*Great little trolling motor **enjoyable.fishing** recommend had it hooked up to my 15 foot old town canoe and it pushed it pretty good with me and my son (220 pounds each).*
I love the features and design on the motorguide unit. The electric/cable steering is such a great idea. Having a wireless or even wired unit in the back at the same time would be a cool idea for one of them to add.
This has been very helpful. Thank you. Any commentary/reviews on the Force and its dependability. It's been out for a couple years, but there is lack of reviews outside of sponsored pros. Thanks again,
Yes I've used them on friends boats and most of them have had no issues. But I know a few people who had foot pedal issues. I personally still the Ghost had the best design .
I think it is refreshing to see more options in the trolling motor market. Competitiveness drives innovative products to be developed, so in the long run, the consumers will benefit in terms of features and technology offered. (At a price of course) I currently own an Ultrex but waiting on the Lowrance Ghost to arrive. And once it is installed will formulate my own opinion.
I have had many boats in the 40 years of fishing new and used. And have always had Minn Kota and Humminbird and have never repeat never had any problems. Some of the used boats come with motor guide and Lawrence but were upgraded to kotas and birds. This year new helix 9 and 7 and terrova for the old girl. Just my 2 cents
I'm delighted with your good luck with Minn Kota, but I've had nothing but sorrow and pain dealing with Minn Kota Rip Tide that should be called Rip Off. Maybe they just sent their worst people to the assembly line for those things, but I've had two and both have been regular failures. I'm watching this video with the intent to never buy anything else from Minn Kota.
Great comparison rundown! Based on my comparisons and some interesting things you brought up I feel the Garmin's is all around best bang for the buck. By the time you add a few bells and a whistle to the ghost you exceed the cost of the force. And bluetooth is a HUGE bonus. My new boat will have the force and may the force be with you:).
Thank you, I want to upgrade my trolling and graphs this year, I thought I wanted the ULTEX and switch from Lowrance graphs to Hummingbird, I'm so confused! I demoed the Ghost at the FLW CUP in 2019, now .... GARMIN,and their graphs!! Lots of decisions to make for such a chunk of change to upgrade, just wanted to get the most for my money. Thank you!
I just outfitted my bassboat this past winter. Nothing was said to me about the new trolling motors. Im still very happy with my fortrex . Old motor was 24 volt edge. It was also very good. I use these motors all day long and have never failed me.
I prefer the cable steer motors myself over the traditional electric steer, but these hybrids like the Ultrex, Force and Ghost are a great mix of both so you can take advantage of the GPS features
My pick would be the Ghost. I've run the tour MotorGuide and currently run Minn Kota. If the motor guide were brushless, I might consider going back. My unites are Lawrence so it makes sense to go with the Ghost.
Make sure you're ok with the level of noise underwater from the Ghost. It's the loudest one even with a brushless motor. That's the main reason I'm passing on the Ghost. For 3k I would expect it to be as quiet as any other.
@@BVDsGoneFishing not sure why I’m just seeing your response now. 😂 I agree, for 3K it better be quiet as a mouse 🐭. I spent over 2K for my touring and that was well over 10 years ago. Can’t Believe we are even considering paying 3K for any trolling motor.
There is a video out showing how the Lowrance is very loud under water so that would take it out of the running for me. The wireless feature on the Garmin seems awesome, but if i had to pick one now it would be the motor guide. It is simple, quiet, robust and works with any electronics.
All I know is I have ran traditional trolling motors, and I ran my buddies ultrex one day while we were out and all I can say is wow. The spot lock alone is worth three price to me. I will be buying one. Another feature I really like is the ease of steering, you barely touch the foot pedal and it responds, very quickly. I will have one before spring
Been using an ultrex for 2 years and love it. Never had an issue with it, but the steering cables are known to snap on them. Garmin eliminated that issue with the wireless pedal. Garmin GPS tech is A1 as well. Great video, thanks!
4 years later, any Garmin people out there? Looking to upgrade trolling motor and graphs. Leaning more and more to Garmin. You guys happy with their products?
Minn Kota all the way. I’m on my third ultrex (not bc they break but bc I upgrade often) I love the motor and I don’t see myself ever switching from minn Kota and humminbird
From what I have seen Ultrex is still what most guys are buying despite these new motors. I look forward to Minn Kota's next version to see what they have coming.
They all have there own perks depending on graphs. But the problem is the pricing on these have gotten out of control. I will always be years behind. I refuse to pay these prices
If garmin does a self deploy/stow motor like the ulterra I will buy in heart beat. I'm a true believer in Garmin top to bottom have livescope in bass boat and on my dedicated catfish/striper/crappie boat with 126sv ultras bow and console on both boats. Would love to have that product from Garmin especially for my big boat for striper/catfish/crappie fishing. Hopefully they try to match/beat minn kota's ulterra
I got to see the LOWRANCE up close and personal at this year's FLW CHAMPIONSHIP TOURNAMENT in HOT SPRINGS Arkansas. Wow! Outstanding, biggest disappointing fact was the short shaft! If LOWRANCE comes up with options for a 52 & 60" shaft they definitely will have the edge IMHO
Agreed on the shaft, but short is the most popular for the target market on these things. Hopefully when the longer version comes out that'll open them up to the Great Lakes and Deep Vee markets
I've had both knees worked on, I'm looking for my next unit to have auto deploy as it's a struggle to have to climb upon the front of the boat like I used to. I fish alone 90% of the time!
Costs less because it isn't brushless, variable voltage, and doesn't have some of the features the Force has. It'll do the job though, and it should be less due to the features it doesn't have
Nice video highlighting the various features. I ordered a Ghost and I’m hoping that it’s going to be as awesome as it looks. I do wish they would show us what the optional remote looks like. They have also changed the foot pedal to now having 3 programmable buttons vs only 2, not sure I like losing the heading up feature. Hopefully, being fly by wire, the heading up button won’t be needed.
They changed the buttons? I didn't hear that. Hopefully you can program one to heading lock because that is a nice feature. You are right though with the electric steer it probably wouldn't be needed unless you have a wind/waves to move you.
I bought the Garmin because their units are head and shoulders above Lowrance and Hummingbirds in a very short amount of time. And Lowrance customer service is a joke.
They are behind right now, but that company does have a great track record of innovation so hopefully their response will get them to where the competition is.
Lack of auto deploy/stow and auto trim is a deal-breaker for inshore skinny saltwater with hard, irregular bottom. I’d like to see the Riptide Ulterra go brushless and get capacity for more stored tracks.
You said that the "Lowrance is the best value, if you can deal with the short shaft and no side imaging" But right in the chart that you circle it says that you can have side up front. Also Lowrance has a 3n1 nose cone that can be installed on it.... Just an FYI. I'm hoping to install 2 HDS and their trolling motor by spring. Great job breaking these down. I'd love to see a head to head to head to head when they all are finally on the store shelves!
Yes but AI 3in 1 doesn't come standard. When you have to buy the new nose cone you are at the price of the Garmin. In that case you would really have to decide which offers more.... Garmin comes with UHD and a Remote along with Gesture controls... So then I'm not sure the Ghost is the best value.
Hi am sure since you recorded this video 2 yrs ago there new products in the market plz try to create new release for current market product this is a nice video
I have not, but nothing has changed since this video came out other than Lowrance offering a 52 and 60 inch shaft length. The 60 inch comes with their remote while the 47 and 52 it is an option
@@winningfamily7527 I'm glad you have had better luck than me. It's rare I can go three years without an issue stopping me from fishing for weeks. Two small motor guide motors on a 2010 boat which is all I use for movement have never had an issue.
They all look like good motors, but I am a humminbird guy so I prefer Minnkota because they are compatible between each other and I am pretty sure that Minnkota will also come with brushless motor soon.
Waiting for my tour pro to come in. I got a deal through my local bass club that I couldn't pass up. Plus I'm still running an old tour series from the early 2000s now.
I am so confused. Lol I think Motor guide and Minn Kota will have brushless technology soon. One thing I don't like about my current trolling motor is how much it spooks fish, and it is no where near as loud as the Minn Kota. I would like a cable steer, no transducer in the head, anchor feature, remote option, and brushless motor. Around 80lbs thrust.
I have no idea to be honest. I have had a motorguide ix5 on a 2014 DLV198. 2 had gave out on me. 1st one was blowing the 30amp fuse that was factory installed. The replacement started to do the same thing. So they increased to a 50amp. Motor cuts in and out and the power cable is rotting. Only used the 2nd motor about 4 time the past 4 years. So the 3rd replacement not be a motorguide. Looking at the reviews on Minn kota's I may shy away from them.
Minn Kota has proven reliability and great customer support. Other than maintenance I’ve had zero reliability issues. Can’t say the same for Motorquide. I’ve owned two, both lemons, never again, even if they gave me one.
@@InDepthSonar I fish mostly the Susquehanna river, works for my method of fishing witch usually is pull along, banks, islands, cover etc, current is always holding the boat in one direction, so when you hit the spot lock you pretty much are sitting is if you had an anchor out, but without the commotion of throwing one out, then you can turn spot lock off drift another 20/30 foot of water and spot lock again for a few minutes, allows you to cover an immense amount of water far quicker and quieter than with an anchor and you don't have to do anything, formerly I didn't use my trolling motor much for anything other than positioning the boat in a drift or to get into a spot to drop anchor.
Thank you so much for this. Much more info than I was looking for, which is great. Died laughing when I saw those prices! Some of those cost more than my boat and graphs together! LOL
I’m pretty sure you left out the remote for the Lowrance.. Maybe I’m wrong.. But I think they have a remote that you can just point for your direction... Wireless...
1st generation products are a hit or miss. Stick with a mature and reliable product IMO. I'm intrigued with the Garmin product, wireless and brushless, but for now I will stick with a company that has been making trolling motors since Ive known fishing. Ultrex has been in good service for 2 seasons going to a 3rd.
Minn Kota is proven. Garmin is a solid company so I trust them. MotorGuide is owned by Mercury....makes me think. Lowrance lists "reliable" as their number 1 selling feature of this motor. Who does that on an unproven product? Especially a company with their track record of "reliable" products. I like the Lowrance best on paper, but how will they hold up?
I wish I could combine the force and ghost together. I was leaning ghost but after hearing the transducer can't do above 800 KHZ, I'm leaning garmin. That and eventually I want to get livescope so it makes sense.
I still have the 2019 minn kota terrova ipilot and love it. No need to spend 3k, well if you're wealthy n money is not an issue so yeah the the best thing on the market hahaha. I love the Garmin because of the wireless connection brushless motor.
This is a great video. Have you done any kind of update in the last couple of years? Has there been a trend in which one of these options have done well? I've only used/seen the Minn Kota and Lowrance setups, but it seems like the Garmin is/was the most technologically advanced. Are there any issues with the throughput of the wireless system Garmin is using?
Seems like there have been a few hiccups with the Garmin and Lowrance along the way, but overall they are still the best two out there today. MotorGuide Tour Pro finally came out just this year and haven't used that one or had feedback. If its a budget motor you're looking for then the Ultrex is a great choice
I just purchased a Sun Tracker Fishin' Barge 22 DLX pontoon boat and need a fishing package. I am looking at the Motor guide Lowrance Pinpoint GPS system. This package include the Motorguide Xi5 with the Lowrance Elite 9 fish finder. I'll be looking for brush piles and trolling along the banks. With your experience will this be a good fishing package or should I go with something else?
No mention about the HASWING Cayman GPS motor?! That is strange because Haswing's market share is just huge! We sell everyday to European fishermen all the way from Spain to Greece. Thanks.
Hey Lawren, thanks for your video, I know the posting is over a year old! Not mentioning Rhodan? I am looking at 120Lbs of trust and 84" length, boat weights easily 5500 wet, I don't need more transducers than I already have, I think the remote control seems a good control option. what's your take on it?
IF you see the other comments on why I don't compare Rhodan you'll understand. They don't make a trolling motor that is in the same class as these ones. Plus I feel like anyone who comments on these videos about Rhodan either works for the company or is paid to comment on social media to gain exposure for Rhodan
Great review, which of these Trolling Motors are saltwater compatible. I'm really taken by the Garmin unit especially but I've seen on Garmin's site, I believe that it is a freshwater version and I also believe this to be true because all previous Electric Trolling Motors have been colour coded, Black motors for freshwater whereas the White is for saltwater use. If this is true, do you know if Garmin plans on releasing a saltwater version in the future?
I haven't heard of any plans for any of the brands to release a saltwater version of these motors. However, both Lowrance and Garmin have said if things go well with them, then we can expect an expanded line. That may include a SW model, but who knows at this point. Yes, you are correct in White being SW and Black being FW for Minn Kota and MotorGuide
@@InDepthSonar Thanks for the reply, might be the last thing these companies will be worried about as the world could be heading into a depression and not just a recession as first believed. I might have to stick to MinnKota for now or just hold off until we see how things turn out... stay safe.
this was ver informative for me as Im looking at a bow mount motor and its very confusing concerning the technology part, I have the lowrance elite chirp so probably leaning towards the lowrance ghost although the price is a little hot, also theres no hand held spot lock convienience, good info thanks
The Ulterra isn't in the same class as these motors. Ulterra is electric steer, where these are going after the cable steer (bass) market and adding the GPS features of the electric steer motors. You'd want to compare the Power Drive, Terrova, Ulterra, Xi3 and Xi5 to each other.
I’m in the market for a new trolling motor and I’m interested in the Lowrance ghost but I saw a video from Glenn May from bass resource he had an underwater camera on it and it was very loud compared to others what do you think is it a problem they may have fixed or is it still loud
Thank you for all your videos. I watch your video regarding fishfinders. I am considering putting a Garmin uhd73v at the helm and bow for my only fish finders. I probably will not network them, nor by the livescope at this time. I want your opinion if I should by both or put a Lowrance TI2 at the bow. Thank you in advance.
It's get the Garmin over the Lowrance in that case. Or wait a couple weeks and see if Lowrance has anything new coming out that would be a good fit for you. You should know by December 5th
Yeah I hope to see the same! 45" or so is the best seller by far and these motors really target bass boats so you can't blame them this early on. Hopefully if things go well we'll see longer ones.
Nothing is accurate with Fish ID lol. Fish ID is just the unit taking its best guess that there is a fish. Any sonar return could show up as a fish on a Lowrance, Garmin, Raymarine, or Humminbird. It could be a walrus, a dead porcupine or a fish
Love the technological advances, but you pay for it. On top of the trolling motor, AGM batteries at $350. a pop!!! The way this is going, no will be able to afford a trolling motor.
Mix and match isn't good, unless you have two separate networks...but soon you'll see there is no reason to mix and match. Watch Garmin in the next couple weeks.
Lowrance just nailed the design over the Garmin. The cable management, the depth adjustment collar, the size of the Mount. But I hear you on the Garmin features
Longevity!!! I need proof these things will hold up. Especially when paying a small fortune for them. I know some are in the shop more than the water. And that's pure crap for the price you have to pay.
*Great little trolling motor **enjoyable.fishing** recommend had it hooked up to my 15 foot old town canoe and it pushed it pretty good with me and my son (220 pounds each).*
enjoyable.fishing is a spam website isn't it?
I love the features and design on the motorguide unit. The electric/cable steering is such a great idea. Having a wireless or even wired unit in the back at the same time would be a cool idea for one of them to add.
This has been very helpful. Thank you. Any commentary/reviews on the Force and its dependability. It's been out for a couple years, but there is lack of reviews outside of sponsored pros. Thanks again,
Yes I've used them on friends boats and most of them have had no issues. But I know a few people who had foot pedal issues. I personally still the Ghost had the best design .
I think it is refreshing to see more options in the trolling motor market. Competitiveness drives innovative products to be developed, so in the long run, the consumers will benefit in terms of features and technology offered. (At a price of course) I currently own an Ultrex but waiting on the Lowrance Ghost to arrive. And once it is installed will formulate my own opinion.
I have had many boats in the 40 years of fishing new and used. And have always had Minn Kota and Humminbird and have never repeat never had any problems. Some of the used boats come with motor guide and Lawrence but were upgraded to kotas and birds. This year new helix 9 and 7 and terrova for the old girl. Just my 2 cents
I'm delighted with your good luck with Minn Kota, but I've had nothing but sorrow and pain dealing with Minn Kota Rip Tide that should be called Rip Off. Maybe they just sent their worst people to the assembly line for those things, but I've had two and both have been regular failures. I'm watching this video with the intent to never buy anything else from Minn Kota.
Now that is how you do a review. Answered questions I didn't even know I had and you kept it simple. Subscribing!!!!
Glad it helped you out!!! Thanks for the sub
Great comparison rundown! Based on my comparisons and some interesting things you brought up I feel the Garmin's is all around best bang for the buck. By the time you add a few bells and a whistle to the ghost you exceed the cost of the force. And bluetooth is a HUGE bonus. My new boat will have the force and may the force be with you:).
After getting a chance to use them I agree the Force is incredible
Thank you, I want to upgrade my trolling and graphs this year, I thought I wanted the ULTEX and switch from Lowrance graphs to Hummingbird, I'm so confused! I demoed the Ghost at the FLW CUP in 2019, now .... GARMIN,and their graphs!! Lots of decisions to make for such a chunk of change to upgrade, just wanted to get the most for my money. Thank you!
I put the ultrex on my boat this spring and have zero regrets.. it's done everything I've asked it to do..
They are all good. Garmin offers some great features the others don't for sure. Nothing wrong with an Ultrex for some $$$ savings.
Great video. I have gone full Lowrance, including matching Ti2 graphs!! Love it!
Nice!!
Well the Garmin is what I'm buying after hearing the noise from the Lowrance makes , motor guide isnt quiet either.
Yeah that video is quite interesting
I just outfitted my bassboat this past winter. Nothing was said to me about the new trolling motors. Im still very happy with my fortrex . Old motor was 24 volt edge. It was also very good. I use these motors all day long and have never failed me.
I prefer the cable steer motors myself over the traditional electric steer, but these hybrids like the Ultrex, Force and Ghost are a great mix of both so you can take advantage of the GPS features
Nice video!
I'll stick with what i had in mind before listening to this. I'll go full Lowrance on my boat.
Good choice!
My pick would be the Ghost. I've run the tour MotorGuide and currently run Minn Kota. If the motor guide were brushless, I might consider going back. My unites are Lawrence so it makes sense to go with the Ghost.
Make sure you're ok with the level of noise underwater from the Ghost. It's the loudest one even with a brushless motor. That's the main reason I'm passing on the Ghost. For 3k I would expect it to be as quiet as any other.
@@BVDsGoneFishing not sure why I’m just seeing your response now. 😂 I agree, for 3K it better be quiet as a mouse 🐭.
I spent over 2K for my touring and that was well over 10 years ago. Can’t Believe we are even considering paying 3K for any trolling motor.
There is a video out showing how the Lowrance is very loud under water so that would take it out of the running for me. The wireless feature on the Garmin seems awesome, but if i had to pick one now it would be the motor guide. It is simple, quiet, robust and works with any electronics.
I really like the motorguide as well, just the price point needs to be a little lower in my opinion.
All I know is I have ran traditional trolling motors, and I ran my buddies ultrex one day while we were out and all I can say is wow. The spot lock alone is worth three price to me. I will be buying one. Another feature I really like is the ease of steering, you barely touch the foot pedal and it responds, very quickly. I will have one before spring
I agree...they aren't cheap, but spot lock makes it worth it for sure.
Upgraded from my 30# MK that maxed out at 3mph. This pushes my pelican pwr 100 at 4.5mph which is nuts since the pwr is a slow yak
I have alot of respect for your reviews
Thanks a lot! I appreciate that :)
Been using an ultrex for 2 years and love it. Never had an issue with it, but the steering cables are known to snap on them. Garmin eliminated that issue with the wireless pedal. Garmin GPS tech is A1 as well. Great video, thanks!
Glad you liked the video. I have heard of a few issue with the Ultrex, but for the amount that are out there I say they are pretty good.
4 years later, any Garmin people out there? Looking to upgrade trolling motor and graphs. Leaning more and more to Garmin. You guys happy with their products?
Looking forward to the Lowrance motor on my rig. Still waiting for delivery! Put my downpayment on it along with the elite ti2 for the bow.
I heard they are going to be shipping soon. That'll be a nice setup with the Ti2
@@InDepthSonar early October is what I was told.
The minnkota terrova is really nice because you can get the ipilot link features at suck a low price.
Yes, but not a cable steer (or attempt to be one) motor so that's why I didn't include it.
We need an update on these
Staying with Minn Kota on the new Ranger. Haven't had any issues in the past, don't expect any issues in the future...
They are the proven most reliable motor.
Minn Kota all the way. I’m on my third ultrex (not bc they break but bc I upgrade often) I love the motor and I don’t see myself ever switching from minn Kota and humminbird
From what I have seen Ultrex is still what most guys are buying despite these new motors. I look forward to Minn Kota's next version to see what they have coming.
They all have there own perks depending on graphs. But the problem is the pricing on these have gotten out of control. I will always be years behind. I refuse to pay these prices
Pricing has got up there for sure. Hopefully with all this competition it will bring the pricing down. But so far its just raised it so who knows...
If garmin does a self deploy/stow motor like the ulterra I will buy in heart beat. I'm a true believer in Garmin top to bottom have livescope in bass boat and on my dedicated catfish/striper/crappie boat with 126sv ultras bow and console on both boats. Would love to have that product from Garmin especially for my big boat for striper/catfish/crappie fishing. Hopefully they try to match/beat minn kota's ulterra
I got to see the LOWRANCE up close and personal at this year's FLW CHAMPIONSHIP TOURNAMENT in HOT SPRINGS Arkansas. Wow! Outstanding, biggest disappointing fact was the short shaft! If LOWRANCE comes up with options for a 52 & 60" shaft they definitely will have the edge IMHO
Agreed on the shaft, but short is the most popular for the target market on these things. Hopefully when the longer version comes out that'll open them up to the Great Lakes and Deep Vee markets
Except they sound like a single prop airplane trying to take off underwater
Shaft length should be measured from deck of boat where the trolling motor mounts to the center of prop.
Garmin force is actually only 36 ".
I've had both knees worked on, I'm looking for my next unit to have auto deploy as it's a struggle to have to climb upon the front of the boat like I used to. I fish alone 90% of the time!
I've had the Minn Kota ulterra for the last 2 years and love it, definitely saved my back!
And it costs less than lowrance or Garmin
Costs less because it isn't brushless, variable voltage, and doesn't have some of the features the Force has. It'll do the job though, and it should be less due to the features it doesn't have
Nice video highlighting the various features. I ordered a Ghost and I’m hoping that it’s going to be as awesome as it looks. I do wish they would show us what the optional remote looks like. They have also changed the foot pedal to now having 3 programmable buttons vs only 2, not sure I like losing the heading up feature. Hopefully, being fly by wire, the heading up button won’t be needed.
They changed the buttons? I didn't hear that. Hopefully you can program one to heading lock because that is a nice feature. You are right though with the electric steer it probably wouldn't be needed unless you have a wind/waves to move you.
I bought the Garmin because their units are head and shoulders above Lowrance and Hummingbirds in a very short amount of time. And Lowrance customer service is a joke.
Dennis Griffin I’m going full Garmin on my next boat👌
@@Lbz_on_crack Full Garmin is cheaper than the other two also
Garmin dominates salt. They perfected the salt water equipment and now are coming in swinging for freshwater market. Garmin seems to be the choice.
Minn Kota is dead in the water, major fail not keeping up with competition and product development.
They are behind right now, but that company does have a great track record of innovation so hopefully their response will get them to where the competition is.
Nope.. My money tree says NO :(
Have a Minn Kota Ipilot. Awesome. Can't fish/boat without it.
Yeah once you go in a boat that doesn't have Spot Lock you lose your mind haha
I like the idea of the tour pro because I can run multiple systems on my boat. Not limited to one brand.
They are a very nice motor but a little overpriced! Also, are they even out yet? We haven't seen them in Canada at this point
Which of these competing brands have the better CUSTOMER SERVICE??? THAT is all I gotta know.
Lack of auto deploy/stow and auto trim is a deal-breaker for inshore skinny saltwater with hard, irregular bottom. I’d like to see the Riptide Ulterra go brushless and get capacity for more stored tracks.
The saltwater market has been left out of the brushless motors at this point but hopefully they do bring them over there for 2022
I have the garmin force and love it
What size shaft did you go with?
Me too!!
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You said that the "Lowrance is the best value, if you can deal with the short shaft and no side imaging" But right in the chart that you circle it says that you can have side up front. Also Lowrance has a 3n1 nose cone that can be installed on it....
Just an FYI.
I'm hoping to install 2 HDS and their trolling motor by spring.
Great job breaking these down. I'd love to see a head to head to head to head when they all are finally on the store shelves!
Yes but AI 3in 1 doesn't come standard. When you have to buy the new nose cone you are at the price of the Garmin. In that case you would really have to decide which offers more.... Garmin comes with UHD and a Remote along with Gesture controls... So then I'm not sure the Ghost is the best value.
Nobody beats the ALMIGHTY Ultrex!
Reliable and great value
You really know your trolling motors. Thank you for the knowledge shared.
No problem thanks for watching
Hi am sure since you recorded this video 2 yrs ago there new products in the market plz try to create new release for current market product this is a nice video
Actually nothing has changed. The only difference is the Lowrance Ghost you can now get in a 52" and 60" shaft length
Have you done or is there a more recent comparison done and where can I view it? This is very well done.
I have not, but nothing has changed since this video came out other than Lowrance offering a 52 and 60 inch shaft length. The 60 inch comes with their remote while the 47 and 52 it is an option
I agree , it just makes since now
I love the competition. I'm looking forward to the costs hopefully coming down some before my Minn Kota Rip Off breaks again.
Motorguide screwed me I will only use minnkota now 7 yrs no problems
@@winningfamily7527 I'm glad you have had better luck than me. It's rare I can go three years without an issue stopping me from fishing for weeks. Two small motor guide motors on a 2010 boat which is all I use for movement have never had an issue.
They all look like good motors, but I am a humminbird guy so I prefer Minnkota because they are compatible between each other and I am pretty sure that Minnkota will also come with brushless motor soon.
Yes I expect a brushless Minn Kota next year as well. Or hopefully sooner at ICAST this year
Waiting for my tour pro to come in. I got a deal through my local bass club that I couldn't pass up. Plus I'm still running an old tour series from the early 2000s now.
I loved my 109 Tour Edition. Such a great motor
I am so confused. Lol I think Motor guide and Minn Kota will have brushless technology soon. One thing I don't like about my current trolling motor is how much it spooks fish, and it is no where near as loud as the Minn Kota. I would like a cable steer, no transducer in the head, anchor feature, remote option, and brushless motor. Around 80lbs thrust.
MotorGuide announced it last summer 2019....and its still not here LOL
Easy question. The Garmin Force
They have the best features I think. But not a fan of their design.
My wallet says haswing, but my heart says Garmin. The echomap integrations for depth, charting, and autopilot + panoptix = killer combo.
Lol Haswing. I'd say a major brand is the way to go with a trolling motor
Can't say I've ever seen or heard of one prior to posting this video.
@@InDepthSonar Sounds like an opportunity for more videos in your channel🤔 "The other guys"
Lol that's true. Hadn't thought of that
Well done. I can see the Ghost being a major player. It would be nice if the competition drove the price down but that doesn’t seem to be the case.
Yes I was hoping to see that as well...you can easily be in $10000-15000 in trolling motor, power poles and sonar/GPS units these days
I have no idea to be honest. I have had a motorguide ix5 on a 2014 DLV198. 2 had gave out on me. 1st one was blowing the 30amp fuse that was factory installed. The replacement started to do the same thing. So they increased to a 50amp. Motor cuts in and out and the power cable is rotting. Only used the 2nd motor about 4 time the past 4 years. So the 3rd replacement not be a motorguide. Looking at the reviews on Minn kota's I may shy away from them.
Ghost is still the way to go!
Great video! Thanks.
Minn Kota has proven reliability and great customer support. Other than maintenance I’ve had zero reliability issues. Can’t say the same for Motorquide. I’ve owned two, both lemons, never again, even if they gave me one.
I like the MotorGuides and have run several myself over the years, but agree Minn Kota's I never had a problem with.
Garmin Force it is! Thank you for the info!!
You're welcome! And a great choice for sure
Just put a 12v 55lb ipilot Minn Kota on my jet boat, would never go back to foot pedal only
Depending on the application, a remote can make things easier
@@InDepthSonar I fish mostly the Susquehanna river, works for my method of fishing witch usually is pull along, banks, islands, cover etc, current is always holding the boat in one direction, so when you hit the spot lock you pretty much are sitting is if you had an anchor out, but without the commotion of throwing one out, then you can turn spot lock off drift another 20/30 foot of water and spot lock again for a few minutes, allows you to cover an immense amount of water far quicker and quieter than with an anchor and you don't have to do anything, formerly I didn't use my trolling motor much for anything other than positioning the boat in a drift or to get into a spot to drop anchor.
Thank you so much for this. Much more info than I was looking for, which is great. Died laughing when I saw those prices! Some of those cost more than my boat and graphs together! LOL
Yes cost has sure gone up on all this stuff. 2 power poles, 2 10" graphs, livescope, a trolling motor and your in for $12000 easily.
I’m pretty sure you left out the remote for the Lowrance.. Maybe I’m wrong.. But I think they have a remote that you can just point for your direction... Wireless...
The Lowrance remote is an option and it is the Garmin that has the gesture controls that allow you to point it where you want it to go.
1st generation products are a hit or miss. Stick with a mature and reliable product IMO. I'm intrigued with the Garmin product, wireless and brushless, but for now I will stick with a company that has been making trolling motors since Ive known fishing. Ultrex has been in good service for 2 seasons going to a 3rd.
Minn Kota is proven. Garmin is a solid company so I trust them. MotorGuide is owned by Mercury....makes me think. Lowrance lists "reliable" as their number 1 selling feature of this motor. Who does that on an unproven product? Especially a company with their track record of "reliable" products. I like the Lowrance best on paper, but how will they hold up?
I wish I could combine the force and ghost together. I was leaning ghost but after hearing the transducer can't do above 800 KHZ, I'm leaning garmin. That and eventually I want to get livescope so it makes sense.
Yeah Lowrance is strange with their 3 in 1 transducer... Not sure why they haven't got into the mHz range yet
I still have the 2019 minn kota terrova ipilot and love it. No need to spend 3k, well if you're wealthy n money is not an issue so yeah the the best thing on the market hahaha. I love the Garmin because of the wireless connection brushless motor.
Terrova's sure are popular and they are pretty much bulletproof at this point
Man so expensive. Having two boats sucks because I need to rig them both. If I had one boat I'd get the garmin
LOL yeah one is bad enough these days.
This is a great video. Have you done any kind of update in the last couple of years? Has there been a trend in which one of these options have done well? I've only used/seen the Minn Kota and Lowrance setups, but it seems like the Garmin is/was the most technologically advanced. Are there any issues with the throughput of the wireless system Garmin is using?
Seems like there have been a few hiccups with the Garmin and Lowrance along the way, but overall they are still the best two out there today. MotorGuide Tour Pro finally came out just this year and haven't used that one or had feedback. If its a budget motor you're looking for then the Ultrex is a great choice
It will be Power Poles trolling motor that surpasses them all!!
Yeah can't wait to see that! Only been hearing about it for 5 years lol
Seems there is still no surface alloy which is completly repel saltwater. Only saltwater resistant
These are freshwater motors for sure.
I just purchased a Sun Tracker Fishin' Barge 22 DLX pontoon boat and need a fishing package. I am looking at the Motor guide Lowrance Pinpoint GPS system. This package include the Motorguide Xi5 with the Lowrance Elite 9 fish finder. I'll be looking for brush piles and trolling along the banks. With your experience will this be a good fishing package or should I go with something else?
That would be a great setup. Get at least a 24v Xi5 though for a boat that big. 36v would be even better if you have the room for 3 batteries.
No mention about the HASWING Cayman GPS motor?! That is strange because Haswing's market share is just huge! We sell everyday to European fishermen all the way from Spain to Greece. Thanks.
I bet more Lowrance Ghosts are on boats right now in America than Haswings
55lbs only for the gps version on the Cayman. The Cayman Pro 80lbs but without gps...For me is too just.
Any idea when the remote is going to come out for the ghost?
Not too sure TMR-1 000-15468-001 is the part number
Hey Lawren, thanks for your video, I know the posting is over a year old! Not mentioning Rhodan? I am looking at 120Lbs of trust and 84" length, boat weights easily 5500 wet, I don't need more transducers than I already have, I think the remote control seems a good control option. what's your take on it?
IF you see the other comments on why I don't compare Rhodan you'll understand. They don't make a trolling motor that is in the same class as these ones. Plus I feel like anyone who comments on these videos about Rhodan either works for the company or is paid to comment on social media to gain exposure for Rhodan
Great review, which of these Trolling Motors are saltwater compatible. I'm really taken by the Garmin unit especially but I've seen on Garmin's site, I believe that it is a freshwater version and I also believe this to be true because all previous Electric Trolling Motors have been colour coded, Black motors for freshwater whereas the White is for saltwater use. If this is true, do you know if Garmin plans on releasing a saltwater version in the future?
I haven't heard of any plans for any of the brands to release a saltwater version of these motors. However, both Lowrance and Garmin have said if things go well with them, then we can expect an expanded line. That may include a SW model, but who knows at this point.
Yes, you are correct in White being SW and Black being FW for Minn Kota and MotorGuide
@@InDepthSonar Thanks for the reply, might be the last thing these companies will be worried about as the world could be heading into a depression and not just a recession as first believed. I might have to stick to MinnKota for now or just hold off until we see how things turn out... stay safe.
why don't any of them have a camera function? "this is 1919 after all..
I'm sure some will have that... Only would work in super clear water
I have an old 24v Edge to upgrade. I run Garmins. looking at Force vs. Ultrex. Ultrex is ahead by price point. (still shopping)
Had the Edge on my last boat. Ultrex will do everything you need, Garmin will do some more... But it's really just "if" you need the more
Nice video and thanks for sharing this information! :)
Thank you!
this was ver informative for me as Im looking at a bow mount motor and its very confusing concerning the technology part, I have the lowrance elite chirp so probably leaning towards the lowrance ghost although the price is a little hot, also theres no hand held spot lock convienience, good info thanks
Lowrance is the leader here right now...However I think they should have included the remote. It does come included on the new 60" shaft model
Why are we not comparing the ulterra? Its only 1000 less and has auto stow and deploy
The Ulterra isn't in the same class as these motors. Ulterra is electric steer, where these are going after the cable steer (bass) market and adding the GPS features of the electric steer motors.
You'd want to compare the Power Drive, Terrova, Ulterra, Xi3 and Xi5 to each other.
Garmin needs to make a longer shaft for deep v boats….
It would be nice if the Minn Kota would talk to the Lowrance.
John
It would be... And it would be nice if you could return stuff you buy at Home Depot to Lowe's but that ain't gonna happen either haha :)
I’m in the market for a new trolling motor and I’m interested in the Lowrance ghost but I saw a video from Glenn May from bass resource he had an underwater camera on it and it was very loud compared to others what do you think is it a problem they may have fixed or is it still loud
I personally haven't found them so loud is a problem. I've used 2 and don't think they are worse than Garmin noise wise
Minkota Edge hand tiller 45 lb. Because there's no point putting on a trolling motor that costs more than the boat.
LOL. I hear you!
I'll stick with my ultrex it works great
If it ain't broke don't fix it :)
We will see how they do on the water the ultrex is tried and true the real question I have is durability and how well it’ll keep me on my spot
Agree...a track record is always a good thing when you are making a $3000+ purchase
Tried and true alright full of problems after 3 years is redicoulous and it's the same issues boards burning out none stop
Thank you for all your videos. I watch your video regarding fishfinders. I am considering putting a Garmin uhd73v at the helm and bow for my only fish finders. I probably will not network them, nor by the livescope at this time. I want your opinion if I should by both or put a Lowrance TI2 at the bow. Thank you in advance.
It's get the Garmin over the Lowrance in that case. Or wait a couple weeks and see if Lowrance has anything new coming out that would be a good fit for you. You should know by December 5th
@@InDepthSonar Thank you.
🔥🔥Lowrance all the way!!!💪👊🔨
They are nice for sure!
Man if Motorguide made a saltwater 60" shaft tour pro, I would but it yesterday!!!
Yeah hopefully they come out with some longer shaft models
Hi there I recently bought a Pelican Intruder 12 Jon Boat. would the garmin work with my boat ?
Yes for sure it would
2 years since this video... any significant updates regarding these trolling motors or any word on things to come?
Rumor is Power-Pole is coming out with one this summer. But we've heard that for several years now
@@InDepthSonar , Minn Kota not having a brushless motor is like being left at the bus stop while the prom is going on
Not having a brushed motor that they can deliver is also the same. We haven't seen them in dealers since last June around here
Your vids are sick bro! Hope you’re doing well buddy!
Thanks man! Enjoying watching your stuff you've been putting out lately too!
Lawren Wetzel my vids are the complete opposite of yours. Lol. So scuffed. And hard to understand lol.
hahaha so entertaining tho!
Unless you have a ton of money and I don't, you are bound by what ever electronics you already have on your boat. So I guess its Lowrance for me.
Nothing wrong with the Lowrance. It is a great product
Will you still get the SI with the Motorguide tour pro if I use Garmin graphs?
No the Tour Pro only has 2D sonar and Down Imaging.
I was perfectly happy with the old AutoPilot. This crap costs way too much.
These are expensive for sure.
Yup I picked up a 55lb 12v with autopilot on fbook market last spring. Love it!
Won’t be adding any of them to my boat until they come out with a longer shaft
Yeah I hope to see the same! 45" or so is the best seller by far and these motors really target bass boats so you can't blame them this early on. Hopefully if things go well we'll see longer ones.
facts
Longer shaft and in a saltwater version
I just switched to hummingbird and minn Kota, cant stand Lowrance... never were accurate especially with fish I’d.
Nothing is accurate with Fish ID lol. Fish ID is just the unit taking its best guess that there is a fish. Any sonar return could show up as a fish on a Lowrance, Garmin, Raymarine, or Humminbird. It could be a walrus, a dead porcupine or a fish
Love the technological advances, but you pay for it. On top of the trolling motor, AGM batteries at $350. a pop!!! The way this is going, no will be able to afford a trolling motor.
So true...don't forget the $500 on board charger lol
Garmin for me same as fish finder. Nice to spot lock on a area I come across. Just dont mix match units
Mix and match isn't good, unless you have two separate networks...but soon you'll see there is no reason to mix and match. Watch Garmin in the next couple weeks.
Getting an ultrex this year!
Nice!! Still got the Ranger?
Shes still kickin
Headin to Erie today
Nice! Supposed to snow!!! Have fun
I need a 60” garmin for my tritoon. Dont want to use lowrance graphs or I would get the Ghost
Yeah that's the down side to the Ghost for sure
Do they all have auto deploy and stow?
None of these do. Only the Minn Kota ulterra does
The only one that compete with ultrex is the garmin lowreanc want 200 dollars more than garmin with out all the bells and wistles
Lowrance just nailed the design over the Garmin. The cable management, the depth adjustment collar, the size of the Mount. But I hear you on the Garmin features
Longevity!!! I need proof these things will hold up. Especially when paying a small fortune for them. I know some are in the shop more than the water. And that's pure crap for the price you have to pay.
Yes looking forward to seeing how these hold up as well
Good video
Thank you!