@@TheCraftBeerChannel a real shame. in fact i can't find them really (outside of Ireland). Brockley Brewery do a good red ale, not too hoppy. But apart from them, hard to find (in London) anyway
A lot of breweries in the US have started to brew “Mexican lagers” and in most cases they’re Viena lagers. When Dos Equis was first brewed in Mexico in 1897, it was an Amber Viena lager, it wasn’t until the 80s when they released the now more famous green bottled lighter version.
Vienna lager is popular here in western New York, one of our local breweries, flying bison makes one called “rusty chain” looks just like the one you’re drinking 👍🏻🍻
We make Vienna lager all the time - there is always a keg on tap, and one lagering for when the one on tap kicks. Staple brew at our house / kitchen studio.
I know this is a little late to the party. But a local to me (Old Nation Brewing - Famous for NEIPA (M43)) released a german lager series that is fantastic. They released a Vienna, German Pils, and a Helles. All brewed contract out of Brew Detroit. Detroit water is some of the best brewing water for lager beer. Super balanced, with a slight nod to sulfates and not a ton of bicarbonate. What I am trying to say is they are killing it. If you ever make it to MI for a brewery tour of Midwest beers. Old Nation is a must stop.
You delved a little into the history of this style; I always like that. Maybe it would be fun to try and get a beer historian on an episode of The Bubble some time? Reading (or hearing) about the history of beer and brewing always scratches an itch for me.
I absolutely love Vienna Lager. Craft breweries in the United States have started to revive it. Would love to here some of the favorites people have had. Arches Brewing in Atlanta and KC Brewing in Kansas City make two outstanding examples. Prost!
This is a good point. I guess we associate Brooklyn more with that style, and I think they are more known around the world than Boston Lager. But we probably should have referenced it, for sure.
@@TheCraftBeerChannel but both of them are made with base malt and crystal malts, the color is correct, but vienna malt profile is slightly different... Both are quite good american amber lagers, but neither brooklyn nor boston are true vienna lagers.
Not a million miles away, but very different process in that Alt is fermented at a higher temperature with an ale yeast, which makes it fruiter. Vienna lager is a lager yeast, so it is crisper and more biscuity but still has some fruity notes from the darker malt.
if you are still in Austria try the "Wiener Original" by Ottakringer in case you haven't had it already. A little paler and less sweet than the Schwechater, but still a godd representation of that style in my opinion
It surprises me that it's a "dead style." Here in Toronto, there's at least 4 breweries that make a Vienna lager and it's hugely popular in the homebrew scene (as much as lagers can be due to extra equipment). That said, that brewery looks absolutely amazing and I need to hit it up next time I'm in the area.
I wouldnt quite call it dead it seems! But certainly it is a curiosity when compared to pale lager, the style invented a year later that now owns the world!
Why benchmark modern Vienna lager with Brooklyn as opposed to Sam Adams Boston Lager? It’s one of America’s best selling craft beers and tastes more like the style’s description
In Denmark Carlsberg has this www.jacobsenbryg.dk/vores-oel/vienna-lager/. Also its quiet popular with homebrewers. checkout this recipe site an select vienna style. beercalc.org/
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Are there any other styles out there that have nearly died out? Or ones that are coming back?
The original Irish red ale? so not the hoppy one. I feel thats dying out or hard to find anyway
@@kw2142 great shout! Definitely being eroded away by increased hopping and bitterness, as well as pale being more popular.
@@TheCraftBeerChannel a real shame. in fact i can't find them really (outside of Ireland). Brockley Brewery do a good red ale, not too hoppy. But apart from them, hard to find (in London) anyway
Peeterman, local beerstyle from Leuven (yeah, that Leuven). It will be revived by a brewery here. Brewdogs made it in their TV show. :)
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Conrad Seidl is a legend here, a walking talking national beer treasure. They call him the Beer-Pope.
"Seidl" is also Austrian slang for a small beer.
A lot of breweries in the US have started to brew “Mexican lagers” and in most cases they’re Viena lagers. When Dos Equis was first brewed in Mexico in 1897, it was an Amber Viena lager, it wasn’t until the 80s when they released the now more famous green bottled lighter version.
Love you two! Vienna lager is definitely on my to-do list!
Vienna lager is popular here in western New York, one of our local breweries, flying bison makes one called “rusty chain” looks just like the one you’re drinking 👍🏻🍻
Any beer video with Ultravox references gets my like.
Clearly means a lot to you.
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We make Vienna lager all the time - there is always a keg on tap, and one lagering for when the one on tap kicks. Staple brew at our house / kitchen studio.
Can you guys please do more brewing videos?
100%! Got lots of plana for them just waiting for damned lockdown to end.
@@TheCraftBeerChannel Sweet as
I brew it twice I year with variations in hops. Tettnang for spring, hersbrucker for autumn.
I know this is a little late to the party. But a local to me (Old Nation Brewing - Famous for NEIPA (M43)) released a german lager series that is fantastic. They released a Vienna, German Pils, and a Helles. All brewed contract out of Brew Detroit. Detroit water is some of the best brewing water for lager beer. Super balanced, with a slight nod to sulfates and not a ton of bicarbonate. What I am trying to say is they are killing it. If you ever make it to MI for a brewery tour of Midwest beers. Old Nation is a must stop.
Kindly sirs, what is the name of the establishment you are knocking the Vienna lagers back, as it were?
Vienna lager seems pretty common style to me here in Czech rep.
Good to know! You are an exception though
This is now available on the Blade: fantastic dark and malty lager. I agree it is a really unique hybrid lager.
You delved a little into the history of this style; I always like that.
Maybe it would be fun to try and get a beer historian on an episode of The Bubble some time? Reading (or hearing) about the history of beer and brewing always scratches an itch for me.
fantastic to be on your journey interesting video my friend.
I absolutely love Vienna Lager. Craft breweries in the United States have started to revive it. Would love to here some of the favorites people have had. Arches Brewing in Atlanta and KC Brewing in Kansas City make two outstanding examples. Prost!
Love this! Great video lads
I remember you visited Uneticky pivovar, they actually have a Vienna lager special right now
well I never! Amazing, makes me want to go straight back there.
Brooklyn Lager is a great example, tho I'm surprised there was no mention of Sam Adams
This is a good point. I guess we associate Brooklyn more with that style, and I think they are more known around the world than Boston Lager. But we probably should have referenced it, for sure.
@@TheCraftBeerChannel but both of them are made with base malt and crystal malts, the color is correct, but vienna malt profile is slightly different... Both are quite good american amber lagers, but neither brooklyn nor boston are true vienna lagers.
I recently fell in love with Vienna Larger. Really informing vid. Are have this on play back. Might even try brewing it. Much respect gents #Rasko
Nevermind the beer, I want that beer store!
You guys are awesome looking forward to reach your level 🤣 cheers 🍻
Best of luck with it all!
Sam Adams Boston Lager is a nice Vienna Lager
You have to try the "Wiener Lager" from 100 Blumen Brauerei here in Vienna...
I've seen a couple of "Vienna Red" lagers, is that a different style to this?
Never heard of that but these beers usually have a red hue so it is probably just a further explanation of what to expect
Is this similar to Alt bier from Dusseldorf?
Not a million miles away, but very different process in that Alt is fermented at a higher temperature with an ale yeast, which makes it fruiter. Vienna lager is a lager yeast, so it is crisper and more biscuity but still has some fruity notes from the darker malt.
@@TheCraftBeerChannel ah right, thanks for prompt reply! Will have to check it out, hopefully will go Vienna next year!
you should do some stuff with real ale craft beer, great guy he is, i believe it could be something great!
We have done stuff before but I am sure we will cross paths again soon
if you are still in Austria try the "Wiener Original" by Ottakringer in case you haven't had it already.
A little paler and less sweet than the Schwechater, but still a godd representation of that style in my opinion
We did indeed try it, but we thought it wasn't quite as close to the style as the Schwechater
It surprises me that it's a "dead style." Here in Toronto, there's at least 4 breweries that make a Vienna lager and it's hugely popular in the homebrew scene (as much as lagers can be due to extra equipment). That said, that brewery looks absolutely amazing and I need to hit it up next time I'm in the area.
I wouldnt quite call it dead it seems! But certainly it is a curiosity when compared to pale lager, the style invented a year later that now owns the world!
Maybe not authentic Viennese versions, but I see solid examples of vienna lager all the time recreated by craft breweries around here...
So interesting that the internet has spread it around the world (albeit in a niche) and yet in its home town it is hard to find!
Why benchmark modern Vienna lager with Brooklyn as opposed to Sam Adams Boston Lager? It’s one of America’s best selling craft beers and tastes more like the style’s description
Main reason - coz we are British and we dont really have Sam over here. Two, we think Brooklyn is a more true to style.
In Bariloche Argentina there is a Viena Lager and an Spalt Lager made by Manush (brewery).
Hehe. Pished
I'd have thought vienna lagers wld simply be called lagers in Vienna.
Well these days it refers more to the malt than the city I guess - especially since the city doesn't really drink them!
Get on with it foe Gwad sakes
In Denmark Carlsberg has this www.jacobsenbryg.dk/vores-oel/vienna-lager/. Also its quiet popular with homebrewers. checkout this recipe site an select vienna style. beercalc.org/