I know this is an old video and the uploader has probably learned his baler by now, but I've just found it and I have some tips for running these balers that someone may find helpful: 1. Getting twine to start wrapping - Go ahead and drop the twine arm while you are still moving forward and feeding hay into the bale chamber. You want the twine arm to drop the loose end of twine right into where incoming hay is being fed over the pickup reel, then the twine gets grabbed by the hay, drawn into the bale and starts wrapping quickly. 2. Wrapping - Once you see the twine is being pulled in, stop moving forward, go all the way to the far side of the bale with the twine arm and let it wrap 2-3 rounds, slowly move twine arm (like was being done in video) back toward the home side of the bale and let it wrap 2-3 times there before putting twine arm in home position and cutting the twine. Then back up and dump your bale. 3. Cutting twine - Sometimes that mechanism that holds the knife gets straw built up in it and won't let the knife cut. Just clean it off occasionally (with machine shut off of course) and it'll be ok. 4. If you have more than half a bale in the chamber, don't disengage the pto with the intention of reengaging it without dumping the bale first. Engaging the pto with a load of hay in the baler is just begging for a popped shear pin. Those old balers will still feed some livestock. You just have to learn their quirks and give them time to work. They can't operate like a new $30,000+ machine.
i have one that keep snapping shear pins. replaced the floor guides and oil everything every time. no particular bearing sounds or anything bad. tailgate creeps open too. maybe the bale former tension is too tight? is auto wrap, and that seems to work just fine. love some advice if you have it.
@@fat-n-happy1421 My chain baler was a 846. Couple of things. 1) Are you sure you have the right shear pins? 2) take a real good look at the shaft that drives the apron chains. On mine there is a small plate peice welded to the shaft tube. The sprockets that drive the apron chains are bolted to these plates on both sides. Those welds failed on both sides of my baler over the years. 3) on my neighbors baler. The shaft that is in the floor at the rear of the baler. That's has the sprockets on it that drives the floor chains. It snapped in half.4) On my baler. The roller chain that drives that shaft. There is a idler sprocket under a shield. It gets wound up with hay. Goes out every now and then. My 846 almost never sheared a pin. Letting a bale get to large of course would do it. Or trying to bale hay that was just to wet. I also ran a 850 for another neighbor many years ago. If for some reason you had to shut off the PTO with a fairly large bale in the chamber. Then restarting it would shear a pin say 1 out of 3 times. Something like that. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
I just got to bale my first rounds last weekend, however I've got it easy. My grandpa has a Vermeer 504 Super I, and it has an automatic tie on it. Of course he went many years with an old New Holland chain type with a hydraulic tie on it, so I suppose that's why he went with the auto tie. Got to use an IH 1066, and it was a blast, especially with the air conditioning, something I'm not used to in the field.
really nice ending picture! I think my editor knows how to do that and I got to see if I can figure it out. this was a very enjoyable video. thanks for taking the time to make it and share it. thumbs up from me for sure...
it took me a bit to realize what you were doing with that hand crank ive nev er ran one with anything like that on it but then ive only ever ran a round baler about 4 times in my life and it wasnt for very long
That's right after a couple 100 you'll be able to make them in your sleep. I baled some hay the other day it had me so mad I could... I needed to do some adjusting but didn't have the right tools and rain was coming. so just made do that was the longest it ever took to make 40 bales. oh well enjoyed it sir.
I ran the hand crank on my old baler for way to many years, hydraulic was a good improvement, auto-wrap is even better. I can't wait until I make the move to net. You never know just how much things have improved, unless you have run the old technology. The phrase "the windrow makes the bale" is most true with the 850 and 851 balers.
@@michiganfarming1955 yep, make your windrows perfectly straight, and 5ft6in wide, consistent all the way across, and you will have perfect bales every time. Lol
Is that 2nd cut? Idk if I would put hydraulic tie if I was up grading I think I would do the electric tie it’s much faster and any tractor with one SCV can bale hay
U and ur dad crack me up every baling video LOL so does that arm just move the string across the bale in a spiral? How does it go about cutting the string? Nice video
Jake Ziegler haha we but heads but we always have a good time. Yeah that’s how it wraps the bale. I’ll work on a video explaining it better when I bake 2nd cut
get an 855 much better balers. my 1 friend has a 851 & it made bad looking bales . + those 855's can have the auto tie. my friends son has 1 & he likes it..
I know this is an old video and the uploader has probably learned his baler by now, but I've just found it and I have some tips for running these balers that someone may find helpful:
1. Getting twine to start wrapping - Go ahead and drop the twine arm while you are still moving forward and feeding hay into the bale chamber. You want the twine arm to drop the loose end of twine right into where incoming hay is being fed over the pickup reel, then the twine gets grabbed by the hay, drawn into the bale and starts wrapping quickly.
2. Wrapping - Once you see the twine is being pulled in, stop moving forward, go all the way to the far side of the bale with the twine arm and let it wrap 2-3 rounds, slowly move twine arm (like was being done in video) back toward the home side of the bale and let it wrap 2-3 times there before putting twine arm in home position and cutting the twine. Then back up and dump your bale.
3. Cutting twine - Sometimes that mechanism that holds the knife gets straw built up in it and won't let the knife cut. Just clean it off occasionally (with machine shut off of course) and it'll be ok.
4. If you have more than half a bale in the chamber, don't disengage the pto with the intention of reengaging it without dumping the bale first. Engaging the pto with a load of hay in the baler is just begging for a popped shear pin.
Those old balers will still feed some livestock. You just have to learn their quirks and give them time to work. They can't operate like a new $30,000+ machine.
Buffalo Rider, I had one of these balers for years. You described it perfectly. I calculate that I made over 6,000 bales with mine, over the years..😊
i have one that keep snapping shear pins. replaced the floor guides and oil everything every time. no particular bearing sounds or anything bad. tailgate creeps open too. maybe the bale former tension is too tight? is auto wrap, and that seems to work just fine. love some advice if you have it.
@@fat-n-happy1421 My chain baler was a 846. Couple of things. 1) Are you sure you have the right shear pins? 2) take a real good look at the shaft that drives the apron chains. On mine there is a small plate peice welded to the shaft tube. The sprockets that drive the apron chains are bolted to these plates on both sides. Those welds failed on both sides of my baler over the years. 3) on my neighbors baler. The shaft that is in the floor at the rear of the baler. That's has the sprockets on it that drives the floor chains. It snapped in half.4) On my baler. The roller chain that drives that shaft. There is a idler sprocket under a shield. It gets wound up with hay. Goes out every now and then. My 846 almost never sheared a pin. Letting a bale get to large of course would do it. Or trying to bale hay that was just to wet. I also ran a 850 for another neighbor many years ago. If for some reason you had to shut off the PTO with a fairly large bale in the chamber. Then restarting it would shear a pin say 1 out of 3 times. Something like that. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
@@fat-n-happy1421 Read what Roger replied. He has had more experience with it than I have - he's described more variety of problems than I have had.
@@rogercarrico4975 thanks for the reply. ill check it out
Cows don't care what the look like when the snow is flying...good job..
Mark Cornell thank you
I just got to bale my first rounds last weekend, however I've got it easy. My grandpa has a Vermeer 504 Super I, and it has an automatic tie on it. Of course he went many years with an old New Holland chain type with a hydraulic tie on it, so I suppose that's why he went with the auto tie. Got to use an IH 1066, and it was a blast, especially with the air conditioning, something I'm not used to in the field.
Hell yea bud! Looks good! That's pretty neat to see I've never seen one with a manual stringer thats gotta be fun lol I bet the 15 is just loving it!
Ford Farmer it’s so fun I’m gonna ad a hydraulic tie lol! 15 is loving her new buddy lol
"O you got that recording?"lol...that's real life on the farm.Great video.
That was funny, he backed away like he had a gun pointed at him. Lol
Warren McKnight thanks man! I did an uncut video so you could enjoy the mistakes and screw ups lol. Thanks for watching
really nice ending picture! I think my editor knows how to do that and I got to see if I can figure it out. this was a very enjoyable video. thanks for taking the time to make it and share it. thumbs up from me for sure...
Soybean Farmer thanks man!
it took me a bit to realize what you were doing with that hand crank ive nev er ran one with anything like that on it but then ive only ever ran a round baler about 4 times in my life and it wasnt for very long
That's right after a couple 100 you'll be able to make them in your sleep. I baled some hay the other day it had me so mad I could... I needed to do some adjusting but didn't have the right tools and rain was coming. so just made do that was the longest it ever took to make 40 bales. oh well enjoyed it sir.
I think you’re getting the hang of it. The second bale looked pretty good what I could see through the pipes.
Massey1105driver thanks man!
Massey1105driver - it's all about figuring out the new machine, a learn as you jump on a new adventure...
I ran the hand crank on my old baler for way to many years, hydraulic was a good improvement, auto-wrap is even better. I can't wait until I make the move to net. You never know just how much things have improved, unless you have run the old technology. The phrase "the windrow makes the bale" is most true with the 850 and 851 balers.
Mark Groth I’m planning on a hydraulic cylinder to run the stringer
window makes the bale still holds true with even the new balers!
cowcamp87 thanks buddy! I’m gonna make them much bigger next time!!
@@michiganfarming1955 yep, make your windrows perfectly straight, and 5ft6in wide, consistent all the way across, and you will have perfect bales every time. Lol
We have a 855 new holland with a electric actuator to tie it and ours has air bags that we have to fill up everytime we go to bale
Lol practice makes perfect I've never used one great job
Jeanne Luddeni with practice I’ll get better. I think I did good for my first time!
Looks good lol that was pretty funny with ur dad lol that's sounds bout like me and my dad lol have a good one
@Todd Hoskins u bet
Makes a decent bale. Keep at it and youll get good in no time.
marchindy practice makes perfect.
I'm going for beer and chips, can I take your truck!!!! Lol
LVF Northern Wisconsin Farming and women too! Lmfao!
Yeah not with my truck!!! LOL
LVF Northern Wisconsin Farming pick up chips in a Chevy pick up chicks in a ford
Jake Ziegler lmao Jake!
Jake Ziegler got that right!! Ford gets the women!!!
Is that 2nd cut? Idk if I would put hydraulic tie if I was up grading I think I would do the electric tie it’s much faster and any tractor with one SCV can bale hay
Smalltown Farmer88 it’s a little bit of oats and grass. I’m gonna do some looking about electric tie. Personally to me I like the hydraulic tie.
I dont think id have the patience to run one them lol
cowcamp87 not with a manual tie lol
U and ur dad crack me up every baling video LOL so does that arm just move the string across the bale in a spiral? How does it go about cutting the string? Nice video
Jake Ziegler haha we but heads but we always have a good time. Yeah that’s how it wraps the bale. I’ll work on a video explaining it better when I bake 2nd cut
Got it all figured out? #WorldsOkayestFarmer
Going to be baling my first time
get an 855 much better balers. my 1 friend has a 851 & it made bad looking bales . + those 855's can have the auto tie. my friends son has 1 & he likes it..