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Wow! So many memories came flooding back while watching that! I’m feeling a sense of relief about the rigging and a massive smile about our safe arrival in Antigua. Thanks for having me aboard for the trip of a lifetime!
So so proud of you all, what an incredible achievement 🤩🤩. That first sip of champagne looked dreamy. P.s Mitch’s cooking ability whilst on the boat continues to blow me away 😂
Thanks Becky!! It was such a mega relief to be there after so many months of working towards it! It took a very long time for it all to sink in after we arrived. Did you try Mitch's banana bread recipe yet on our Patreon page? xx
Hi guys....what a great adventure and mission, let's be honest, it is a mission to cross an Ocean. The rig failure could have been a real big problem...but it is 'could'...you dealt with it really well, nice and calmly lol! Antigua rigging make the new bolts for you? It is always the weakest link that bites the hardest, and finding the weakest link is hard too...a block, a pin, a shackle...at the top of the mast...never in the cockpit during day light haha!! So, what's next? West, North/South or East???????? Love the whole story guys...brilliant Vids etc Love from Mich and I x
Dear Paul and Mich, really cool to be able to share these videos with you both! After all, it was my time on AWOL Again where I first caught the sailing bug :) Really appreciate that opportunity you gave me and the knowledge you passed on (and I'll never forget your pirate story!!). We did chat with Antigua rigging haha! They recommended Marine Power Services who made new eye bolts for the lowers and the cap shrouds (albeit at a bit more expensive than was first expected!). We've installed the ones for the lowers already at anchor and plan to go into a marina soon to get the caps done and a professional rig re-tune before we position for the hurricane season. With covid travel restrictions limiting ease of movements and a feeling we wanted to slow down our rate of travel, we've spent the whole season in Antigua so far! We're thinking Grenada in a few weeks, and then back up the eastern Caribbean chain for a proper explore starting in November. Best wishes from us both x
Luckily we’ve been able to replace all of them for new ones in Antigua :) After the incident we started a discussion thread on the Facebook group for Rival owners, and it seems that these bolts are a surprising design flaw in an otherwise very seaworthy boat. Basically the area to apply sealant and create a seal at the deck is too small, and saltwater commonly gets in after a while, leading to crevice corrosion as you suggest. Our plan is to check and re-bed the new ones periodically.
Just a thought, you recently had a rig inspection and wire tension done in Lagos, Portugal. Now during the Atlantic passage the rig bolt shear off, although it does not look corroded... I would definitely go back and challenge them for their (less than ideal) work.
Yeah we thought we’d been quite prudent having had the rig inspection, but we have since found out by discussing with other Rival owners on Facebook that the eye-bolts are a bit of an Achilles heel in an otherwise rugged boat design. While the bolts are thick there is quite a small area for sealant to be applied where they meet the deck, and therefore over many years it seems that a small amount of saltwater has crept in for us and other owners. For us this caused hidden crevice corrosion, and the break point on our bolt is suspected to have been a ticking time bomb for quite a while. As a result we’ve made up new bolts for both our lowers and the cap shrouds too. And every couple years, we’ll aim to re-bed the new bolts to ensure we have a sufficiently good seal at the deck. Despite the standing rigging being 8 years old and not due for a replacement, we have since learned that the actual eye bolts may not have been updated until now, so they could be as old as the boat. So, all things considered, I think the eye bolt problem is sufficiently niche to our boat design that I can’t hold anything against the professional riggers who inspected Cherry Ripe. Hopefully, our experience can be useful to other Rival owners. It’s a reminder to myself that I have to have a lot of attention to detail and full understanding of the boat and it’s maintenance in order to maximise our level of safety while out on the water.
You guys are just the BEST..thx for that and what a fantastic and great achievement to cross the Atlantic..cheers and fair winds mates.. keep em coming I love it!
Thanks for a beautiful narrative with video and sound quality on a totally different level! The quality you put forth is simply amazing. Super great work! Can I ask what kind of sound gear you were using while filming in the windy environment offshore please?
Thanks so much Vegard, and your appreciation of our efforts with the sound makes us extra happy! For the talking-to-camera we use a Countryman lav microphone clipped to our jacket with a little fluffy wind protector, which either goes direct into the camera or occasionally via Sennheiser G3s. Otherwise we use a top-mike, the tiny Movo VXR10GY, which is quite useless in the strong wind even with its fluffy. (We still have a Sennheiser 416 and big wind protector, which worked better, but it’s far too large to put on top of the mirrorless DSLR camera we are now using. So we plan to change our small top-mike when budget allows for it!). We occasionally use an old Zoom H4n and fluffy to collect various sounds from around the boat, such as waves slapping against the hull. In the edit, for the sailing sections in particular, we often layer up a mix of sounds we recorded ourselves and other sounds we find on the internet (such as from freesound.org).
Wow! Just found your channel and it's wonderful. I really enjoyed this episode and I'll go back from the beginning and catch up. Hope you are well and enjoying whatever it is you are doing, and wherever you are doing it. It's early June and it's been 5-6 months since you landed so I'm not sure where you are, but I'm sure it's paradise......great job handling the rigging problem too, that was a stressful situation. Good thing that spare was on board.
Thanks a lot Michael! Hope you’ve been enjoying the earlier episodes. Antigua was indeed a paradise and of course experiencing it by boat means new and unexpected challenges along the way, as always! We had a few battles with our engine but it was more than offset by the good stuff. Look forward to share the story on TH-cam when we finish the edit. Best wishes, Tim and Mitch :)
Fabulous, well done to you. Bit of a fright on the rig but you dealt with that calmly and great you had a spare chain plate bolt even if it was an old one. Love the enthusiasm of Mich and wow those pancakes looked good. That was one hell of a drone we saw landing is that the one you lost? Andy UK
Thanks Andy! Yeah, we were so lucky to have that spare bolt left over from a previous owner. That's right, the drone you see is the one we lost to the ocean :( The arrival pancakes and breakfast champagne tasted so good! We all quickly passed out afterwards though!
@@AndyUK-Corrival Thanks for your input. I wasn't under the impression that the wire had failed. In my view the chain plate and its connectors and anchoring points are an integral part of the standing rigging. I'm still interested in how old all those components were - not to be critical, but to learn.
@@francismontocchio9910 Understood, I didn’t mean to suggest you had missed that point. The boat would have been built in the mid to late 70’s but it is often difficult to know what might or might not have been checked or replaced I guess.
Thanks Francis and Andy :) The standing rigging was last replaced 8 years ago by a previous owner. We've learned that the eye bolt which broke suffered from long-term crevice corrosion. After more research we don't have any evidence to suggest that the bolts have ever been replaced on Cherry Ripe (built in 1979). As a result we have made up a whole new set of bolts now. We are not super experienced sailors and had felt good before the crossing having had a professional rigging inspection and knowing the age of the standing rigging. I guess the lesson here for old boat owners is to really identify which rigging parts have been updated, and therefore which other components need a close inspection. For another Rival owner planning a similar trip I'd suggest removing the bolts to have them inspected or replaced, especially if they might be the originals!
We hope you enjoyed the watch! If you have any questions, or want to say "Hi," then join us on our TH-cam LIVE Q&A session Sunday 16 May: th-cam.com/video/2Feq9vagUjg/w-d-xo.html 🤙
"It's not the clock that ticks, it's the world that spins." -Mitch. I love and just wrote down that quote. Thank you
What a great episode and so many incidents and things to add interest. Again, beautifully filmed and edited.
Wow! So many memories came flooding back while watching that! I’m feeling a sense of relief about the rigging and a massive smile about our safe arrival in Antigua. Thanks for having me aboard for the trip of a lifetime!
Chief! We wouldn't have managed it without you! Good memories! Did we really do that?!
What an achievement guys. Big props to you... Such a big and bolt adventure, very brave. Love watching it.
Thanks Jolene! It was a big challenge for us, but really happy that we did it!
So so proud of you all, what an incredible achievement 🤩🤩. That first sip of champagne looked dreamy.
P.s Mitch’s cooking ability whilst on the boat continues to blow me away 😂
Thanks Becky!! It was such a mega relief to be there after so many months of working towards it! It took a very long time for it all to sink in after we arrived. Did you try Mitch's banana bread recipe yet on our Patreon page? xx
@@waterpeople-expedition not yet! I’m on leave soon so will give it a try 😋
Hi guys....what a great adventure and mission, let's be honest, it is a mission to cross an Ocean. The rig failure could have been a real big problem...but it is 'could'...you dealt with it really well, nice and calmly lol! Antigua rigging make the new bolts for you?
It is always the weakest link that bites the hardest, and finding the weakest link is hard too...a block, a pin, a shackle...at the top of the mast...never in the cockpit during day light haha!!
So, what's next? West, North/South or East????????
Love the whole story guys...brilliant Vids etc
Love from Mich and I x
Dear Paul and Mich, really cool to be able to share these videos with you both! After all, it was my time on AWOL Again where I first caught the sailing bug :) Really appreciate that opportunity you gave me and the knowledge you passed on (and I'll never forget your pirate story!!).
We did chat with Antigua rigging haha! They recommended Marine Power Services who made new eye bolts for the lowers and the cap shrouds (albeit at a bit more expensive than was first expected!). We've installed the ones for the lowers already at anchor and plan to go into a marina soon to get the caps done and a professional rig re-tune before we position for the hurricane season.
With covid travel restrictions limiting ease of movements and a feeling we wanted to slow down our rate of travel, we've spent the whole season in Antigua so far! We're thinking Grenada in a few weeks, and then back up the eastern Caribbean chain for a proper explore starting in November.
Best wishes from us both x
Amazing guys! Incredible feat with an eipc film to match x
Thanks Liam! Hope you’re doing well :)
The old sleeping seawater attack on stainless steel in absence of oxygen ? You will have to check all of them now. Unusual for a Rival boat methinks ?
Luckily we’ve been able to replace all of them for new ones in Antigua :)
After the incident we started a discussion thread on the Facebook group for Rival owners, and it seems that these bolts are a surprising design flaw in an otherwise very seaworthy boat. Basically the area to apply sealant and create a seal at the deck is too small, and saltwater commonly gets in after a while, leading to crevice corrosion as you suggest. Our plan is to check and re-bed the new ones periodically.
Guys, seriously....so so cool. I want to attend the live stream very much!
Just a thought, you recently had a rig inspection and wire tension done in Lagos, Portugal.
Now during the Atlantic passage the rig bolt shear off, although it does not look corroded... I would definitely go back and challenge them for their (less than ideal) work.
Yeah we thought we’d been quite prudent having had the rig inspection, but we have since found out by discussing with other Rival owners on Facebook that the eye-bolts are a bit of an Achilles heel in an otherwise rugged boat design. While the bolts are thick there is quite a small area for sealant to be applied where they meet the deck, and therefore over many years it seems that a small amount of saltwater has crept in for us and other owners. For us this caused hidden crevice corrosion, and the break point on our bolt is suspected to have been a ticking time bomb for quite a while. As a result we’ve made up new bolts for both our lowers and the cap shrouds too. And every couple years, we’ll aim to re-bed the new bolts to ensure we have a sufficiently good seal at the deck.
Despite the standing rigging being 8 years old and not due for a replacement, we have since learned that the actual eye bolts may not have been updated until now, so they could be as old as the boat.
So, all things considered, I think the eye bolt problem is sufficiently niche to our boat design that I can’t hold anything against the professional riggers who inspected Cherry Ripe. Hopefully, our experience can be useful to other Rival owners. It’s a reminder to myself that I have to have a lot of attention to detail and full understanding of the boat and it’s maintenance in order to maximise our level of safety while out on the water.
You guys are just the BEST..thx for that and what a fantastic and great achievement to cross the Atlantic..cheers and fair winds mates.. keep em coming I love it!
Thanks so much!
Great video once again guys. Very jealous and wish I was 20 years younger!
Thanks Steve!
Thanks for a beautiful narrative with video and sound quality on a totally different level! The quality you put forth is simply amazing. Super great work! Can I ask what kind of sound gear you were using while filming in the windy environment offshore please?
Thanks so much Vegard, and your appreciation of our efforts with the sound makes us extra happy! For the talking-to-camera we use a Countryman lav microphone clipped to our jacket with a little fluffy wind protector, which either goes direct into the camera or occasionally via Sennheiser G3s. Otherwise we use a top-mike, the tiny Movo VXR10GY, which is quite useless in the strong wind even with its fluffy. (We still have a Sennheiser 416 and big wind protector, which worked better, but it’s far too large to put on top of the mirrorless DSLR camera we are now using. So we plan to change our small top-mike when budget allows for it!). We occasionally use an old Zoom H4n and fluffy to collect various sounds from around the boat, such as waves slapping against the hull. In the edit, for the sailing sections in particular, we often layer up a mix of sounds we recorded ourselves and other sounds we find on the internet (such as from freesound.org).
@@waterpeople-expedition Thank you! …and one last thing you forgot to mention… the skills how to use this equipment 😉
Wow! Just found your channel and it's wonderful. I really enjoyed this episode and I'll go back from the beginning and catch up. Hope you are well and enjoying whatever it is you are doing, and wherever you are doing it. It's early June and it's been 5-6 months since you landed so I'm not sure where you are, but I'm sure it's paradise......great job handling the rigging problem too, that was a stressful situation. Good thing that spare was on board.
Thanks a lot Michael! Hope you’ve been enjoying the earlier episodes. Antigua was indeed a paradise and of course experiencing it by boat means new and unexpected challenges along the way, as always! We had a few battles with our engine but it was more than offset by the good stuff. Look forward to share the story on TH-cam when we finish the edit. Best wishes, Tim and Mitch :)
Such a fantastic voyage . Well done guys amazing effort. Love the quality of your content, so beautiful to watch 😍
Thanks that's really kind 😀😀
Brilliant episode and congratulations ! have fun in the Caribbean 😀
Thanks! 😃
Fabulous, well done to you. Bit of a fright on the rig but you dealt with that calmly and great you had a spare chain plate bolt even if it was an old one. Love the enthusiasm of Mich and wow those pancakes looked good. That was one hell of a drone we saw landing is that the one you lost? Andy UK
Thanks Andy! Yeah, we were so lucky to have that spare bolt left over from a previous owner. That's right, the drone you see is the one we lost to the ocean :( The arrival pancakes and breakfast champagne tasted so good! We all quickly passed out afterwards though!
Wow, what an amazing crossing! I really hope you'll stau until next winter and maybe meet somewhere in the Caribbean! Nick
We'll be in the Eastern Caribbean for sure next winter :) Look forward to meet up
Congrats on your crossing! Well Done!
Thanks Terry :)
Nice video!!
Thanks!
Congratulations!! May I ask how old your standing rigging was at the time of the breakage?
The wire didn’t fail it was the chain plate bolt that failed. It must have been crevice corrosion or a badly misaligned bolt.
@@AndyUK-Corrival Thanks for your input. I wasn't under the impression that the wire had failed. In my view the chain plate and its connectors and anchoring points are an integral part of the standing rigging. I'm still interested in how old all those components were - not to be critical, but to learn.
@@francismontocchio9910 Understood, I didn’t mean to suggest you had missed that point. The boat would have been built in the mid to late 70’s but it is often difficult to know what might or might not have been checked or replaced I guess.
@@AndyUK-Corrival Thanks. Let’s see what they say :-)
Thanks Francis and Andy :) The standing rigging was last replaced 8 years ago by a previous owner. We've learned that the eye bolt which broke suffered from long-term crevice corrosion. After more research we don't have any evidence to suggest that the bolts have ever been replaced on Cherry Ripe (built in 1979). As a result we have made up a whole new set of bolts now.
We are not super experienced sailors and had felt good before the crossing having had a professional rigging inspection and knowing the age of the standing rigging.
I guess the lesson here for old boat owners is to really identify which rigging parts have been updated, and therefore which other components need a close inspection. For another Rival owner planning a similar trip I'd suggest removing the bolts to have them inspected or replaced, especially if they might be the originals!