MH4U: The Ultimate Kinsect
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ต.ค. 2024
- The extract extender (we often call "effect extender") Kinsect is hands down the best Kinsect in the entire game. Here are two methods to make it at max stats (114 power, 60 stamina, 150 speed).
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I'm here in 2020, more specifically July 2020. Alatreon was just added into Iceborne. This very video was the first Gaijin video I watched. Was a glaive main back in 4U and this video popped up when I tried to find guides for kinsect cuz the kinsect system was very complicated and messy in 4U. He has a certain charm to his voice to make me feel relaxed after some salt from continuous carts to Rajang. He goes thru everything step by step and very carefully. I knew I was hooked right away, been here forever and will still be here. I might be back in 2025 to check in again. Thank you so much Gaijin and thank you all wonderful subscribers. Much love.
Hey same here! Gaijin is great, I honestly think he helped me fall in love with monster hunter even more than I had before
I also went here after setting off the dust in my 3ds. I was also a regular on his vids until I took hiatus 4 years ago. Need a refresher to get into hunting apex once again.
*Hi from 2022*
9:20 just to skip straight to the good method. 11:25 for misc. materials.
39 Power+ to 132 Power
19 Speed+ to 96 Speed
19 Stamina+ to 96 Stamina
30 Speed+ to 150 Speed
114 Power, 96 Stamina, 150 Speed total.
No one answered you in 2 years, but thank you for this summary.
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Holy hell, I'd rather just use a dang hammer
^^^
got my perfect kinsect Dalamadur IG, would not use Hammer now
@@Dave_Chrome nice lmao
Gaijin, I want to thank you. I followed this guide using the second method, and it worked perfectly. I used the same glaive you did and everything, and it’s really nice having a great kinsect. I appreciate this stuff.
Man, I'm 100+ hours in and there are still so many epic things to craft. Can't wait to get this beast of a weapon later, thanks!
Malthael no one answered you in 4 years, but good luck!
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Did you make it??
2016 was 8 years ago and this is one of my favorite games still
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I'm currently finishing what I started and finally beating 4u this should help thanks for the great guides
Probably already mentioned. While you might mess up things. As long as you do not evolve your kinsect you can always change it. You can always feed your kinsect after the fact. So you can always work on changing it back. This works great if you are upgrading your glaive while using it. As you can go full speed from the start and you just save up all your power nectars, then dump those in at the end, reducing speed back to 60, but at the same time you can get the evolution and stronger glaive, while you had a speedy bug.
Dude after all these years I got this recommended again. I'm still an IG main and this video was a big part of me not giving up this weapon(s)
Thank you Gaijin!
The only thing stopping me from going Glaive at any point before G was thinking I had to have the ++ nectars. Now that i know I can do it with just +, I may just make a glaive my next project. Love the tutorials, thanks for the English version!
Starting MH4U again in 2021 and your channel also the first one I come back to :)
Gaijin. What do you think of people who hack in armor/weapons/talismans, should I kick them? Today I actually met a person online who told me they had a hacked talisman(ooo Auto Guard +10, Defense +14). They were G2 and also had a honed Rare 10 Daora CB and full G-Rank Dalamadur armor. It just infuriates me that people like us dedicate time and effort to make these armor sets, and then there are people who just cheat there way up. It kinda ruins some of the fun of mh imo because of the satisfaction that comes with completing a set or defeating a difficult quest.
Boot em!
Why would you even bother hacking an Auto Guard talisman?
You should just kick them because most hackers don't know how to hunt properly.
Same thing happened to me, guy had full White Fatalis set cause of action replay, load of bull.
Who cares. It's a PvE game, it's not competitive. Let people play how they want to play.
You can easily gather ++ Nectars on any G-rank expedition or Guild Quest, no need for Treasure area.
On most areas, you might see acorn-like gathering points on the ground. Those give either elemental Nectars or ++ Nectars. Some zones, such as the one with the shallow streams (Kelbi / Aptonoth feeding area), almost always have both. If they're blue, you get 2 Nectars per gather. Each node either gives only elemental Nectar or only ++ Nectars.
For a weapon that looks like it's supposed to be full of customization options, it sucks that this video makes it seem like you have no options.
Extract extend is the best but nobody is telling you that it's your only option. Extract efficacy L is nice too if you want to be overpowered for a short time. Seriously the health boost you get makes akantor and ukanlos fights trivial. you wont even touch a potion. You might want to look into what other skills there are and what trees you need to follow though because you can easily screw yourself over. (It's why if I make a glaive in G rank i make sure i over farm so I can fully upgrade in bulk so i can restart if i slip up)
BlaizeTheDragon But from most standpoints, you really don't have those other options. Going for any other option hampers yourself, and that's not what you want to do at all. It's like saying Blue sharpness weapons are fine in late G Rank. Yeah, you can use them, but Purple ones are just flat out better every time. Those other kinsects are only useful for novelty or super specialized circumstances.
Sethbeastalan I've had good success and alot of fun with a kinsect focused gameplan and glavie.
That's pretty much what a "meta game" is: The most optimal way to play a game. What grinds my gears is when people say "OH FUCK ALL THAT, I LIKE TO PLAY *MY* GAMES FOR FUN!" because it is as if they are implying that grinding for mixed and matched equipment and acquiring very potent skills in order to kill a monster quicker than the norm is boring, yet wearing matching armor sets only to look cool or thinking the game ends at low/high rank is fun. There's nothing wrong with playing a game at a "casual" level, but when you consider people like them as the reason for the dip in the quality of modern gaming then that is when people who actually know how to invest time into something they love need to speak up.
***** You know you can be serious and competitive and also have fun, they don't need to be apart like most people try to split them as such.
Dude, this guide was amazing! I'm just getting into MH but I am loving it. Very enjoyable to see the different quests and items. Trying to get my block/evade timing on point ;)
Ugh...I got a lot of Glaives to redo now. T.T
Man, I'm so lucky, I just bought this game on the Eshop and wasn't sure of how it worked here, it's completly different from Generations but now I don't have to ruin my IG, thanks a lot!
So helpful, thank you so much Gaijin. I love that you decided to commentate in your videos as this makes it easier for me to internalize the material. Keep it up Broski.
Updated, voiced and in English? Your videos are getting better and better! :3
Don't forget you can save your game before beginning either process (or your own) and if it does not work out how you planned just load the save and no harm done.
It may be just me; as I just started getting used to the Insect Glaive, but they are pretty easy to make and upgrade. It's just expensive. Like I only had to had the Flaming Crimson Fatalis twice to have all the materials I need and all those little hunts, (Damn Flutterflies.) to get the materials needed to upgrade. I had like 7 or 8 digits of zenny and now after fully upgrading the Crimson Glaive, I'm a bit under 5 or 4. Don't remember the exact numbers.
Then again, it's probably just me as mentioned above, I only started using Insect Glaive.
I'm glad I didn't waste too many high rank and G rank parts on upgrading insect glaives. I had been upgrading with the element+ nectars you get early in the game. Having elemental damage wasn't as impressive as I'd hoped, and this looks like the way to go in any case.
gaijin hunter Speaking of Kinsects. In your tutorial for insect glaives you left out 2 skill that you can use. If you press "R" in one of your combos you will strike the monster with the end of your staff allowing you to mark them that way, as well before releasing your kinsect you can actually hold the "X" button and charge your staff up before letting your Insect go causing it to move faster and hit a lot harder.
just want to say that u can get max stat (114 power, 60 stamina, 150 speed) with only simple + nectars with gaijin hunters method if u do it a little diffent. all u need is to at lvl 11 after u filled the growth bar shift ur points to power til u have 114 power. then upgrading ur kinsect and put the rest of ur points into speed. hope this helps. and thanks this video has been a great help.
i wrote down this recipe based on the video
power > LV3
power-type
speed > LV6
power-type
Speed > LV8
Stamina > LV10
Blue Type
Speed! 150
Power++! 114
correct?
Thank you so much for this Gaijin hunter. I was one of people that really asked for this on your other video! Really appreciate the effort you have put into the MH community.
Dude I have powerhouse bugs with 60 speed and I just got used to it
damn right about Cathar, best music in 4U
Saved for later!
I don't know ANYTHING about glaive weapons but if i ever feel the need to learn this is what I'll use as a guide ;D
im reeeally glad to know I've messed up real good with all my elemental glaives
I don't know about you guys, but having used melfs kinsect guide from the very beginning of the game for my IGs, i didn't have any problems using a very slow bug
The method is great but I also like to use my buggy buddy as a weapon, with this method I don't get elemental damage so I'll stick to get cutting speed and stamina since I can keep cut tails with it. :)
I never realized how much damn materials you need to upgrading this thing all at once, I had to stop midway during the upgrade phase to collect mega demondrugs and demonpills it took forever, and that was only for one glaive!! I have four I need to make lmao
Hint: Don't use any of the elemental nectars! Not only do they only give 1 to the important stat, but you will never be attacking with the kinsect except to get juiced, making them completely useless filler that you could just sell.
Super helpful! So glad to see this guide in English!
Hi! The description says 114 power and "60" stamina and 150 speed, Is that a typo for the 60 stamina?
Thanks for all of the great videos gaijin hunter! They helped me a bunch all the time! :)
To all people who play this game in german:
Kraft+-Nektar = Power+Nectar
Ausdauer+-Nektar = Stamina+Nectar
Geschwindgkt+Nkt = Speed+Nectar
Why i wrote that? They actually added a " - " at Stamina and Power Nectar after the " + ". But at Speed its still just " + ".
Gaijin there are 2 ways of getting the effect extender so it might be good to also show the second method
It starts via stamina based kinsect try it out
Damn, i miss good ol' times
I mean... The game's multiplayer is still pretty active
I play MH4U daily lol
Finally gonna try IG after owning the game for 5 years, this will come in handy
Love your guides/tutorials! They're very informative. I was wondering, could you do a guide on the whole VE Ticket system?? All I've learned from research online is that the colour of your guild card corresponds to amount of unique quests you've done and has something to do with unity level which gets you different level tickets (Bronze, silver, gold, cosmic, etc) But it was all SUPER confusing to me, I can't tell what colour my guild card is supposed to be and have no Idea how to get the higher tickets D: If you did a guide that would be amazing! If not I understand, just thought it might be a good Idea for people like me who are confused about that whole system.
Jumping into the 3DS library as the Switch games are so expensive and I need a real primer.
For a long time I’ve been hoping Gaijin Hunter would make a tutorial on how to make the most powerful Elemental Kinsect. But I guess it’s not really gonna happen? Loved this video though, I’ve used it for all my glaives a few years ago.
You know, I seem to be able to do this blind.
At the end of it all, I always seem to find myself to get 96 in all stats before I get to level 10 and I can see the option of the bug I want.
THAT SAID however, I'm not fully funded at the moment so when the time comes and I can amass some funds, I may follow this step in order.
You've really helped me with the guide :D
Thanks Gaijin! I'm using this guide to help make a Seltas IG that'll be useful down the road. That'll be my 'test glaive', before I start to make more IG's in this style C:
I love the IG in 4U but in my opininion they improved the kinsects in GU, since you were technically locked to use one kinsect in 4U, in GU however you had this cool skills in other kinsects like the affinity bug or the termor res bug (which was the only way I was able to solo my first G Rank Jho and Rajang)
Useful as always buddy :D
Thank you for making this video, I had no idea about this!
i really love ur videos:) also you are doing a great job at narrating ^^
Jesus you have improved a lot in 5 years
9:04, a timestamp for those that are going by Melf's method.
focusing on the kinsects own damage, the other of the last 2 types is better, as that one ignores the targets armor
Great videos man keep up all the awesome work
This guide really helped a lot. Thanks
the final dalamadur glaive would definitely make it on the list of top 5 too, 930 raw, something around 300 blast, no affinity, insane sharpness and 1 slot. just waiting for the dlc with g-rank dalamadur :)
I'd like to see you showcase some of the other 'final upgrade' kinsects and how to get them.
What if someone was crazy enough to farm ++ Nectar and use it instead of the Wycoon purchasable + ones, would we be hitting the same result or do they really only matter at the end once you do have the bug set?
I got Bilbobrix without even LOOKING at this tutorial. I didn't even know he was the ultimate! Got lucky I guess...
I don't know if it's just me, but I do seem to like the Shah Dalamadur insect glaive too. xD
Thx man this tutorial really helped!
But what if, by some unholy desire summoning magic, we have enough ++ Nectars to do this using them alone? What kinds of numbers would we be talking?
Made all my glaives with this guide...u are awesome dude
Now making this Kinsect-making technique with the Direspike Display. O.o
Love this lil guy! Any chance you will make a video for the Caravaneer's Challenge? :P
Got recommended this today randomly
you might not see this but... Why don't you use elemental nectar? the element power and speed would work in a certain way to make it into an ultimate build
The Desire Sensor? Omg the thing I've been complaining about is real? Please explain.
Your Recipe List at the end is missing 5 Monster Essence.
I was nevertheless able to make a Hazy caster with EE and 150 Speed in one shot. Thanks!
This also works with Stamina types.
Weird, at level 10 I end up looking at 105 Power, 96 Stamina, and 96 Speed, unlike GaijinHunter's 114 Power. I think I might've messed up somewhere. I'm upgrading the Blunt Dios glaive btw.
Liger 00 Jäger
Yep, I messed it up. Added one too many stamina.
Just got into playing Glaives and whoah...love it!!
It’s weird to me in MH4U the Kinsect upgradeding mechanics where confusing, it’s pike if you don’t use the right nectar you can up it anymore in my experience but in MHW it’s super easy.
How to blow off your Caravan Points 101. Seriously, after I realized I would be making this Kinsect for all of my glaives I used up all of my CP buying loads of nectar.
No one said it would be cheap.
I honestly prefer Ladytower over Bilbobrix. Mostly due to the appearance. Then again I run the Helios X set with the Water Kecha Wacha Glaive and have for a while.. so I'm a bit bias. But my Chameleos Glaive has the Bilbobrix.
I dont justify any hacking at all. Ill restart my 500 hour character if i have to when i find out the charm table setup to get on the one that i want if i dont like mine. The point of the game is to struggle and farm for days on end just to get that precious tali you needed.
Thanks! Great content as always
Wait, is the Desire sensor actually a 100% legit thing? I thought it was just a joke
+Zypre ThePentachromancer It exists, but people just make jokes about it and blow it out of proportion. it is real though
+blow up easy pete
It doesn't exist. It's nowhere in the code. It's just a joke that some people believe because they're bad at statistics.
oh, okay never mind then! haha, i was just under the assumption, learn something new every day
+blow up easy pete its basically the nickname people have for RNG
+Dethernaxx That would be RNGesus
Why aren't any element Nectars used in this process? For example the "Power+ Nectar: Fire" Adds Power +2/Fire +! and the minus to Speed doesn't matter at this point.
The kinsect menus were so confusing to me since it was so new and unlike MH to me. But i dont know if they should make them more easy to the eyes, keep them as they are, or make them more confusing, since part of the appeal of MH is the clunky-ness?
Yo. Love your videos. Can u make a top 5 list of your favourite insect glaive plz.
Not sure which glaive to use personally. I understand different glaivre elements for different hunts, but which one would u recommend for a '1 glaive for all fights'.
Thx keep up good work.
at what point can i use ++ nectars instead of + nectars?
Awesome vid, but if you don't mind me asking, what do you use for your recording? Was interested in how 3ds streamin/recording works.
Gaijin's a legend.
Please do a video on palico. Makes, models, years, all that good stuff.
GAJIN HUNTER SPEAKS, OH MY! thanks for the guide mate, helps more than you know :-D
0:53 dem rap-skills :D
there's a way better method to make a glaive from scratch to max upgrade and it's much easier, too.
just go the stamina way: first stamina+nectars till 96, then power+nectars till 114 and then only speed+nectars, which hits 150 at the end of level 12.
this way you also always only have one way to upgrade the kinsect except at the very end (choice of bilbobrix/ladytower), and for the stats you can just go by the numbers you want at the end (96 stamina, 114 power), making screwing up almost impossible.
and it does not waste as much caravan points as melf's method does. no offense.
I prefer my kinsect which has 96 power, 108 stamina and 150 speed with extract extender with fire element I think the stamina more useful than power
Bilbobrix is one of the greatest. I like it but I own 9 different insect glaive and 3 of those are Bilbobrixs. I tell my friend I'm a variety kind of guy
I followed this to the T and my stats is 114 power 96 stamina and 150 speed
Pretty stupid that there is no way to correct this if you messed up. I didn't even know about the kinsect effects until g2 when I had like 6 level 10 kinsects. I love the insect galive, but I have to say the nectar system is pretty bad
Wow, I made the Daora glaive just minutes before watching this video! Score!
Very helpful guide. Thanks!
Would you mind doing a tutorial of how to do all this with ++ nectars in order to get a bit more better version in the end? I'm also a bit confused of how low rarity the weapon has to be in the beginning in order to have enough upgrades available to reach EE. Do I always have to start from the bottom of weapon's tree? And what about if certain weapon has just a few version upgrades available in stead of 10?
I don't get this kinect thing. I just feed it everything I have lol
You're voice sounds fine dude. The stammering will get better with practice.
Gotta wonder if you're ever gonna (or, if I've somehow missed it, ever have) posted how damage calculation works with the Kinsect's attacks, or how much KO/Exhaust Blunt ones offer.
For all of my glaives, I go with:
Stamina up until it has 96 points
Power up to 96 points
Speed for all points afterward
Always get lady tower/bilbobrix. I was surprised to know you can get to it from alucanid. Weird.
+Mary Gilbert Yeah, but the Gaijin method allowed you to use the Glaive very soon. Your method let the Speed level at 60 too long :(
Neaxus, my method is just a different way of doing the first method.
I'd love to use these but the whole Kinsect mechanic makes it basically impossible to do so without playing through the game with another weapon type first, and even then takes ages and ages of grinding afterwords just to get ONE insect glaive.
You also have to do this for every single one you craft, making them ridiculously expensive. Screw that.