Do a NIИ Ministry feud. I heard So made Trent pay him to be a roadie. Then Trent helped TVT ruin waxtrax records. That's what I've heard. Don't know if it's true
I'm glad Trent stopped hating...the few great artists left from a great era in music needed to be supportive of each other. Especially when the number of great artists are dwindling rapidly. RIP Chris.
@@te9591 They're a young band full of brothers from Michigan. Greta Van Fleet ... I bought their albums for my daughter because she told me she liked Led Zeppelin every time she heard them. Now when I drive her car their cd is jammin! They rock!
When you’re as talented as Chris Cornell, you confidently do anything you wanna do and it shouldn’t matter. He was my absolute favorite and I was crushed when he left.
Exactly he was always playing around with different sounds. He wasn’t selling out he was trying to create something new for himself. This dude did a Whitney Houston cover as an example.
@@MustObeyTheRules I did. Saw them live a week before Chris died. The show was one of the best experiences of my life. But I didn't like any of his solo stuff outside of Euphoria Mourning, which would have been an absolute masterpiece if he could have convinced Kim, Matt, and Ben to go that direction with him.
@@brandonutterback3789 It's ok, you don't have to like everything. That would be not having a critical sense for things. But that mistake surely put Chris in a bad place, emotionally speaking.
I love how chris wrote back using a bible verse. Gave me goosebumps knowing his faith and what a swamp of satanic musicians on his same level of platform he had to deal with. He was murdered.. period. Him and Chester bennington were going to expose a lot. Chris was even working on a documentary human child trafficking etc. They are not the only ones that have lost there lives trying and about to expose the beast system.
'Scream' was pretty atrocious, but I hate that people think you always have to stay in your genre or niche. Everybody likes to change things up every now and then. -Unless you're in AC/DC.
I don’t think he even had a niche to begin with. Soundgarden isn’t really “grunge” there’s no other alternative band that sounds anything like his stuff.
All I know is that Chris and Trent are both pioneers and creative visionaries and I love them both. I'm very glad I got to see both tour together back in 2014 for the 20th anniversary of Superunknown and The Downward Spiral. RIP Chris.
Yes, but one was a consummate Profesional musician who was a genuine honest person, and one was a good musician with a really shitty personality, who constantly criticizes other musicians and fans. I have always loved trent's music, and likely always will, but every interview I see with this guy turns me off more.
Reznor just took industrial music, EBM etc.. and commercialized it. Ruined the whole scene. And his voice is that of a sniveling little bitch. If anything he invented 'emo'.
Much respect for Chris for trying something new!! In my opinion, the title track “Scream” along with “Never Far Away” were really great songs...and I’m so glad that he recorded them.
It's a great album in general. I know people hate on people/bands becoming radio friendly. But as father of 2 amazing sons - I really like these type of albums now because they become gateway albums for my kids to transition into really cool stuff. Sadly most great bands released these albums, the hate hits hard, and someone kills themself. We need to stop hating on music, and just realize that if we don't like it, it's not for us. Right now my oldest son loves listening to Scream and One more light. One more light being one of his favorite albums. While these albums were slammed by the public, there is a 9 year old boy who loves them and a father who does too, together we are a better unit because of those albums. But because of the hate, our bias, our inflexible attitudes.....there will be no more from those bands of that caliber. Albums are about love. If you don't love it - move onto the next. But keep you mouth shut. You don't know what consequences may happen if you don't let go and move on.
@@FarrFromPerfect plus, why does it have to be that he did it to be more radio friendly? Why do they all assume it's impossible that Cornell genuinely liked the concept and wanted to expand, musically? People's tastes change over the years.
Yeah, I love NIN and have since Broken, but Reznor's lost his passion in songwriting. I'd love for him to do more producer work or contributions to other projects in which he's not the focus.
I'm grateful that I saw Soundgarden open for NIN for that tour. You just never know. Trent has been my favorite since 1993. I believe that his music is his truth. He's strong enough to write and sing about it, which also makes him so relatable to many of his fans. Majority of my friends that I met at NIN concerts or social media respect him for sharing the dark parts of his life and most have been down the same roads as him. Why Alessandro had to make the "depression" and "I'm so bummed" comments is flat out rude. Or am I an idiot and never, but should've, interpreted every song Trent wrote as happy times, make love not war (Get Down Make Love just came to mind) and be happy (you don't need to hurt yourself to feel)? Trent's been through some incredible transformations. However, years ago, he had no problem destroying the equipment that failed him on stage (and I don't see that part of him anymore). He definitely seemed to be going through shit and it must be fuckin hard when you gotta be "on" and do a show. I'm so happy for him and how far he's come. How he has this beautiful family he deserves. But I feel for Chris too. Sadly we still live in a time where mental health issues can be looked at in a negative light ( my dad always said, it's a chemical imbalance and medication may be needed, just like a diabetic needs insulin). If the stigma was no longer there, maybe he could've been saved.
"In the case of Cornell, I don't know Chris. I do know what label he's on now and I do know who's whispering in his ear. And heavily on the With Teeth album, I turned that record in and I would get back "Hey you know, you might wanna... maybe we need to put some beats on this record." I'm not making this up. "What do you mean beats?" "Well this urban thing is really taking off. You'll get it in the club. You know, what if we had Dre or somebody..." And the part of me that wants to be the open-minded artist says, "I'll consider that." I even went so far as Timbaland doing a, trying to do a, remix at Interscope's dime of "Hand That Feeds," which was laughably terrible. And when I turned in Year Zero, which I thought had the coolest beats I've ever come up with and I hear "Yeah, we need some cool beats," it's like "you know what, suck me." And I'm sure there was someone whispering in Cornell's [ear] and he can put that off as some kind of sociocultural experiment, but what it was, was a money grab and when you do that you're saying to other people that look up to you, it's okay to do that and it's not okay to do that. It isn't." -Reznor on the matter He didn't hate Chris, he hated that Chris got tricked by a record company that had spent years trying to trick him into making the sort of album that Chris made; and Chris paid for it with his credibility. You may not like what Reznor releases now that he's grown up past screaming at God, but he never let a room full of men in suits with marketing graphs tell him which genres he should push into to maximize his monetary gain. He saw what Iovine was doing: interfering with his creative process (something he warned Iovine about all the way back in 1993) he saw the record company gouging his fans, he saw the writing on the wall and so he left the label as soon as he could, spending the next half a decade experimenting with new music distribution methods so that both artist and fans could benefit from. He's not polite about it, Trent Reznor has never minced his words and it can make him look like an asshole in the moment, but was he really wrong? The music industry was on the verge of self-induced collapse, the time for niceties were long over. He was trying to save musicians and the music business from themselves. Calling Chris' album an embarrassment was the nicest thing he could have tweeted.
yeah at no point was anyone attacking Chris himself and I think Cornell got that. Reznor's an asshole but with a good heart, and I think Cornell was similar.
I don't know, I think one could argue against that being the nicest thing he could have tweeted, but good on Trent anyway, for being so much better than most people, yet still taking time out of his busy day to let us know he's better than us. He doesn't have to do that you know? He could have just left us blinded by our blissful ignorance, completely unaware of our inferior status, but NO, he's cool enough to give us little people a heads-up. The album was already paned by critics but just in case people missed it, Trent was there to let them know not to buy the album. Yeah, I'm sure Chris understood...
@@ChickSage He could have flat out called it what it was: a souless cash grab. He did it once to a re-release of Pretty Hate Machine. Chris got off light.
@@bigguy1164 Yeah, but it's not like Trent was required to release a public statement critiquing every album Chris released. Plus, when he shits all over another artist's art, it takes food off that artist's table, and he knows that. It's bad enough when a critic acts like he/she is some kind of authority. I can taste it myself and decide if it's good. Hey, it's America, dude can say whatever he wants, it just seems a bit excessive, like waiting for someone to fall down and break their ankle, before kicking their teeth out. They already have a broken ankle, so why not let them keep their teeth? :) peace
@@datguitarplayer1656 I think he liked the idea of the album, but the execution left a lot to be desired. He was new on Interscope and wanted to be on Jimmy's good side. That rarely ends well, and it left what he wanted to do sounding artificial.
1:11 Chris' smile from this clip just makes me miss him more. Never did see SG, but did see 2 shows on TotD tour, amazing stuff. Some of Chris' music was hit or miss at times, but as a person I don't think there was a kinder person in all of music.
Well, Trent Reznor did have a point (though a bit harsh) and truly, quite good sportsmanship of him owning up and actually apologizing before the co-headliner.
Love both these guys. Seems like Reznor has always been a guy trying desperately to overcome dark instincts, realizing when he's been wrong and trying to make it better. Like his time recording at the Tate murder house, figuring out that's it's hurting people and changing. I always respect someone who can do that.
@@chadkase7580 seems like things were patched up well enough to tour together. You never know what conversations people have in private that don't get featured in TH-cam videos years later.
Chris Cornell was a monstrous, unique talent. He allowed himself to evolve artistically his entire career. "Scream" was an interesting experiment along the way and many of the songs are as melodically strong as anything else in his canon. I like when artists go outside their comfort zone without knowing where it will lead. I thought it was lame that so many people bagged on it simply because it wasn't Soundgarden or Audioslave or super "heavy." Reznor's comments sounded like jealousy and sour grapes. In my opinion Cornell ran circles around him in raw talent and songwriting. Plus innovation and experimentation.
"...should do some sort of urban thing". That is, to me at least, the biggest problem music has had over the last fifteen or so years. Everything that's even been mildly popular has been tainted with what the corporate a$$holes call "urban". If that's your style of music fine. Nothing wrong with the style, but it doesn't have to be in everything.
Haven't watched the vid yet, but either the title is bullshit clickbait, or they squashed their beef at some point because the second time I saw Nine Inch Nails was a co-headlining show with Soundgarden. Anyway, time to watch. Update: Ah, okay. that tour was mentioned at end. I didn't even know they had a feud. Damn. Now I wish they would have at least put out dis-albums back and fourth like rappers do when they got beef with each other.
Sure that’s a no-brainer. The real question is, do you have Cornell’s solo album “Scream”? I didn’t even know it existed until I saw this video, and now I wish I hadn’t seen this video.
TestMeatDollSteak I remember my drummer brought in the CD during band practice. We were all excited. We put it on and noticed right away that this was the bullshit term, experimental, which in essence means, the artist knows it sucks and the label use that term to promote it as if this is a deep thing. It’s funny because when we moved into a new studio , we left the cd alone in the room.
Huge Nails fan, and while I thought Soundgarden had a great rhythm section, I always hated Cornell's voice. Really can't stand it. Otherwise I 100% would've been a fan.
@@gratao25 And it's things like this that make for a true artist. Who wants a recording artist to write the same album over and over? I may not go out and buy these albums, but im sure Chris knew that going in.
Celebrities needs to cut their thumbs off so their hands can’t type the 13 year old spouting 100 - word rants that twitter allows.. what a useless platform
Have you done a story about this: November Rain” is based on the short story “Without You”, written by Del James and published in his book “The Language of Fear”. Axel wrote an intro to the book.
I thought scream was a really solid album, i still listen to it occasionally. Funny when people think an album is bad, they think their opinion is god.. im a big nin fan, but harsh comments are kinda unnecessary. How many albums on first listen are not great, then they grow on you in time.
I love them both. Very very VERY much. Chris was buried on my birthday and I will never forget that birthday. I cried for 4 days and didn't speak to anybody. I even took off work. It was like a piece of my childhood/teenage years was gone. 😭
Well this is a fine concept but I don't think it's a sufficient analogy. Cornell went hip hop because it was fashionable and could make him some money. The results were not another superunknown. The result was a forgettable piece of tripe.
theres a vid here on youtube of an interview with John Lennon and he is getting pissed at the lady because she keeps wanting to talk about old stuff.....and i think this was after the beatles ended.....but he gives her a real blast of shit .....im paraphrasing.......Look love im glad you loved i wanna hold your hand but im all grown up now arent I??? And so are you!!! lmao worth checkin out
I love both of these two gorgeous musicians 🥰 good for Chris for taking the high road, and good for Trent for admitting his shade. 🖤🤟 Rock In Peace Chris 🌻
the record producers tried really hard to get the musicians of the 90s to sell out and i have loads of respect for trent for sticking to his art. just about every band eventually caves and does an album like that.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m a huge fan of NIN, and he’s entitled to his opinion. However, I he was off here. Reznor is his own man, with his own life experience and integrity. Chris was a totally different person, honouring his own values and experience. While he was obviously a huge fan of rock music, he also had roots in black music, that most of his fans were probably unaware of the Fopp ep comes to mind. Covering an Ohio Players song even in 1988 was a risky move for a rock band, and people didn’t dig that either. If Reznor wants to pontificate about his own integrity and values, as they bear on his own life and output, respect. If he wants to apply that to someone else, fuck him. Music history is replete with examples of musicians that stepped out of their lane and took a chance to grow as an artist, to exercise another part of their musical self, to expose their fans to something they wouldn’t otherwise listen to. The thing is, the rock, hip hop, country clique thing is so high school. Great music, great artists stand on the universality of their work. You can have all the integrity in the world, but if you can’t find a way, and aren’t even willing to try to find new ways to connect with the widest possible audience, it renders you semi impotent. We are all human, with shared experiences and emotions. If a rock musician tries to find a way to indulge his musical influences, and communicate his experience and emotion to some other fan, how can that ever be wrong? Putting people in boxes they can’t get out of kills the spirit, and sometimes them as well.
@@snw7159 Thank you, much appreciated. I realize anything beyond a couple lines seems to be beyond average attention spans, but my replies have never been directed at average readers. Thanks again.
I was 14 when scream came out and i was blown away by his vocals and the production on that album and I thought it was incredible. I think people where just stuck in there old ways and only liked the rock and metal stuff he did. He wanted to be experimental and try something new and I thought it was great.
Is doing what everyone else is doing in the pop world really experimental though? Cornell has always been something of an experimentalist and he never needed a big shot producer like Timberland to make great music
@@MySocksAreOnFire-b4c He tried making a pop on he stepped out of his realm and experimented. How is that not experimental for a guy who is done rock alternative metal and even dabbled in some folks kind of stuff does it mean I am trying to do a pop album if you even wanna call it that not experimental. The guy had a great seeing voice already so it’s not like he had to modify his voice to actually sound decent and I really wasn’t that typical pop kind of sound honestly the beats and the production didn’t even Have that traditional pop kind of vibe to it a lot of the songs work we’re deep
@@123JAILBREAKME you're making some points man if a well known pop star would have made the same record and released it, it would have be praised but having someone like CC whose been in the rock music industry his whole career and have him do it, it gets slandered on I honestly think that metal elitists are dumb asf to try and get an artist to stay where they have always been is just dumb to begin with, it's their music they should be able to do what they want and CC's solo work was more poppy sounding and experimental anyways so it's not much of a difference
Cornell is number 1 please they're good but he's another level as for Patton Cornell is three or 4 levels higher it's an insult to suggest they're around the same level they are clearly not
For example, Head like a Hole was reworked (to the upbeat "On a Roll" version) for a Black Mirror episode where Miley Cyrus sang it throughout. He not only personally approved it but had black mirror referenced shirts with on his merch store. Not saying that's bad at all but yeah...
I heard (true or not) that when NIN was first trying to break away from their synth pop image that they sent out 5 different sounding demos to labels desperately trying to get signed, and the first one was the pretty hate sound. Again, don't know if it's true, but interesting story even though i much prefer his heroes Ministry.
@@rosxjun entirely besides the point, that's more about his having a sense of humor. I doubt the Black Mirror thing was based wholey on a monetary grab.
@@randblackwell8675 NIN was one person before the first album, Pretty Hate Machine was released. It was 100% Trent doing everything. I highly doubt he recored five different albums just to get signed. That doesn't show a tremendous amount of confidence in your work, and seems unlike him.
I was caught off guard the other night watching some Chris Cornell solo concert video by how different and un-rock the music is. Until about an hour into it when I realized how great his solo stuff really is. He’s confident and fearless and the music is both imaginative and catchy. You can tell he is making music for himself here and whoever wants along for the ride come along. Or don’t. But if you don’t you’re missing out on some really great music IMHE.
Everyone has a lull in making music. Chris had soooo more songs I listen to than most Artists. The Man is a Legend and His music always will be Legendary and Rockin!
Wild. I didn't even realize Cornell had a "disastrous" solo album. I've always been a soundgarden fan, Cornell had one of the most distinct voices in rock. He did an acoustic version of black hole sun on Howard Stern that is absolutely beautiful!
And he did it with his effortless but focused way, nothing remembering that he was a rock star in his behavior, only his out of this world talent. There is another video where HS remembers him and how he arrived that day and others days, smiling and saying hello to everyone. He didn't say anything but good things about Chris Cornell. And he was really in shock. He kept saying: there is no way that man killed himself, no way.
honestly id really pissed that the "strobe light" thing isnt a thing I can buy forcing all of those peeps into a room would probably make some interesting musoc
Meh, regardless of how they feel about cornell's solo album(not a big fan of his solo stuff in particular either)...it really seems like they are just jealous of the past especially since Trent basically said he was upset when superunknown took #1 in the 90s lol
@@traviscarver4708 I have heard a couple songs off of it but it was a while ago, I will definetly give it another go and I have alot of respect for him
Whoever thinks Chris wanted to be more radio friendly is wrong. Pretty sure that's not what Cornell had in mind when he worked on that album. When you listen to Soundgarden's discography, you can tell that they changed their style for every album. You won't find two albums that sound the same. Then you listen to Euphoria Morning and the difference is even more noticeable, obviously. Then comes Audioslave and a totally new musical style for him. Then came Carry On and his Michael Jackson cover, and then Scream where he went more pop and R&B. Then he went full acoustic and then came Higher Truth, which was another great album with new sonorities and melodies. My point is that Chris was a real artist who liked to explore new horizons and that's one of the reasons I love him so much. Trent's critics was just ridiculous and it sounds like he was just jealous of Cornell's success in the 90s.
Not sure I would call this a "feud". Anyway, great respect for Chris Cornell and Trent Reznor and I'm really glad I got to see Soundgarden on that tour with NIN. RIP Chris Cornell
I loved the album - Guess what , you can like guitar based music AND electronic and Hip Hop music. It's only the innate snobbery and cooler than thou attitude of some folk that make them chat ignorant rubbish like that. Chris was a fearless artist and had deep respect for black music - both past and present. If you think otherwise, go and listen to an interview with Michael Beinhorn who produced "Superunknown" and listen to what his main influences are and what music he's was producing in the early 80's. Chris tastes were way broader than the music biz contrived "Rock" genre.
So glad I got to see SOUNDGARDENS very first reunion tour go around .. saw them at a very small paramount theater in Seattle .. but During the NIN Co tour.. wasnt Matt Cameron gone most of it? For Pearl Jam shows ?? Can’t imagine seeing SG without Matt behind the kit
I listened to Scream before I went to see Chris' solo show right after it was released. It wasn't my favorite but I appreciated the vibe, and to see Chris' show anyway. I didn't regret it.
Artists exploring is what make them honest, and artists. Chris kept true to just that, win or lose, it is all part of the journey. What Chris did was own that while others who were not as bold, criticized.
There’s nothing wrong with being super critical to a musician you admire for the work that they put out which is sub par if best. Glad that Chris handled it like the gentleman he is. RIP.
Consider doing a video on the Suicidal Tendencies and RATM feud. I can't seem to find any specifics about it other than the Infectious Grooves diss track. Thanks for all the work you put into the channel. Good content.
That Mike Muir vs RATM is going to be hard to research. Yes, Infectious Grooves recorded a dis track. However; no member of RATM has ever commented on it and Mike Muir only says that he THINKS Tom Morello said stuff about Suicidal Tendencies. He never even states what he THOUGHT Tom said. Good luck getting to the bottom of that one.
@G Lol this is not the crowd for a request on a video for those so-called "artists." Now, I can only speak for myself, but I'm pretty sure that no one else would really like a video like that, either.
Never understood why Chris got so much hate for that album. Yes, it’s definitely not one of my favorites, but I credit his creativity to try something new. Its not like he was rapping, he still sang on it.
@Susie X There's room for both of them. They both have produced incredible music. If you're interested in comparison, then how about Chad Kroeger and Scott Stapp.
It has already been 3 years since Chester and Chris’s deaths. Chester would have turned 44 and Chris would have been 55. Never forget these two legends dead too soon.❤️❤️❤️😭😢
This reminds me of the time I saw Pantera in July ‘96. At one point their singer bellowed “Don’t you hate it when your favorite band sells out?!” He was clearly referring to /MetallicA\, who had just cut their hair short & adopted a more melodic sound on the single “Until It Sleeps.” The crowd roared its approval. Two weeks later, at Lollapalooza at the same venue, I left right before /MetallicA\ came on in their headlining slot, due to being convinced they were now wimpy turncoats. I’ve still never seen them, and am mad I got emotionally tricked into abandoning them. (Both concerts were in New Orleans, the hometown of Pantera’s singer.)
I saw Pantera many times from 95 - 2000 and I remember that as well! I believe it was the tour they did with White Zombie and Eye Hate God in 96' and yeah, he trashed Metallica pretty badly. Coincidentally he overdosed the next night after the show in Dallas but was revived by paramedics thankfully. He also apologized later on to Metallica, in point of fact.
And that is crazy that you remember an exact month and year date that you saw a band that long ago. Maybe I’ve just seen too many bands play over the decades, but there’s no way in hell I could have a recollection like that for something that long ago. The best I can do is Lollapalooza ‘94 - couldn’t say a month!
Scream was a really good album. From what I can gather, Chris Cornell wanted to try something new. You can hear the influence of Scream all through Higher Truth and on Patience, which lots of people praised. Maybe without scream, this album and song would of been a lot different. Food for thought.
Ha! I saw NIN and Soundgarden at the Shoreline in Mountain View... Didn't know about this spat until now, but it was a great show! Thanks for the video man, Love the content 👍
@@chadkase7580 Glen got old and fat where as Trent got his shit together and is jacked now. Also we know from the Northside Kings incident that Glen is a one punch chump.
I've been a fan of Trent and Chris' for over 20 years (Chris happens to be my favourite singer/songwriter of all time) and I remember when Reznor said this I was like: "what a shitty attitude." Even though Scream is my least favourite Cornell album, I would never crap on another fellow artist for trying something new. Chris was not listening to anyone else (as Reznor states), he was the one who had the idea to try something new and to explore uncharted territory. He was the one who got everything rolling for this record. I think Reznor was projecting his own experience in the music industry (being told to change the music) onto Chris and assuming that was the case. If you watch interviews with Chris, he explains his reasons for Scream and how it came about. Reznor said it all with his first line "...I don't know Chris". Then he shouldn't have made assumptions before spewing b.s. in the press. Billy Corgan is another one that I lost all respect for after he trashed Soundgarden for reuniting for "another round at the till." These egomaniacs don't know when to be quiet. SP was one of my favourite bands until I saw Corgan in one of the post-original lineup iterations that he called Smashing Pumpkins (2008). He literally yelled at the crowd for chanting SP's hit titles (the tour was called THE HITS) and ranted about how he wasn't there to please the fans. It was the most awkward show I've ever been to. Chris Cornell on the other hand was a complete master on stage with Soundgarden in 2011 after their reunion, and they continued to make great music after that.
I haven't heard the Chris Cornell album "scream". But I know that AFI did a great job going into the electronic sound with 'Cex Cells'. So yea, maybe it is not too bad. I'll be giving it a listen sometime. I, surprisingly, never even knew about all this.
I wish I was able to see NIN & Soundgarden together back in 2014. That co-headlining tour seemed as badass as the KISS & Mötley Crüe tour, plus it got praised reviews
They had a bit of a rivalry with Soundgarden and NIN competing for the #1 album on the charts in 94 with Superunknown keeping The Downward Spiral from getting the top slot. But they obviously mended any differences they had considering they toured together in 2014. I saw three shows on that tour. It was great.
At least he was able to put differences aside and apologize before Cornell had died. That's probably the most important thing about this to Reznor. Because he would probably be haunted by it everyday if he didn't.
Nin is Kinda flat still music that doesn’t really go anywhere. Chris Cornell’s music all around is amazing. CC was also full of life when Trent didn’t inspire me at all.
Trent was wrong. He thought Chris was selling out and doing what sold records and what the public wanted. But actually he was doing that with Soundgarden. Because we all loved his scream and his rock voice. But Chris was a man of many tastes and he loved funk. He wanted to do something different. He had already made it he was branching out and doing so many different things with his life. he had a restaurant, he had different charities he was involved with ... He could do whatever he wanted and he chose to do this album. I liked it. I thought it was fun. It was different. I wished he came out with a CD of children's lullabies cuz I would have bought that too LOL in fact my ex's kids requested to go to sleep every night listening to Euphoria morning. He wasn't a sell-out. He did whatever he damn well pleased. I miss him and listen to his music every day❤❤❤🎶🎵
Yup, Scream was a terrible record. The only bad record Chris ever made. It was still about as punk rock as can be. Chris went against all that people thought of him by doing that record and never complained at all about the negative response. He just carried on like the class act he was. I too hated that album and made jokes to my friends about it but no matter how bad Scream is, everything else he recorded is solid gold. He most definitely gets a pass from me for trying something completely outside of his comfort zone.
@@TheBetabox no, I like DOTU but its not my favorite. I do enjoy pretty much all of his work and no, I don't worship him. I just think he was a infinitely more graceful public figure than Trent. Does it bother you, my opinion?
Hate to say it, but as a huge Nails fan they haven't put out much of anything that I've cared for since the Slip. A track here or threre (the Twin Peaks bit was pretty awesome), but as for solid album efforts I cant listen to them start to finish like everything else. Hesitation Marks was pretty bad imo. Ghosts I-VI I also enjoyed, as NIN's instrumental stuff has always been some of my favorites.
@Aidan King Again, how can you be a NIN fan and not like Bad Witch? It not being your thing does not make sense if you're a NIN fan. Now albums like The Slip or Hesitation Mark I understand, maybe some other less ambitious albums, but Bad Witch is one of the most interesting albums Trent has ever made.
What you're talking about wasn't the first time Nine Inch Nails and Soundgarden shared a bill. Those two bands were on a tour with Marilyn Manson and Reverend Horton Heat in 1994 too.
Call me a madman, but i think once you get over the initial trauma, the songwriting in Scream ends up being pretty good. Yeah, it's not a sound we'd expect from Chris, and i don't think it totally works in that record, but the songs are good enough that it makes it really tolerable to me. A very underrated record
A feud takes 2 participants, this was Reznor behaving like a 13 year old girl on her first day on Twitter. Continuing to criticize repeatedly afterwards, then wimping out with an email apology makes him look a real douche. I'm glad Chris didn't bite on Reznor's juvenile trolling, he was always a class act and one of the most popular and beloved among his peers.
Life long Soundgarden fan here and I enjoy 50% of what Reznor puts out( he will never top ‘The Fragile’). IMO I saw Soundgarden open for NIN August 11 2014 in tampa, same day Robin Williams died. They both did well. Hopefully someone will say something to Reznor about his 3 latest albums, yeesh
Btw the footage you use at 1:03 and at the end, is Chris being interviewed after Pinkpop festival here in Holland in '92. Fantastic show, was a fan for life after that. But the interviewer was pretty stupid, asking Chris why they'd play so loud. And if noise is good for a wet rainy day. lol th-cam.com/video/GedeYnlQlY4/w-d-xo.html
One of the 10 best vocalists............wtf yeah i don't think so. Chris had the best rock voice period. There will never be another Chris Cornell. Rip brother!!
Leave you suggestions for November Videos below. I've got a ton more of Trent Reznor/NIN videos I still want to tackle
November? We're not even in October yet lol
Do a NIИ Ministry feud. I heard So made Trent pay him to be a roadie. Then Trent helped TVT ruin waxtrax records. That's what I've heard. Don't know if it's true
Tackle the Trent reznor/Marilyn Manson feud
@@daoust26 I second the Trent Reznor/Marilyn Manson feud.
I REALLY want to know what happened with Joey Castillo and Queens of the Stone Age.
I remember this. Trent didn’t have nice words about the album. Cornell ignored the insult and then went on tour with NIN a year later
It only shows who had class! And who don't!
Chris was a better singer and song writer, he wasn’t offended by a lessor.
I'm glad Trent stopped hating...the few great artists left from a great era in music needed to be supportive of each other. Especially when the number of great artists are dwindling rapidly. RIP Chris.
Didn't they kiss and makeup on the NINja tour?
Now one of the best true rock bands in 2020 is a Led Zeppelin clone. Sigh ... we can only relive past greatness of tapes, tubes and vinyl.
@@maynardblaston6093 who is that?
@@te9591 They're a young band full of brothers from Michigan. Greta Van Fleet ... I bought their albums for my daughter because she told me she liked Led Zeppelin every time she heard them. Now when I drive her car their cd is jammin! They rock!
@@maynardblaston6093 yeah, I figured it was them.
When you’re as talented as Chris Cornell, you confidently do anything you wanna do and it shouldn’t matter. He was my absolute favorite and I was crushed when he left.
Exactly he was always playing around with different sounds. He wasn’t selling out he was trying to create something new for himself. This dude did a Whitney Houston cover as an example.
And as always, he just smiled and keept going. Who knows how much weight all this added on his shoulders.
Chris Cornell is my hero, but that album was very, very bad.
Brandon Utterback who cares, don’t listen and move on. Don’t sit and destroy the guy over it like these assholes did.
@@MustObeyTheRules I did. Saw them live a week before Chris died. The show was one of the best experiences of my life. But I didn't like any of his solo stuff outside of Euphoria Mourning, which would have been an absolute masterpiece if he could have convinced Kim, Matt, and Ben to go that direction with him.
@@brandonutterback3789 It's ok, you don't have to like everything. That would be not having a critical sense for things. But that mistake surely put Chris in a bad place, emotionally speaking.
I love how chris wrote back using a bible verse. Gave me goosebumps knowing his faith and what a swamp of satanic musicians on his same level of platform he had to deal with. He was murdered.. period. Him and Chester bennington were going to expose a lot. Chris was even working on a documentary human child trafficking etc. They are not the only ones that have lost there lives trying and about to expose the beast system.
'Scream' was pretty atrocious, but I hate that people think you always have to stay in your genre or niche. Everybody likes to change things up every now and then. -Unless you're in AC/DC.
Lol right, unless you're one of the most successful bands of all time......???
I don’t think he even had a niche to begin with. Soundgarden isn’t really “grunge” there’s no other alternative band that sounds anything like his stuff.
Yes you should change things, but that shouldn't come at the expense of making a dogshit album.
I think that Scream was great, but who am I just a black man.
@@MillionsofMax.s ?
All I know is that Chris and Trent are both pioneers and creative visionaries and I love them both. I'm very glad I got to see both tour together back in 2014 for the 20th anniversary of Superunknown and The Downward Spiral. RIP Chris.
Yes and unique in their own ways. I love them both
Yes, but one was a consummate Profesional musician who was a genuine honest person, and one was a good musician with a really shitty personality, who constantly criticizes other musicians and fans. I have always loved trent's music, and likely always will, but every interview I see with this guy turns me off more.
Reznor just took industrial music, EBM etc.. and commercialized it. Ruined the whole scene. And his voice is that of a sniveling little bitch. If anything he invented 'emo'.
Much respect for Chris for trying something new!! In my opinion, the title track “Scream” along with “Never Far Away” were really great songs...and I’m so glad that he recorded them.
Time was a good song and the hidden song Hope and Promise Fade 👍🏻
It's a great album in general. I know people hate on people/bands becoming radio friendly. But as father of 2 amazing sons - I really like these type of albums now because they become gateway albums for my kids to transition into really cool stuff. Sadly most great bands released these albums, the hate hits hard, and someone kills themself. We need to stop hating on music, and just realize that if we don't like it, it's not for us.
Right now my oldest son loves listening to Scream and One more light. One more light being one of his favorite albums. While these albums were slammed by the public, there is a 9 year old boy who loves them and a father who does too, together we are a better unit because of those albums. But because of the hate, our bias, our inflexible attitudes.....there will be no more from those bands of that caliber.
Albums are about love. If you don't love it - move onto the next. But keep you mouth shut. You don't know what consequences may happen if you don't let go and move on.
@@FarrFromPerfect plus, why does it have to be that he did it to be more radio friendly?
Why do they all assume it's impossible that Cornell genuinely liked the concept and wanted to expand, musically?
People's tastes change over the years.
They did a rock version on tour and it was damn good
Too bad Reznor and Cornell never collaborated on an album. That could have been awesome.
Yeah wheres the tapeworm project lol
Yeah, I love NIN and have since Broken, but Reznor's lost his passion in songwriting. I'd love for him to do more producer work or contributions to other projects in which he's not the focus.
@@jeffburns3240 God Break Down The Door is passionless to you? That's a crazy unique song.
Nah reznors not on his level
I'm grateful that I saw Soundgarden open for NIN for that tour. You just never know.
Trent has been my favorite since 1993. I believe that his music is his truth. He's strong enough to write and sing about it, which also makes him so relatable to many of his fans. Majority of my friends that I met at NIN concerts or social media respect him for sharing the dark parts of his life and most have been down the same roads as him.
Why Alessandro had to make the "depression" and "I'm so bummed" comments is flat out rude. Or am I an idiot and never, but should've, interpreted every song Trent wrote as happy times, make love not war (Get Down Make Love just came to mind) and be happy (you don't need to hurt yourself to feel)?
Trent's been through some incredible transformations. However, years ago, he had no problem destroying the equipment that failed him on stage (and I don't see that part of him anymore). He definitely seemed to be going through shit and it must be fuckin hard when you gotta be "on" and do a show. I'm so happy for him and how far he's come. How he has this beautiful family he deserves. But I feel for Chris too. Sadly we still live in a time where mental health issues can be looked at in a negative light ( my dad always said, it's a chemical imbalance and medication may be needed, just like a diabetic needs insulin). If the stigma was no longer there, maybe he could've been saved.
"In the case of Cornell, I don't know Chris. I do know what label he's on now and I do know who's whispering in his ear. And heavily on the With Teeth album, I turned that record in and I would get back "Hey you know, you might wanna... maybe we need to put some beats on this record."
I'm not making this up. "What do you mean beats?"
"Well this urban thing is really taking off. You'll get it in the club. You know, what if we had Dre or somebody..."
And the part of me that wants to be the open-minded artist says, "I'll consider that." I even went so far as Timbaland doing a, trying to do a, remix at Interscope's dime of "Hand That Feeds," which was laughably terrible. And when I turned in Year Zero, which I thought had the coolest beats I've ever come up with and I hear "Yeah, we need some cool beats," it's like "you know what, suck me."
And I'm sure there was someone whispering in Cornell's [ear] and he can put that off as some kind of sociocultural experiment, but what it was, was a money grab and when you do that you're saying to other people that look up to you, it's okay to do that and it's not okay to do that. It isn't."
-Reznor on the matter
He didn't hate Chris, he hated that Chris got tricked by a record company that had spent years trying to trick him into making the sort of album that Chris made; and Chris paid for it with his credibility. You may not like what Reznor releases now that he's grown up past screaming at God, but he never let a room full of men in suits with marketing graphs tell him which genres he should push into to maximize his monetary gain. He saw what Iovine was doing: interfering with his creative process (something he warned Iovine about all the way back in 1993) he saw the record company gouging his fans, he saw the writing on the wall and so he left the label as soon as he could, spending the next half a decade experimenting with new music distribution methods so that both artist and fans could benefit from.
He's not polite about it, Trent Reznor has never minced his words and it can make him look like an asshole in the moment, but was he really wrong? The music industry was on the verge of self-induced collapse, the time for niceties were long over. He was trying to save musicians and the music business from themselves. Calling Chris' album an embarrassment was the nicest thing he could have tweeted.
yeah at no point was anyone attacking Chris himself and I think Cornell got that. Reznor's an asshole but with a good heart, and I think Cornell was similar.
I don't know, I think one could argue against that being the nicest thing he could have tweeted, but good on Trent anyway, for being so much better than most people, yet still taking time out of his busy day to let us know he's better than us. He doesn't have to do that you know? He could have just left us blinded by our blissful ignorance, completely unaware of our inferior status, but NO, he's cool enough to give us little people a heads-up. The album was already paned by critics but just in case people missed it, Trent was there to let them know not to buy the album. Yeah, I'm sure Chris understood...
@@ChickSage He could have flat out called it what it was: a souless cash grab. He did it once to a re-release of Pretty Hate Machine. Chris got off light.
@@bigguy1164 Yeah, but it's not like Trent was required to release a public statement critiquing every album Chris released. Plus, when he shits all over another artist's art, it takes food off that artist's table, and he knows that. It's bad enough when a critic acts like he/she is some kind of authority. I can taste it myself and decide if it's good. Hey, it's America, dude can say whatever he wants, it just seems a bit excessive, like waiting for someone to fall down and break their ankle, before kicking their teeth out. They already have a broken ankle, so why not let them keep their teeth? :)
peace
@@datguitarplayer1656 I think he liked the idea of the album, but the execution left a lot to be desired. He was new on Interscope and wanted to be on Jimmy's good side. That rarely ends well, and it left what he wanted to do sounding artificial.
1:11 Chris' smile from this clip just makes me miss him more. Never did see SG, but did see 2 shows on TotD tour, amazing stuff. Some of Chris' music was hit or miss at times, but as a person I don't think there was a kinder person in all of music.
Chris was an amazing musician and singer ...at least he had class!
I agree but a lot of people dont realize how good of a person Trent is too
And human. Chris also was an amazing human being.
Killed himself with a kid at home. Ton of class there.
2:39
"and even Reznor's old IDOL Ministry's AL Jourgensen"
Fixed
You could say that he was an idol, but he was also an asshole to Trent, so it'd make sense to call them rivals also
If not for Ministry Trent would still be in Sham Bamboo.
"just one fix" ;0)
Well, Trent Reznor did have a point (though a bit harsh) and truly, quite good sportsmanship of him owning up and actually apologizing before the co-headliner.
Obviously it wasn't for commercial reasons, right Trent?
@Dan D he didn't publically apologise...so it wasn't for fan gratification.
Love both these guys. Seems like Reznor has always been a guy trying desperately to overcome dark instincts, realizing when he's been wrong and trying to make it better. Like his time recording at the Tate murder house, figuring out that's it's hurting people and changing. I always respect someone who can do that.
Yea and apologising in an email? That's a douche move
@@chadkase7580 seems like things were patched up well enough to tour together. You never know what conversations people have in private that don't get featured in TH-cam videos years later.
@@AI-mg3hy goth/industrial and grunge were rock and roll cousins as well.
@@chadkase7580 Whats he going to do drive all the way down to Chris's house and apologize?
@@hunteradams6783 yes
Chris Cornell was a monstrous, unique talent. He allowed himself to evolve artistically his entire career. "Scream" was an interesting experiment along the way and many of the songs are as melodically strong as anything else in his canon. I like when artists go outside their comfort zone without knowing where it will lead. I thought it was lame that so many people bagged on it simply because it wasn't Soundgarden or Audioslave or super "heavy." Reznor's comments sounded like jealousy and sour grapes. In my opinion Cornell ran circles around him in raw talent and songwriting. Plus innovation and experimentation.
"...should do some sort of urban thing". That is, to me at least, the biggest problem music has had over the last fifteen or so years. Everything that's even been mildly popular has been tainted with what the corporate a$$holes call "urban". If that's your style of music fine. Nothing wrong with the style, but it doesn't have to be in everything.
I love Nails and hip-hop, and I'm cool with them being seperate entities, save for the random Naz-X track. That one was well done.
Omg...this world is comming to an end ..it is official.
It's like every song on the radio was mixed in the same studio.
Completely agree, and I’m sick of every other song having the lawn sprinkler hi hat
What about Keith Urban? Does he get a pass?
Haven't watched the vid yet, but either the title is bullshit clickbait, or they squashed their beef at some point because the second time I saw Nine Inch Nails was a co-headlining show with Soundgarden. Anyway, time to watch.
Update: Ah, okay. that tour was mentioned at end. I didn't even know they had a feud. Damn. Now I wish they would have at least put out dis-albums back and fourth like rappers do when they got beef with each other.
I got both NIN and Soundgarden albums!
Why not like both?
Both are awesome but that solo was worst than Nu Metal
Sure that’s a no-brainer. The real question is, do you have Cornell’s solo album “Scream”? I didn’t even know it existed until I saw this video, and now I wish I hadn’t seen this video.
TestMeatDollSteak I remember my drummer brought in the CD during band practice. We were all excited. We put it on and noticed right away that this was the bullshit term, experimental, which in essence means, the artist knows it sucks and the label use that term to promote it as if this is a deep thing. It’s funny because when we moved into a new studio , we left the cd alone in the room.
Charles Ezra Rev Mongoose Canedo - Yes, that album definitely needs to be isolated away from human contact.
Huge Nails fan, and while I thought Soundgarden had a great rhythm section, I always hated Cornell's voice. Really can't stand it. Otherwise I 100% would've been a fan.
The man was an artist exploring new musical territory. Nothing wrong with that.
I agree with that statement. I also agree with those that think Scream is a terrible album. Some experiments don't pan out, unfortunately.
@@jeffburns3240 Nobody says everything needs to be a big success. Neil Young would agree with that.
I agree with that too. Thats what experimentation is all about. Some succeed, some don't.
As he did before! Euphoria Mourning is so different from his work on Soundgarden
@@gratao25 And it's things like this that make for a true artist. Who wants a recording artist to write the same album over and over? I may not go out and buy these albums, but im sure Chris knew that going in.
It's crazy how much I love both of these very different musicians
Celebrities needs to cut their thumbs off so their hands can’t type the 13 year old spouting 100 - word rants that twitter allows.. what a useless platform
Dang. And I thought we were original until I discovered Meth Lab Explosion
Chris Cornell was kind, generous and forgiving. He is dearly missed 💔💔💔
Have you done a story about this: November Rain” is based on the short story “Without You”, written by Del James and published in his book “The Language of Fear”. Axel wrote an intro to the book.
I thought scream was a really solid album, i still listen to it occasionally. Funny when people think an album is bad, they think their opinion is god.. im a big nin fan, but harsh comments are kinda unnecessary. How many albums on first listen are not great, then they grow on you in time.
I love them both. Very very VERY much. Chris was buried on my birthday and I will never forget that birthday. I cried for 4 days and didn't speak to anybody. I even took off work. It was like a piece of my childhood/teenage years was gone. 😭
Imagine if the Beatles stuck with the "I wanna hold your hand" sound without ever releasing Sgt. peppers?
Glad peoples musical tastes evolve.
Absolutely.... that is the process and function of art
Well this is a fine concept but I don't think it's a sufficient analogy. Cornell went hip hop because it was fashionable and could make him some money. The results were not another superunknown. The result was a forgettable piece of tripe.
@Rouge maybe if they stayed together Disco never wouldve happened.
@@daBEAGLE1017 you just blew my mind!
theres a vid here on youtube of an interview with John Lennon and he is getting pissed at the lady because she keeps wanting to talk about old stuff.....and i think this was after the beatles ended.....but he gives her a real blast of shit .....im paraphrasing.......Look love im glad you loved i wanna hold your hand but im all grown up now arent I??? And so are you!!! lmao worth checkin out
I love both of these two gorgeous musicians 🥰 good for Chris for taking the high road, and good for Trent for admitting his shade. 🖤🤟 Rock In Peace Chris 🌻
the record producers tried really hard to get the musicians of the 90s to sell out and i have loads of respect for trent for sticking to his art. just about every band eventually caves and does an album like that.
Right?
Sound garden had already sold millions of albums. Not sure how you sell out at that point.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m a huge fan of NIN, and he’s entitled to his opinion. However, I he was off here. Reznor is his own man, with his own life experience and integrity. Chris was a totally different person, honouring his own values and experience. While he was obviously a huge fan of rock music, he also had roots in black music, that most of his fans were probably unaware of the Fopp ep comes to mind. Covering an Ohio Players song even in 1988 was a risky move for a rock band, and people didn’t dig that either. If Reznor wants to pontificate about his own integrity and values, as they bear on his own life and output, respect. If he wants to apply that to someone else, fuck him. Music history is replete with examples of musicians that stepped out of their lane and took a chance to grow as an artist, to exercise another part of their musical self, to expose their fans to something they wouldn’t otherwise listen to. The thing is, the rock, hip hop, country clique thing is so high school. Great music, great artists stand on the universality of their work. You can have all the integrity in the world, but if you can’t find a way, and aren’t even willing to try to find new ways to connect with the widest possible audience, it renders you semi impotent. We are all human, with shared experiences and emotions. If a rock musician tries to find a way to indulge his musical influences, and communicate his experience and emotion to some other fan, how can that ever be wrong? Putting people in boxes they can’t get out of kills the spirit, and sometimes them as well.
Tl,dr
last Koresh Or can’t.
Thank you for this VERY well written and well thought out response. You summed this up perfectly.
Well said.
@@snw7159 Thank you, much appreciated. I realize anything beyond a couple lines seems to be beyond average attention spans, but my replies have never been directed at average readers. Thanks again.
Chris Cornell - The Greatest of All Time
Have you not heard Layne Staley
@@JaneDoe-sk5ps of course I have, I've got a tattoo of AIC on my arm too.
I have Cornell ahead of Staley, but have them both above Patton by a ways
@@chriskalifornia7333 my girlfriend's favourite singer is Mike Patton and mine is Chris Cornell but we both love Layne Staley. Good choice
@@soundgarden6478 cool you sound like an awesome couple peace to ya
We need more backstory on that Dre and Trent picture lol
I was 14 when scream came out and i was blown away by his vocals and the production on that album and I thought it was incredible. I think people where just stuck in there old ways and only liked the rock and metal stuff he did. He wanted to be experimental and try something new and I thought it was great.
Is doing what everyone else is doing in the pop world really experimental though? Cornell has always been something of an experimentalist and he never needed a big shot producer like Timberland to make great music
@@MySocksAreOnFire-b4c He tried making a pop on he stepped out of his realm and experimented. How is that not experimental for a guy who is done rock alternative metal and even dabbled in some folks kind of stuff does it mean I am trying to do a pop album if you even wanna call it that not experimental. The guy had a great seeing voice already so it’s not like he had to modify his voice to actually sound decent and I really wasn’t that typical pop kind of sound honestly the beats and the production didn’t even Have that traditional pop kind of vibe to it a lot of the songs work we’re deep
@@123JAILBREAKME you're making some points man if a well known pop star would have made the same record and released it, it would have be praised but having someone like CC whose been in the rock music industry his whole career and have him do it, it gets slandered on I honestly think that metal elitists are dumb asf to try and get an artist to stay where they have always been is just dumb to begin with, it's their music they should be able to do what they want and CC's solo work was more poppy sounding and experimental anyways so it's not much of a difference
Oof. Top 10 of our time? There isn’t 3 vocalist better for a heavy genre than Cornell. Dude was crazy talented.
Maynard??
@@reginasamilpa44 Lol no.
In terms of range Mike Patton is the only comparable one I can think of
Chris was and always will be. # fucking 1
Cornell is number 1 please they're good but he's another level as for Patton Cornell is three or 4 levels higher it's an insult to suggest they're around the same level they are clearly not
Sheeze Trent doesn’t even realize he’s been bought and sold over and over and over agin
For example, Head like a Hole was reworked (to the upbeat "On a Roll" version) for a Black Mirror episode where Miley Cyrus sang it throughout. He not only personally approved it but had black mirror referenced shirts with on his merch store. Not saying that's bad at all but yeah...
I heard (true or not) that when NIN was first trying to break away from their synth pop image that they sent out 5 different sounding demos to labels desperately trying to get signed, and the first one was the pretty hate sound. Again, don't know if it's true, but interesting story even though i much prefer his heroes Ministry.
@@rosxjun that's people who are covering his music tho.
@@rosxjun entirely besides the point, that's more about his having a sense of humor. I doubt the Black Mirror thing was based wholey on a monetary grab.
@@randblackwell8675 NIN was one person before the first album, Pretty Hate Machine was released. It was 100% Trent doing everything. I highly doubt he recored five different albums just to get signed. That doesn't show a tremendous amount of confidence in your work, and seems unlike him.
I was caught off guard the other night watching some Chris Cornell solo concert video by how different and un-rock the music is. Until about an hour into it when I realized how great his solo stuff really is. He’s confident and fearless and the music is both imaginative and catchy. You can tell he is making music for himself here and whoever wants along for the ride come along. Or don’t. But if you don’t you’re missing out on some really great music IMHE.
Everyone has a lull in making music. Chris had soooo more songs I listen to than most Artists. The Man is a Legend and His music always will be Legendary and Rockin!
I went to the 2014 tour show at PNC in NJ. Great show
Wild. I didn't even realize Cornell had a "disastrous" solo album. I've always been a soundgarden fan, Cornell had one of the most distinct voices in rock. He did an acoustic version of black hole sun on Howard Stern that is absolutely beautiful!
And he did it with his effortless but focused way, nothing remembering that he was a rock star in his behavior, only his out of this world talent. There is another video where HS remembers him and how he arrived that day and others days, smiling and saying hello to everyone. He didn't say anything but good things about Chris Cornell. And he was really in shock. He kept saying: there is no way that man killed himself, no way.
As a musician I like to expand my horizons. Can't see a problem with trying something new.
honestly
id really pissed that the "strobe light" thing isnt a thing I can buy
forcing all of those peeps into a room would probably make some interesting musoc
Great video god I miss Chris Cornell 😥
I actually did kind of come around to Scream. It’s definitely not on any favorites list, but it does have some aspects I like.
Meh, regardless of how they feel about cornell's solo album(not a big fan of his solo stuff in particular either)...it really seems like they are just jealous of the past especially since Trent basically said he was upset when superunknown took #1 in the 90s lol
Cornell’s first solo record is fantastic.
If you haven’t heard it you should give it a chance.
@@traviscarver4708 I have heard a couple songs off of it but it was a while ago, I will definetly give it another go and I have alot of respect for him
Yeah, I would've thought '94 era Trent wouldn't have given two shits about Billboard top ten.
Iroh the Wise
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He wrote some interesting chord progressions. This is an amazing track.
I would be upset too, Superunknown was pretty bad.
I saw that 2014 tour at sleep train amphitheater in Sac. Glad I caught it since C.C died a fee years later
I personally would have LOVED to have heard a real "Strobe Light" album. That lineup looked INSANE! Sell my info, Trent, I ain't usin' it!
Whoever thinks Chris wanted to be more radio friendly is wrong. Pretty sure that's not what Cornell had in mind when he worked on that album. When you listen to Soundgarden's discography, you can tell that they changed their style for every album. You won't find two albums that sound the same. Then you listen to Euphoria Morning and the difference is even more noticeable, obviously. Then comes Audioslave and a totally new musical style for him. Then came Carry On and his Michael Jackson cover, and then Scream where he went more pop and R&B. Then he went full acoustic and then came Higher Truth, which was another great album with new sonorities and melodies. My point is that Chris was a real artist who liked to explore new horizons and that's one of the reasons I love him so much. Trent's critics was just ridiculous and it sounds like he was just jealous of Cornell's success in the 90s.
Not sure I would call this a "feud". Anyway, great respect for Chris Cornell and Trent Reznor and I'm really glad I got to see Soundgarden on that tour with NIN. RIP Chris Cornell
Reznor's 2nd comment stating "Chris is above that" should have been his first comment about Cornell"s album.
RIP CHRIS, CHAZZY CHAZ, and Jeff Beck.
His first album from 1999 ‘Euphoria Mourning’ is amazing.
I saw the Nine Inch Nails / Soundgarden show in Toronto back in the 90s... it was so great
what a PETTY bs argument
not sure how a feud with Chris cornell is even possible?
I seemed to be a one sided feud. Even CC's response was making a point without being personal about it.
Well if the title of this video says it was a feud........... then it really must've been!!!!
They played shows together after this. Saw NIN and Soundgarden at Shoreline in 2014
@@MySocksAreOnFire-b4c - Hahaha, I love a good sarcasm! ;D
I loved the album - Guess what , you can like guitar based music AND electronic and Hip Hop music. It's only the innate snobbery and cooler than thou attitude of some folk that make them chat ignorant rubbish like that. Chris was a fearless artist and had deep respect for black music - both past and present. If you think otherwise, go and listen to an interview with Michael Beinhorn who produced "Superunknown" and listen to what his main influences are and what music he's was producing in the early 80's. Chris tastes were way broader than the music biz contrived "Rock" genre.
So glad I got to see SOUNDGARDENS very first reunion tour go around .. saw them at a very small paramount theater in Seattle .. but During the NIN Co tour.. wasnt Matt Cameron gone most of it? For Pearl Jam shows ?? Can’t imagine seeing SG without Matt behind the kit
I listened to Scream before I went to see Chris' solo show right after it was released. It wasn't my favorite but I appreciated the vibe, and to see Chris' show anyway. I didn't regret it.
Artists exploring is what make them honest, and artists. Chris kept true to just that, win or lose, it is all part of the journey. What Chris did was own that while others who were not as bold, criticized.
There’s nothing wrong with being super critical to a musician you admire for the work that they put out which is sub par if best. Glad that Chris handled it like the gentleman he is. RIP.
At the same time no artist owes it to you to stay in the same lane their whole career. Fans are bound to come and go and that's fine.
Consider doing a video on the Suicidal Tendencies and RATM feud. I can't seem to find any specifics about it other than the Infectious Grooves diss track. Thanks for all the work you put into the channel. Good content.
thanks! didn't know they had a feud will have to look into that.
That Mike Muir vs RATM is going to be hard to research. Yes, Infectious Grooves recorded a dis track. However; no member of RATM has ever commented on it and Mike Muir only says that he THINKS Tom Morello said stuff about Suicidal Tendencies. He never even states what he THOUGHT Tom said.
Good luck getting to the bottom of that one.
@G Lol this is not the crowd for a request on a video for those so-called "artists." Now, I can only speak for myself, but I'm pretty sure that no one else would really like a video like that, either.
Never understood why Chris got so much hate for that album. Yes, it’s definitely not one of my favorites, but I credit his creativity to try something new. Its not like he was rapping, he still sang on it.
The talent of Chris and Trent is not even comparable.
Silly Trent.
@the SUBMARINES you have a fortnight profile pic you shouldn't say shit little kid
Yes, Chris is the better vocalist, but they're comparable in every other aspect of songwriting.
Trent got best song for that stupid billy ray cyrus - old town road shit... so he can’t say jack
Trent is better, his stuff is more revolutionary. Cornell is great as well
@Susie X There's room for both of them. They both have produced incredible music. If you're interested in comparison, then how about Chad Kroeger and Scott Stapp.
It has already been 3 years since Chester and Chris’s deaths. Chester would have turned 44 and Chris would have been 55. Never forget these two legends dead too soon.❤️❤️❤️😭😢
This reminds me of the time I saw Pantera in July ‘96. At one point their singer bellowed “Don’t you hate it when your favorite band sells out?!” He was clearly referring to /MetallicA\, who had just cut their hair short & adopted a more melodic sound on the single “Until It Sleeps.” The crowd roared its approval. Two weeks later, at Lollapalooza at the same venue, I left right before /MetallicA\ came on in their headlining slot, due to being convinced they were now wimpy turncoats. I’ve still never seen them, and am mad I got emotionally tricked into abandoning them. (Both concerts were in New Orleans, the hometown of Pantera’s singer.)
Lol Metallica got old... could say the same for Phil with his hair metal shit
I saw Pantera many times from 95 - 2000 and I remember that as well! I believe it was the tour they did with White Zombie and Eye Hate God in 96' and yeah, he trashed Metallica pretty badly. Coincidentally he overdosed the next night after the show in Dallas but was revived by paramedics thankfully. He also apologized later on to Metallica, in point of fact.
Metallica was always shite anyways.
And that is crazy that you remember an exact month and year date that you saw a band that long ago. Maybe I’ve just seen too many bands play over the decades, but there’s no way in hell I could have a recollection like that for something that long ago. The best I can do is Lollapalooza ‘94 - couldn’t say a month!
I liked the album 'Scream'. 'Long Gone' is a wonderful song. I'm also a fan of SG and NIN.
Cornell coming off classy here as always.
damn Trent knows everybody & was involved w/ everything what a career
Scream was a really good album. From what I can gather, Chris Cornell wanted to try something new. You can hear the influence of Scream all through Higher Truth and on Patience, which lots of people praised. Maybe without scream, this album and song would of been a lot different. Food for thought.
Ha! I saw NIN and Soundgarden at the Shoreline in Mountain View...
Didn't know about this spat until now, but it was a great show!
Thanks for the video man, Love the content 👍
Trent Reznor vs Glen Danzig . Make it happen Dana White 😬
How about Trent Reznor vs Henry Rollins
Wouldn't Trent get the fuck beat out of him by either guy? Y'all must not like Trent lol
I've always wanted to see Rollins and Danzig go at it. Think it'd be a good one.
@@chadkase7580 Glen got old and fat where as Trent got his shit together and is jacked now. Also we know from the Northside Kings incident that Glen is a one punch chump.
@@revolutionday1 They are friends.
I've been a fan of Trent and Chris' for over 20 years (Chris happens to be my favourite singer/songwriter of all time) and I remember when Reznor said this I was like: "what a shitty attitude." Even though Scream is my least favourite Cornell album, I would never crap on another fellow artist for trying something new. Chris was not listening to anyone else (as Reznor states), he was the one who had the idea to try something new and to explore uncharted territory. He was the one who got everything rolling for this record. I think Reznor was projecting his own experience in the music industry (being told to change the music) onto Chris and assuming that was the case. If you watch interviews with Chris, he explains his reasons for Scream and how it came about. Reznor said it all with his first line "...I don't know Chris". Then he shouldn't have made assumptions before spewing b.s. in the press. Billy Corgan is another one that I lost all respect for after he trashed Soundgarden for reuniting for "another round at the till." These egomaniacs don't know when to be quiet. SP was one of my favourite bands until I saw Corgan in one of the post-original lineup iterations that he called Smashing Pumpkins (2008). He literally yelled at the crowd for chanting SP's hit titles (the tour was called THE HITS) and ranted about how he wasn't there to please the fans. It was the most awkward show I've ever been to. Chris Cornell on the other hand was a complete master on stage with Soundgarden in 2011 after their reunion, and they continued to make great music after that.
I haven't heard the Chris Cornell album "scream". But I know that AFI did a great job going into the electronic sound with 'Cex Cells'. So yea, maybe it is not too bad. I'll be giving it a listen sometime. I, surprisingly, never even knew about all this.
They did
I wish I was able to see NIN & Soundgarden together back in 2014. That co-headlining tour seemed as badass as the KISS & Mötley Crüe tour, plus it got praised reviews
I went through a very painful divorce back in 2009 and I played the song Long Gone over and over again. RIP forever missed. Trent not so much.
They had a bit of a rivalry with Soundgarden and NIN competing for the #1 album on the charts in 94 with Superunknown keeping The Downward Spiral from getting the top slot. But they obviously mended any differences they had considering they toured together in 2014. I saw three shows on that tour. It was great.
What was the beef with Ministry?
I've always respected artists who take a dare and do something left field, of what they normally do. God rest you Chris.🙏
I don't really care what Trent Reznor has to say at any point in time.... especially when it comes to the best voice in Rock history!
😂 bro trent is a better singer, producer, and artist then cornell ever was. (imo)
Maynard Keenan?
At least he was able to put differences aside and apologize before Cornell had died. That's probably the most important thing about this to Reznor. Because he would probably be haunted by it everyday if he didn't.
Man, I went to that co headlining tour in Atlanta in 2014. First time seeing both bands. Soundgarden was good. Fell in love with NIN that night though
Scream wasn't a bad album. "Scream", "Never Far Away" and "Take me Alive" are all good songs.
Nin is Kinda flat still music that doesn’t really go anywhere. Chris Cornell’s music all around is amazing. CC was also full of life when Trent didn’t inspire me at all.
Trent was wrong. He thought Chris was selling out and doing what sold records and what the public wanted. But actually he was doing that with Soundgarden. Because we all loved his scream and his rock voice. But Chris was a man of many tastes and he loved funk. He wanted to do something different. He had already made it he was branching out and doing so many different things with his life. he had a restaurant, he had different charities he was involved with ... He could do whatever he wanted and he chose to do this album. I liked it. I thought it was fun. It was different. I wished he came out with a CD of children's lullabies cuz I would have bought that too LOL in fact my ex's kids requested to go to sleep every night listening to Euphoria morning. He wasn't a sell-out. He did whatever he damn well pleased. I miss him and listen to his music every day❤❤❤🎶🎵
Yup, Scream was a terrible record. The only bad record Chris ever made. It was still about as punk rock as can be. Chris went against all that people thought of him by doing that record and never complained at all about the negative response. He just carried on like the class act he was. I too hated that album and made jokes to my friends about it but no matter how bad Scream is, everything else he recorded is solid gold. He most definitely gets a pass from me for trying something completely outside of his comfort zone.
euphoria morning was pretty far from solid gold....
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@@TheBetabox in your opinion. That happens to be my favorite record he did.
Wow...you lemmings a absolutely WORSHIPPING at the altar of Cornell, huh? You guys also think DOTU was the best Soundgarden record??
@@TheBetabox no, I like DOTU but its not my favorite. I do enjoy pretty much all of his work and no, I don't worship him. I just think he was a infinitely more graceful public figure than Trent. Does it bother you, my opinion?
Has Trent listened to the music he has made latley?
When did he become a critic instead of a musician?
Facts.
Cornell's last solo outing is far superior NINs last output.
Hate to say it, but as a huge Nails fan they haven't put out much of anything that I've cared for since the Slip. A track here or threre (the Twin Peaks bit was pretty awesome), but as for solid album efforts I cant listen to them start to finish like everything else. Hesitation Marks was pretty bad imo. Ghosts I-VI I also enjoyed, as NIN's instrumental stuff has always been some of my favorites.
@@Axolotl_Mischief How can you be a NIN fan and not like Bad Witch?
@Aidan King Again, how can you be a NIN fan and not like Bad Witch? It not being your thing does not make sense if you're a NIN fan. Now albums like The Slip or Hesitation Mark I understand, maybe some other less ambitious albums, but Bad Witch is one of the most interesting albums Trent has ever made.
Interesting to see how pervasive immaturity on the internet is; it has literally zero discrimination.
We love you Chris ❣️. All I can say
If anyone else did that record as if it was their debut it would have been fine, it was just we know and love Chris and his rock past.
Two of my favs
What you're talking about wasn't the first time Nine Inch Nails and Soundgarden shared a bill. Those two bands were on a tour with Marilyn Manson and Reverend Horton Heat in 1994 too.
Love Trent and Chris but I only clicked because the 4:20 time stamp
Call me a madman, but i think once you get over the initial trauma, the songwriting in Scream ends up being pretty good. Yeah, it's not a sound we'd expect from Chris, and i don't think it totally works in that record, but the songs are good enough that it makes it really tolerable to me. A very underrated record
A feud takes 2 participants, this was Reznor behaving like a 13 year old girl on her first day on Twitter. Continuing to criticize repeatedly afterwards, then wimping out with an email apology makes him look a real douche. I'm glad Chris didn't bite on Reznor's juvenile trolling, he was always a class act and one of the most popular and beloved among his peers.
Life long Soundgarden fan here and I enjoy 50% of what Reznor puts out( he will never top ‘The Fragile’). IMO
I saw Soundgarden open for NIN August 11 2014 in tampa, same day Robin Williams died. They both did well.
Hopefully someone will say something to Reznor about his 3 latest albums, yeesh
If they do they better prepare for the pitchforks being thrown at them when Trent Reznor dies
Never knew there was even a feud.
Btw the footage you use at 1:03 and at the end, is Chris being interviewed after Pinkpop festival here in Holland in '92. Fantastic show, was a fan for life after that. But the interviewer was pretty stupid, asking Chris why they'd play so loud. And if noise is good for a wet rainy day. lol th-cam.com/video/GedeYnlQlY4/w-d-xo.html
The beats on year zero are definitely dope. It’s the first thing i noticed when I heard it for the first time
One of the 10 best vocalists............wtf yeah i don't think so. Chris had the best rock voice period. There will never be another Chris Cornell. Rip brother!!
I want to know who the other 9 vocalists are on Reznor's top 10.
Why is it that Reznor calling Chris Cornell "one of the 10 best vocalist of our generation" seems like a sleight?
Ego, I’m sure....
Enjoy everything I’ve ever heard by Chris Cornell!
Maybe the album wasnt perfect but many of his solo records are stunning