The agreement to not leak deadlock is not to keep the game secret, its to stop streamers sharing footage of a game that is clearly still very unfinished with several placeholder models, unfinished models with holes in them, and models that dont match the current artstyle of the game. Its not hard to understand why valve dosent want this publicised by influencers.
Epic games lost the lawsuit with Apple which is why Fortnite was not available on Ios until now but the Digital Markets Act of the European Union forced apple to allow third party launchers to comply with EU law
@@Butterscotch_96 because normal people dont know how to do that. either way there are a lot of websites that let u install fortnite outside of the eu, signulus for example or appdb i think that also has it
Yeah, I agree. Also, the sustained upgrowth in numbers we see in SteamDB wouldn't be possible either if people are just checking out Deadlock, hating it and uninstalling it. Deadlock right now has impressive player retention numbers and I can see it because this game is addicting. We'll see when the trend stabilizes or when the first drop actually happens
blame the Hello neighbor 2 lead game designer, Alexus Kravchenko, who got hired to work at Arrowhead as the "Bringer of Balance". He killed hello neighbor 2 by scrapping most of the marketed/promised features like neural network AI, open world, sandbox gameplay and game design, etc. He also lied to us hello neighbor fans for the final year of development after getting promoted to lead designer, saying that all the promised features and characters were still in the game.
@@coolwing79sounds like you’re just salty that hello neighbor 2 sucked I don’t see how every bad change is the fault of Alexus if the only evidence you have given is that he messed up on a completely different game in a completely different genre?
@@OogaBooga24723 If the game had the marketed features and still sucked, I wouldn't care as much. But based on the alphas made prior to him taking over, the game was shaping up to be a genuine step-up from the original. I'm just mad that he killed an entire game and lied to an entire community for little to no reason.
Yeah Samsung devices have the Play store and the Galaxy store. Epic Games has the EGS. The Meta Quest has whatever their store is called. And not to mention you can just install any APK from online. *cries in iOS*
@IamW4RL0RD They're bringing this up because Spatnz said Google doesn't allow 3rd party app stores, which is totally false. They may not be fans of it, they've tried their best to get Samsung to give up on their app store, but ultimately they have no control over it. Apple however is completely closed off without jailbreaking, which sucks ass.
Steam takes 30% cut but u as a developer get access to free servers for your game, People can play CO-Op only game online which is pretty huge if u dont wanna remake ur whole game from ground up just to add online multiplayer, Steam gives u Mod workshop if u wanna use that or even Item shop, Support to any and all controllers for any and all games (I played league of legends with controller thanks to steam super easy and cool to set up) Steam gives u info about how many of ur players play on what kind of hardware at any time, Achievments, Voice chat, Reviews, Anti-cheat and im not even gonna start on all the vr features.
Also if ur game makes enough steam will talk to u and u can end up with smaller fee.... Steam is actually extremely good deal for 30% cut... noone even get close with all the features... Every single update u make for ur game costs steam money.
Defending a multibillion dollar company that the only reason why they even exist is by leaching off good games, they made over 144 million dollar from hell divers alone, the company is a leach
@@Alcholic_catyou're purposefully misunderstanding their argument here. Steam lets you use their netcode if you make a couch multiplayer game, meaning players can play it online despite your game not having netcode. It also allows you to just write generic controller mappings and Steam takes care of the compatibility (to a certain extent)
Its so funny cause i was not invited by a friend for deadlock, valve itself sent me the invite to playtest it, i was so confused cause im not famous in thr slightest
Hum no. The invite email always says "Chears, Valve Team" but it is not Valve that sent it. It is one of your friends that had access and randomly invited all his friends list. The invite email just says something like "Valve invites you to playtest their new game" . But Valve don't actually send the invites.
@@julianojosoa2197 when its a friend that sends the invite it shows their steam pfp and says "insert name here sent you an invite" ive seen it on the server i am and mine was totally different, it didnt show any of my friends, it only said valve
Something to note about the 30% cut most people are mad about is that Apple takes an unfair cut (30%) just because they provide an operating system and store. The phones are (hopefully, considering the price) already covered by the user, but then Apple takes a cut of all apps just because there isn't (now there is in the EU) a competitor to the App Store. Steam, on the other hand, is only one of the major game stores available for the desktop. You could download any launcher you want considering it is your PC, and even on Valve's new SteamOS, you can install (due to lack of support, a third-party variation of) the Epic Games launcher. Steam takes 30% because they offer services unmatched by any other launcher, both for users and developers. Despite many people believing Valve stays stagnant and just coasts off their store's profits, this is simply not true because they improve the Steam launcher with things such as remote play, Steam Input, game servers, easily accessible reviews, and Proton. In fact, Epic Games has shown far more monopolistic behavior than Steam ever has, with things like lowering the cut for temporary exclusivity contracts, and even paying out studios to keep their games entirely exclusive. The worst part is that people are only mad about this because the Epic Games launcher is simply worse. The previously mentioned lack of Linux support, the confusing and nearly unusable GUIs, and worst of all the incessant "deals" and notifications that are nearly impossible to remove. Epic Games and Apple both do things that are monopolistic, and at least in Epic Games's case, they don't give much effort into giving users and developers features that would make it a launcher worth using, especially as compared to Steam.
steam doesnt even come preinstalled so it doesn't have some unfair advantage as well people have to go and download steam showing intent that people want steam its not just the "default"
6:35 i'd say steam is the only service that actually deserves the 30% cut they provide a bunch of tools and support for both customers and developers, features such as invites, remote play, mapping for controllers and a bunch of other stuff is a lot more deserving of 30% than people give them credit for
I still think it's a bit dishearteningly high, but I do agree not enough people disclaim all that when they mention the 30%. Additionally, they are paying that 30% to be on the most popular game provider today, alongside being recommended to people who may want to play.
@SubPriestPepsi many companies take 30% like apple and many more so it's like pretty average steam is not the only one to be taking 30% from in store fees and other stuff. and google too
@@happerexanime1471 Well I did say "dishearteningly" for a reason. I was not making a comment on how fair it was, just that it probably has turned a few people away/ made some people not very happy. Also, probably shouldn't be taking an idea of a fair price from Google of all companies.
Another thing that everyone misses is that Valve lowers their cut whenever the product does well. Yes, some rather high landmarks, but they'll go down to 25/75 Valve/Dev cut after the first milestone, then down to 20/80 at the second. That's something I hear damn near nobody talk about.
The scout going in the sewers over and over just to die instead of going through the top part and go behind the soldier made me so mad I couldn't listen to what you were saying. If this is your gameplay, for the love of god FLANK.
elon musk meeting with investors after his companies collapse would be like that one scene in princess and the frog where the guy gets dragged to hell by spirits
I have about 12 hours in Deadlock. It's honestly really solid, Valve may be sitting on a gold mine if they handle the launch correctly. Unlike Blizzard, Valve is focusing more on the gameplay than on the porn appeal of characters, which is fine.
Valve's 30% is at least actually justifiable because: they host game downloads, cloud saves, comment sections (under posts and reviews) Let's not forget how they make hosting games for coop games much easier so the host doesn't have to forward ports while keeping you safe. What I am talking about is Steam Networking which connects players through relay servers that hide the host's IP for DDOS protection and privacy reasons. You also get 24 hour support that is actually helpful. Support also helps developers by informing them of Steam's developer features (achievements, Steam inventory, game cards, and such) and how to use them, and integrate them into their games. I probably missed more things than I listed here but I do not care, this list is long enough. Saying that Valve should lower their cut is insane Edit: it's also not truly 30%, it changes based on sales, but also you can find about other features through a simple google search if you'd like to know more
@@Alcholic_cat 1. they never implied it did multi for you 2. steam input is just more convenient and is just more likely to work on more systems than your own thing
@@lukerubrum5618 alot of people stutter, yeah, but its jarring because i swear he never does it. and theres a common trend of people editing out bad takes from their voiceovers so they dont derail anything
Hunt showdown deserves the review bomb. The UI straight up doesn't work half the time, constat visual bugs in menus. I played on linux (not offically supported) which in game was completely broken. So when i switched to windows to try it, it was still mostly broken. One friend had to downgrade graphics drivers and fiddle with too many settings just to prevent the shadows from being the abyss from dark souls. Other interesting things are a ton of helpful features in menus are gone. The most notable one being that when connecting to someone in another region (Us west to Us east) the game no longer sets you to that region when in their party. Instead. It refuses to let you in at all until you go through 3 menus in a place the region setting probably shouldnt be. The region used to be on the home page where you did basically everything else. Also you had a backup region which no longer exists. Honestly i think the community backlash from this is valid. The game runs very differently for different people and very popular graphics cards just cant play the game due to the bugs. I dont want to see crytek slip or someone spend money on a game they literally cannot play. My review will remain negaive until they fix these issues.
I actually defend Steam's 30% cut. I hate the PlayStation, Xbox, Apple 30%, and even Epic's 12%. The difference between those is that Valve reinvest the money in the platform and doesn't make you pay for online play. Epic hasn't done anything to make their platform better that Steam, so that 12% is _all_ they can afford to charge because even developers don't want to put their games on it with how little sales Epic gets compared to Steam. Steam is just better in almost every way, so it's what people use. Hell, i didn't even bother reinstalling Epic after resetting Windows. Also to those saying that Steam is only better for the user, you're wrong. It's way better for the game maker too, and not just because gamers only touch Epic with a twenty meter long pole.
Kinda split? Like 70% or more hates the nerfs, they keep saying they wanna make it more like a military simulator which goes against EVERYTHING the player base wants. Also if I am not wrong, the old ceo who stepped down to work on the game left for vacation along with a bunch of other devs for the summer leaving a VERY bad person in charge of balancing. Like that person is the reason hello neighbour went from an amazing early build to total glitchy trash (there are other games he has burned down from his spreadsheet balancing crusades, but I don’t remember the names of them)
Hunt deserves it's reviews as it also hiked up the hardware requirements to play, my friends and I can't play it anymore... and they also had the misfortune of being in one of the countries that Sony is restricted so no Helldivers 2 either.
Helldivers deserves that review bomb but Hunt doesnt. Sure i have a love hate relationship with hunt, but besides some new engine bugs and the ui being messy and clunky in parts, it has been really good lately.
Tiktok shop, Temu, and others give low prices because there is no warehouse, in fact, when you place the order for whatever you want, the item doesn't exist yet and has yet to be made by a factory to be shipped to you, that's why shipping times are so long, as there is no warehouse full of the stuff you want to buy.
for reference my old workplace would had a profit markup to prices because it was on bid for like month long projects at 40 to 30% markup litterally no one would take a single offer, thats how high it is normal profit margins are at *most* 15% or such, and thats still high
The Twitch censorship is a basic visual example of how harmful the phrase "if you got nothing nice to say, then don't say it." can TRULY be, it doesnt matter if you were being hateful or calling someone out, either way it's all attacks to the people "they wanna keep safe"
Valves cuts are fine as it's only on their platform, if you as a creator of you're game make keys (which can be done for free) and sell them on a third party website you don't loose any money to the valve cut and valve is actually at a loss since their severs need to host and run thesse keys, Pirate software did a really good vid showing why steam seems bad but its kind of the best.
Could patron sue apple for taking to much of a cut from them or at least sue them for not allowing them to have a third party payment or just sue them for abusing their power
@@amiibojeremiah809 why does being big matter? If anything that is what will make them lose because with all the lawsuits that apple has been facing, patron has a good chance at winning in my opinion
Remember: CS2 has been robbed out of most of its game modes, no operation since eternity, same trash ac without even overwatch and a badly implemented community tab. And I didn't even mention tf2 and the bot plagues
@Sonichero151 They did it using treadmill work. Cs had and has this problem, too. Plus, it didn't fix the core issue because it is almost impossible to do so
@@arandomwatcher8174 read what you sent slowly It's basically impossible to stop cheaters once and for all, so the treadmill work is kinda necessary If valve wants us to keep buying the keys and crates, the least they could do is make the game playable
0:01 valve 3:11 amazon, twitch, pinterest, and tiktok 4:07 twitch experiment 5:25 apples enforcement 6:35 joe biden vs gym subscriptions 7:21 meta killing crowdtangle 7:52 epic on mobile 8:41 at&t rebunking a misleading ad 10:06 review bombing helldivers and hunt showdown 1896 update
Honestly I felt like a game that should have been review bomb at the time of an update was Fortnite. The locker has been terrible all season and them removing rarities was the worst decision ever. Yet it’s somehow still thriving
Review bombing of Helldivers 2: Fully understandable. Game's balancing was brought down to "People like a certain gun too much so we have to nerf it till there's nothing else to nerf". Hoard shooters are power fantasies and turning into a peashooter basically nutters that power. Revie bombing of Hunt Showdown: Negative for all the wrong reasons. People received the biggest in games history that transforms the game in a significant way and adds so much... and yet people only complain that menus now look weird
It's definitely not just the UI. Everything is broken (kinda expected for a new engine) but for whole swaths of people the game is literally unplayable. The menus break and the settings to fix/remedy these issues is buried in said terrible UI.
I can see what arrowhead was trying to do with the flamethrower(s) nerf, but they could’ve went at it at a better angle. Having a primary or secondary weapon that could kill chargers by themselves with no cost whatsoever would just make them omniweapon #2 and #3 for bugs, but they decided to lump in the support flamethrower with the change as well and that made no sense
Unfortunately, a lot of discourse about it can be summed up as most people going “oooouuuggghh the nerfs 😭😭😭 uuuaaahhdhh” with nothing else to add on to
If you're ever having trouble canceling a subscription, call your bank, card company, or whoever and tell them to block the payment. Only downside is that company likely will blacklist which if they made you go that far to cancel a sub i don't think you'd care lol
with the thing about hunt showdown, I think this is a problem with steam only allowing two options when writing a review. You don't get a range of options to rate a game. It's only positive or negative.
Something really cool about playing being a part of the dl playtest is that the limited coverage for such a complex game gives me a taste of what gaming was like before the age of things lole youtube, i cant just look up how to play a charachter i have to play him, get my ass handed to me, and learn and its really fun and unique.
I don’t think Valve ever tried to hide it, considering you could invite anybody you wanted as long as you had access to the game. Dunno why there’s any substantial amount of people on the “just release it” train. Those people are the reason we get crappy asset flip $60 AAA games now.
4:45 I’m in a Minecraft sever failing to spell because someone (admin (not saying who)) one shot my very expensive armour (and me) and I get chat block even tho I said nothing wrong (no swears no nothing) and its because the safe chat thing thinks I’m saying ass because there’s ass in grass
about the 30% cut thing. I've heard from a lot of game developers that they want steam to take the 30% cut mostly because steam is more than just a storefront for their games. Or at least this is what the Dark and Darker devs have said. Those devs had to do much much more work than they should have because of their bogus lawsuit with Nexon keeping DaD off of steam for a year. They slowed down on progress of their game because they had to put in more infrastructure for it that would have been done by steam. These games are using Steam servers for a lot of their features. I do agree if all the developers are doing is just using steam as a store front and nothing else then yeah maybe the 30% cut should be reduced quite significantly. It seems like the DaD devs are happy with the 30% cut so I guess that makes me happy as well!
8:30 android had almost always had third party app stores and as long as I've remembered had side loading. Apple refusing to allow for other app sources is a monopoly.
The Helldivers 2 devs are so worried that the game could become easy that they constantly keeping nerfing the "meta" weapons (which are probably the most used ones). And the community, of course tries to find the best stuff so that they can play the game optimally. Causing a negative feedback loop because the devs don't realize that people want to make stuff easier for themselves and not harder.
i think valve purposely allowed pretty much everyone to play the game, since the way everyone is covering it and such is free attention and potential cash for valve
Question? With the bill involved Is subscription services dose that mean Adobe would have to change they way of canceling subscriptions or would it be the same ?
Helldivers is one of those games that was already perfect. It was perfect at launch. They just had to release it, sit on their chairs and never touch it again. They are literally ruining the game by trying to look busy
Helldivers is surprisingly good, the update is kinda strange, i wish flamethrowers were more useful than an electric shotgun or grenade pistol. Maybe higher range since its so freaking short
the 2 nerfs to flame stuff was pretty justified for helldivers. having a primary flamethrower that would kill 4 of the most common enemies that are supposed to actually do some damage, be entirely negated and meaningless, would suck, helldivers isnt supposed to be an easy game. and they playstyle people use the IE breaker for was spray and pray, so they reduced the ammo reserve so you can still spray but jesus wont be taking the wheel and you actually have to place your shots. helldivers does have alot of issues and bugs but thats not it, im more annoyed about other ways to deal with chargers like rockets which take a long time to get and reload, while needing at least 2 to kill 1 charger when they increased how many there are.
Everything sold on Amazon and TTS these days is just drop-ship garbage. You can skip the middleman by just buying right from China on Ebay or Aliexpress. At least on Ebay you have a chance of getting something good as well.
Helldivers really isn't fun to me anymore. Like, the only weapon that can actually do ANYTHING is the Auto Canon. And there is literally no relevant alternative.
The fire theme warbond also has a flamer i mean a flamethrower that looks a lot like a flamer from wh40k, i am not mad i am scared that games workshop might take action?
Helldivers II was extremely close to being Game of the Year, but at this point, I have NO IDEA who will take it. All the games that people want will come out in the next few months, so there's that. I'm mainly looking forward to The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom.
dont we already have that one twitch were you put in a word that is black listed it either get held for mod review or it censers the word an let the user un censer it themself?
Almost all my comments are now getting held for review after some random AI + content theft content farm reported my "harrassing" replies to them multiple times (like one per comment). So like, yeah, that may be the reason why the same thing happens to other ppls comments.
Also "Valve takes 30% which is ridiculous" no. It's not. As a publisher, publishing a game on Steam is 1000x cheaper on Steam. They dont charge for hosting a download server for your game, they dont charge for ingame purchases, they dont charge for keeping multiplayer servers online. The only time Steam takes a cut, is when someone installs for the first time. Steam is the best place for games ever. The 30% is very generous.
Valve: "Good, good, they are not talking about the number 3 anymore" *rubs hands*
Oy Vey?
I thought they can't count to 3 tho!?
@@kamajuchikekenate they can. they are just shy and prefer to cound in shadow where nobody sees them.
Shalom @@GazDaLad
They gonna make deadlock 2 then abandon it
The agreement to not leak deadlock is not to keep the game secret, its to stop streamers sharing footage of a game that is clearly still very unfinished with several placeholder models, unfinished models with holes in them, and models that dont match the current artstyle of the game. Its not hard to understand why valve dosent want this publicised by influencers.
Most other companies would immediately put it at $60 early access
Epic games lost the lawsuit with Apple which is why Fortnite was not available on Ios until now but the Digital Markets Act of the European Union forced apple to allow third party launchers to comply with EU law
I don’t know why they don’t supply an IPA for people around the world to sideload with AltStore.
@@Butterscotch_96 because apple wants everyone to use their appstore
@@Butterscotch_96You need some special entitlements which require trollstore or paid dev acc/cert
@@Butterscotch_96money
@@Butterscotch_96 because normal people dont know how to do that.
either way there are a lot of websites that let u install fortnite outside of the eu, signulus for example or appdb i think that also has it
Theory: Valve did this on purpose to create more attention, and IT WORKED.
That's what i was gonna say.
Yeah, I agree.
Also, the sustained upgrowth in numbers we see in SteamDB wouldn't be possible either if people are just checking out Deadlock, hating it and uninstalling it. Deadlock right now has impressive player retention numbers and I can see it because this game is addicting. We'll see when the trend stabilizes or when the first drop actually happens
Yeah. They probably did it to gauge how many people would be interested in the game, without directly revealing it.
They did the same what they do with dota2 and csgo open-but-not-really test in 2011/2013
Beneficial Streisand affect
The saddest part is how Helldivers 2 WAS THE MOST PROMISING GAME EVER SINCE 2018...and now the Devs and the corporate are killin THE GOLDEN GOOSE😔
blame the Hello neighbor 2 lead game designer, Alexus Kravchenko, who got hired to work at Arrowhead as the "Bringer of Balance". He killed hello neighbor 2 by scrapping most of the marketed/promised features like neural network AI, open world, sandbox gameplay and game design, etc. He also lied to us hello neighbor fans for the final year of development after getting promoted to lead designer, saying that all the promised features and characters were still in the game.
@@coolwing79sounds like you’re just salty that hello neighbor 2 sucked
I don’t see how every bad change is the fault of Alexus if the only evidence you have given is that he messed up on a completely different game in a completely different genre?
@@OogaBooga24723 hey man, cringe response.
@@OogaBooga24723 If the game had the marketed features and still sucked, I wouldn't care as much. But based on the alphas made prior to him taking over, the game was shaping up to be a genuine step-up from the original. I'm just mad that he killed an entire game and lied to an entire community for little to no reason.
@@OogaBooga24723 being salty that a game you're a fan of was ruined by mismanagement and bad design is a completely valid response.
Deadlock is deadunlocked
Aliveunlock
Steamunlocked
Hahaha,genius!😂
@@benry. Mfw no multiplayer on SteamUnlocked games.
hey feller, can u gave this channel a chance?
Android actually does support third party app stores and always has
Yeah Samsung devices have the Play store and the Galaxy store. Epic Games has the EGS. The Meta Quest has whatever their store is called. And not to mention you can just install any APK from online.
*cries in iOS*
Yeah well that’s android. We know Apple doesn’t like to be a good company for their customers. (Typing this on an Apple Phone)
@@IamW4RL0RD I’m an Apple fangirl. I love how everything connects together. I just wish sideloading and JIT was easier.
@IamW4RL0RD They're bringing this up because Spatnz said Google doesn't allow 3rd party app stores, which is totally false. They may not be fans of it, they've tried their best to get Samsung to give up on their app store, but ultimately they have no control over it.
Apple however is completely closed off without jailbreaking, which sucks ass.
@@xevenwood6553 you actually can sideload but only 3 apps at a time and you have to refresh them every 7 days
Steam takes 30% cut but u as a developer get access to free servers for your game, People can play CO-Op only game online which is pretty huge if u dont wanna remake ur whole game from ground up just to add online multiplayer, Steam gives u Mod workshop if u wanna use that or even Item shop, Support to any and all controllers for any and all games (I played league of legends with controller thanks to steam super easy and cool to set up) Steam gives u info about how many of ur players play on what kind of hardware at any time, Achievments, Voice chat, Reviews, Anti-cheat and im not even gonna start on all the vr features.
Also if ur game makes enough steam will talk to u and u can end up with smaller fee.... Steam is actually extremely good deal for 30% cut... noone even get close with all the features... Every single update u make for ur game costs steam money.
Defending a multibillion dollar company that the only reason why they even exist is by leaching off good games, they made over 144 million dollar from hell divers alone, the company is a leach
Ah yes I remember when i was making a game and I didn’t have to code in multiplayer and make a control layout for controller and keyboard
Ah yes I remember when i was making a game and I didn’t have to code in multiplayer and make a control layout for controller and keyboard
@@Alcholic_catyou're purposefully misunderstanding their argument here. Steam lets you use their netcode if you make a couch multiplayer game, meaning players can play it online despite your game not having netcode. It also allows you to just write generic controller mappings and Steam takes care of the compatibility (to a certain extent)
Its so funny cause i was not invited by a friend for deadlock, valve itself sent me the invite to playtest it, i was so confused cause im not famous in thr slightest
they invited alot of people who played other valve games iirc
I got invited as well, probably my 7k horse across dota and tf2.
Hum no. The invite email always says "Chears, Valve Team" but it is not Valve that sent it. It is one of your friends that had access and randomly invited all his friends list.
The invite email just says something like "Valve invites you to playtest their new game" . But Valve don't actually send the invites.
@@julianojosoa2197 when its a friend that sends the invite it shows their steam pfp and says "insert name here sent you an invite" ive seen it on the server i am and mine was totally different, it didnt show any of my friends, it only said valve
@@julianojosoa2197nope, they say which of your friends invited you
Something to note about the 30% cut most people are mad about is that Apple takes an unfair cut (30%) just because they provide an operating system and store. The phones are (hopefully, considering the price) already covered by the user, but then Apple takes a cut of all apps just because there isn't (now there is in the EU) a competitor to the App Store.
Steam, on the other hand, is only one of the major game stores available for the desktop. You could download any launcher you want considering it is your PC, and even on Valve's new SteamOS, you can install (due to lack of support, a third-party variation of) the Epic Games launcher. Steam takes 30% because they offer services unmatched by any other launcher, both for users and developers. Despite many people believing Valve stays stagnant and just coasts off their store's profits, this is simply not true because they improve the Steam launcher with things such as remote play, Steam Input, game servers, easily accessible reviews, and Proton.
In fact, Epic Games has shown far more monopolistic behavior than Steam ever has, with things like lowering the cut for temporary exclusivity contracts, and even paying out studios to keep their games entirely exclusive. The worst part is that people are only mad about this because the Epic Games launcher is simply worse. The previously mentioned lack of Linux support, the confusing and nearly unusable GUIs, and worst of all the incessant "deals" and notifications that are nearly impossible to remove. Epic Games and Apple both do things that are monopolistic, and at least in Epic Games's case, they don't give much effort into giving users and developers features that would make it a launcher worth using, especially as compared to Steam.
The work they do with VR is worth the storefront alone
steam doesnt even come preinstalled so it doesn't have some unfair advantage as well people have to go and download steam showing intent that people want steam its not just the "default"
@@admiralkaede That's actually really cool, I didn't know that, good on you Valve
6:35 i'd say steam is the only service that actually deserves the 30% cut
they provide a bunch of tools and support for both customers and developers, features such as invites, remote play, mapping for controllers and a bunch of other stuff is a lot more deserving of 30% than people give them credit for
I still think it's a bit dishearteningly high, but I do agree not enough people disclaim all that when they mention the 30%.
Additionally, they are paying that 30% to be on the most popular game provider today, alongside being recommended to people who may want to play.
@SubPriestPepsi many companies take 30% like apple and many more so it's like pretty average steam is not the only one to be taking 30% from in store fees and other stuff. and google too
@@happerexanime1471 Well I did say "dishearteningly" for a reason. I was not making a comment on how fair it was, just that it probably has turned a few people away/ made some people not very happy.
Also, probably shouldn't be taking an idea of a fair price from Google of all companies.
The Steam servers they offer for free with multiplayer games is more than enough to cover that 30% loss. Server maintenance is NOT cheap.
Another thing that everyone misses is that Valve lowers their cut whenever the product does well. Yes, some rather high landmarks, but they'll go down to 25/75 Valve/Dev cut after the first milestone, then down to 20/80 at the second. That's something I hear damn near nobody talk about.
The scout going in the sewers over and over just to die instead of going through the top part and go behind the soldier made me so mad I couldn't listen to what you were saying.
If this is your gameplay, for the love of god FLANK.
My guy it's 2fort. If your brain is on enough to think about things like 'flanks' the you're playing it wrong.
As long as he's having fun
Have i ever tell you about the definition of insanity
@@SubPriestPepsiI was gonna say the same thing lmaoooo
I felt the exact same thing. TF2 players might be braindead.
2:12 Your inner scout came out
elon musk meeting with investors after his companies collapse would be like that one scene in princess and the frog where the guy gets dragged to hell by spirits
I have about 12 hours in Deadlock. It's honestly really solid, Valve may be sitting on a gold mine if they handle the launch correctly.
Unlike Blizzard, Valve is focusing more on the gameplay than on the porn appeal of characters, which is fine.
why can't they do both? I can name every female overwatch character and I haven't even played the game
I don’t really enjoy the try hards and the Russian hackers
Valve's 30% is at least actually justifiable because: they host game downloads, cloud saves, comment sections (under posts and reviews)
Let's not forget how they make hosting games for coop games much easier so the host doesn't have to forward ports while keeping you safe. What I am talking about is Steam Networking which connects players through relay servers that hide the host's IP for DDOS protection and privacy reasons. You also get 24 hour support that is actually helpful. Support also helps developers by informing them of Steam's developer features (achievements, Steam inventory, game cards, and such) and how to use them, and integrate them into their games. I probably missed more things than I listed here but I do not care, this list is long enough.
Saying that Valve should lower their cut is insane
Edit: it's also not truly 30%, it changes based on sales, but also you can find about other features through a simple google search if you'd like to know more
Ah yes I remember when i was making a game and I didn’t have to code in multiplayer and make a control layout for controller and keyboard
@@Alcholic_cat 1. they never implied it did multi for you
2. steam input is just more convenient and is just more likely to work on more systems than your own thing
love that they tunnel IPs through proxies on peer-peer games so your IP doesn't get leaked
1:50 scout holding melee like a gun
you have the most contagious strokes istg
every time you stutter a piece of my grey matter vanishes
at first it wasn't a problem, since it happens to all of us, but fumbling it the second time was absurd.
@@SparkyCas it just gives off the feeling of "i GOTTA get this video out" even though recording a second take doesnt even take that long
I think he probably talks like that irl
@@lukerubrum5618 alot of people stutter, yeah, but its jarring because i swear he never does it. and theres a common trend of people editing out bad takes from their voiceovers so they dont derail anything
Watching him get his ass handed to him by the same soldier over and over is really amusing.
Hunt showdown deserves the review bomb. The UI straight up doesn't work half the time, constat visual bugs in menus. I played on linux (not offically supported) which in game was completely broken. So when i switched to windows to try it, it was still mostly broken. One friend had to downgrade graphics drivers and fiddle with too many settings just to prevent the shadows from being the abyss from dark souls. Other interesting things are a ton of helpful features in menus are gone.
The most notable one being that when connecting to someone in another region (Us west to Us east) the game no longer sets you to that region when in their party. Instead. It refuses to let you in at all until you go through 3 menus in a place the region setting probably shouldnt be. The region used to be on the home page where you did basically everything else. Also you had a backup region which no longer exists. Honestly i think the community backlash from this is valid. The game runs very differently for different people and very popular graphics cards just cant play the game due to the bugs. I dont want to see crytek slip or someone spend money on a game they literally cannot play. My review will remain negaive until they fix these issues.
5:02 Pretty funny to see someone stuttering for a bit trying to say the right sentence.
i was about to say that LOL
remember, scout mains aren't people
Back when I played TF2 Scout was one of my subs. I instead mained Heavy.
Scout is the only one with the Super Shotgun......
Uhh …you’re not human
*desintigrates*
ima heavy main
Mr spat leaving outtakes is so funny
😂
10:19
Makes it feel more human.
@@ch1ppychipp ikr
You gotta stop rushing and dying to that soldier
20K views for Deadlocked is Pretty good. 👍🏻
I actually defend Steam's 30% cut.
I hate the PlayStation, Xbox, Apple 30%, and even Epic's 12%.
The difference between those is that Valve reinvest the money in the platform and doesn't make you pay for online play.
Epic hasn't done anything to make their platform better that Steam, so that 12% is _all_ they can afford to charge because even developers don't want to put their games on it with how little sales Epic gets compared to Steam.
Steam is just better in almost every way, so it's what people use.
Hell, i didn't even bother reinstalling Epic after resetting Windows.
Also to those saying that Steam is only better for the user, you're wrong. It's way better for the game maker too, and not just because gamers only touch Epic with a twenty meter long pole.
0:04 The topic starts
Jee thanks I didn’t want to waste my extremely important time on a 4 second intro
he needs to pin this
The topic ends 15:08
@@clixoerThanks, I hate the topics
This has to be one of the most useless comments ever. You couldn't wait 4 seconds?!
Kinda split? Like 70% or more hates the nerfs, they keep saying they wanna make it more like a military simulator which goes against EVERYTHING the player base wants. Also if I am not wrong, the old ceo who stepped down to work on the game left for vacation along with a bunch of other devs for the summer leaving a VERY bad person in charge of balancing. Like that person is the reason hello neighbour went from an amazing early build to total glitchy trash (there are other games he has burned down from his spreadsheet balancing crusades, but I don’t remember the names of them)
What’s their name?
Id love to play Deadlock some more but I'm enlisted and due to ship out tomorrow...
Valve’s secrets are now exposed to us now!
Ok but Fillet Minion is actually a little bit smart. I can't even argue with that one.
Hunt deserves it's reviews as it also hiked up the hardware requirements to play, my friends and I can't play it anymore... and they also had the misfortune of being in one of the countries that Sony is restricted so no Helldivers 2 either.
Valve? Working on something? Never heard of that.
Helldivers deserves that review bomb but Hunt doesnt. Sure i have a love hate relationship with hunt, but besides some new engine bugs and the ui being messy and clunky in parts, it has been really good lately.
We are getting ever closer to that 1 hour video
As someone who’s apart of the DeadLock alpha, it’s genuinely fun. I went into that game expecting to be a massive hater, but I actually enjoyed it.
Tiktok shop, Temu, and others give low prices because there is no warehouse, in fact, when you place the order for whatever you want, the item doesn't exist yet and has yet to be made by a factory to be shipped to you, that's why shipping times are so long, as there is no warehouse full of the stuff you want to buy.
for reference my old workplace would had a profit markup to prices because it was on bid for like month long projects
at 40 to 30% markup litterally no one would take a single offer, thats how high it is
normal profit margins are at *most* 15% or such, and thats still high
5:02 lol
10:22-10:25 lmao even
Call a bondulance
Sure as hell glad I didn't get on the helldivers hype train.
Can’t wait for Deadlock 2 and never Deadlock 3
The Twitch censorship is a basic visual example of how harmful the phrase "if you got nothing nice to say, then don't say it." can TRULY be, it doesnt matter if you were being hateful or calling someone out, either way it's all attacks to the people "they wanna keep safe"
12:06 don’t forget the devs make fun of there player base after the nerfs…on Reddit or discord
That zuckerberg picture was a jumpscare, bro looked more like a lizard than ever
Valves cuts are fine as it's only on their platform, if you as a creator of you're game make keys (which can be done for free) and sell them on a third party website you don't loose any money to the valve cut and valve is actually at a loss since their severs need to host and run thesse keys, Pirate software did a really good vid showing why steam seems bad but its kind of the best.
As someone in Early access, the only thing I'm gonna say is one of the characters looks like a bobby cop mixed with soldier tf2
Could patron sue apple for taking to much of a cut from them or at least sue them for not allowing them to have a third party payment or just sue them for abusing their power
Apple is too big for patron to fight
@@amiibojeremiah809 why does being big matter? If anything that is what will make them lose because with all the lawsuits that apple has been facing, patron has a good chance at winning in my opinion
Remember: CS2 has been robbed out of most of its game modes, no operation since eternity, same trash ac without even overwatch and a badly implemented community tab. And I didn't even mention tf2 and the bot plagues
Bot plague is over, they cured it
@Sonichero151 They did it using treadmill work. Cs had and has this problem, too. Plus, it didn't fix the core issue because it is almost impossible to do so
@@arandomwatcher8174 read what you sent slowly
It's basically impossible to stop cheaters once and for all, so the treadmill work is kinda necessary
If valve wants us to keep buying the keys and crates, the least they could do is make the game playable
@LoraLoibu I know, but Valve themselves said they don't wanna do it. It could be a bit easier with VAC to blacklist then analyze, though
@@arandomwatcher8174they probably reused the dota 2 smurf tech to just organize the bots for one easy big ban wave.
The title of this reminds me of deadlock battles that MatPat used to attend
10:20 You forgot to remove your mistakes😅
15 minute video! thank you so much Spatnz
0:01 valve
3:11 amazon, twitch, pinterest, and tiktok
4:07 twitch experiment
5:25 apples enforcement
6:35 joe biden vs gym subscriptions
7:21 meta killing crowdtangle
7:52 epic on mobile
8:41 at&t rebunking a misleading ad
10:06 review bombing helldivers and hunt showdown 1896 update
im also in the deadlock test (who isnt at this point) and i absolutely love it, its better than most early access games released on steam :3
Honestly I felt like a game that should have been review bomb at the time of an update was Fortnite. The locker has been terrible all season and them removing rarities was the worst decision ever. Yet it’s somehow still thriving
Review bombing of Helldivers 2: Fully understandable. Game's balancing was brought down to "People like a certain gun too much so we have to nerf it till there's nothing else to nerf". Hoard shooters are power fantasies and turning into a peashooter basically nutters that power.
Revie bombing of Hunt Showdown: Negative for all the wrong reasons. People received the biggest in games history that transforms the game in a significant way and adds so much... and yet people only complain that menus now look weird
It's definitely not just the UI. Everything is broken (kinda expected for a new engine) but for whole swaths of people the game is literally unplayable. The menus break and the settings to fix/remedy these issues is buried in said terrible UI.
I can see what arrowhead was trying to do with the flamethrower(s) nerf, but they could’ve went at it at a better angle. Having a primary or secondary weapon that could kill chargers by themselves with no cost whatsoever would just make them omniweapon #2 and #3 for bugs, but they decided to lump in the support flamethrower with the change as well and that made no sense
Unfortunately, a lot of discourse about it can be summed up as most people going “oooouuuggghh the nerfs 😭😭😭 uuuaaahhdhh” with nothing else to add on to
What if tiktok is just buying the items you order from temu & deceiving Amazon in the process? Wouldn't be surprising to me it is tiktok.
If you're ever having trouble canceling a subscription, call your bank, card company, or whoever and tell them to block the payment. Only downside is that company likely will blacklist which if they made you go that far to cancel a sub i don't think you'd care lol
with the thing about hunt showdown, I think this is a problem with steam only allowing two options when writing a review. You don't get a range of options to rate a game. It's only positive or negative.
Tom literally broke what he wasn't supposed to. The game was never meant to be shown, yet. But you know, Tom Warren things it doesn't apply to him.
Something really cool about playing being a part of the dl playtest is that the limited coverage for such a complex game gives me a taste of what gaming was like before the age of things lole youtube, i cant just look up how to play a charachter i have to play him, get my ass handed to me, and learn and its really fun and unique.
"Press ESC to escape responsabilities."
If only it was that easy lol
I don’t think Valve ever tried to hide it, considering you could invite anybody you wanted as long as you had access to the game. Dunno why there’s any substantial amount of people on the “just release it” train. Those people are the reason we get crappy asset flip $60 AAA games now.
4:45 I’m in a Minecraft sever failing to spell because someone (admin (not saying who)) one shot my very expensive armour (and me) and I get chat block even tho I said nothing wrong (no swears no nothing) and its because the safe chat thing thinks I’m saying ass because there’s ass in grass
about the 30% cut thing. I've heard from a lot of game developers that they want steam to take the 30% cut mostly because steam is more than just a storefront for their games. Or at least this is what the Dark and Darker devs have said. Those devs had to do much much more work than they should have because of their bogus lawsuit with Nexon keeping DaD off of steam for a year. They slowed down on progress of their game because they had to put in more infrastructure for it that would have been done by steam. These games are using Steam servers for a lot of their features.
I do agree if all the developers are doing is just using steam as a store front and nothing else then yeah maybe the 30% cut should be reduced quite significantly. It seems like the DaD devs are happy with the 30% cut so I guess that makes me happy as well!
Deadlock is now in top 30 games
I'm in the playtest for Deadlock and I just wish there was an easy sort of official place to voice your opinion on it.
My buddy a couple nights ago got invited to playtest deadlock. And watching him play at sold me.
I really love how much play-test valve does it may slow down the release but what comes out is a 5 star meal
7:48 Filet minion is actually fucking hilarious
8:30 android had almost always had third party app stores and as long as I've remembered had side loading. Apple refusing to allow for other app sources is a monopoly.
Like 5 or so days ago this bot kept telling me no when I was asking to talk to a real person, the bot was insisting I wanted something else too
i hope deadlock is like a future tf2 after the events of the current game.
So an uninspired bland vibeless version of tf2? Ok.
12:37 "idk you should play it" did you forget how many cheaters play tarkov
Deadlock is gonna be dead on arrival (im part of the closed beta, the sniper class doesnt exist anymore)
The Helldivers 2 devs are so worried that the game could become easy that they constantly keeping nerfing the "meta" weapons (which are probably the most used ones). And the community, of course tries to find the best stuff so that they can play the game optimally. Causing a negative feedback loop because the devs don't realize that people want to make stuff easier for themselves and not harder.
SPATNZ STOP RUNNING INTO THE 2FORT SEWERS YOU KEEP DYING TO THAT SOLDIER'S ROCKETS STOP RUNNING IN AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I actually got a random invite to Deadlock less than a week after looking into it on YT and Reddit.
7:48 that is actually a funny dad joke and that image was not ai generated "filet minion" XD
i think valve purposely allowed pretty much everyone to play the game, since the way everyone is covering it and such is free attention and potential cash for valve
Question? With the bill involved Is subscription services dose that mean Adobe would have to change they way of canceling subscriptions or would it be the same ?
The first rule of Deadlock is you don't talk about Deadlock 🤐
Valve is... different to describe it somehow
Helldivers is one of those games that was already perfect. It was perfect at launch. They just had to release it, sit on their chairs and never touch it again. They are literally ruining the game by trying to look busy
0:23 theirs the legend himself mischief
you forgot to cut out some of the sutters 😭
kinda cute seeing you mess up like that 😳
Helldivers is surprisingly good, the update is kinda strange, i wish flamethrowers were more useful than an electric shotgun or grenade pistol. Maybe higher range since its so freaking short
the 2 nerfs to flame stuff was pretty justified for helldivers. having a primary flamethrower that would kill 4 of the most common enemies that are supposed to actually do some damage, be entirely negated and meaningless, would suck, helldivers isnt supposed to be an easy game. and they playstyle people use the IE breaker for was spray and pray, so they reduced the ammo reserve so you can still spray but jesus wont be taking the wheel and you actually have to place your shots. helldivers does have alot of issues and bugs but thats not it, im more annoyed about other ways to deal with chargers like rockets which take a long time to get and reload, while needing at least 2 to kill 1 charger when they increased how many there are.
Everything sold on Amazon and TTS these days is just drop-ship garbage. You can skip the middleman by just buying right from China on Ebay or Aliexpress. At least on Ebay you have a chance of getting something good as well.
Helldivers really isn't fun to me anymore. Like, the only weapon that can actually do ANYTHING is the Auto Canon. And there is literally no relevant alternative.
Helldivers 2: from greatest shooter game to Overwatch 2
The fire theme warbond also has a flamer i mean a flamethrower that looks a lot like a flamer from wh40k, i am not mad i am scared that games workshop might take action?
Shoutout to the vanishing demo at 4:31
Wait wait I’m just now realizing why my fps became worse and worse to the point I couldn’t play for two months was because of a menu bug!
Helldivers II was extremely close to being Game of the Year, but at this point, I have NO IDEA who will take it. All the games that people want will come out in the next few months, so there's that. I'm mainly looking forward to The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom.
dont we already have that one twitch were you put in a word that is black listed it either get held for mod review or it censers the word an let the user un censer it themself?
The first rule about Deadlock. YOU DON’T TALK ABOUT DEADLOCK!!!
Almost all my comments are now getting held for review after some random AI + content theft content farm reported my "harrassing" replies to them multiple times (like one per comment).
So like, yeah, that may be the reason why the same thing happens to other ppls comments.
Btw people invite each other to deadlock not Valve themselves
Also "Valve takes 30% which is ridiculous"
no. It's not. As a publisher, publishing a game on Steam is 1000x cheaper on Steam.
They dont charge for hosting a download server for your game, they dont charge for ingame purchases, they dont charge for keeping multiplayer servers online.
The only time Steam takes a cut, is when someone installs for the first time.
Steam is the best place for games ever. The 30% is very generous.