THE SPAS-12, The World's Most ICONIC Shotgun
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- The SPAS-12 is without a doubt the most iconic shotgun to have ever been made or designed. It's used in almost every video game and movie you can imagine. However how effective is this very interesting weapon? The SPAS-12 is without a doubt perhaps one of the worst designed shotguns to have ever hit the market
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I remember that in Half-Life the Spas-12 fired two shots at the same time because the creators thought the tube was another barrel
ammo conservation be damned, you felt like a death-dealing god when you hammered that doubleblast, but that is pretty funny that valve mistook the magazine for a second barrel, where did they think the shells were stored then? In the balls?
@@Knifegash Gordon Freeman's badassery was all that gun needed to stay loaded. 😂
I remember this lol, and the mp5 had a grenade launcher
I was so confused by it lmao. "Where the fuck does the other bullet come from?!"
@@tb87670 i honestly thought that was a real attachment for the mp5 before i learned about guns
Thumb: does drill
Charlie: does drill, fucks it up slightly
Micah: claims he can do the drill better, redefines what an A-zone is
Well that escalated quickly
Noice comment 😂
@Hulk Hogan o7
@hulkhogan5256 Maybe the real false flag was the friends we made along the way.
@Cog The key is distinguishing between the individuals who are actually responsible and not blaming an entire people like a leftist would do, such as the guy you're replying to. National Socialism is leftism by definition and that guy, judging from his other comments, is pretty sympathetic.
I always love when Mike says “if this is your only gun get out there and train with it” cause I just imagine this totally improbable scenario where the SPAS-12 is literally the only firearm that this metaphorical person has, and not gonna lie the longer I think about it the longer I begin thinking they may also have a pet velociraptor
The SPAS-12 is the only shotgun I own so I got very familiar with it. lol
I did, indeed, train a lot. And I also have Muldoon’s hat. Just missing the raptor.
@@gameragodzilla Ford's got one they can sell you. It's not scaley, or bipedal, or a killing machine, though.
@@brandondavis7777 ironically Ford's most notorious killing machines are not named after predatory dinosaurs/birds. Instead they're the bean and the equine. They do get an honorable mention for one that sounds suspiciously similar to grenade, so that's something.
Given how much they cost and their popularity with "nongun" fps gamers, I can see it
I'm pretty sure a lot of us would like a pet velociraptor.
Garand and a few of his people were at a meet and greet yesterday, tons of people, he took time for every person and a genuinely nice guy. Love the channel.
That's flannel daddy for ya
For a few seconds I was like "Damn, Garand is still alive? And going to meet and greets?" Then I realized you weren't talking about the weapons designer lol
I'll always remember how bad ass that shotgun looked in Jurassic Park. Sadly we never got to see it blast a raptor 😭
O.0
Well if she wasn't such a clever girl, we might've 🤷♂️
Moral of the story: Always go into combat with your weapon fully readied.
also in left for dead and half life
Clever girl…
Italy has blessed the world with two things- glorious food, and glorious guns.
And italian women
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Badass cars and motorcycles.
We have more than two things my friend 😉 un abbraccione dall italia
My brother in Christ don't forget the cars 😂
Fun fact - the heat shield of the Spas12 was used in Aliens on the colonial marines primary weapon the M41a1. It was used as the 30mm under over grenade launcher receiver. To think the props department were tearing apart spas12s in order to make a movie makes me chuckle , given how rare they are now
I mean, they're probably rare for good reason. If they worked well they'd probably be everywhere. Economics of scale and all that jazz
That is funny though
The live firing props were built around full-auto Thompsons as well, imagine the cost to replicate one now.
Enjoyed the video!!
2 things to add that i wish you had noticed is… if the hammer is forward the loading gate will be lifting it each time you enter a shell and will be stiff and difficult! It was designed so you would load one in the side of the receiver and then into the chamber first so the hammer is back and this then makes the loading gate 300% lighter and just as soft as any other shotgun i have come across. Also when loading shells you only have to hold the round gate release button NOT the magazine disconnect button also! This is why your shells are difficult to get in or don’t always go in! As you are holding the disconnect button that will essentially cover the magazine opening!Honestly this shotgun is easy to load! As easy as a 870!!Yes the button is not convenient but easy.
And to add when people say it wont cycle on low power ammunition its not really true,if the guns clean and piston oring in good shape along with the correct length shells (2/34-70mm) it works fine with any shell i have used including very low gram birdshot.
I know its not your own gun so you cant know everything! This is more for people interested in buying one or need advice on there own. Anyway thanks and keep the videos coming! We love them :)
I didn't know the SPAS-12 comes with a grappling hook, that's pretty cool.
i blame charlie for this
Issa vibe
lol rly?Never played FPS games?
If you ever need to mount a wall, just chuck your Spas up there!
@@maddog7012 Well it was not designed for that its for one hand shooting.
I own a SPAS-12 myself. It takes a lot of time to understand how it works and what you need to do to maintain it and make it work, but once you get past that, it is a shotgun that’s pretty unique.
Now as for why the SPAS-12 needs to hold down the bolt release, the reason is how the bolt hold open works. The carrier latch prevents the lifter from going up if the tube is empty, but also means if you want to access the magazine to load, you have to move the carrier latch out of the way. The Benelli M4, being a newer shotgun, had some extra pieces that keeps the carrier latch depressed so you can load. But it’s also why the bolt hold open and loading from the tube doesn’t work unless you either pull the trigger or hit the shell release.
That being said, I found you can single load shells with your hand on the firing grip by cupping the shell in your palm, pressing the bolt release with your thumb, and them pushing the lifter up with the shell, then loading it in.
EDIT: Also, don’t push in the magazine disconnect to load the shotgun. You just have to hold down the bolt release. In fact, the magazine disconnect would slightly block loading and make it more difficult to load. It is a pretty complicated shotgun, though, so not a rare mistake to make. Older semi auto shotguns all had the requirement to hold down the bolt release to load so people were used to it then, but now that it’s no longer necessary for modern shotguns, it’s outdated and archaic.
Hey, good to see you here too! You commented on my SPAS-12 video a bit back
@@0dayExploit I know. lol
I do wonder how the SPAS-12 would fare once people get more training on it, though what I’d like most is a modernized version that fixes some of the niggling issues.
@@gameragodzilla SPAS-15 was supposed to be that modernized version, but stupid AWB/GCA. Other than that, an upgraded Benelli M3 would be the closest thing, I think. Neither of those have the amount of style that the SPAS-12 has though
@@0dayExploit Yeah, I’d love to have a SPAS-15. Fucking ATF.
But even just a SPAS-12 with an updated gas system and removing the necessity to hold down the bolt release to load would be nice.
@@gameragodzilla one question though, could you fire slugs safely with this shotgun?
Got mine back in 1984-85 ish. Really always liked it. She sits in the safe now days but its nice to pull it out now and then. While loading on mine you only press the round shaped button. That other button you were pressing is a round catcher used to prevent a round from jumping into the loading gate area, Good video Thumbs up~John
I owned one in the 80s as well and I didn't have to depress the mag cutoff button either. I recall it being a bit of a pain to load but not as much trouble as they're having.
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Spas 12 has two modes
-Semi auto for moderate damage (left click)
-Pump mode for heavy damage (right click)
Combine this with a revolver and a crowbar, plus a certain orange suit, you'll set for fighting imminent threats
Half life 3 confirmed
No, you need an Uzi and 1911 long slide.
"combine"
I love how the SPAS-12 in Half Life is a "Double Barrel Shotgun".
Man, game devs in the 90's really did just slap anything together they thought was cool and didn't understand guns.
In thier defence the black Mesa universe runs on magic I mean how do you even hold a barnacle gun or better yet why dose the saw literally make you float from the recoil?
smh he should've used the half life hecu camo during the intro
Ever played black? Every gun is like that. Rails everywhere and flush fit mags with like 100 round capacity. Best of all I think the advertising called it “gun-porn”
Fallout devs don't understand guns to this very day
@@jacopoabbruscato9271 Are you trying to tell me the laser rifles and plasma weapons aren't real! Next you are going to say the Broadsider man portable naval artillery cannon isn't a actual thing.
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We had this shotgun in our arsenal at the US Embassy in Nassau back in the 80's (along with the Remington 870P). Nobody wanted it because you couldn't combat load it.
Any chance it’s still there? I’m sure a lot of locals and tourists would love to rent and shoot it at a local gun range.
@@TPDManiacXC626 I don't imagine an embassy would be bothered to handle the hassle of renting out and collecting back guns.
Thats why I sold mine..
Lmfao yeah never knew this went to fire one at a range that was renting one out…yeah, its not the best shotgun to be using under stressful circumstances. I personally rather have a 870 cause I can slam in 6 rounds in 2 seconds thanks to modern speed loaders, or about 8 seconds otherwise. Spaz…at least 15 plus just to top a tube
@@tankiller9638 is a speed loader just a tube with shells you thumb into the magazine?
SPAS-12 was forever burned into my memory thanks to Jurassic Park. Surprised you didn't recreate the iconic scene for the video!
Put Charlie in one of those dinosaur costumes.
CLEVER GIRL!
@@theproofisoutthere3884 I was about to say the same when I just found you comment.
1986 The Hitcher with Rutger Hauer.
I remember seeing that hooked but and the "tacticool" front grip.
oh man this totally sounds like an idea for him and Scott from Kentucky Ballistics to collab on
Ian on Forgotten Weapons beat him to it.
Schwarzenegger didn’t have a problem with the SPAS -12 in the Terminator lol
I own the fixed stock variant spas 12 and love the fact that I have a piece of firearm and pop culture history. The loading for the first time was a learning pain but afterwards I learned to load it fairly quickly. The only thing about my spas is the operation selector button being weird/stiff moving it from pump to semi but it's easy going from semi to pump 😅
Remove the barrel and pump from the heat shield and check the gas valve as well as the channel within the pump grip. The way the conversion works is there’s a channel in the pump that the tip of the gas valve rides in. Moving the pump back turns the gas valve so the gas ports are closed, thus no gas is bled off during firing and the action stays locked. Moving the pump forward turns the gas valve the other way so the gas ports can now push gas onto the piston and cycle the action.
If it’s stiff, I recommend spraying some CLP or lube onto the gas valve, which should loosen things up. If it’s particularly bad, SPAS-12 Project does have a video on disassembling the gas system for deeper cleaning. It does require a specialized tool to do it, though, and it’s a pain in the ass even with said tool so I recommend only doing it if absolutely necessary.
@@gameragodzilla thanks! I'll try those out and see if the function is better afterwards. I'll post an update on it when I get a chance!
I was involved in the British Army;s trial of this in the 80's. looking at a replacement to swan off , used for taking doors off, car stopping. Awesome bit of kit
I’m not super familiar on variants but it seems like the SPAS-12 could definitely benefit from a “gen 2” so to speak. Most of the issues could be simplified and make the shotgun much less obsolete. It’d be interesting to see how a dual operation shotgun could perform and be developed today.
Well there is the Benelli M3 which is a semi and pump still in production.
Spas15 lol? 🤦♂️
It did get a Gen-2. It's called the SPAS-15 and not only did the 15 have better ergonomics, it kept the hybrid system and threw out the mag tube and replaced it with detachable box magazines. The problem is that the company, Franchi, went out of business a few years after release, so the only ways you can get your hands on one are to either be Italian police or to know a guy.
Benelli M3 if you want a gen 2 version of a Franchi SPAS
@@davidlocke1668 I just looked it up it doesn't look like a spas 12 it looks like a ordinary automatic rifle and gets rid of the foldable stock which 12 was known for it doesn't even retain its heat shield look
I remember as a kid watching Jurassic Park when I first laid eyes on the SPAS-12. I’ve had love for it ever since🤝🏾
It sure is amazing
You can't imagine the disappointment on a young boys face, when he brings out the fancy shotgun, you think he's about to layout a bunch of raptors, and boom, he dies lol
“Clever girl...”
I've had three of these through the years.. ( wish I still had one) Never ever had a problem loading quickly. I know they did have issues with them. mostly the safety.. Thanks Mike!!!! NOW I MUST HAVE ANOTHER!
I was a Marine Combat Engineer, and we did use grappling hooks. I will never forget the look of awe on every grunts face when they heard that and thought we used them for climbing. We actually used them to drag on the ground and look for trip wires or ieds.
I have owned my spas for a handful of years now and I’ve put roughly 4k through it with the desire to become effective with it, learn it’s failures and ultimately make myself and my example reliable. My gun is unlike any other spas and I like to think I am autistic enough to make it work as a defensive shotgun.
Now as a student gunsmith at CST I can only hope to build a name as a specialist in the spas for my fellow owners. I sure to enjoy making hundreds of hours worth of efficiency modifications and dozens of parts!
good luck, i salute your determination.
Thank you this gives me hope
I know SPAS-12 Project manufactures a lot of parts and upgrades for the gun, so if you can contribute further, I’d be a happy customer.
you can bump fire it on safe
@@ghostface5559 Original safety, yes, but the new crossbolt safety, no.
The cinematics are what I come for.
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@Hulk Hogan thanks hulk
speaking of cinematics how about that moon landing??
107% not. They're gay as fuck.
Gross.
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I preordered mine in the 80s and had to wait almost a year for the first ones to be imported. I don't know what you are doing, or if your copy is defective, but mine loads VERY easy and quickly. you missed one of the features of the sights, it is not only a ghost ring (for 00 buck) but has a notch at the bottom (for slugs). the hook is to be folded off to the left or right when folded to be used as a side handle for shooting 2 handed, put in the position you had it in, for hooking on a car or truck seat and folded back for use as a carry handle. I have taken many deer with mine, and always take it hunting in bear country, just in case of unwanted visitors. for a combat shotgun I prefer a Mossberg 590, but the SPAS 12 would do, in case you're interested, the docs that came with mine called it a Sporting Pump Auto Shotgun 12ga or SPAS 12. it came with a takedown tool and the longest plug I have ever seen along with a heavy canvas sling. several years back, I was able to find all new o rings and Buffer for mine, made of much better material which has given mine new life. the barrel is also Chrome lined on mine.
Reloading is not as bad as you made it look. With the stock unfolded, flip the gun upside down in your right hand like loading a normal shotgun. Using you right thumb, press only the bolt release, and load shells. Cycle the action and you are ready to fire. You don’t need to press the magazine cutoff to load. It’s not as good as the m4 but it is not as bad as everyone thinks. It does have a complicated manual of arms, but I love it anyway
I figured it couldn't be that dumb
This is true. The "combat button" on the side is all that needs to be depressed to unlock the feed ramp.
Yup I have a SPAS 12 it’s not that bad.
Maybe it's like an older Russian sami-auto shotguns...when there is first round chambered, ramp unlocks... I don know, just gesing...
Ah yes , my favorite trait in a weapon ,physicological fear
as a board-certified physicologist
Flamethrower operators have entered the battle.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
How the hell did Arnold Schwarznegger handle this gun with one hand, and actually handle it with relative accuracy even when he was using full power blanks? Insane
He was a very strong man back in the 1980s
Garand thumb receiving garand thumb from a spas 12 shotgun
Noice
I love your content and have followed for years. I saw a few people already mentioned you don't have to hold down both buttons to load so I'm not going to beat that horse but the second button you were squeezing was the magazine disconnect. you hold that to prevent the next shell from loading into the action from the tube. The "quick safety" is actually an action release that allows you to open the action similar to a rem870 or other shotgun with a locking action. They could be used in combination, such as you want to fire a less than lethal/breach round/slug or oddball round but you have a tube loaded with 00 buck and you don't want to unload the entire tube just for a singular round that you will chase with buck anyway so you flip the action release, hold the disconnect, and lock the bolt to the rear ejecting the current shell and allowing you to hand load your shell of choice directly to the action. I have had my SPAS since 2016 and love it. It will shoot winchester low brass value pack out of it but it doesn't like "light load" or "low recoil". Keep up the awesome content though 🙌 when i first started watching your stuff it definitely inspired me to train better.
Here is a vid from my insta of a buddy shooting cheap federal out of mine in semi auto.
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The amount of media this thing managed to work its way into despite its flaws is impressive. Modern Warfare 2, Jurassic Park, Girls Frontline, Half Life, Matrix, only the Desert Eagle comes to mind for weapons that have been able to do the same on looks alone.
You can get her in Girls Frontline at level 70 for clearing the story and by god she’s worth it. Sabrina Franchi my beloved.
It reminds me of the M202 Flash in that way. You might know it as the Grim Reaper from Black Ops. It was said to be a technical nightmare and never saw service, which is probably why it was so common as a prop! It's even featured in Star Wars!
Lol it amuses me how two firearms that are nearly never used in reality for their flaws made it so far in pop culture for how "cool" they are.
literal chinese advertisment
@@killermouse01 they just have this powerful presence, which makes them good especially for movies and videogames, where design language is obviously important to get across what something does.
when you look at the desert eagle, you just now one bullet could fuck you up hard, even if it's not a lethal hit. same goes for the spas-12 design and on top it's a shotgun which already is seen as a powerful weapon.
Guys you kill me with your review. Just one of my issues I have, you guys state you need to press 2 buttons in order to liad it. Yes one button does need to be pressed in order to load, it's only an issue for someone that has no knowledge of the weapon at hand. The same cam be Saud just about any weapon. Give a person with absolutely no firearms knowledge, I. Sure they will fnd it difficult to load a revolver. That 2nd button is a magazine feed stop. In the event your next round needs to be changed. You simply press the tube cut off button and load your the ideal round of your choice, what other shotgun has that feature. Again we talking about a weapon designed in the 80's. Let's not fault the weapon for a person lack of knowledge on operating the fire arm. Like any other weapon, following the operation manhandled oractice goes long way. A semi auto hand gun operates different than a revolver, a pump shot operates different than a pump, a lever action, operates different from a mumps or semi auto. You have people with lack of knowledge going solely on reviews they see, not understanding the person reviewing the weapon may not be fully knowledgeable on the weapon and all orist errors are operator errors not the weapons. The Benelli M3 is the closest to the operation of the Spas. They took a great design and made it better. This is simply evolution gentlemen. Please be aware of the facts im stating. The only reason my spas 12 is no longer my go to is because of capacity. I own also the Utas 15 and Saiga 12. I love the fact of having 20 round drum. But I'd rather have a high capacity tube fed over a mag fed shot gut any day only do to the fact having to carry e Tra equipment magazine. In the event for what eve4 reason you are innthe shit and you are running Ning and gu Ning and you drop your mag, now you have a high in single shot. And it's easier to tactically reload a tube gu over a mag fed one. How many extra shot mag can you carry. I'd rather focus on just carrying extra ammo. So my Spas 12 is 2nd to the Utas 15 only because of capacity. Any issues I have had with short stroke the UTAS 15 waa user error not weapon error. So again let's keep it factual. And what killed the spas was the important band.
More familiar with the Law-12 but pretty sure the spas had it, the "magazine cut off button". I thought it was really interesting and practical. It allows you to push it and when you cycle it manually, or shoot, it will not load the next round and lock open. This allows you to direct load a specialized round, drop the bolt, shoot it and your OO buck from the mag loads right behind it.
SPAS-12 has it, too. They're having trouble reloading because they're pushing it in and obstructing the magazine.
Try keeping that thing fed under duress. No thanks.
My Supernova has one. Comes in handy.
A lot of shotguns had them, my semi-auto '54 Browning Auto-5 has one as well, along with a bolt release and a speed loading gate.
Used to be pretty common on bolt action rifles too, usually military ones. When they first introduced magazine loading rifles in the military soldiers usually were banned from loading from the magazine, they had it loaded but used the cutoff and single loaded rounds. The magazine was only to be used when ordered by an Officer which was usually only given when enemies were getting a little too close or they were about to get overrun.
A lot of shotguns had them, my semi-auto '54 Browning Auto-5 has one as well, along with a bolt release and a speed loading gate.
Used to be pretty common on bolt action rifles too, usually military ones. When they first introduced magazine loading rifles in the military soldiers usually were banned from loading from the magazine, they had it loaded but used the cutoff and single loaded rounds. The magazine was only to be used when ordered by an Officer which was usually only given when enemies were getting a little too close or they were about to get overrun.
That moon landing argument was funnny as AF! 🤣
The way the spas looks, despite being a semi auto 12 gauge, it just radiates raw brute intimidation. It just looks like it's more powerful, probably why it usually is in video games lol
Edit: if looks dictated performance, the Spas 12 looks like it can shoot down a fighter just by pointing it
Every time i see one, all i can think off is that the heat shield from the SPAS-12 was used to conceal the cut down M870 on the M41A Pulse Rifle from Aliens.
That and the police station scene from Terminator.
"despite being a semi auto 12 gauge, it just radiates raw brute intimidation"
Despite? Semi-auto 12 guages are generally intimidating as a rule.
@Steven Bobby Bills you're right, I just mean there's plenty of other semi auto shotguns out there but damn if the Spas doesn't win the looks department
@@MugenZeroX I'm partial to the appearance of the Benelli M4 Super 90, myself.
@Steven Bobby Bills it's definitely a gorgeous shotgun but there's something about the chonky spas boi
Gordon Freeman reloads this gun like a boss. I guess you needed a PhD to do that smoothly.
Second barrel not included.
Gordon Freeman's was also a double barrel... apparently.
@@bmw328igearhead that shotgun in HL was a modified spas 12 that black mesa made for it's security/expeditionary forces.
That's my headcanon anyways, don't ask me how the thing would actually work XD
1000% correct.. I own one and think I'm pretty proficient with it..had to totally rebuild it as buffer let go within 3 rounds when I first got it...lot of fun, great piece
One of my Army buddies has one of those. Years later we were in the mountains at a public range circa 1999 many years before you could watch youtube and see this stuff, I had the SPAS-12 in hand (it's a brute, you better do your curls), and my glock in my thigh holster (yes it was that long ago). I start walking up and firing the same time obliterating the target and when complete, transition to my glock to finish it off. When done I clear the glock and holster it and then check that the SPAS-12 is clear. I turn around to walk back to our table and then notice that everone on each side is just staring at me mouths agape, my buddy and I were just cracking up.
Today I learned you can also get Garand Thumb from a SPAS-12 shotgun. Thank you Dr. Mike.
Not only iconic in MW2 but the best movie ever made... Jurassic Park
Clever girl
This guy speaks for me! Haha
Hell yeah!
Underrated character
Jurassic Warfare
SPAS 12 owner here. You only need to push the round button to unlock the magazine well cover, not 2. The second serrated button is used for keeping a shell from leaving the magazine tube if the shooterwanted to load a specific round ahead of what's in the mag tube (e.g. less than lethal). This may have been causing some of the loading pain! I do agree that having to hold that round button is a pain too! I have the shot diverter too! RLTW
I struggled watching him try to use both buttons lol😂😂😂
I don’t know about that early version of the Spas 12 with the lever safety but the later ones with the button trigger safety do not require depressing two buttons to load just the one on the left side and it’s loads smooth as butter when the tube is clean..
I actually got the spas 12 before the covid and the absurd price upsurge, a gentleman was selling this full stock shotgun locally for $1500. My shotgun came with a cross bolt instead of a lever switch. Remember that little button that you need to not only release the bolt but load as well? Mine came with a aftermarket button that it kinda big but useful enough that you don't need to strained yourself with that little button did before. I was really stoked when I got it, but was surprised how much they're going for today, no plan to sell it since this shotgun was on my bucket list to get. =D
Someone needs to make a reproduction version.
Edit: one that is actually reliable and easier to use.
Like the SA-35, improved but enough parts compatibility to be able to say "That's a SPAS-12".
@@alexwalker2582 yes.
Pease start doing more shotgun videos. I love shotguns they never get the credit they deserve, and are rarely talked about.
Love the paralegal loop hole talk. Thanks again for another masterpiece
If you’ve ever ran around on MW2 using only this, go ahead and hit that subscribe button
What about those of us who only used Scavenger Pro with the tube?
This gun in Black Ops was ma shit.
@@predetor911 And the campaign has a version with dragons breath rounds, one of the coolest things I've seen in any video game
Your reviews are great, but the 3 of you interacting in videos is a friggin’ national treasure😂
5:05 “That was actually 4 shots” I believe he was going for a Half-Life reference due to the fact that in that game you have a “both barrels” secondary fire option.
You don't have to hold both to load. But you do need to make sure the hammer is cocked that will make it so much easier to load. 1 side is a magazine cutoff the other is a bolt release you don't need to hold both you only need to hold the bolt release/loading door release. The magazine cutoff is so you can load less than lethal rounds while not feeding from the magazine. I have a spas and although it's not an m4 it gets way more looks than the m4 lol
A favourite of particle physicists worldwide.
Gordon doesn't need to hear all this. He's a highly trained professional.
“Clever garand thumb”
*raptor screeches*
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the slow-mo sound of the spas-12 operating is so... GOOD
I bought one when they were first released for
Honestly that $500 bucks back then was equivalent to $5000 in today's monopoly money lol...
Who remembers 199$ aks. Back in pre 2010 and 2012
@@AK4974U I do and I regret not buying one at the gun show. Several boxes full of oiled up AKs from some god forsaken Balkan country. One hundred and fifty dollars each. "Meh" I say as I go oggle a G3 "I'll get one later". I think about that alot
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Many gazillions of years ago when I was a young dinosaur myself and in the police academy, another cadet wanted to use his personal SPAS12 to qualify for the shotgun portion of our training. His personal example exemplified the word "SPAS" as in "spastic" because he had nothing but trouble getting the beast to function on a regular basis. I don't remember if he was able to qualify with that boat anchor but I DO recall thinking that WTH would any Rich Kid who could afford one in 1985 dollars want to be an AZ State Trooper for a puny paycheck? To this day I wondered if he stayed with the job and, furthermore, if he was ever able to qualify and carry that GREATGOBSOFGOOSESHIT.
Under rated comment, extremely based.
Flip side to that, kudos to him for loving shotguns. Most modern recruits are scared half to death of shotties and always p*** out and take their carbines.
Which is a bad bad thing up here in AK. Most of us "old timers" and also the born and AK raised still reach for 12ga first.
I happen to know someone who was a DPS Trooper around that time. And I can picture her reaction to that debacle...🤦♂️
@@JD-tn5lz I would also take a rifle over a shotgun for many instances. ESPECIALLY if I was a cop. Your reasoning is poor at best. Elaborate on why shotguns are better.
Richard Johnson...several reasons.
I've seen .223 go clean through people, then through interior drywall, and out through exterior walls. There have been "friendly fire" incidents with cops too. Buckshot and even slugs won't penetrate 3A body armor....223 will.
The mindset of "million dollars, million dollars" every time you pull a trigger is a necessary one. You are accountable for every round you send downrange, morally if not financially, or both.
Second. Even though a .223 can actually kill a brown bear, it rarely provides a lethal (as in immediate death or incapacitation) wound rhe way a 12ga does. I have seen .223 actually sheer off a bear's skull into neverneverland. Yes, bears have been killed with .223, but the reason why it always is news is because it IS news...man bites dog, etc. I have shot bears with 12ga, it's highly effective when you do your part.
Shootings are exciting. Even professionals send plenty extra downrange. There are always plenty of unaccounted for bullets at every LEO shooting I've investigated. It's a semi-automatic weapon that will usually fire as long as a very excited person will pull the trigger. There's almost always extras.
12ga pump users rarely shoot more than twice, often only once. If you hit your target square, you almost always know the fight is over before you send the next "million dollars" downrange.
ARs are very reliable, but they aren't very rugged. Go hike a trail during a rainstorm, cross a swollen creek, go fall into the mud and suddenly you are legitimately concerned your AR may not work. Yes, I've seen that happen too. Remember, in most LEO and nearly all private person involved shootings, you don't have a platoon of Marines to back you up in case if your stuff breaks. Every thing has to work Every time.
Frankly, 12ga are more intimidating to perps also. ARs should be, but for some reason they aren't. I have had people literally trip themselves and fall face first into the dirt when faced with my shotgun. Twice. Funny as hell and other cops thought I shot them. Didn't need to. The not needing to is an important plus...idiots will sometimes take chances against an AR (they obviously shouldn't) that they won't dream of against a shotgun.
So should LEOs have ARs available? Absolutely yes. Is it usually the best tool for the job? Usually it isn't.
The best advice Mr Garand can give us if you don’t train you’ll pie 🤣
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I love how the cinematic quality and hilarious script of the intros have become so par for the course that people don't even comment on it nowadays, so lemme just say it; THESE INTROS RULE.
Are you related to the Zombie guy? 🧟♂️
@@darksu6947 Nope, it's a really common last name in Latin America. But who knows, we might be distant cousins
@@jorgelopezromero9622 I was only asking because you look a lot like him. Hopefully you never turn into a zombie because you seem pretty cool 🧟♂️
Franchi also makes great Bolt action rifles but the Spas 12 is definitely what they're known for.
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@@MyCatFooed Nice reply!!
@@sovietrussia3632 nice shirt.
The spas is up there with the jackhammer in how much sheer badassness it radiates.
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Charlie if you go to mcdonald observatory they can bounce a laser off a reflector astronauts left up there.
I'd argue the double barrel shotgun is the most iconic shotgun ever designed but hey its only been used since 1819 and used in thousands of films/video games/ and still used for hunting today.
Ah yes, the one single recognisable model/manufacturer of double-barelled shotguns used in all those(?)
This is one of my all-time favorite shotguns. I’ve owned one for many, many years and I will never get rid of it. Thank you very much for the video.
You only have to press the round button on the right side to release the loading gate. the 'button" on the other side is the magazine cutoff switch and pressing it might be why you're having trouble loading it? Otherwise something is wrong with your gun! It shouldn't be that hard,. I'd suggest cradling the gun under your right arm, hold the receiver with your right hand, press the load gate button with your right thumb, and load shells with your left hand.
Fun fact, the reason the loading gate is locked is because it's integral to the loading cycle and locking the bolt open on empty. during operation the bolt gets held back by a tab on the rear of the loading gate, and the loading gate is held shut my a sidebar. When a shell leaves the magazine and presses the side bar that releases the loading gate, allowing it to be force upwards as the bolt return forwards.
True. I wondered why he was pressing both buttons.
Hello from Portugal. Love your videos Garand Thumb. Can you make a video of the Fabarm STF12 ? I think that shotgun it's a excellent platform, use it in pratical shooting IPSC shotgun and also dual gun. For sure you will love it too.
Hey, you! You are so strong, I’m proud of you. I know things have been hard but you are so powerful! I believe in you. You didn’t come this far to give up now. Everything is gonna be okay. Please, just take a breath and try to relax a lil bit. You deserve to be calm, relaxed and blessed
I like how in Jurassic Park Grant takes a few shots and it jams/is inoperable. I think that fits with the gun and the theme (over reliance on complex engineering systems)
I've read the book and watched the movie multiple times each, and I don't recall Grant ever using a gun. I don't think the SPAS was even in the book if I remember correctly, just the rocket launcher. And in the movie I don't remember Muldon ever getting a chance to fire the gun.
@CluelessBird101 when they are in the control room Grant shoots at the raptor coming through the glass. It's fired off screen when they are on the phone with Hammond.
Everyone remembers it being In Jurassic Park and sometimes the Terminator but shout out to the Hitcher (1986) using it in a great finale; a shotgun best used in the hands of the bad guys.
And The Wraith (1986) used by Charlie Sheens character to shoot up some cars in a garage
Why does the gravel kick from 4:54 sound exactly like minecraft lol
This SPAS12Thumb channel is the best on TH-cam!
"Garand Thumb doesn't need to hear all this, he's a highly trained professional!"
Come for the opening scenes stay for the loading/fitness tips. 💀
Owned this gun a while ago, but hated shooting it for all the reasons listed so I ended up selling it. Great video, it reminds me that I made the right choice.
Reading the manuals is important in the section loading and unloading in capitals and bright red "YOU WILL FIND LOADING MUCH EASIER WITH THE GUN COCKED"
And you only need to press the carrier latch button. The magazine cutoff is for unloading.
Yup, i was wondering why did he push both button while reloading then complain the process was hard
I love the light hearted and humorous take to these videos. Just a few guys on the range having fun and we get to come along, hang out and have a great time.
I had a SPAS in the UK many years ago, when we were "allowed" to have such things.Used it for PS courses of fire, I never had a problem speed loading it, I was actually complemented by an sf operative for my gun handling. it also cycled on bird shot, it never malfunctioned on me once always used auto, liked the low recoil. I liked it a lot. Interesting that GT doesn't rate it but I completely get where he's coming from, nice funny review 🙂
I watch these videos for Charlie's comments
A year later now I'm busting my ass watching this one.. Thanks I needed a chuckle.
God blessed SPAS-12, the beauty of many films. This thing may require some reworking to shoot and function, but dammit its worth it. Truly a classic.
The only thing that comes close is the mp155 Ultima
It's indeed tragic how they made such an incredibly beautiful shotgun that also is so terrible.
Why is it terrible?
@@randylahey1581 Garand Thumb explained in the video exactly why. It is because you need to flip the firearm to load in shells which means you cannot keep it aimed down sight. If you need an better explanation, in call of duty you can aim with a weapon while reloading. With the spaz 12 because of the way you need to reload upside down, you cannot aim down sights with this firearm and reload at the same time. There are a few other reasons, but that is probably the main one.
@@snaketv1715 Ahh okay I only got to watch the first few minutes of the video so I didn't see him loading it. Sounds like a pretty shitty design
@@snaketv1715 he alsop reloaded it wrong, you just hold the bolt release, not the disconnect
It's not terrible. Just obsolescent. I own one. It's perfectly reliable and not too hard to figure out if you give it time. If you want a terrible shotgun just look at the cobray terminator
Hi you don't have to press two buttons ... you turn the over and press the round button to load shell the little button is a mag shut off so you can load a blank in the chamber and if have the right barrel end you can fit ganades and gas.
I love the level of wholesome and education in these vids LOL 23:56
I don't even watch comedy series anymore, because you three are top notch entertainment
The SPAS 12 is truly glorious. My uncle had one, he was on LAPD swat when SWAT itself as a concept was in its infancy. It was among the first "tactical" teams in the United States. Anyway, story was he took it out of the evidence locker and never brought it back. I think the closer to the truth story is that while the SWAT team was being formed they were testing and evaluating a bunch of weapons, and a bunch of them ended up walking out in officers trunks before inventory control was a thing.
Statute of limitations is up, sue me
That's about right. Scumbags claiming to enforce law were/are themselves breaking it. Sad
LAPD absolutely the filthiest police force in the country
Unsurprising, considering LAPD SWAT was formed in response to the Watts uprising. Basically they hired a bunch of cops from the deep south, those cops did some racist shit in LA, people in LA fought back, and LAPD called for California Guard backup and formed SWAT teams. Literal tanks showed up in LA in the 60s because they were so scared of the people they kept beating.
Or heroic American bucks the law to rescue shotgun from government service and eventual destruction
@@wraithwyvern528 Heroic armed agent of the state as part of a unit formed to crack down on racial minorities
Garand... I'd love to ask you... Have you ever tried the black out defense "zero" trigger? As in zero creep, zero grinding, just a super short light crisp pull and reset, like it better than my geisley triggers, tell us what u think about it pretty please?
Fitness message really hits home for me, currently recovering my fitness after 2 going on 3 years of recovery from a weight lifting accident & injury. Everything that you’ve said is true & even though I might not be able to lift 850 lbs again I’m hoping to be able to lift 2-300 lbs for work and be in good enough shape that I can carry the gf to the car and up the flight of stairs into our apartment when we finally get hitched 😎👍👍
Garand Thumb please keep it up with the excellent life and lifestyle advice man😎👍👍
Also happy 2️⃣0️⃣2️⃣3️⃣ man, I’ve got a little catching up to do now 😎👍👍
I remember years ago finding a SPAS-12 for sale in Norm, Oklahoma on Armslist. I was in contact with the guy and was about to finalize the sale when the town got hit by a big tornado. I never did get in contact with the seller again. Of the many shotguns made through this is the one I am looking to buy the most.
The company that makes these things should definitely start making them again they'll make so much money in less than a year
Or at least license it out to another US company since they probably don't want to get hit by another "assault weapons ban" like they did last time.
@@Hybris51129 i love how they tried to get around it by claiming the spas 12 was a sporting shotgun
Import regulations in the usa today cannot have a folding stock or hold more than 5+1 on import. Thank the 1989 922r and 1994 aw ban
Used to shoot my dad's in the early 90's, had the A2 stock, 21" barrel, ridiculous but lots of fun, he got it to run low brass, even birdshot, from memory it was a extra O-ring in the gas port or something like that, also when you released the bolt from lock it'd slam the handguard fully forward, Preferred the Winchester 1200 pump for any real usage other than plinking.
11:27 btw in GTA Vice City it actually shooting in such horizontal pattern, and many gamers there considering that it's a bug in the game 😁
love how much better this channel has gotten over time.
Looks like it runs flawlessly! I remember when these could be had for $500
Feeling old?
@@JD-tn5lz LOL, Sometimes
On a side note for one of the sponsors, I recently bought a Savior dual rifle case. It's pretty great. Amazing considering the price.
I remember some gunshops here in my country Argentina sold SPAS-12 and SPAS-15. I was young and have the opportunity to hold both models, it was so cool..
Although part of my genetics is Brazilian Argentina is amazing and the perfect place for a Second Amendment. It's really dumb that anywhere with beautiful mountains and outdoors can't drop by a store, buy a bunch of guns and go up in the hills and have a great time. Falls on Argentina to represent SA in the World Cup today so TORCA ARGENTINA!
@@BB-yh5rd Lots and lots of gunshops and gun ranges here in the '80s and '90s/early '00s. But 20+ years of social and economical decay combined with anti-gun goverments made things difficult for the arms community.
@@me.ne.frego. Lived in Brazil late 80s and early 90s ... not a great time no Brasil economically either. I was way up in Salvador but news trickled up there about Argentina. South America always in my heart, amazing people despite difficulties. I spent most of my life outside of Brazil in Rocky Mountain region, Patagonia when I visited back then was a once in a lifetime experience. Argentina a beautiful country.
Love you dude, pushing 20K on the treadmill watching you, forgetting I was tired, going for 10 more !
Nothing like blasting the combine to save City 17 with the 2 piece combo
Thanks for this! My dad had one of these a long time ago. Never had the opportunity to shoot it. I learned a lot from this video!
I had one back in the late eighties, I never recall having a hard time loading it. Totally enjoyed the magazine lockout for hand loading a particular shell. I didn’t have the folding stock. Was a great gun when I was a kid but looking back I should’ve bought a browning citori. Fun but stupid really. Zombie apocalypse I’m all in but otherwise unless you’re in combat it’s just dumb for pest control.
Glad to still have one of these