killer86coupe there will be many more videos coming someday. Also I’ll have some videos of my ugly Coyote swapped new edge running low 9’s soon at the track.
@@lsk1l3r25 what about a 96 mustang gt ? I doing coyote swap , with A/c and tr 3650 built trans . Now I dont have harness off my old 4.6 for got to take it off before I sold it lol
Two years after you made this and I'm saving it because I'm gonna be doing exactly this with my Gen2 swapped new edge. Thanks to Steve for proving it can be done.
I’m thrilled for Nick. He is such a good dude and you can tell how excited and proud he is of his car. Congratulations Nick, I’m sure you are going to make that car a beast.
Man this is awesome info. I’ll be swapping my new edge this winter and I’ve been wondering how I was going to make my gauges work. It’s way easier than I was expecting. Already subbed to his channel
Great stuff guys! I’m contemplating on swapping my Gen 2 Lightning with a coyote. I want to keep the cluster functions and Ac. I’m glad it can be done.
I learned a long time ago when going to the junk yard to take my co2 tank impact, air ratchet and saw this was before battery tools were worth a damn. Makes life easy.
@@rickwilkinson1651 I also have the earthquake impact I love both. My dad has been using them for 20 year's with no issues. It's a little longer then most but it has 60ft lbs of torque, so it can still get most bolts loose. I love it, it's supposed to have a longer battery life then other brands, and it charges when it's fully dead in 90 minutes.
That’s great information. I’m wanting to swap my 01’. I was wondering if Dakota Digital was making a new cluster for the edge cars like the 87’through 93’ models.
Like most YT vids, they only show you "stuff". I just did Gen1 on an '02 GT and everything works, even the tach. Although my tach bounces a bit 1400-2k and working on that. You really need a wiring diagram to know exactly what to keep/delete. For me, I used 5 wires in the 42pin connector, others de-pinned. You also don't need two reducers to get the water temp sender in, just need one.
@@glenndiorio8967Do you feel like giving a little advice? Unfortunately mine was a 95 (V6) not a new edge, which seems more common. I've wired the tach to my cluster, but it's off by probably 400-600, but I feel like that's mostly cause it's a V6 cluster. Could be wrong. My speedo is the one I'm really trying to find out. I have 2 wires that say "speed dial" so does that mean I need to buy a speed dial? My OSS wire is being read from the computer since I have an MT82 in my swap (factory for the coyote) so the OSS wire was simple re-pinning on the CP harness. Do I NEED to run those 2 "speed dial" wires into a speed dial then my cluster? I tried wiring it directly to the cluster, and no dice..
@@ditrekbegin183 I believe your 95 used a VSS and not an OSS which can/will cause the problem. From what I've read, you'll need a "converter" i.e. speedcal device or some other way to change the signal. VSS is a generator type and the OSS is a magnetic hall effect type. With OSS the PCM controls it all and your '95 wasn't equipped to handle that. Thus the need for a change. I believe you can also use a magnet setup on your d-shaft and sensor to send the signal, but not sure. Also, the speedcal devices seem to have gone the way of the DoDo bird. Extinct! Good luck.
@@glenndiorio8967 Thank you for explaining that to me! I've been confused about it, but that makes more sense. I guess I just assumed the cluster would pickup the signals, and I could tune it via the PCM. I also see what you mean by they're extinct. That's goofy. Is there another way around it? I don't think Lethal Nate uses the speed dial, but I could be wrong. I think he does something like using the old PCM. Apologies if I sound like a DoDo, this is an adventure for me!
@@ditrekbegin183 If you had a 'VSS' dash and generator, you don't need the PCM. It could be wired direct. In your case, you have a 'VSS' dash but no signal generator. The OSS signal is delivered to the dash via CAN BUS in the PCM. An option you have is Dakota Digital dash, but it's a cost. However, it can handle any mod you through at it. Even fix you tach issue!
Hey I have a swap going as well but a 2018 coyote swapped 2001 bullitt, but dont know exactly how to get the rpms from the engine? Did u guys go from the pcm to the new edge wire harness?
Problem with using leaving stock PCM in check engine light on all the time and speedo was way off. We removed stock PCM, wiring, control box and used aftermarket cluster when we did coyote swap in my brothers 01 cobra. That he wanted control pak relay/fuse box in that spot so that's what I did. Problem Now he wants A/C after 2 yrs not having it LOL. Not a problem have to build harness, relay box and move fuel pressure regulator. Have to use aftermarket condenser because stock one don't fit aftermarket alum radiator. I'm a tech so wiring not a issue at all for me. I deal with far more harder wiring mess on big trucks with everything being datalink now.
pdmustgt d we used hptuners and paid for 2 credits to turn check engine light off. Why spend $800 or more on a aftermarket cluster when can make the stock cluster work just fine?
Why have all that extra wiring and PCM you don't need. I've seen cluster fuck mess with other wanting to use stock cluster. There is aftermarket cluster far cheaper than 800 or you can even build one too very cheap too.
If you know what you are doing the wiring job can be done to look like stock factory wiring. I’ll leave me 2 pound stock ecu and enjoy my factory cluster and my ice cold A/C and have it look like it belongs in the car.
It's not hard to make harness from terminal to terminal I have crimping tools. Since you say looking like it belongs where did you stuff control pak relay box in glove box? My brother wanted it in that spot where stock PCM was at. I can make A/C blow cold air too not hard at all. I have 03 Ranger Level II with 01 explorer V8 very easy, A/C work, stock tach reads correctly, Speedo works correctly. anti-thief work, chip key works. all 4x4 works. With wiring you do not use stupid crimp connections everything is soldered and shrink tube "the good stuff".... I'm a tech I do tons of wiring troubleshooting, making harness and datalink harness between computers. Some of older semi's some harness are no more either find one from junkyard or make it
Also at the time we did have stock PCM working but with ABS and Check engine light on. Didn't have everything in place yet just testing. He didn't want to buy another tuner and then buy another tune from tuning guy. Already had to buy tuner for coyote and tune and do it again just to make stock cluster to work better off buying aftermarket cluster for same price. He like digital dash with real oil pressure gauge not like factory gauge is. Which is really oil pressure switch shows oil pressure on the gauge with anything above 6psi
You dont need a box for the speedo. Nor do you need the coyote pcm for the speedo. The car runs off can bus and the coolant gauges shares the signal return for the speedo.
How can I find a square wave tach signal without a adapter on a 2017 gt? Been looking everywhere everyone saying 70 pin plug on pcm but mine doesn’t have a 70 pin plug
Idk man. We worked together for a while when we both worked at VMP. He thought I was talking bad about him (which I wasn’t) and then he has hated me ever since. So I honestly don’t know
@@MustangLifestyleTVI couldn't make out which wire off the engine harness connector is used for tach signal and was wondering if you knew which wire to use off that connector for tach signal for coyote swap
Fuck me man the more and more videos I watch about yote swap edges makes me wanna cry, lol Iunno why I dropped 15k plus on a mmr engine and built ported trick flow heads lol, I should have went with a built coyotee gen3 with turbo
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Ole buddy needs his own tv show. Explains everything perfectly.
Real informative bro. Bring Steve back more. He knows his shit.
killer86coupe there will be many more videos coming someday. Also I’ll have some videos of my ugly Coyote swapped new edge running low 9’s soon at the track.
Steve I need your help, I will pay you for the same wiring write up. I'm doing 2016 coyote swap in a 02 GT.
jermaine5852 email me sir. lsk1l3r@gmail.com
@@lsk1l3r25 what about a 96 mustang gt ? I doing coyote swap , with A/c and tr 3650 built trans . Now I dont have harness off my old 4.6 for got to take it off before I sold it lol
Now I didnt cut any wires either or take out stock computer . Lol
Two years after you made this and I'm saving it because I'm gonna be doing exactly this with my Gen2 swapped new edge.
Thanks to Steve for proving it can be done.
I’m thrilled for Nick. He is such a good dude and you can tell how excited and proud he is of his car. Congratulations Nick, I’m sure you are going to make that car a beast.
the guy helping yall is real knowledgeable...he needs his on channel, or segment on yours,
mgerren88 subscribe to my channel. Just started one and will be doing more videos soon
@@lsk1l3r25 sub number 33 send it
@@lsk1l3r25 ok I did
This video is awesome I am doing a coyote, t56 swap and was worried about getting all the wiring working. Thank yall so much for posting this
Man this is awesome info. I’ll be swapping my new edge this winter and I’ve been wondering how I was going to make my gauges work. It’s way easier than I was expecting. Already subbed to his channel
Great stuff guys! I’m contemplating on swapping my Gen 2 Lightning with a coyote. I want to keep the cluster functions and Ac. I’m glad it can be done.
Nice Andrew. Great content that is relevant. 👍🏻
I learned a long time ago when going to the junk yard to take my co2 tank impact, air ratchet and saw this was before battery tools were worth a damn. Makes life easy.
Yeah I just bought a battery powered earthquake wratchet for 135 bucks. Snap on is 300+ and is weaker.
@@karlhopkins713 how is that I have the earthquake air impact and i love it. My buddy liked it more then his snap on a doubt one after using mine
@@rickwilkinson1651 I also have the earthquake impact I love both. My dad has been using them for 20 year's with no issues. It's a little longer then most but it has 60ft lbs of torque, so it can still get most bolts loose. I love it, it's supposed to have a longer battery life then other brands, and it charges when it's fully dead in 90 minutes.
You can see the wrap through your glasses 😂😂
Lmao i notice that too
I have done the exact same wiring harness mistake on my 94 swap. I will be needing help to fix this...had I known then what you've shown me now.
That’s great information. I’m wanting to swap my 01’. I was wondering if Dakota Digital was making a new cluster for the edge cars like the 87’through 93’ models.
Damn we should have came up and joined the party. lol
You can see the color through his glasses lol
Nice job on the gauges!!
Can you do the s197 swap wiring guide ?
Do you have the MIL light wired up to stock cluster? if so can you share the secret.
Email lsk1l3r@gmail.com
On the engine harness plug would you happen to have a wiring diagram for the coolant oil and speedometer etc on the engine harness block
Lots of knowlegable info since i plan since i plan on coyote swapping my white 00 gt
Yea it might save me money but ive always one to do something different and the cool factor is way up there other then jumping on the 07-14 band wagon
At the end of the day still my car not asking for the worlds permission here what i do or what i plan to do is noone concern but mine and one other
Besides im sitting on a gen1 mustang engine now donated to the cause
Nah not sensitive at all but got my mind set an not gonna change it
Didn’t actually show what to wire where.
Only thing I’m interested in is the tach. Please let me know how y’all got the tach working.
Like most YT vids, they only show you "stuff". I just did Gen1 on an '02 GT and everything works, even the tach. Although my tach bounces a bit 1400-2k and working on that. You really need a wiring diagram to know exactly what to keep/delete. For me, I used 5 wires in the 42pin connector, others de-pinned. You also don't need two reducers to get the water temp sender in, just need one.
@@glenndiorio8967Do you feel like giving a little advice? Unfortunately mine was a 95 (V6) not a new edge, which seems more common. I've wired the tach to my cluster, but it's off by probably 400-600, but I feel like that's mostly cause it's a V6 cluster. Could be wrong. My speedo is the one I'm really trying to find out. I have 2 wires that say "speed dial" so does that mean I need to buy a speed dial? My OSS wire is being read from the computer since I have an MT82 in my swap (factory for the coyote) so the OSS wire was simple re-pinning on the CP harness. Do I NEED to run those 2 "speed dial" wires into a speed dial then my cluster? I tried wiring it directly to the cluster, and no dice..
@@ditrekbegin183 I believe your 95 used a VSS and not an OSS which can/will cause the problem. From what I've read, you'll need a "converter" i.e. speedcal device or some other way to change the signal. VSS is a generator type and the OSS is a magnetic hall effect type. With OSS the PCM controls it all and your '95 wasn't equipped to handle that. Thus the need for a change. I believe you can also use a magnet setup on your d-shaft and sensor to send the signal, but not sure. Also, the speedcal devices seem to have gone the way of the DoDo bird. Extinct! Good luck.
@@glenndiorio8967 Thank you for explaining that to me! I've been confused about it, but that makes more sense. I guess I just assumed the cluster would pickup the signals, and I could tune it via the PCM. I also see what you mean by they're extinct. That's goofy. Is there another way around it? I don't think Lethal Nate uses the speed dial, but I could be wrong. I think he does something like using the old PCM. Apologies if I sound like a DoDo, this is an adventure for me!
@@ditrekbegin183 If you had a 'VSS' dash and generator, you don't need the PCM. It could be wired direct. In your case, you have a 'VSS' dash but no signal generator. The OSS signal is delivered to the dash via CAN BUS in the PCM. An option you have is Dakota Digital dash, but it's a cost. However, it can handle any mod you through at it. Even fix you tach issue!
lol ragging on John - work hard crash harder lololol
How’d you make the fuel gauge and speedo work???!!
Are you getting amber Cobra tail lights?
I have a trans if you need it. Also, how much does this apply to 98 cars? Pretty similar?
Hey I have a swap going as well but a 2018 coyote swapped 2001 bullitt, but dont know exactly how to get the rpms from the engine? Did u guys go from the pcm to the new edge wire harness?
When do we get the turbo bullet VS turbo coyote race in mexico?
Bullitt will get the destroyed
Mustang Lifestyle build it and get revenge!!!
I’m swapping a 98 gt. Will what you did for the speedo work for my car too?
Mustang's lol all I gotta say there awesome
Problem with using leaving stock PCM in check engine light on all the time and speedo was way off. We removed stock PCM, wiring, control box and used aftermarket cluster when we did coyote swap in my brothers 01 cobra. That he wanted control pak relay/fuse box in that spot so that's what I did. Problem Now he wants A/C after 2 yrs not having it LOL. Not a problem have to build harness, relay box and move fuel pressure regulator. Have to use aftermarket condenser because stock one don't fit aftermarket alum radiator. I'm a tech so wiring not a issue at all for me. I deal with far more harder wiring mess on big trucks with everything being datalink now.
pdmustgt d we used hptuners and paid for 2 credits to turn check engine light off. Why spend $800 or more on a aftermarket cluster when can make the stock cluster work just fine?
Why have all that extra wiring and PCM you don't need. I've seen cluster fuck mess with other wanting to use stock cluster. There is aftermarket cluster far cheaper than 800 or you can even build one too very cheap too.
If you know what you are doing the wiring job can be done to look like stock factory wiring. I’ll leave me 2 pound stock ecu and enjoy my factory cluster and my ice cold A/C and have it look like it belongs in the car.
It's not hard to make harness from terminal to terminal I have crimping tools. Since you say looking like it belongs where did you stuff control pak relay box in glove box? My brother wanted it in that spot where stock PCM was at. I can make A/C blow cold air too not hard at all. I have 03 Ranger Level II with 01 explorer V8 very easy, A/C work, stock tach reads correctly, Speedo works correctly. anti-thief work, chip key works. all 4x4 works. With wiring you do not use stupid crimp connections everything is soldered and shrink tube "the good stuff".... I'm a tech I do tons of wiring troubleshooting, making harness and datalink harness between computers. Some of older semi's some harness are no more either find one from junkyard or make it
Also at the time we did have stock PCM working but with ABS and Check engine light on. Didn't have everything in place yet just testing. He didn't want to buy another tuner and then buy another tune from tuning guy. Already had to buy tuner for coyote and tune and do it again just to make stock cluster to work better off buying aftermarket cluster for same price. He like digital dash with real oil pressure gauge not like factory gauge is. Which is really oil pressure switch shows oil pressure on the gauge with anything above 6psi
Great content!
Love the videos keep it up bro !!! I wanna get back into videos soon.... gotta a bunch of new parts going on my Stang
Good shit..Gr8 Video
You dont need a box for the speedo. Nor do you need the coyote pcm for the speedo. The car runs off can bus and the coolant gauges shares the signal return for the speedo.
Please explain
How did you guys get the fuel gauge to work??
How can I find a square wave tach signal without a adapter on a 2017 gt? Been looking everywhere everyone saying 70 pin plug on pcm but mine doesn’t have a 70 pin plug
Talk to lethal Nate on Facebook. He makes plug and play harnesses and he’s also really hpful
@@MustangLifestyleTV thanks
You did not name the parts you had got from Amazon for the tachometer can you help me out you just said it was a box
Depending on your SN year and Gen version, you probably don't need a "box". I didn't and just completed a '02 Gen 1 swap.
anybody use a team z k member with a 6r80 what headers did you use ??????
also 5:55 repeated over and over sounds like a car with iffy compression trying to start
What's the beef about with Alex at Lund tuning? I just heard him briefly mention it on his live feed to someone .
Idk man. We worked together for a while when we both worked at VMP. He thought I was talking bad about him (which I wasn’t) and then he has hated me ever since. So I honestly don’t know
@@MustangLifestyleTV thanks. He didn't go into it , just a brief mention that he'd never work with y'all when someone asked. First I had heard of it.
@@MustangLifestyleTVI couldn't make out which wire off the engine harness connector is used for tach signal and was wondering if you knew which wire to use off that connector for tach signal for coyote swap
@@kevinanglin678 talk to lethal Nate he does these harnesses now the right way
@@MustangLifestyleTV okay thanks for the quick response
can you give me pin numbers and what wires are used?
Email lsk1l3r@gmail.com
Wonder what colors the Bullitt is? 🤔
Same as turdzilla
Fuck me man the more and more videos I watch about yote swap edges makes me wanna cry, lol Iunno why I dropped 15k plus on a mmr engine and built ported trick flow heads lol, I should have went with a built coyotee gen3 with turbo
Mystic
The bullet is a light blue color now
I want to coyote swap my car too so bad I have a 2000 model GT
One day, I'll Coyote swap a Crown Vic.
that would be sweet
I love it my boy Andrew keep up work and love video 💯💯💯💯💯👍
the bullit its purple its not a secret 😁
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Damn bro this video is super old Jonathan Harder already has like 3 videos out with his boosted 5.0. Still Great Content though🙌
Well first part of video was a week before the second part
Alright guys......lol
its green 🥴🥴
better not be chrome