Can You Hear a Difference Between 1763 & 2021 Cello? | DON QUIXOTE by R. Strauss (Leg. ESP, POR)

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  • Today we are going to compare two brilliant cellos! One is from the year 1763 and the other one is from this year, 2021!
    The 1763 is the cello that I play the most on, it is a Jean-Baptiste Lefebvre, build in Amsterdam.
    The 2021 is build by my great friend Julio Cesar Vesper, and is a copy of my 1763 instrument. What a powerful cello...
    So here goes the question: CAN YOU HEAR A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN an 1763 & 2021 Cello? Which one do you like more, and why? Extremely looking forward for your opinions!
    This is going to be a very interesting cello comparison!
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    0:00 Intro & Useful Info
    2:42 2021 Cello - Theme
    3:33 1763 Cello - Theme
    4:20 2021 Cello - Variation I
    5:08 1763 Cello - Variation I
    5:53 2021 Cello - Variation V
    8:00 1763 Cello - Variation V
    10:05 2021 Cello - Finale
    11:07 1763 Cello - Finale
    12:09 Conclusion
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  • @barbara_vdW
    @barbara_vdW 2 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    Both instruments are fantastic! The new one sounds brighter and stronger, but also nice deep tones. The older one more mellow and darker, like a wise old guy. I hope for you that you can keep them both.

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Wonderful opinion! Thanks! Good news is that they are both mine, so I can keep them forever 😃

    • @barbara_vdW
      @barbara_vdW 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@IliaLaporevcellist Good for you!!! 2 gorgeous instruments 🧡

    • @Foodpermaculture
      @Foodpermaculture 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@IliaLaporevcellist what is the secret to living forever?

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Marko Lukic Music is the air that we are breathing! And be happy!

    • @urbankotto9685
      @urbankotto9685 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes i agree.Some parts is better for one and some is better for the other one.

  • @karybakk
    @karybakk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    The newer instruments are like bright and happy like little kids. The older instruments are refined and treasured with many stories to tell when played. Just love listening to the older instruments and how not much has really changed from a physics standpoint from 1763 to 2021. I am always wondering how many cellists played on the 1763 made cello and how it was passed on through the years. Your playing is also absolutely beautiful and I could listen to you play all day!

    • @HollyFurgason
      @HollyFurgason หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was thinking that the newer cello was playing music but the older cello was also telling stories.

  • @brixiex2580
    @brixiex2580 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    immediatley noticed the deeper, robust sound on the older cello. mmmmmmm beautiful

  • @stevenj9970
    @stevenj9970 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Awesome!!! Great comparison of both. Naturally the antique Cello has a more open sound, more ringing and depth because at this point after 200 years it should be broken in ;-)
    The new Cello sounds very good and will only get better with more playing obviously. I will say, the new Cello is one of the better new instruments I’ve ever heard ! Kudos to the Maker he has a brilliant future!! And for you - it’s awesome that you are highlighting a modern maker and also have an exact copy of your old instrument!!!

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Totally right! I am going to make a part II of this video. One year later, wondering how the new instrument will sound. But nevertheless, I couldn’t believe when I saw and played for the first time on the new cello. What an powerful instrument. Julio Cesar Vesper (the maker) has indeed a brilliant future, and he is so young! He is a bit older than me and already you can find wisdom into his instruments. And he is so humble!

    • @mziv112
      @mziv112 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@IliaLaporevcellist have you made a part 2? im really interested to hear the difference after some time that the instrument was played and broken into :)

  • @MattPointO
    @MattPointO 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The overtones with the older one is insane. What a special instrument.

  • @janismcrae7767
    @janismcrae7767 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Such wonderful instruments in the hands of a master musician! The older cello is deep rich and full of color. The new cello has a clear more defined sound. If only you could be around to play it after 200 years! I love them both!

  • @upotien4958
    @upotien4958 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's amazing 😍👏!
    Thank Remy to make me know you! 🤗

  • @dees3179
    @dees3179 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So good to see someone playing 7/8 professionally. A lot of people near me insist I should buy 4/4 but I ignored them. What do they know, they are only professionals!?

  • @pauljohnson6233
    @pauljohnson6233 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I play both cello and euphonium so Don Quixote is a great example of amazing writing for both. And bravo, I enjoyed your playing very much.

  • @carlsonmatthewt
    @carlsonmatthewt ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy doesn't cease to amaze me. I'm a singer (Bass), and I consider him one of my teachers.

  • @cellolion6631
    @cellolion6631 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful workmanship, and sound, and much appreciated power and dynamic range ! Obvious comfort for Mr. Laporev comes with his own original, and a creamier sound that comes from this lovely well-aged cello! I'd like to hear more sustained sounds near the bridge in Don Quixote, if both cellos will allow that, and then contrasts of bow velocity with bridge proximity/distance. Thank you for this great film!

  • @Ilja-oblomow
    @Ilja-oblomow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! Ilia, ¡Qué bien te suenan esas dos almas arbóreas! Una sombría y sabia, la otra llena de juventud e ingenua y fresca credulidad en el mundo. Los dos no pueden cantar igual, cada uno tiene su alma única. Maravilloso trabajo del Luthier. No quiero saber los precios :-)! Abrazo fortísimo !

  • @lindsalba1
    @lindsalba1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing playing! I love Don Quixote. I was surprised that for me the 2021 cello was my favourite in many of the passages, it's a superb new cello; but the 1763 was more special in the wonderful Death of Don Quixote passage.

  • @stevenj9970
    @stevenj9970 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ohhh. Can’t wait for this one!!!

  • @anic.proulx
    @anic.proulx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love both sounds but I don't know if it's because you are more used to playing with the old one but I could definitely feel more emotions into that one. There is so much vibes into it. Like telling its history. Thank you so much for sharing.

  • @heitordias4091
    @heitordias4091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video and production, Professor! 👏🏻👏🏻

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much dear Heitor!!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @ixanviolin6542
    @ixanviolin6542 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both its amazing ❤❤❤❤

  • @elderlourenco-biomusica3644
    @elderlourenco-biomusica3644 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gostei do resultado do Vésper, como não tenho o de 1763, fiquei bastante satisfeito com novo e vou encomendar um cello para mim. Agradeço muito por me ajudar a descobrir o luthier

  • @jhonassibila9642
    @jhonassibila9642 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, I really enjoyed you playing both instrument! I could tell that old one you felt more confident! If I have to say something the sounds of both are great high standards! ! I'm gonna say at this point of quality! It's about tastes and personal opinion! Thank you for sharing this wonderful video!!

  • @antonioferrandez9675
    @antonioferrandez9675 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are things that you cant hear behind a screen but, i recognize that is compleatly amizing

  • @arnulfovazquezchavelas2858
    @arnulfovazquezchavelas2858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Muchas felicidades maestro, es una gran bendición por sus Violonchelos. 👏 👏

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Muchas gracias querido Arnulfo! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @phillipam6845
    @phillipam6845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Both instruments are beautiful! I do love the darker tones that show up with the older cello. I think you will be playing your new cello a lot in the next few weeks/months as it develops it's sound

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Both instruments are amazing! If you read the comments, everyone has its own opinion about it, but who really will know, is me :) by the way, I am playing it now more often and it sounds just beautiful! Definitely a part II of this comparison will come! Hopefully in a concert hall!

  • @blackbobby1508
    @blackbobby1508 ปีที่แล้ว

    First of all, you are GREAT! Both instruments sounds fantastic.

  • @olgabauerova3303
    @olgabauerova3303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ilia, it was a great experience for my ears!!! Thank you!!! Subscribed!!! Good luck on what you do in your life!!!-:)

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very glad it was a great experience for you :) Thank you so much! 🙏🏻

  • @JihoonKcello
    @JihoonKcello 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm excited 🤪❤️

  • @jocabed882
    @jocabed882 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    💯👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🎻
    I have put the reminder, saludos y bendiciones maestro Ilia 👋👍

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Muchas gracias! Espero que te guste el video! Saludos y bendiciones!

  • @claudiaochoacruz
    @claudiaochoacruz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think both cellos have different voices, and your playing is so good! Great video. Thanks for sharing.

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much dear Claudia! Muchas gracias!

  • @Pedro-lr9fp
    @Pedro-lr9fp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    amazing comparison, both cellos sound brilliant

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! I am planning to make a part II, but one year later! With the same instruments and same location, or hopefully restrictions will be better and I can do a video in a concert hall!Then we talk business 😎

  • @thomasbranconier
    @thomasbranconier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    both beautiful instruments! The old one is amazing but would love to hear this comparison again after the new one has been played for a few years and the wood has become more responsive and resonant. In 258 years maybe they will sound the same, but we will never know! Very interesting video

    • @malikjohnson604
      @malikjohnson604 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love how these instruments have life and get better with age, how amazing!

  • @blu3fish
    @blu3fish หลายเดือนก่อน

    the new one seems really bright and sharp, the older one seems to be more creamy (which I prefer). Anyway both of them are great. thank you for such a good comparison video. You play wonderful. I would definitely like to download your hq recordings

  • @coldsteelprogressive
    @coldsteelprogressive ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, both instruments sound wonderful and you play so masterly. The older one has a superb lower register that emits enormous depth. It feels like the newer one is more powerful in the mid and upper register and so beautifully velvety. I would choose the newer for melodic pieces and the older for pieces with more rhythmic emphasis. I also found the breathing to be very loud. That's probably because the microphone is closer to the head than the instrument's body. And maybe the volume of the instruments is not particularly high. When I play violin or viola there is no possible way that anyone is going to hear me breathing. :) My cello is in the final stages of construction so this is great inspiration.

  • @GaryBearTexanUSA
    @GaryBearTexanUSA 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Vesper cello makes a brilliant sound and I was surprised by its clarity and response to your playing. The Lefebvre cello did exhibit a warm sound and responded a tad easier response to your playing - but sometimes that can be an illusion for the audience. I believe that both instruments are outstanding in their ways. As for your performance, Ilia, a heartfelt appreciation for your exceptional technique master of the cello must be acknowledged as well. 😊❤

  • @UnequalTemperament
    @UnequalTemperament ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As others have said, both cellos sound great. There is something about the upper register on the old one that attracts me -- it's freer sounding (in general), more complex, and more full/better supported in the second octave on the A-string. I wondered if it might be my imagination, but I went back and listened to the Finale several times and it affected me the same way each time (even when I mistakenly went back to the wrong instrument on the first re-listen).
    That said, they're closer than I'd have thought they'd be and I'm sure that the new instrument will get better and better as it's played in.
    On another note, I am intrigued that you play 7/8 size instruments. Did Shafran play a smaller instrument, or am I imagining that? I've considered trying a slightly smaller instrument in the past, myself, but never have.
    Thanks so much for sharing this - I enjoyed the comparison greatly.

  • @cellist4
    @cellist4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The new cello sounds brilliant! More powerful bright sound than the old cello, which sounds a little more mellow and darker. I think you should use them both for different music. The new instrument will sound amazing for 19th and 20th century works and the older instrument great for older works. Congrats to your brilliant luthier! Enjoy this wonderful copy of your original cello.

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you so much! Yes, Bach Suites I always will play on my 1763, period. But Dvorak Concerto, or even Strauss from the video, I will use the Vesper one. Thanks, Julio Cesar will be extremely happy to see your comment!

    • @adrianroman7614
      @adrianroman7614 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Este si parerea mea ! Instrumentul vechi este ideal pentru muzica camerala , iar cel nou preteaza la roluri solistice, in mod evident ! Felicitari colegului lutier !!!@@IliaLaporevcellist

    • @adrianroman7614
      @adrianroman7614 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is also my opinion! The old instrument is ideal for chamber music, and the new one lends itself to soloist roles, obviously! Congratulations to the fellow luthier!!!

  • @seansamuels7131
    @seansamuels7131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello Ilia, forgive my late reply to this wonderful post. Though the Vesper (2021) is absolutely--without doubt--well made; one can hear how it hasn't yet been seasoned by the touch of Time. In the Lefebvre 1763, one can hear--if not feel--the hand of Time on its voice and physical structure as you play it! The C and G strings are just so resonant and deep like a rich full-bodied red wine. Arrestingly so! You can hear them wax between ancient softness and resonant depth and then, conversely, their powerfully sonorous and masterfully dark range as you play them. The A and D strings have more clear and luminant resonance in their sound yet amazingly keep this lovely and sharp brilliance that seem to burst through the centuries; like sunlight! It's a magnificent creation! I think your Vesper will achieve this only through the caress of the corridors of Time. Seriously, a century from now (2122) is when Vesper will begin to match the Lefebvre. Which, in all things, is as it should be. Question? Did you use the exact same make of strings for both the Lefebvre and the Vesper? Thank you for this post!

  • @christinegerard4974
    @christinegerard4974 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Both are ..perfect and you are a marvelous player .

  • @neominemeth-theomg2763
    @neominemeth-theomg2763 ปีที่แล้ว

    The second one sounds deeper and warmer. I like it better than the first one 😊

  • @samuelsvideo
    @samuelsvideo ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful replica, Julio!
    Within a few years it will “grow” towards the sound of the original.
    I hear more harmonics in the old instrument (especially in the last movement) and I think that’s the reason it sounds more mellow -or more balanced than the new one.
    The new instrument still produces mainly ground harmonics which makes it more outspoken and brilliant.
    Nevertheless, both instruments are a joy to listen to - for sure played by a pro!

  • @philharmonischelautspreche692
    @philharmonischelautspreche692 ปีที่แล้ว

    I prefer the old one. Much richer in sound. Very nice video!

  • @alfredokrausme
    @alfredokrausme 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would like to hear the comparison again on both cellos after the new one has been played for the next 10 years.

  • @jorisArt
    @jorisArt ปีที่แล้ว

    The Vesper is amazing for a brand new cello, and I would give it 5 stars as well as the LeFebvre. Both excellent, both with unique personalities. I think it takes time for a cellist to extract their sound from any cello, and given your 10 year relationship with the LeFebvre, I think the Vesper must be pretty close and quite amazing! This was an interesting video. And congratulations to Julio C. Vesper for an amazing cello (I want one!)

  • @sldaley5692
    @sldaley5692 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This reminds me of my own two violins. My favorite was made in 1949, and has a great bottom end (for a violin) yet is also mellow on the high end. I purchased my other violin from its very experienced maker in 1987, when it was just a couple years old. While I liked it, and choose it from about 5 violins of his, it still didn't have AS great a bottom end, and the high end was relatively more brittle sounding (though with great projection).
    So, I most often played and recorded with the 1949 instrument, but kept the 1985 violin out of its case ready to play almost 24/7 (to age faster, I sincerely believe) and used it on less discerning (outdoor) events and rehearsals. Now, in 2022, I find the newer violin MUCH more mellow and great to play. Now they are more equal, although distinct from each other, if that makes sense. I love that the newer instrument has become so much deeper and mellow in tone.
    So to me your two cellos sound now like my two violins did when compared to each other back 35 years ago. Keep yourself in good shape so that you can enjoy the newer cello at the height of its tone in another 20 or more years!
    And I do agree with the comments that, for a brand new cello, it sounds really great now! Great video.

  • @Paulorlucio18291
    @Paulorlucio18291 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Muito bonito o timbre do Vésper. O lefebvre soa mais aberto na minha percepção, mas ambos são maravilhosos. Parabéns maestro e parabéns ao Júlio Vésper. Que bom saber que existem profissionais desse nível no Brasil !

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Muito obrigado pelo seu feedback! Eu como estrangeiro vivendo no Brasil, só vejo talento e profissionais que amam o que fazem!

  • @Guilhermedetiuki
    @Guilhermedetiuki 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Que bom que tem alguém que reconhece que aqui também tem artistas muito empenhados e talentosos(brasil).
    It is good to know that someone recognizes that the brazil has very worthy and talented artists

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      O que mais tem no Brasil é: talento!! Adoro o povo Brasileiro!

  • @vandalligraphy1300
    @vandalligraphy1300 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic playing sir. The new cello has a bit more defined sound on the higher notes I think. But the that 1760’s unit is perfectly haunting. Bravo man. Keep up the playing. Here here.

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much dear Bob! As I responded at other comments, I definitely will make a Part II of this! One year later in a concert hall! Then I am wondering how it will sound! :) thanks for your comment!

    • @vandalligraphy1300
      @vandalligraphy1300 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IliaLaporevcellist wow I must hear that. I am in my first year with the cello. I’ve always admired it greatly. And it took forty one years to finally begin a journey with one. I’m so very glad I did. I’m looking forward to part two.

  • @guidosc3470
    @guidosc3470 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes

  • @ericoschmitt
    @ericoschmitt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Both sound great. I like the highs on the new one better.
    Why do you chose 7/8? Dont they lose some power on low notes?

  • @annamariedelange7542
    @annamariedelange7542 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am from South Africa
    Both brilliant rich sound
    Congratulations to both the player and luthier
    Which i had one

  • @lenkagamine088
    @lenkagamine088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Greatttt!

  • @Aerolandaircraft
    @Aerolandaircraft ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel the old one just speaks to the audience more, but that's understandable as a good cello improves with age. The new cello, however, definitely does sound amazing and I bet it will be just as good as the 1763 in a few hundred years!

  • @johnlatimer72
    @johnlatimer72 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The bass of the new cello is more crisp and speaks with great resonance. The “a” string of the old cello is sweeter and smoother. So, what is the cost difference between them? And which will you play the most on? Depends on repertoire.

  • @michaelmcleary8566
    @michaelmcleary8566 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Being new to the cello, coming from a guitar background, both sound amazing and I would be extremely happy with an instrument that sounds like either. I needed to watch the video a second time, after which I could hear the warmer yet darker tones of the 1763 cello over the brighter, more vibrant newer one. Any handmade instrument is like a brand new pair of handmade leather shoes, they both need time to mould to the user/wearer before it gets really comfortable.

  • @user-ig1ci1mj6i
    @user-ig1ci1mj6i 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1763 has the deep beautiful confidence of many lifetimes and years with you, and the 2021 has the powerful confidence and beauty of eager youth ready to take on the world. Thoroughly enjoyed this video. You make them both sing so beautifully.

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love this: ready to take on the world!! Thank you so much!

    • @user-ig1ci1mj6i
      @user-ig1ci1mj6i 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IliaLaporevcellist thank you for the amazing music and best cello channel!

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @pablodelia-celloclases4593
    @pablodelia-celloclases4593 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Los dos instrumentos son excelentes. El Vesper suena un poco más cerrado en el registro agudo, porque obviamente tiene que madurar. Creo que en un futuro cercano sonará tan bien como el cello antiguo. Felicitaciones al luthier Vesper, que hizo este maravilloso intrumento y a usted maestro, por tan buena interpretación de Strauss.

  • @333peppy333
    @333peppy333 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My gosh. This 2021 cello already exceeds the original. Can you imagine what this new cello will be like in 300 years? It was a real treat to hear both side by side in the hands of a master.

  • @pianisthenics
    @pianisthenics 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing content Ilia!! Pretty happy that I don’t have this problem since the modern concert grand pianos always do the job!

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! What you say it’s true. But when you have to travel for concerts or other events and you need to adapt each time to another piano (and sometimes terrible ones 😅), that can be frustrating, at least that’s what my fellow pianists says!

    • @pianisthenics
      @pianisthenics 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@IliaLaporevcellist that’s why there isn’t a bad concert grand piano!! Only bad concert pianists (myself included) 🤣

  • @davidtheriault6726
    @davidtheriault6726 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I loved both of the cellos. But to be honest, I didn't think that there was a huge difference in the sound. Thanks for this fun video!

  • @hrafnkellorriegilsson9089
    @hrafnkellorriegilsson9089 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! I liked the 1763 a bit more, a darker, broader / deeper sound, (mellow?) and a bit more balanced. But I'm sure the 2021 will mellow out in the future, It is a bit brighter (like with many new instruments), but I find Julio still has managed to do a wonderful copy not only aesthetically but also soundwise. Bravo. I'm guessing you are gonna be playing it more than the 1763 in the near future (reason: the hazardous life of orchestramusicians can take toll on old instruments? - been there).

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Yes indeed, as it’s a new cello, its brighter. I am wondering how it will sound after a while, so I will make a continuation of this video, like a part II. Then its going to be way more interesting! And yeah…don’t tell me…takes a huge toll! 😂

  • @derwishrenegat743
    @derwishrenegat743 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh, no. This vintage cello is incomparable: it has a wonderful depth of sound, overtones, more metallic crackle, louder sound... The masters of the past experienced the secrets of a wonderful instrument...

  • @malikjohnson604
    @malikjohnson604 ปีที่แล้ว

    I definitely like the brightness of the newer model. When you make the second vid for a one year comparison, is it possible to try a different mic? I think this one is picking up little environment noises which could have the illusion of adding a brighter tone to such gorgeous instruments. Other than the mic, your playing is simply beautiful, rich, full, so much depth and expression. I want to listen to it for hours. I like the subtle pitch corrections on long notes as well. Question: are you using the same bow for both cellos or a different bow for each? Do you think a different or same bow would make a big difference? Thanks for allowing your fans to comment!

  • @ploytn
    @ploytn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    both cellos had a beautiful tone!
    the newer cello was very upfront and power, and handled the lower notes very well and brought out a wonderfully rich tone! very gorgeous to listen to
    while the 1763 cello was more subdued it had a rather dark and rich tone, different from the newer cello - it definitely brought out something different and has a very classic and beautiful sound!!
    both are lovely, and as a cellist it would be amazing to play on either cello!

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What I am questioning myself: how will this new cello sound after a couple of years? Looking forward to start a new journey with the new one!

    • @ploytn
      @ploytn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IliaLaporevcellist yes definitely!!

  • @8thman8
    @8thman8 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonderful. Both instruments were fabulous.
    How much does the new Vesper cost.
    I was curious about the price difference in the cellos.

  • @hernanpagola1885
    @hernanpagola1885 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hola Ilia , los dos son instrumentos increíbles ,pero a mi particularmente me gusto mas el violonchelo antiguo construido por Jean -Baptiste Lefebvre, inclusive se te ve hasta mas cómodo a vos tocando con el ,,voy a comenzar a escucharte y seguirte ,,Saludos !!!

  • @BetterMe981
    @BetterMe981 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful, both. I MUCH prefer the 1763 cello, though. The C and G strings are much more hearty and soulful and the rest of the instrument a more lovely singing voice than than the raw new cello. Boy will the newby mellow in time, though, no worries. Thank you for this wonderful video and the brilliant playing!

  • @felixbryan936
    @felixbryan936 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your copy is very new, and to my ears less rich in sound but will mature especially when so beautifully played. My brand new strad copy just gets better in the 6 months ive had it and they reckon like good wine matures further 5yrs. plus.

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Too new even! Looking forward to make a part II next year! Wondering how the sound will be!

  • @SamuelSilva-vv1bf
    @SamuelSilva-vv1bf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Olá, Ilia. Tudo bem?
    Você está com dois violoncelos maravilhosos. Parabéns! À você pela aquisição e ao Luthier pela construção.
    Dois instrumentos que, pelo vídeo, tem suas características peculiares em casa registro (grave e agudo).
    Faça mais vídeos como este, por favor.
    Um abraço.

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Muito obrigado querido Samuel! Sim, vou fazer um parte 2 desse vídeo! Mas dessa vez em uma sala de concerto e bom, daqui um ano o cello de Vesper vai soar também diferente! Precisa de tempo :) Grande abraço!

  • @AstraLuxfera
    @AstraLuxfera 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I almost gave up on Cello as my left hand would not comply with my 4/4. I bought a 7/8 and the difference is amazing! I can play with no left hand tension.

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Great to have people that are same minded! Same over here! So easy to play and sound projection is equal than a 4/4. Size doesn’t really matter! Thank you for watching!

  • @zymmer4
    @zymmer4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bravo !! Both were beautiful..A blind person could hear the tonal difference with the ancient instrument..however, the modern cello was very fine.

  • @user-qh2zd4fk3m
    @user-qh2zd4fk3m 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am absolutely in LOVE with the 2021. It has such a beautiful voice! I know that will not make me the most popular, but WOW! I would not hesitate to choose the 2021 if they were both offered to me!

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Julio Cesar Vesper (the maker of the 2021) will be so happy to read this!

  • @cellodelo4620
    @cellodelo4620 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Both are amazing cellos, but I like the older better because it has more depth on the C and G strings.

  • @antoniojerezano6110
    @antoniojerezano6110 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Definitivamente el de 1763 es muy superior, me gustaría saber si han logrado eliminar el lobo de la cuarta cuerda y que cuerdas usas?

  • @JohnLee-db9zt
    @JohnLee-db9zt ปีที่แล้ว

    Sound the same to me through my iPad. J/k. Actually the old one was more resonant and notes had more clarity.

  • @flrn84791
    @flrn84791 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great comparison, they both sounded amazing, especially in your hands :D Why do you choose to play a 7/8 cello though? :)

  • @paulemillevasseur7622
    @paulemillevasseur7622 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am surprised how similar of a voice both instruments have and I think I was struck by this more than by anything else. Watching Glenn Fricker's guitar tone blind test videos, I would have loved a blind comparison between these two instruments to really see how easily people can identify which instrument is which. The Luther nailed the copy. WOW!
    The new cello will break in significantly over the first year and it will continue to mature as you play it more. Personally, I'd always go with a new instrument but I'd like to think newer wood means greater durability and stability over time. Older instruments are more fragile and prone to failure, I believe. Just my opinion.
    In your situation, I would probably record with the older instrument and travel with the new one. Store the old one at home where it is safe and baby it like it deserves.

  • @richsackett3423
    @richsackett3423 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I mean, the old one sounds like an ensemble itself. What a magical thing. It's got so much going on. The overtones sound like a violin whereas the new one sounds like a viola and kinda covered. Not close. Almost like different instruments.

  • @jccheloven
    @jccheloven 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The old one is a tiny bit more warm, I think. But it could be a matter of more used strings. It is difficult to say though, as you play with such a stretched bow and pressure. The luthier did a fantastic job anyway.I'm not sure whether I would hear the differende in a single audition or not, at least in my hiifi home gear (I'd expect to have more chances in a live audition). Cheers!

  • @nicolasrahnama6333
    @nicolasrahnama6333 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Both fantastic the 1763, is more rounded darker, and it is 200 years of experience spending.
    Could u tell me what kind of Rosen u using.?

  • @nicolasrahnama6333
    @nicolasrahnama6333 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The both industry stunting the 1763 absolutely has more round and binging played over 200years the the young chello was absolutely beautiful congratulation to the maker stunning work .

  • @brolnt
    @brolnt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good afternoon, dear Ilia, how are you?
    I really liked the video, and what caught my attention was the size of your Cello, which is 7/8... I also have a Cello in this size, however, I've never seen someone playing one... it's more common than looks?
    I would like to know if there are any particularities regarding sound, ergonomics, etc... and what led you to choose an instrument of this size.
    Thank you very much in advance
    Thank you!
    Bruno

  • @carrieannkouri2151
    @carrieannkouri2151 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Both sound very lovely; however, the 1763 has a depth in sound, which is expected given the age. I'm curious to listen to the 2021 model again to hear how much it has opened up since this video aired a few years ago.

  • @jenn2597
    @jenn2597 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You totally should have done a costume change, when playing the 1763 cello, into period correct clothing. Live it up! :D You are very talented, and played both wonderfully!

  • @aristideduplessis8151
    @aristideduplessis8151 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent copy! For a brand new cello it already has everything, and will just grow and grow. Which instrument do you find easier to play? Perhaps you could also get a chance to play them both in a hall?

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks dear Aristide! The luthier will be so happy reading your comment! Very good question indeed! I find it still easier to play on my 1763, as I play it for a while already, and to get the tone and colours I want. Technically wise both are easy to play on. The new one will get mature by time, and our relationship will just grow, and the cello will respond. I wished back then I could make this in a concert hall! But these restrictions…There will be definitely a part II of this. Next year and in a a hall! 💪🏻

  • @sweetlana2125
    @sweetlana2125 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Невероятно! Оба инструмента звучат прекрасно, но по-своему. Старый - имеет более глубокий, насыщенный звук, новый - более звонкий и легкий. Мои поздравления современному мастеру!

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Спасибо большое! Очень рад!

  • @MrArchibald7
    @MrArchibald7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I made a blind test with a point system and the winner is Jean Baptiste! 😻😻😻The new cello is a very pleasant expirience, but the old cello "turn your soul in and out", I could feel the energi rising in a heart chakra that was almost a magic experience! Divine! It was a hard test! 👏👏👏👏🙏🙏🙏🙏

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow! That was deep! 😃 I swear by reading your comment, you almost took me to another dimension! Great words! Glad you liked it! 😃

  • @pauljohnson6233
    @pauljohnson6233 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it's safe to say, outside of a concert hall direct comparison with one instrument played immediately after the other, it would be difficult, if not impossible to tell which one is old and which one new. Such is the quality if the new.

  • @WildBrumby
    @WildBrumby 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    🎼Would be intriguing to look inside the cello with a borescope. Sort of like instrumental archaeology.🎶

  • @jamesanthonydass2487
    @jamesanthonydass2487 ปีที่แล้ว

    New one is brighter sound strong tone ......surprisingly ✨️ 💪 🙌

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  ปีที่แล้ว

      The maker of it will be very pleased to read that!

  • @romilima2
    @romilima2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ótimo! Provavelmente tocará mais com o Vesper para amadurecer e abrir mais o som. Acredito que seja isso. Bravo! 👏👏👏

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Obrigado! Sim! Ja que estou de volta no Brasil estou tocando no cello do Vesper! Mas que facilidade! Igual manteiga!

  • @danielkammererkammerer7946
    @danielkammererkammerer7946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Both of them are amazing and beautiful cellos. The 1763 is very adorable cello with deepest and dark bass with incredible clean high notes. The 2021 is very adorable as well the bass is so strong, deep and dark, the high notes are clean and powerful and also is brilliant.
    So both of then are breath taken cellos.

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed! Both are great! Very difficult for me to choose… 😆

    • @malikjohnson604
      @malikjohnson604 ปีที่แล้ว

      How does one get their hands on an instrument that old??? I can't imagine someone keeping it around for that long and in such pristine condition

  • @user-cv5np9dg8c
    @user-cv5np9dg8c 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    not only cellos but also cellist is great

  • @cathyyang168
    @cathyyang168 ปีที่แล้ว

    The old one gives more musical details but both are great cellos.

  • @javierrodriguezde
    @javierrodriguezde ปีที่แล้ว

    Both nice and excellent
    The new one a little more brilliant but bass like a little spread in compairson with the old
    Not easy with telephone and headphones to distinguish fully

  • @VWJ8461
    @VWJ8461 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The 1763 cello's sound is purer, more like deep human voice singing, while the 2021 one's is clearly bright and crispier; It definitely needs more playing to get rid of the feeling of newness. But I'm still amazed that you play a 7/8 cello. As a petite person I play a 4/4 cello. Sometimes I wonder whether I should switch to 7/8 because of the size of my hand. It's not easy to find a good 7/8!

  • @jollkki4317
    @jollkki4317 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The luthier created an incredible replica. I think Vesper preserved the core sound & look of mother cello and I love them both! ❤
    In a side-by-side comparison Lefebvre is more mature, but surprisingly, although audible, not that much difference overall as I expected. In isolation I think I prefer the lower register of the old one, but I suspect the Vesper's sound projects a tad better in an ensemble...
    They complement each other. 💞 ☯ I'm very happy for you and hope you have double fun playing both!

  • @mburridge01
    @mburridge01 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beyond overtones do you think that the older instrument has a “soul” that is discernable in its playability?

  • @fewpes3783
    @fewpes3783 ปีที่แล้ว

    one hi from brazil :)

  • @douglasslaton5591
    @douglasslaton5591 ปีที่แล้ว

    You seem to have an easier time controlling the old cello - your bow changes are really smooth with that one, whereas you seem to have to work harder with the new one (of course you do very well with either). I like both instruments but I can definitely hear how they are different. I think I like the old one better, but that's just my personal preference (and I think the new one would get easier to play as time went on as well).

  • @manuelgalvanvargas
    @manuelgalvanvargas 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1763 is definitely the best one. I can tell how that wood encloses history and feeling.

  • @shumalumuki
    @shumalumuki 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The vintage Cello sounds really great. But a nice cello doesn't depend on its age. The new Cello is brilliant!!! I am even thinking that this video is an ad for the cello maker. His work is really awesome.

  • @Cyberflute
    @Cyberflute 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like both instruments, they are really fantastic. But the old one have a dark deeper sound that’s touch me more ❤

    • @IliaLaporevcellist
      @IliaLaporevcellist  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree with you! Two years later, the old one is still dark and deeper. Thank you for watching and your opinion!