that it actually takes on a life of its own within that person, and even within the minds of multiple people. The classic example is the imaginary friend.
That's what Lena really is. A tulpa invested in Magica's shadow, and manifested into physical form by magic. She's Magica's niece because Magica couldn't conceive of herself as being her mother; she didn't want someone she'd be required to nurture, she wanted someone she could be in charge of and control... but a lot of the other elements of her identity are expressly things that Magica imagined her with; intelligence and education appropriate to her age, an independent streak and desire for freedom that mirrored Magica's own (as Lena came into existence just as Magica was imprisoned), and a preference for a dark aesthetic that reflects the classical meaning of the word 'occult' (literally 'hidden').
One could even say that Lena is Magica's Eidolon; a manfestation of who Magica could've and even should've been, her best possible self, now externalized and rejected to make Magica genuinely irredeemable. Lena is who Magica would be if she were redeemed.
Well the shadows in the shadow realm are the parts of you that you don’t like right? Lena is Magica’s shadow the parts of her that she put away and tried to manipulate to her own ends. She (Lena) caring, kind, loyal, and supportive. All attributes that Magica would view as weak. And not worth pursuing. And Lena being afraid of those negative parts of her from her aunt makes sense because they are two sides of the same coin in a away. It just depends on how you grow and make choices with the power, friends, and family that you are given and or choose.
The episode plot of Magica making fears come true does remind me of an episode of the original series called Nothing to Fear, only dine through a storm cloud around McDuck Manor instead of in the dream world.
I like lena so much. 😊 happy she is back and stays.
This episode reminded me of David Lynch. Are we sure he didn't secretly wrote the screen play or directed or sneaked into the Disney animator offices and edited this episode?
The Glomgold episode with his original identity reminded me way more of David Lynch, especially the "dream" sequence.
Technically, Glomgold has three identies in that one, each focused on different time periods, much like Cooper had in Twin Peaks The Return.
You got the original sincere Duke Baloney, and then you have the corrupted Glomgold identity, and then you have the Glomgold who has lost his memories, but is now an alternate Duke Baloney, one who never grew a hatred for Scrooge.
The past, present, and future are all explored in that episode, a major theme of David Lynch's works, even outside of Twin Peaks.
But tulpas are also referenced. But thats not something Lynch invented himself, just took the idea of.
what in till you see the moon Invation ep.
it was so awesome to watch and i am looking froward of season 3 soon.
This was a fun episode, Louie had the best segment/dream it was just too enjoyable to watch. The rest of the dreams were good, but more time on Hueys could have been done. Also I think a bit of lay work was done that could hint that Huey and Violet could be a couple.
The episode reminded me a bit of another disney series: Gravity falls, the episode Dreamscaperers. They are both very weird, but really creative at the same time
Fun fact that i really like is that dewey's romantic interest has both a male and female voice, meaning that there's a possible non-heterosexual MAIN character in the future of ducktales!! :D that makes me so happy
Why are ducks dreaming about having wings...?
That's just weird...
such a great episode, now that the season is over...I need to rewatch it all again
Killmoter Hill was named after Scrooge, when he was just arrived to Duckburg, tried to climb it with a car and broke it, cause he didn't pay for a brake.
If no one's around to dream into existance don't I *disappears*
"Why Huey...WHY!?!?"
Did anyone notice how Cat Louie looks sorta like comic Garfield?
there is Dewey high, Huey high, and Louie high.
Dewey because he's in high school
Huey because he's big
and Louie because... well....
Oof