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We need more content like this, this was great! 😩
But I really feel like they didn’t really talk enough on certain topics.
Hi
Do an episode about hypebeasts or sneaker heads
Do an episode about sneaker heads and hypebeasts
I like how you can instantly tell who the Instagram models are 😂
Good.Energii INSTANTLY. They are so offended and triggered 😂 meanwhile the runway models are confident, well spoken and classy.
the makeup....
Good.Energii hehe
💀💀💀lool dwl
Because they’re “body positive” and a lil triggered lol
runway models aren't paid as much as you'd think. only supermodels get paid a lot.
Many aren't paid at all, lol
Amy Duong what makes you a supermodel?
xxxsasukation who said this person is a super model lmao
Yaa even with big pay checks there’s just too much inconsistency with those pay checks. It doesn’t matter if you get paid $1k for a job if you’re out of work for x amount of time because other clients won’t hire you. It’s a huge hustle
xxxsasukation professional models with worldwide fame and high payment are usually branded as supermodels, though this title has become controversial lately, become some of the really high paid models in the industry only are because of their background (Kendall Jenner, Bella hadid...) etc
Supermodels are basically famous, skilled models that get paid a lot. The normal runway models barely live with their salaries.
what is odd is that runway models have actually made me feel confident over the years with how unique and different they can all look whereas growing up with social media and instagram, “Instagram models” are the ones that actually made me feel insecure and not worthy of my body and face.
Runway models are selling clothes and their work and beauty is more like art and admiring a sculpture in a museum.
Instagram models get plastic surgery, wear pounds of makeup and filter every pic. They don't even look like their pictures. Also instagram models aren't models. They are glorified marketing and some of them are engaged in sex work like prostitution and pornography.
Real bro I feel the same
Instagram girls (hardly models) looks cheap and trying hard. Hence, not admirable.
its true!! even women that are in the gym edit the photos its terrible !
this is straight facts
IG models when they say "we are so natural and spontaneous, that's our charm", they actually mean: "we manufacture ourselves and our personality in order to appeal to a community", that's how you know social media is just a world of its own when it comes to superficiality and masking everything about yourself.
Yup!
Preach!
I think its worse that runway models are not inclusive, have harsh diets, and they have to be super skinny
And ??
Also most of them aren't even natural lmao
The runway models seem much more professional to be honest.
They are trained professionals.
Chris W right like 🤣 what
@@melaninstrength1853 that was literally my point lol
The unprofessional model wannabes get culled really fast. You’re left with people who can adapt quickly, learn the walk, take instruction well, and are excellent at interviews with a measured speaking tone.
Because they are
“i’m a social media influencer, instagram model, and social media content creator” these feel like the same thing said different ways
If its all on instafram then maybe. Still, telling 800k followers to give a dollar on patreon just earned you 720k (-80k is the fees)
But yeah, there's decent potential there.
It's all means unemployed really
IKR
@@TheoCynical I'm A farmer, A agronomist and a countryman.
i'm a car driver, a driver of a car and a person who drives cars
“I photoshop my body to make it look a certain way and that’s okay” “I’m against plastic surgery, and I’m all for body positivity”
Are they even trying 😂😂
Editing a picture vs cutting yourself open??? Are you trying to say they’re contradicting themselves or that these quotes are ironic when the two aren’t even comparable..
I liked the bump, but might as well get it shaved down.
@@stitch626ichbruh wtf are u talking about they literally say that they did surgery and that is cutting a parts of their body, fix your wording pls cause it kinda makes no sense
Off the rip Alize, Jessica and Gary literally SCREAM elegance, professionalism, and humble.
Humble? The way the were looking at the instagram models and making faces definitely read "We're better than you"
@@torbjornhogstrom-vj3mkcuz they are
@@torbjornhogstrom-vj3mkyeah that's because they are
@@ahwidmwprjqisnq No human is inherently worth more than anyone else. And looking down on others only reveal ones own lack. A person who is truly successful and happy with themself has no reason to view themself as superior and walk around with an inflated ego. They will just do their thing and lot others do their thing.
@@torbjornhogstrom-vj3mk if i worked hard all my life, had sleepless nights, worked so hard that i cried every night, me, personally, woldnt say i would feel "superior" to someone, but i would have feeling of pride and joy that i worked harder then a guy who has done nothing in their life. im not saying its ok to look down on someone, but its very hard to accept someone who has done nothing even remotely close to what you have, equal.
“Not all ig models are runway models, but all runway models can be ig models”
-my friend
A runway model being an instagram model is a serious downgrade tho
@@samyukthasrikanth4214 They can do both tho
Well said.I would love to know your friend
Nothing but facts!
@@samyukthasrikanth4214 maybe it just shows that runaway models are capable of being an ig model
ewwwww why did the asian ig model say that asian girls are "not gifted with their bodies", but then talk about how ig modellng is about 'body positivity' and 'owning your flaws'??
the other problem with that is that there are 48 countries in asia. and she’s probably only talking about japan, china, korea etc. and tbh everyone looks they’re own way. so idk why she even said that
Jesus give the girl a break, she was talking about her own body not having natural curves as a general result of her genetics.
ikkk It made me sad about my asian body to hear that in order to make it pretty you have to augment it.
@@CC-hw3et she literally said asians arent blessed with good bodies so thats why she put in implants. Part of that is true in the sense that asians are genetically slimmer and have smaller boobs and butt. Disheartening to hear that she said in order to make asian bodies pretty we would have to put in implants
@@unlucky673 no it's not just those certain countries. honestly I think it's just what everyone says it just depends tbh. I'm Laos and Thai but I'm really curvy, but my aunt is petite and she has no butt or big boobs. so I just thinks it varies
I am honestly more inspired by the runway models than the Instagram "models". As harsh as it sounds, two of the three influencers don't even look like humans. The runway models look so real and warm.
THATS the word i was looking for! Inspiring! Thank you
They do "look human" tho. Being in shape and wearing a lot of makeup doesn't mean you don't look human tf
Why are you dehumanising them for? Your comment screams jealousy.
they are most certainly not in shape @@Denzz2
REAL
Says a lot about our world when runway models who are stereotypically seen as "snobby" are actually down to earth, more real than these "inclusive" Instagram models. "I'm against plastic surgery" gets plastic surgery. "I don't really like photoshop" photoshops pictures to "enhance".
This.
I think a difference is Instagram models become Instagram models to be insta famous, to get likes, followers, sponsorships, validation. While runway models have often come about doing this in a different way. They are scouted, been doing this since childhood, went to an agency, wanted to be a runway model. They aren’t often searching for all (if any) of the same things Instagram models are. When people looking for fame and validation on instagram achieve it, their egos and sense of entitlement shows through.
It’s funny how the Instagram “models” look rich and are trying to look soooo good and then the runway models look so natural that it looks like they aren’t even trying.
Fr their so beautiful
They, runway models, are so elegant!!!!
@@Steph489 i mean all of them are beautiful but u can definitely see the try hards lol
Sasha true and idk if it was just me but I feel like the ig girls were low key jealous of the models. But that just the way I see it ❤️
Its important when being a runway model to look like a canvas rather than a painting.
No wonder Alizeé an international runaway model. She's so elegant oh my
I'mma diamond meh
I watched this video because she was so appealing to me lol
Ikr
Yeah, that's the perfect word to describe her
She's probably French 🤔
Edit: yes she is, my Frenchie radar was right
the crazy thing is that runway models NEVER made me feel insecure, but Instagram models did 💀
…why does Mariam looks like she’s 40💀 I couldn’t believe she’s 29
I would even say 45😭
@Colette Pnn. I was looking for this comment lol. 39?! *in my Soulja Boy voice*
Its the plastic surgery
Stop being so judgy ☠️☠️
She reminds me of hazel e from lhhp 😭😭
are these IG models really tryna say editing and plastic surgery is rare?! lmaoo get outta here, they know damn well how toxic IG is
The male model said the truth about photoshopping
Hmm exactly, but I think every time the runway models say something like that they get offended
For real, iPhone apps are crazy with that.
And then they all say that they’re okay with being photoshopped
Amen. Even when IG "models" say they promote "body positivity" it's a lie cuz they don't show their real body/faces cuz it's hidden behind filters, photoshop, plastic surgery, etc... And, Miriam lie, she definitely don't look 29. I'm 29 and she looks twice my age.
How can the ig “models” be promoting natural beauty and then get that defensive about photoshopping their pictures lmao
Hypocrites is the word
Even their "natural" no makeup pics are facetuned,and they do wear makeup(its called no makeup,makeup)
They are making a living doing what they love and are good at doing.
@@florastewart7957 not a very honest living if they photoshop the hell out of their own photos but theyre allowed to do what they want. Just like im allowed to criticize it
@ThreeBananasForAEuro Mr. Styles uh did YOU even listen to what they were saying? two of the ig models said they photoshopped their bodies to “make the photo look a certain way” (11:09), and have you even seen their instagrams?? Only one ig model doesnt photoshop her body like crazy. I have no problem with them or anyone photoshopping out acne since, as the real model said, its temporary. But faking a super tiny waist and big hips while preaching “body positivity” is super hypocritical to me, and im allowed to criticize it.
The difference in class and elegance is so apparent here. The models seem to have a perspective that is shaped through hardwork, experiance and travelling meanwhile the Instagram 'influencers' seem totally amateur in principality and how they view things, like how are you going to justify photoshopping your body? That's insane to me.
experience*
Well said
Thats the problem with creating your own version of reality on the internet you come to believe its separate from the real world. World travel matures and changes human beings thats why the Runway models are the way they are
I could definitely sense the insecurity of Instragram models. Also, they didn't seem honest. I do admire that they got where they are now through their hard-work and all but they're not too professional with the way they carried themselves. And it's ironic that the runaway models actually made me feel better about myself than the influencers.
Idk why but the word social media influencer always makes me cringe
Modeling is a form of prostitution. . Use body for money.
@@brianboru175 i guess it depends, if you are modeling your body specifically, then yeah. if you are just acting as a mannequin, showing how clothes look on a person, then i don't think it applies as much. there are different levels to it, i guess.
Its like when they say ‘digital marketing expert’ or i got a degree in ‘gender studies’
@@brianboru175 so any physical
Labor is prostitution?
Exactly! I mean they influence to do what basically?
Is it weird that instagram models with their "body positive" make me more insecure than runway models?
i think because it's clear that being a runway model is simply something most people cannot be. so their body types are unattainable. it's almost like being human art. whereas instagram models are just regular people...
Same...
Weirdly enough I think the Instagram models are extremely insecure and are always trying to prove themselves to the point of getting defensive, and it shows. Especially with the amount of photoshop these girls use and the fact that they are trying to defend it just proves how much they wish they could attain an impossible level of perfection, and that's not a healthy way for anyone to think.
I've never felt insecure because of runway models because it is understood that they were born that way- they got lucky, and now they just get to take advantage of it. Instagram models make me feel poor, because I could look more like them with money. But all the money in the world won't make me as effortlessly beautiful as a runway model, so it's easy to look past imo.
I know that runway models get retouched and that they’re Born with their bodytype. But i never know if a Instagram model edits his/her picture, and ik never know if what i see is real.
Gosh I have such a problem with these Instagram models, they’re everything that is wrong with this growing awareness of beauty. So hypocritical. They say they don’t use filters and don’t support plastic surgery but they do both!! I’m surprised to say the runway models feel more real.
Walking Contradictions 😮 ??? You hit it on the head these fashion magazines don't want that its natural beauty like "GIA CORONGI, by the way a grate movie 😮
its interesting to see how the IG models present different from the runway models. the runway models are almost without make up, simply dressed and seem more relaxed while the IG models look like they are constantly performing - full on make up, tight revealing dresses etc. its like one big show
The term “influencer” annoys me
Why?
Stephanie Gallardo because Instagram models or TikTok dancers aren’t influencers or atleast it’s sad that they are
I know what you mean.. kinda like overpride
I think being an influence means you have A) a platform of people to influence B) send a good message. Maybe models aren’t ideal code for influencer, but some other stuff are. For example, PrinceEA is an influencer because he influences you to the reality and how it can become better and how are actions impact that.
Same💀
The girl in white, She just felt so insincere. Like she wants to prove that instagramming is on the same level as being a real model. She answered yes to almost all of the questions. Which caused some contradictions.
Same, felt she was "listening to respond" versus to "listening to understand"
@@ylsflv YES.
I am aganist plastic surgery.
I have done plastic surgery
Instagram models are inclusive of all races, gender and body type.
Not everyone can be instagram models
We support body positivity. You have to own your flaws
Photoshopping your pictures is okay
@John Mark seriously bro. Right after she says she is kind of against plastic surgery she admits to it. What a joke. She’s boring af too I can’t stand her voice.
She contradicted everything she said within a minute
Can we talk about how runway models don’t need to much to look attractive. They just look so classy, natural and the aura around them is different
Fashion models are meant for art while Instagram models are meant for attraction that’s probably why I felt more insecure about looking at Instagram models than fashion models.
The word “influencer” just makes me cringe so bad
Cuz that word is associated with cringy SJW’s and professional victims
gypsy 1999 I’m talking about “Instagram influencers”
gypsy 1999 huh
Yea I don’t really get the “influence” part
They influenced me to cringe
Am I the only one who hates the word “influencer”?
That's because we say it all the time now.
I hate it.
no.
You're definitely not alone. It has bothered me since the first time I heard it.
No, we all hate it.
What's worse is having ig influencers pretending to be inclusive and positive when they retouch the photos they post. A Runway model will make someone less insecure than an Ig influencer who is supposed to be just like them
The way Alizée walks is just gorgeous.
Now that’s something that only professional models have.
It broke my heart to hear that the male model couldn't find a job because people thought he was too dark skin he's gorgeous and y'all tripping
Exactly!
D. Val he sure is handsome, really smart too
IKR he’s gorgeous
welcome to the real world
He is too thin in my opinion
I'm sorry, but something about Miriam saying that her job is just as hard as a runway model's job just made me mad
I found that to be kinda insulting towards runway models
@ its not as easy as you think. you have to do so much in order to be able to positively influence people seeing your profile. think about that first.
Runway modeling is extremely cut throat and hard. Obviously insta modeling is easier because you can model anywhere and choose your own clothes. Runway modeling is controlled by the industries and insta modeling is more controlled by the people who are modeling.
Because she have to use her money to do a full plastic surgery on her face and hired a professional editor to Photoshop her body and face, lol
@@nickloveskangin oh jeez, how very difficult. This is the morons concept of 'hard work'.
Im an aspiring fashion designer, and one of the main reasons why we use people who are taller, have longer limbs, and are skinnier, is that these characteristics allow us to fit more detailings and layer garments proportionally (such as a blouse under a puffer you are able to extend the blouse longer to accentuate it). Also on top of more allowance, the body type creates more flattering drape like long legs allowing the fabric to sway elegantly to match the vision of the look. So these make for mainstays in what a model should look like. There are other characteristics that may a model may or may not have such as broader shoulders to give a sense of strength and works well with more masculine looks, or longer neck to accessorize or collared garments.
Ultimately you would think designers want to create clothes people can actually wear and not just be seen once on the runway and maybe another time on a red carpet.
@@mel_issa__Tbf with runaway fashion, sometimes it's more art than functional clothing. The models are a canvas for the art.
@@mel_issa__High fashion/runway is VERY different from commercial fashion though
@@mel_issa__it's high fashion ,not commercial fashion
@@SRBOMBONICA86commercial modelling is still something to be proud of though.
Instagram models are the proof that literally anyone can be a model nowadays without beauty and elegance.
I thought the runway models finna be egoistic and looking down on the “ influencer “ but... more like the opposite.
Sophia Chrin yeah it was as if the influencers were trying to prove that they’re worth as much as them
Miguel Hernandez - makes sense, looking through these comment sections they got bashed to the infinite so i don’t blame them 🤷🏼♂️
Emma Emma yeah and that’s what made them better, r you okay?
Most influencers have pretty fragile egos. Take the numbers away and there goes their confidence.
Calamityking - can u blame them tho? it’s not only their confidence it’s their income too
I feel like the runway models can easily become “Instagram models,” not vice versa
But it's not, so they can't
True
Well fking said.
Mmmm many runway models struggle with accumulating a following on Instagram right now unless they’re intwined in some sort of celebrity scandal. Most runway models stay comparatively unknown
So truee!!
Prob with IG models is they think the modeling industry should cater to them. Unfortunately, that’s not how it works. The primary function of models is to essentially act as mannequins for designers in order to show off their designs. Designers create sample sizes for their creations in shows and models need to fit into them. Unfortunately, your job isn’t to uplift women. You’re just a vehicle for designers to show off their clothes. The IG models in this conversation see modeling as this glamorous job but are blind to the realities. They aren’t acknowledging the women who move to the US from economically deficient companies that live in model apartments barely getting by. IG models just see success related to sponsorships and likes on posts.
I think that huge designer brands have the resources to be more inclusive.
@@themorrigan4445you missed the point. It's not about the person, it's about the clothes. Runway models are like extras in a movie. They are there to serve the spotlight, they aren't the spotlight
The main difference is as follows. In reference to use on a resume, One can be put in the “Past Job” section, and one can be put under the “Skills” section.
For some reason runway models make me so much less bad and conscious about myself than the “body positive insta models”
EXACTLY! I feel like in the quest of being body positive, ig models just make me focus too much on myself and my body while these runway models just say “I was naturally blessed with a nice body” and move on
Same! I don’t know what it is but they make me feel so good lol
I thought she was 49
right!! they seemed much more genuine and secure in themselves whereas the ig “models” felt like they were constantly trying to prove themselves
Same especially since I'm tall and thin and Instagram models are all plastic and photoshopped
The runway models could step into an photoshoot in exactly what they are wearing right now.
Ikr !
Stprincess fr tho lmao
Hey, I'm a small skinny 23 year old Japanese guy. Can I be a model? 😂
Thats what models are good for, everything looks good on them. Thats why all the brands use them instead of me and you
The difference is very obvious
Instagram model: Showing off themselves
Runway models: Showing off clothes
Also, loved this bit @21:15
Runway modeling isn't about just being skinny and tall. The charisma and the overall walking on the runway decides if the model is really 'it'. Regardless of size. Being a runway model is obviously way more difficult than being an instagram model (not against them at all). And this is an obvious fact because the runway/modeling/supermodel industry existed way, way, way before Instagram models.
I can’t be the only person that hates the word “influencer” lmao. "I'm an entrepreneur" - 20k follower instagram influencer
Nope I hate it too
I agree with you. Everyone's an influencer in a way. We all make impressions on people we interact with and even strangers and passers by. I don't have thousands of followers on Instagram but I still influence those who see my posts. And so does everyone else who interacts or socialises with other people.
I hate it too
it's so cringey when someone classes themselves as an 'influencer' 😬
I despise it too
I hate how the girl in the white dress kept trying to argue with facts about an industry she will never know.
🤣🤣🤣 the fact that she looks 40 and not 29.
@@trishabidesi8604 SHES 29?
she really isn't arguing shes saying stuff from her perspective.
Creed Shotgun which is arguing?
Lmaoo like stop talking as though you’re more hardworking than a runway model
The way I knew straight away which ones are real models. I mean... their bodies, they way they carry themselves, their faces... Alizee is so stunning...
I feel like Mariam is the kind of person you’d be stuck in an elevator with and she the one with really strong annoying perfume
“Do you know it’s a job and not something to get free clothes for?” My guy be spitting fire
He was so donee you can see it in his eyes🤣
Riggghhttt
we already know he wanted to go off on them for being so two faced
I wheezed so hard THOSE FACTS! 😂 ❤️
Time stamp?
i'm not the only one who noticed how much more natural the runway models' makeup is than the instagram models, right?
Fashion models have to be attractive without makeup or filters. Models take neutral headshots with no makeup in addition to their portfolio so photographers can easily see their bone structure and proportions which is a base for anything additional that may be added in a shoot.
And?
instagram models usually do make up that is more suited to be photographed that's probably why and obviously because of influencer culture
I refer to that have at dramatic makeup as Instagram makeup, I’ve never seen anyone in person with it on
@@mariae.h.9403 its just that when you model the goal is to look naturally elegant and putting all that makeup like it models defeats the whole purpose
Funny how the Instagram models want to advocate for a healthy lifestyle and promote 'body positivity' but at the same time have surgery and think this isn't going to affect the community you are attracting
I am a "conventional" model and there is no one who I ADMIRE more than the models who smash through the beauty standards, no filters, natural faces and bodies. This is so important to me
the male model looks like art.
A b s o l u t e l y
Did somebody mention art ?
He has the best skin. Bone structure snatched to the gods! Skinny but they all seemed underweight to me but that's what they have to be.
A really good one
IKRRR
My respect for runway models 📈📈📈
Factzz
Same.
@Nayha Mills Why do you have so Much respect for Them?
@@theandreaschannelv233 just by the way the answered the questions and the seemed more humble
Okay but for real Miriam is all ''against plastic surgery'' - one second later she's like ''yeah i've had plastic surgery'', I- hunnyyyyy
Can we just talk about the fact that the Runway models have so much class and elegance. I have seen diversity in the modeling industry.
I fell in love with Gary. He's just amazing. Of course he's great, handsome but he's also very intelligent and the only people out there with class were the runway models. They are not only beautiful, but also moderate, modest and quite smart. Those so-called "influencers" destroy everything they touch. They are ordinary people with average IQ and no talent. They don't even know what they're supporting, and their envy of the runway models was pretty obvious. Take me back to the '90s please.
ah yes the Kate moss era. very enjoyable.
I feel like Mariam was so intimidated by the runway models and tried to put them down when she kept asking if they retouched their photos.
Jealous cow
Madara Uchiha not cow
@@fillyourfeed9317 donkey?
she was just salty
I got that vibe too, she was insecure and you could tell.
I don't think an "influencer" has ever influenced me to do anything.....
nor me LOL😂😋 And never will to be honest.....
im not even on it anymore some days it would upset me and id be like these people dont know me...they dont know im caring im loving im respectful im kind and honest they are just judging me on how i look so i got rid of it Lol😂
\and im way more happy now i dont have it😋
The only influencer that has changed my life is pewdiepie
I started reading more books,workout,and start keeping up with my body health
But not to disagree at all
Influencers dont do anything
Me too😂😂😂😂
They are tryna "influence" us to buy some stuff lol thats litterally their job
@@berencicek4704 yeah that's what I meant. No influencer has influenced me to buy anything or subscribe to anything
asian girl said her own race is not gifted, that’s some serious self-esteem issue, and quite sad.
TBH no race is gifted, some individuals from every ethnic backgrounds are.
@@ThisUserPassedAway she doesn't think so, she thinks her race is inferior. Aesthetic merits are determined by human beings ourselves, the world will see her as she sees her own race. It’s sad.
People think too much about themselves when it comes to professional runway models. It isn't about you, it is about the clothes. The fashion designers use one size, thus they need models to fit those standards. It would be so much work having to fit clothes to different sized models, find all those different sized models and hope that they don't let you down on the day.
I'm sorry. I think I still don't understand your point even after reading it couple of times. Care to explain?
@@Kisamon People think runway models need to represent others. It isn't about them, it's about the clothes. There is a reason they use one size.
Gary’s voice can be a model, too.
LMFAOOOOOO ROLLING
Naima Mirza
Seriously. !
And Alizèe her voice is so calm
LMFAO YES
YES
of course instagram models can afford the clothes they promote they don’t work for gucci and louis vuitton... it’s fashion nova and sugar bear hair
Sugar bear hair I'm dead 💀
Dont forget daniel wellington
Lmaooo 😂😂
who would waste their money on gucci and louis vuitton they dont even look good, just go grab some nike clothes and you good
sugar bear hair OMG HIDE THIS COMMENT FROM TATI
You didn’t have to tell us which ones are the instagram models, we can tell.
11:42 i could not stand that girl who said “BRUHH ARE YOU PERFECT??” after gary said he was against PS editing. they both made points but no need to project your insecurities just because you’re not confident in posting unfiltered photos
GARY THAT SKIN IS MOISTURIZED BRO
Ga Shou i didn’t even notice before this comment, woah
arienne ikrrrrr !!! I want the sameee
Me toooooo
Ga Shou YEA
Black don't crack
"we don't retouch photos much anymore" ah the lies, the lies
Yeah just 5 hours of Photoshop now rather than 6
Let's just say as girls....we know that's bull💩
Well, nowadays you don’t even need photoshop anymore. You can use AI photo editing apps to automatically retouch your photos with in a matter of seconds with a few clicks.
“One can photoshop oneself to beauty, but one cannot photoshop one’s ugly personality,” (Albert Einstein).
I know 😂 like when you’re runway you’re literally there in the moment so you like have to make sure you do it perfectly you can’t “retouch” a little and she was so pressed because they exposed her lmao 😂
I love how polite their conversation is.
The professional models just look so premium and class above
Of the instagram models, I only like Chantelle. The other two are exactly what the runway models were criticizing about instagram models.
Now the runway models, damn, they just seem more honest but also down-to-earth?? Very likeable.
funny enough, Chantelle gained followers since this vid was posted while the other two lost followers
❤️
Never did I think there would be a attractive male model named Gary.
Now you've seen two
three
Also his intelligence and everything idk
vad?
Just take out the r
notice how different the instagram models talk and the runaway models talk, their hair and makeup too? says alot 😽
the runway walk to the chair every time was 🤌🏼💋
Insta models: "We want to spread body positivity"
Also Insta models: "I photoshop my photos to look better"
Mia Kala and getting cosmetic surgeries
I'll say it a million times, being overweight isn't body positivity. Promoting obesity is counter productive, unhealthy, and sends a terrible message to young girls and the general public.
Youwillstarvexx I completely agree, self love and self destruction disguised as positivity and diversity are 2 different things and it is disgusting and sends out more of a harmful message to young people like that of anorexia.
@@youwillstarvexx1548 I 100% agree with you on that
-Runway Models: Saint Laurent, Alexander Wang, Off White, Gucci
-Ig Models: Fashion Nova, Sugar Bear hair, Slim tea, Fabletics
It's a whole nother word.
Wait a minute fabletics is actually good 😐 do a lot of Instagram girls promote them or something?
Instagram models are more for the likes and comments and “clout” i feel rather than an actual runway model, they don’t really focus on the looks of the models but promoting the brand they are representing.
Flat tummy tea
Noemi Garcia sugar bear hair 😭😭
But it doesn't always cancel out. After all, emma chamberlain collaborated with Louis Vuitton....
I can't believe how many times the Instagram models contradicted themselves
5:07 the way Jessica speaks so just 🤌👩🍳💋
13:39 THE WAY ALIZÉE WALKS SHEEESH
21:41 - 22:22 Her advice. So beautiful and impactful regarding confidence for me.
I’ll be damned if I’d ever have to call myself an “Instagram model” in front of professional models.
For some reason I’d feel embarrassed 😭
omggggg right?? I don’t know how they aren’t mortified
Same!! Rather stick to being a blogger😭
I would literally die
I would die from embarrassment
When Gary and the other runway models are better body positive models than the instagram models.
Chantelle was the only one who really displayed body positivity
FOR THE LAST TIME, body positivity is for crippled people and people with bodily disfigurements, NOT THOSE WHO CHOSE TO EAT UNHEALTHY
@@adamsmith1573 well yeah, I have a crooked nose and a flat body, nobody is telling me that that's okay, I want some influencers for people like me
@@adamsmith1573 though I'm totally into the curvy baby models
lmao the irony
The one chick is not 29.... 39 yes..but not 29. I d9nt believe that for a second. I'm 37 and she looks way older than me...
I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed that! Lol
I'm 42 & she looks older than I do, she's at least my age - if not older.
That chick is about the same age as my sister but she looks like she could be our mother
@@angiew2324she doesn’t look older than you lol, but if it makes you feel better then sure
Millenials always in everyones bussiness but themselves. 🥱
instagram models saying it's okay to photoshop your body while spreading "positivity" is sad and funny to me.
the instagram models were wrong about the filters, retouching, facetune, etc. I really don’t see many real & raw pictures of instagrams models, their not really moving away from it.
exactly . they seemed very insecure to me .
Chantelle's is really raw actually if you look at her page
Tek a gyal man i know some of them are raw, but there’s still a massive amount of them who aren’t. They acted like there was a big change but it seems to only be going up tbh
False please check me out @camilleaaustin they are out there but people don’t support the norm.
Instagram has made me way more insecure than runway fashion ever did.
i think ever guy and girl feel's like that....i got rid of mine because there was days i would be upset and....really
i dont know these people they dont know me they dont know im a good guy that is respectful caring loving and kind. Its just about how i look ..so i agree with you 100per cent Brittany
but from a guy that is picky when it comes to girls, you have nothing to worry about your Beautiful🌹 ...and im not been thirsty im just been honest with you!😊
Than that's a U problem since u can't even be confident in ur self
Right cuz those girls definitely dont edit out stretch marks, right? 😑
I hate my height.. I'm too short to become a runaway model 😢
@@Girlelsanna im pretty sure runway models dont limit anyone just because of height. Theres probably agencies everywhere that accept ppl regardless of height
In my teen years, I used filters and edited my photos and it would make me feel insecure about how I naturally look. Now I've stopped altering my photos altogether and I feel much better sbout myself. These IG models talk about being yourself and loving your body, but there is no way you can truly do that if you feel the need to photoshop your pictures
alizee is the definition of a classy and fair french madam.
I have a massive crush on Alizée. She carried herself so elegantly.
Like true Beauty
Her walk is just 😩🤍
Simps
I have a crush on Gary I’m bout to ✨s i m p✨
nostxlgia i already ✨a m✨
When instagram models didn’t move for “anyone can do my job” I was like betch plssssss never rolled my eyes that hard 🙄
RIGHTT i was like uhhh start walking.
Well, everyone can do runway model as well then.
@@PatrickAnibalDill that's your opinion, but i disagree
@@PatrickAnibalDill so a person who is 4'3 can do runway modeling for you?
You usually have to be tall to be a runway model
Instagram models can say they don't retouch their photos, but realistically what will we know? they can do it whenever they want and odds are they probably will. Saying that they want to limit the use of retouching is just never going to happen. Instead for real models the photos are never touched going down the runway its there and then so you have to make it count, also it does determine if they get another job too. Still up to this date A LOT of Instagram models use retouch and I can see up to this date which is 3 years later they're still using it, so real modeling is more raw and hard to get into instead of being an Instagram model because yeah anyone can start up and build a community.
It’d be cool to see designers vs fast fashion buyers!
no way that guy is 35 he literally looks like hes in his 20s
That's the difference between runway and ig models,their health is a priority
Black don’t WHAT?! (crack)
No he doesn't look like he's in his 20s and that's okay. On top of that 35 is not old.
calm your tits omfg, first off i never even said it was old and second off most 35 year olds I've seen don't look as young as he does which is why i said that
Ik
At the end, the runaway models were the ones promoting body positivity... and Chantelle
chantelle
bro she said she’s okay with retouching pics for profit how is that body positivity-
@@jazmin4320 idk... maybe try listening to the words she actually said? the words she spoke might make more sense than the interpretation you came up with! :)
@@tamiwithaneye no shes just inconsistent with her views tbh. she does have the ideal body type for instagram anyways and especially plus size models. she’s fine with hiding her cellulite but is for body positivity? doesn’t make sense
@@jazmin4320 ok? So hiding cellulite equals ant body love. So runway models who hide acne with makeup are also the same right.
It’s funny because the instagram models argue about body positivity which I think is great, but the runway models have certain quirks, and don’t change with body trends and that makes me feel joy because I love seeing everybody’s little unique quirk that they have the confidence timidem with
The runway models are all naturally beautiful. ne insta ones look like they spent to much time at the surgons
I dont get this, should we only like the lucky people but not the less fortunate who have to resort to other methods (gym, surgery, etc.) to better themselves?
@@Sai-iz3ep nope, but naturally almost everyone is beautiful. surgons make it often worse
Gary is 35, he looks younger than Mariam, no hate on her. He is fine.
Jo I thought the same thing when they were telling their age 😂😂😂
@@randomtroll- 💅🏽
Black don’t CRACK
Nnedi Nwadike
PERIODT 🤪💅🏾
The reason is because maybe just maybe she lies about her age 😄
The runway models were so striking and effortlessly beautiful
Lol the guy just looks regular to me
Because they don't have to convey or impart that, but on the other hand...
@@Kidicaruslover jesus christ do you live in asgard?
They're ok.
That’s the point
the difference between both groups and the energy they give off, the elegance and way to talk is so big, at some point i just wanted only the models to be speaking because damn, let actual smart, not hypocritical and down to earth people talk
We needed this vid!!! I’ve been signed to multiple different agencies in New York, and in Hawaii and I have no social media. It’s very different
You can tell who’s a professional model by the way they strut to their seat 😂
Gotta be ingrained.
Yeah. I bet runway models have incredible posture all the time. I also bet a lot of them do or did ballet.
Immediately I saw this comment this came up 8:51
Everyone is talking about how beautiful Gary and Alizée are, they are definitely, but oml is no one gonna talk about Jessica? Her natural features are so beautiful.
Yeah she is gorg af.
She is so crazily gorgeous
She was by far the most attractive
She's super hot
i can see gigi hadid in her
What a nice “debate” for a change! More positive conversations please 🙏🏻