Since I got diagnosed with autism at 40 and ADHD at 50, I'm pretty sure Neglect Burnout has been a huge cause of depression symptoms in my life. Having no strategies or understanding how to deal with my special needs caused me to waste nearly a lifetime's worth of potential. I'm working hard to correct that now, and maybe salvage a few good decades if (God willing) I have them left in me.
I was completely burnt out throughout uni. I just didn't even have the willpower to take care of myself/ i could only bed rot and seek cheap dopamine. I still bed rot, but I've started learning of other dopamine sources, and I'm using this video to be able to know how to get out of bed
The first time I went to a therapist saying "I think I've got ADHD and am burnt-out", she asked why I thought burn-out rather than depression. At the time, I had trouble answering that, and was more focused on the ADHD part. Now, thought, I know exactly were the difference is for me : I get better when I rest. You get out of burn-out by resting, you get out of depression by getting back into things. And of course, I often have to force myself to get back into things, because ADHD. But the one thing that stays true with the years (I'm finishing my degree in a few month, might finally get some rest actual rest) is this : I get better when I rest.
This is SUCH a good comment! Omg I have the same thing, and I keep feeling like everything will be better if I can get one really good night of sleep, because it’s burnout not depression!
The one type of burnout may be called boreout. And I admit I feel like I got both at the same time... I'm trying to be perfect and overachieving in a work that doesn't fulfill me and fells like it has no sense.
Also, after having a major depressive episode after having a full autistic and emotional burnout... Burnout is always connected with depression. Burnout is clinically categorised in the depression category. So after feeling really worn out you most probably find yourself in a depressive episode were you may need help to find optimism and a positive view on yourself again.
Found this right in the withdrawal stage of ADHD burnout and I could cry to be honest. I don't have a formal diagnosis, but more and more I believe to be both inattentive adhd and on the autism spectrum. It's a lot to take in.
same here, currently learning for university exams and the first day of diagnosis only strats a few days after I wrote my last exam for this semester. I am constantly torn between giving up and making myself work more than I can. And i don't even know if I have it yet, so I can't forgive myself for not doing it because it could just be that I need to get my act together. But it could also be that it was never supposed to be easy for me
YES. A THOUSAND TIMES YES. The only issue is that I have trouble building my own life of autonomy bc I get overwhelmed and over-stimulated very easily.
When I was working as a dishwasher last year, the work was simultaneously very over-and-underwhelming, I think I have been recovering from both overwhelmed and underchallenged burnout caused from that- I had a LOT of menial, but very demanding work to do as I was the only one back there and it was a very popular local spot. I felt so underchallenged and like nothing I was doing mattered to me (literally just cleaning dishes 40 hours a week), but I was also so wrung out and exhausted from having just so much BUSYWORK. I’m still recovering from this work-related burnout since I quit back in October, and realizing the ways adhd can totally affect that has opened my eyes a little. I’ve been recovering as well from a very emotionally intense and laborious situation I’ve been in since mid-December. I’m praying I can find some tips and resources that will help me, I’m so tired of life being so difficult. Anyways, all that to say that ur videos are really really helping a lot of us who are struggling. Thank you for helping me fully process that there IS a way to make life easier for me, now I just need to work on internalizing the idea that I deserve to live life easier haha.
The equal amount of dread and elation I felt at that adhd burnout graphic. Finally a word for it! It just cost me my job and I feel awful, useless, like I'm losing my mind. Just to see written down what I am experiencing gives me hope I can solve this, that it's NOT just me being lazy
I've had inattentive ADHD all my life It ruined school for me, I did very poorly. I never knew I had it until last year because all my symptoms were internal. Nobody noticed. I always just thought I wasn't good at anything.
I don't know how you do it. You always put out content on topics that I need... Right when I need them the most! Not only has this video helped me realize that currently I'm struggling with my adhd and not burnout, but also has helped me identify points in my life when I was burnt out in different ways, and even helped me realize past patterns of adhd burnout.
Thank you so much for your videos. I was just diognosed with innatentive ADHD this week at 51. It makes so much much sense in my life but now im so sad that it took so long to diagnose me and so much of my life has gone by without treating it.
You're not alone there! I found Moira's "adhd friendly lifestyle' podcast very helpful when i was going through my late diagnosis, and i've seen a lot of familiar comments around the interwebs from other late in life diagnosis. Luckily that part is just a phase. Anyway, best wishes on your journey forward!
OMG I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder years ago, and now I suddenly realize it's just that I have combined type ADHD! Going from jubilant energy to burnout type depression/avoidance has mimicked bipolar disorder for more than 20 years for me! My BPD diagnosis never seemed to exactly fit, but no doctors have ever understood inattentive/combined ADHD enough to put it together that this could be the answer. I'm going to bring this up with my doctor ASAP!
Just be careful as adhd medicine can induce manic episodes with people who are actually bi-polar. That is what makes diagnosis so hard with both of these conditions, because they can mimic each other.
I've never heard that you can have both inattentive and hyperactive ADHD before and that explains SO much for me! I've always felt like my bipolar diagnosis was wrong but I just recently got diagnosed with hyperactive ADHD and now I think I'm gonna talk to my doctor about if I could have both instead of bipolar. Hoping they listen to me this time. Thank you, Hayley!
Okay so.. I needed this one. Not that I haven't needed the other videos too. Your channel helps me so much. BUT this explains so much of what has been happening to me throughout all of my years in school. A younger me and current me really needed to know this. Thank you, Hayley 💞🥺
OMG Thank you thank you thank you Took a screenshot of the ADHD burnout cycle as that’s me so much and has been most of my life when it comes to personal /household stuff
Holy cow... This has put into words how I've been feeling for quite some time now and it's so nice to be able to put a name to it. ADHD Burnout.. That cycle is literally me. 😮
I was in a state of underchallenged burnout, but it was made all the worse because the challenges I did have were due to stupidity. Let me explain. I am an expert in a certain field in my career. I was made to work a certain job in a certain way. It made no sense and I used my expertise to explain as much. They dug their heels in. So I was being underworked, undervalued, my expertise was not being respected, I had to do something in a stupid way that I knew was stupid but also no one expected much, and I was also being underpaid relative to the expected pay in that field. You can't bring on an expert, tell them to do something a certain way which makes no logical sense and does not have any basis in research / reality, underpay and undervalue them and have then difficulties arise from someone defending their stupidity, and expect them to stick around.
My ADHD (undiagnosed) has been so much worse lately, feeling extra listless and depressed, and I'm now realising it's Neglect Burnout / ADHD Burnout. It's nothing to do with my job either. It's medical. I'm tired of trying to get help for my myriad problems, being told I don't fit certain criteria for the help I need or want for fertility issues and also struggling to get a formal ADHD diagnosis as an adult. Even though my GP says I have it (they can't formally diagnose), getting referrals to go through for adults on the NHS is so hard it gets bounced back several times. My problem is I fight for a while then get burned out and stop, then pretend the problem doesn't exist. I fought for a while and then just resigned myself to feeling helpless. Problem is I don't know how to fix it when the medical establishment isn't helping me with... anything. So it's probably ADHD burnout as well.
i'd love to see more videos in the future about autism, especially living with autism and ADHD. i found your videos after i was diagnosed with ADHD as an adult, and they are super helpful and make me feel less alone, so thanks for that
Ohhhhhh I made it to the underchallenged burnout part and something made click! I was working as a graphic designer, a position I had been working towards since I started at that company, and every time I asked if I could do some extra stuff that wasn't strictly part of my duties, I got told no 🤪 after 9 months there I had realised that it wasn't the right place for me, but by then I had lost the steam to try and find another role, so one!!! Year later I quit. Just left. And hoped to find another job. Still healing, 1 1/2 years later, and only ready to accept a job that has purpose for me.
Fairly certain this is going from the flight response end of the spectrum to the freeze response end and a person who leans more on flight and freeze as their trauma responses. I recommend the book CPTSD From surviving to thriving
Thankyou so much for this enlightening video! ADHD burnout described exactly what I went through last year. Only recently discovered I'm Inattentive ADHD. I didn't manage what I didn't understand I had before. Hope that makes sense! This video confirmed and clarified so much. Thanks, Hayley!!!
Underchallenged burnout... It comes with a lot of shame because overload burnout sounds worse? Also in a corporate job that gives me no purpose. I decided I'm not going to look for a better job but work on my passion in the evenings which is painting.
What about when I have so much to do that I can't choose and I get extremely overwhelmed and don't do anything? Also I have a very hard time doing anything unless I'm given direction, but I also hate when people tell me what to do.
I hope you know how impactful your content is. As an undiagnosed adult, who started suspecting I have ADHD like 2 years ago, and gets so much doubt about how I "self-diagnosed" for now because getting a test is so hard! (long wait times!) Your videos have helped me understand how to live, and to be less ashamed of my disorganized mind. Your video on rest was one of the most insightful things I have heard from the "self help" sort of content ever, and you are sort of inspiring too. Short version: Thanks Hayley. You help me to function better 🤗
I’m really starting to dive into your videos and am loving them so far. On ADHD burnout, I struggled with depression and anxiety for 4 years through college, then finally my PCP did an ADHD screening. And boy oh boy did I light that bitch up😂 But she explained it very similarly. In late diagnosed women, especially those who are smart, it’s easy to miss in school because A our symptoms can be different, and B our grades are good so clearly not a problem, right? But then, when I went to college, and suddenly couldn’t make easy As without my symptoms getting in the way, my grades were crashing, and I was getting burnt out. It made so much sense and shifted a lot of what I thought about myself and my negative self thoughts. Since then, I’ve been able to focus more on tips and tricks and information like Haley gives, and give myself a lot of hindsight grace.
Thank you for this. I'm currently trying to figure out what is going on with my life right now. Also I would like to say as an ADHD person your son's are very helpful our brains need those extra "oh hey what's that? Oh it's a doggie and a kitty too!!" Moments. And they are adorable.❤
I was thinking about the lights a lot in this bit I thought it was fun and cool and on brand for her colors etc. Very ADHD energy. Idk. You may be right though.
I've got combined too and I adore my hyperactivity phases. I feel so energised and can get so much done. Ok I might be chaotic and hyoer but I feel so much better. Inattentiveness just feels empty to me and its frustrating to be losing things and forgetting things etc. However I have been in burnout for 6 years now and it has been hell. I had been so stressed and exhausted for so long that I eventually just collapsed mentally and physically. Oooh I hadnt heard of underchallenged burnout...maybe thats where I am now after years of doing nothing. Thats really interesting. What I really want to do is go back and do my masters but Im so scared that I will not be able to manage it. Maybe I jusst need to go for it
To be honest... i was distracted by your lamps. For the whole video. Where did you get the color changing one? Now I can finally watch it a second time and listen to what you have to say :D
from this video i think i have a combination of unchallenged and neglect burnout and adhd? i dont know but i have a very important exam in 2 days and me being here explains a lot. motivational videos work for hardly hours? i dunno. i'd really appreciate if anyone of yall share ur experiences on this
Shit…. Just had a breakdown this morning and this describes exactly what I’ve been going through for YEARS as someone who got a late diagnosis right as I moved out of my parents..
11:36 I’m in this picture and I don’t like it lol. In all seriousness thank you for this video, I’m not diagnosed because guess what? It requires me and my mum (likely undiagnosed ADHD too) to fill up a form to bring back to my GP which we keep forgetting to do. I’m pretty sure i have the inattentive type of ADHD and I struggle to do the easiest task until the last minute but i do alright at school so i must be fine 🤷♀️. This has helped me and I’m going to try to set up an accountability system. Thank you again!
I was sooo burnt out and sad about it.. thank you for this video a lot 🥲🥲 Could you also make a video about Autistic Burnout please?? That will be super duper helpful 🥺🙏
i feel like i constantly fall into adhd burnout, with just the smallest things.. some days are great and i can manage almost everything easily, but then soon the crash comes and i am overwhelmed by the smallest tasks with extreme emotions and feel so exhausted, as if i had just done the most challenging thing in the world…just that i didnt. it‘s really hard to manage every day life and keep up a healthy work/life balance like this :-/
I spend a lot of time trying to figure out the root cause of my problems, i have the combination of neurodiversity and chronic physical illness so it's a mess lol. Thank you for this- it's nice to know I'm not crazy haha
Okay. I love this video. But - where did you get that light at the head of your bed? I want it! Sksksksks. I'm self-diagnosed ADHD but I'm still trying for an official diagnosis. Thank you for all you do!
You are valid. I also got distracted by the awesome light, and I’ve been diagnosed since the 80s when girls were never diagnosed, so there’s your proof 🤣🤣
Which course would you recommend first, Back to Basics or Burnout? I am overwhelmed and burnt out with life. But I also have zero routines in my life and I barely take care of my needs such eating healthy, drinking water, and exercising.
I rewound (is that a word?) back through the mindmap actually 10 times because I kept missing it again, and then I just took a half an hour long break from the video to do something on my laptop, then went “oh shit” and came back to this 🙃 I think we found the ADHD! (And the burnout)
Is it really split like this? I've been looking into ADHD a lot recently and I thought that everyone is essentially combined, it's just that some people (mostly girls/women) have really internalized the energy. Like a lot of ADHD women get diagnosed with anxiety first because they had to internalize all of the energy. Do they still have split diagnoses?
They do diagnose types, but I think it’s mostly so people understand they can still have ADHD without hyperactivity, or that traits that don’t appear hyperactive are still part of ADHD. The medical treatments are the same regardless of type.
@hayley.honeyman So I was totally distracted by that awesome shiny light behind you for the whole video. I needs it! 😂 Please tell me where to get it/what's it called. 🤩 Thanks! (Awesome video tho. 😁)
As someone with ADHD Im finding it really hard to stay focused and pay attention to this video, it keeps losing me, Im at the 8 minute mark and I have no idea what going on lol
Bro, I have adhd and burnout, you think I have money for your course? On a serious note, I feel like I have different things for different aspects of my life. Like work, art, personal life etc.
so, what if I tell you I have all three of them AND probably ADHD burnout combined? Is this cycle of ADHD burnout really something only ADHD people go through (I am not diagnosed yet)?
I do have to say, you dropping out of school didnt solved your burn out, it was just a coping strategy that worked. But also it left you unable to deal with it or find healthy solutions to actually deal with it properly
Is there a version of this without that blinding, nauseating light that I can't cover up because sometimes there's text on it taking up half the screen
I know everyone’s discussing really important things here, but does anyone know what that light behind the bed is?? I kind of maybe need it immediately lol
HIm Haykey, I am adhder and autistic, I am feeling lost and depressed with the symptoms, feeling like why do even have to live? kind of midlife existential crisis. I want to get out of this but I have no finance, Could you please help me that How you research about everything and figure out solution?
Ok so if you guys have any suggestions I will gladly take them. So I have asked for help but when my teacher gives me something to read at home and ancer questions on I feel like I can do them at school and then I get home and start to do them and don't have the mentle energy to do them and it is like I have a huge burnout. But I can do my math homework with ease and I have always had issues with reading and rembering what I am reading. Please help Agen I have asked for help from my teacher's and nothing has changed
It could be that you have some form a language processing disorder, or simply are challenged by the act of reading and don’t have enough brainpower for comprehension. Perhaps there’s a way for the information to be read aloud to you.
same situation here omg. i've slowly come to realise its because being with people gives me the much required energy so im hyper focused in class but at home i have 0 motivation. and yeah i love math too. i feel like getting the answer to something is satisfying! i'd suggest u to use websites like study together or something. it gives me that dopamine boost. and regularly try to challenge ur friends into studying something. (ps can we be friends lol)
Thank you 🫶🏻 ive been slowly learning this for myself Yesterday I watched your livestream and 2 more recorded afterwards, all after my first 2 classes of the day.. essentially i spent 11 hours at school yesterday and got a TONE done. Happily taking a burnout day today ✌🏻 its so much better than neglect burnout, thats what i was dealing with for way too long You've helped me in so so many ways, thank you for doing what you do 🫶🏻 Jeez.. I also just realized adhd burnout is the reason I almost didnt graduate high school.. I missed so many days my senior year
I am 4 months away from graduating with my masters and I ~really~ resonated with overload and neglect burnout. And then ADHD burnout felt soooo targeted😂. I REALLY needed this, thank you so much Haley 🩵🫶🏼
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What do you think it is thats your biggest challenge? ADHD? Burnout? Or…ADHD Burnout?
All 3? 🤷♀️ 😂
For the first time in 35 years I heard from adhd burn out. Wow! I'm at the beginning off life.. as a baby 😅 Thank you for making me aware ❤
even after the video i don't know which one i have. thanks still tho. have a good day!
Since I got diagnosed with autism at 40 and ADHD at 50, I'm pretty sure Neglect Burnout has been a huge cause of depression symptoms in my life. Having no strategies or understanding how to deal with my special needs caused me to waste nearly a lifetime's worth of potential. I'm working hard to correct that now, and maybe salvage a few good decades if (God willing) I have them left in me.
hi there, is the burnout recovery program tailored to those of us with ADHD or is it more generalized?
i'm already thankful for this. i. am. SO. fatigued. since... dunno. weeks? months? years?
Same
Same 😢
Facts! It does feel better to know I'm not the only onr
I was diagnosed at 59 (!). I was "a daydreamer who doesn't apply herself" as a child and a flaky, absentminded adult.
I was completely burnt out throughout uni. I just didn't even have the willpower to take care of myself/ i could only bed rot and seek cheap dopamine. I still bed rot, but I've started learning of other dopamine sources, and I'm using this video to be able to know how to get out of bed
The first time I went to a therapist saying "I think I've got ADHD and am burnt-out", she asked why I thought burn-out rather than depression. At the time, I had trouble answering that, and was more focused on the ADHD part.
Now, thought, I know exactly were the difference is for me : I get better when I rest.
You get out of burn-out by resting, you get out of depression by getting back into things. And of course, I often have to force myself to get back into things, because ADHD.
But the one thing that stays true with the years (I'm finishing my degree in a few month, might finally get some rest actual rest) is this : I get better when I rest.
This is SUCH a good comment! Omg I have the same thing, and I keep feeling like everything will be better if I can get one really good night of sleep, because it’s burnout not depression!
The one type of burnout may be called boreout. And I admit I feel like I got both at the same time... I'm trying to be perfect and overachieving in a work that doesn't fulfill me and fells like it has no sense.
Also, after having a major depressive episode after having a full autistic and emotional burnout... Burnout is always connected with depression. Burnout is clinically categorised in the depression category. So after feeling really worn out you most probably find yourself in a depressive episode were you may need help to find optimism and a positive view on yourself again.
Found this right in the withdrawal stage of ADHD burnout and I could cry to be honest. I don't have a formal diagnosis, but more and more I believe to be both inattentive adhd and on the autism spectrum. It's a lot to take in.
same here, currently learning for university exams and the first day of diagnosis only strats a few days after I wrote my last exam for this semester. I am constantly torn between giving up and making myself work more than I can. And i don't even know if I have it yet, so I can't forgive myself for not doing it because it could just be that I need to get my act together. But it could also be that it was never supposed to be easy for me
i just don't wanna work anymore. like i wanna be on my own schedule
YES. A THOUSAND TIMES YES. The only issue is that I have trouble building my own life of autonomy bc I get overwhelmed and over-stimulated very easily.
I've tried pushing myself to do things and it just makes me feel even more miserable.
Love that she says "you can have both" like its a good thing
Like
Hey, buddy heres your burnout yay
The validation can be a good thing for those who need it lol
Is that what it means when they say women can have it all?! 😂
When I was working as a dishwasher last year, the work was simultaneously very over-and-underwhelming, I think I have been recovering from both overwhelmed and underchallenged burnout caused from that- I had a LOT of menial, but very demanding work to do as I was the only one back there and it was a very popular local spot. I felt so underchallenged and like nothing I was doing mattered to me (literally just cleaning dishes 40 hours a week), but I was also so wrung out and exhausted from having just so much BUSYWORK. I’m still recovering from this work-related burnout since I quit back in October, and realizing the ways adhd can totally affect that has opened my eyes a little. I’ve been recovering as well from a very emotionally intense and laborious situation I’ve been in since mid-December. I’m praying I can find some tips and resources that will help me, I’m so tired of life being so difficult.
Anyways, all that to say that ur videos are really really helping a lot of us who are struggling. Thank you for helping me fully process that there IS a way to make life easier for me, now I just need to work on internalizing the idea that I deserve to live life easier haha.
Oh snap this couldn’t have come at a better time! I’m experiencing all of those symptoms you mentioned at the start. Super helpful, thank you so much!
The equal amount of dread and elation I felt at that adhd burnout graphic. Finally a word for it! It just cost me my job and I feel awful, useless, like I'm losing my mind. Just to see written down what I am experiencing gives me hope I can solve this, that it's NOT just me being lazy
I've had inattentive ADHD all my life
It ruined school for me, I did very poorly. I never knew I had it until last year because all my symptoms were internal. Nobody noticed. I always just thought I wasn't good at anything.
Or: dealing with your A(U)DHD, feeling constantly not good enough and beeing told you are lazy lunatic shit CAUSES burnout/depression...
I don't know how you do it. You always put out content on topics that I need... Right when I need them the most! Not only has this video helped me realize that currently I'm struggling with my adhd and not burnout, but also has helped me identify points in my life when I was burnt out in different ways, and even helped me realize past patterns of adhd burnout.
Thank you so much for your videos. I was just diognosed with innatentive ADHD this week at 51. It makes so much much sense in my life but now im so sad that it took so long to diagnose me and so much of my life has gone by without treating it.
You're not alone there! I found Moira's "adhd friendly lifestyle' podcast very helpful when i was going through my late diagnosis, and i've seen a lot of familiar comments around the interwebs from other late in life diagnosis. Luckily that part is just a phase. Anyway, best wishes on your journey forward!
The question that's haunted me for five years now lol
Definitely can't wait for this one
YAY! I’m hopeful this video helps!! 💛
Wait no not yay that this has haunted you 😂 yay that you can’t wait for the video, I hope it’s what you need haha
OMG I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder years ago, and now I suddenly realize it's just that I have combined type ADHD! Going from jubilant energy to burnout type depression/avoidance has mimicked bipolar disorder for more than 20 years for me! My BPD diagnosis never seemed to exactly fit, but no doctors have ever understood inattentive/combined ADHD enough to put it together that this could be the answer. I'm going to bring this up with my doctor ASAP!
GOOD LUCK !
Good luck and I hope it goes well with your doctor!! Dealing with BPD, BPAD and ADHD has to be a lot, so many well wishes!!!
Just be careful as adhd medicine can induce manic episodes with people who are actually bi-polar. That is what makes diagnosis so hard with both of these conditions, because they can mimic each other.
I've never heard that you can have both inattentive and hyperactive ADHD before and that explains SO much for me! I've always felt like my bipolar diagnosis was wrong but I just recently got diagnosed with hyperactive ADHD and now I think I'm gonna talk to my doctor about if I could have both instead of bipolar. Hoping they listen to me this time. Thank you, Hayley!
It’s suuuuuuper common for women in particular to be misdiagnosed as bipolar when they have ADHD.
Okay so.. I needed this one. Not that I haven't needed the other videos too. Your channel helps me so much. BUT this explains so much of what has been happening to me throughout all of my years in school. A younger me and current me really needed to know this. Thank you, Hayley 💞🥺
Usually become inattentive from overwhelm/burnout. Today am feeling the under challenged burnout.
OMG
Thank you thank you thank you
Took a screenshot of the ADHD burnout cycle as that’s me so much and has been most of my life when it comes to personal /household stuff
trying to focus on what's being said but that shimmering light on the wall is absolutely mesmerising
Not me sobbing into my pillow because this video has taught me so much and resonated with me so much. Thank you.
Holy cow... This has put into words how I've been feeling for quite some time now and it's so nice to be able to put a name to it. ADHD Burnout.. That cycle is literally me. 😮
5:23 ugh same, combined type and my hyperactivity is almost a blessing sometimes cuz I feel more productive!
I was in a state of underchallenged burnout, but it was made all the worse because the challenges I did have were due to stupidity. Let me explain. I am an expert in a certain field in my career. I was made to work a certain job in a certain way. It made no sense and I used my expertise to explain as much. They dug their heels in. So I was being underworked, undervalued, my expertise was not being respected, I had to do something in a stupid way that I knew was stupid but also no one expected much, and I was also being underpaid relative to the expected pay in that field. You can't bring on an expert, tell them to do something a certain way which makes no logical sense and does not have any basis in research / reality, underpay and undervalue them and have then difficulties arise from someone defending their stupidity, and expect them to stick around.
My ADHD (undiagnosed) has been so much worse lately, feeling extra listless and depressed, and I'm now realising it's Neglect Burnout / ADHD Burnout. It's nothing to do with my job either. It's medical. I'm tired of trying to get help for my myriad problems, being told I don't fit certain criteria for the help I need or want for fertility issues and also struggling to get a formal ADHD diagnosis as an adult. Even though my GP says I have it (they can't formally diagnose), getting referrals to go through for adults on the NHS is so hard it gets bounced back several times. My problem is I fight for a while then get burned out and stop, then pretend the problem doesn't exist. I fought for a while and then just resigned myself to feeling helpless. Problem is I don't know how to fix it when the medical establishment isn't helping me with... anything. So it's probably ADHD burnout as well.
Reeeaally needed this rn, thank you!!!!
This could not have been a more perfect time to see this video. Thank you!
i'd love to see more videos in the future about autism, especially living with autism and ADHD. i found your videos after i was diagnosed with ADHD as an adult, and they are super helpful and make me feel less alone, so thanks for that
Ohhhhhh I made it to the underchallenged burnout part and something made click! I was working as a graphic designer, a position I had been working towards since I started at that company, and every time I asked if I could do some extra stuff that wasn't strictly part of my duties, I got told no 🤪 after 9 months there I had realised that it wasn't the right place for me, but by then I had lost the steam to try and find another role, so one!!! Year later I quit. Just left. And hoped to find another job. Still healing, 1 1/2 years later, and only ready to accept a job that has purpose for me.
Fairly certain this is going from the flight response end of the spectrum to the freeze response end and a person who leans more on flight and freeze as their trauma responses. I recommend the book CPTSD From surviving to thriving
Thankyou so much for this enlightening video! ADHD burnout described exactly what I went through last year. Only recently discovered I'm Inattentive ADHD. I didn't manage what I didn't understand I had before. Hope that makes sense! This video confirmed and clarified so much. Thanks, Hayley!!!
Underchallenged burnout... It comes with a lot of shame because overload burnout sounds worse? Also in a corporate job that gives me no purpose. I decided I'm not going to look for a better job but work on my passion in the evenings which is painting.
What about when I have so much to do that I can't choose and I get extremely overwhelmed and don't do anything? Also I have a very hard time doing anything unless I'm given direction, but I also hate when people tell me what to do.
Look up adhd paralysis
I hope you know how impactful your content is. As an undiagnosed adult, who started suspecting I have ADHD like 2 years ago, and gets so much doubt about how I "self-diagnosed" for now because getting a test is so hard! (long wait times!) Your videos have helped me understand how to live, and to be less ashamed of my disorganized mind. Your video on rest was one of the most insightful things I have heard from the "self help" sort of content ever, and you are sort of inspiring too.
Short version: Thanks Hayley. You help me to function better 🤗
You are so lovely! Proud of you 🥰 thanks for spending the time to share some love!
Yeah I'm the undercooked one - lack of challenge has dulled me. Ooooo Under buuuurn!
I’m really starting to dive into your videos and am loving them so far. On ADHD burnout, I struggled with depression and anxiety for 4 years through college, then finally my PCP did an ADHD screening. And boy oh boy did I light that bitch up😂 But she explained it very similarly. In late diagnosed women, especially those who are smart, it’s easy to miss in school because A our symptoms can be different, and B our grades are good so clearly not a problem, right? But then, when I went to college, and suddenly couldn’t make easy As without my symptoms getting in the way, my grades were crashing, and I was getting burnt out. It made so much sense and shifted a lot of what I thought about myself and my negative self thoughts. Since then, I’ve been able to focus more on tips and tricks and information like Haley gives, and give myself a lot of hindsight grace.
Thank you for this. I'm currently trying to figure out what is going on with my life right now. Also I would like to say as an ADHD person your son's are very helpful our brains need those extra "oh hey what's that? Oh it's a doggie and a kitty too!!" Moments. And they are adorable.❤
I thought this was an old video and see that it’s new and actually perfect timing! I’ve been in a funk and couldn’t understand whyyyy. Tysm
The cool-toned lights clash with the warm-toned decorations. It's freaking me out. :) Cute pets!
I was thinking about the lights a lot in this bit I thought it was fun and cool and on brand for her colors etc. Very ADHD energy. Idk. You may be right though.
Awww, hi, baby kitty. I love the name you gave him. ❤
I've got combined too and I adore my hyperactivity phases. I feel so energised and can get so much done. Ok I might be chaotic and hyoer but I feel so much better. Inattentiveness just feels empty to me and its frustrating to be losing things and forgetting things etc.
However I have been in burnout for 6 years now and it has been hell. I had been so stressed and exhausted for so long that I eventually just collapsed mentally and physically. Oooh I hadnt heard of underchallenged burnout...maybe thats where I am now after years of doing nothing. Thats really interesting. What I really want to do is go back and do my masters but Im so scared that I will not be able to manage it. Maybe I jusst need to go for it
To be honest... i was distracted by your lamps. For the whole video. Where did you get the color changing one?
Now I can finally watch it a second time and listen to what you have to say :D
from this video i think i have a combination of unchallenged and neglect burnout and adhd? i dont know but i have a very important exam in 2 days and me being here explains a lot. motivational videos work for hardly hours? i dunno. i'd really appreciate if anyone of yall share ur experiences on this
You and your sons are cracking me up 😂🫶🏽
I am convinced that when I have burnout, it’s all types of
Shit…. Just had a breakdown this morning and this describes exactly what I’ve been going through for YEARS as someone who got a late diagnosis right as I moved out of my parents..
this is how i figured out ive been in adhd burnout for the last 2 weeks
11:36 I’m in this picture and I don’t like it lol. In all seriousness thank you for this video, I’m not diagnosed because guess what? It requires me and my mum (likely undiagnosed ADHD too) to fill up a form to bring back to my GP which we keep forgetting to do. I’m pretty sure i have the inattentive type of ADHD and I struggle to do the easiest task until the last minute but i do alright at school so i must be fine 🤷♀️. This has helped me and I’m going to try to set up an accountability system. Thank you again!
I was sooo burnt out and sad about it.. thank you for this video a lot 🥲🥲 Could you also make a video about Autistic Burnout please?? That will be super duper helpful 🥺🙏
Can you do a video on what masking is & steps to improve?
i feel like i constantly fall into adhd burnout, with just the smallest things.. some days are great and i can manage almost everything easily, but then soon the crash comes and i am overwhelmed by the smallest tasks with extreme emotions and feel so exhausted, as if i had just done the most challenging thing in the world…just that i didnt. it‘s really hard to manage every day life and keep up a healthy work/life balance like this :-/
I spend a lot of time trying to figure out the root cause of my problems, i have the combination of neurodiversity and chronic physical illness so it's a mess lol. Thank you for this- it's nice to know I'm not crazy haha
Same. Spoonie club sucks, but we have cozy blankies.
The little gnome in the background is unhinged and I love it
Thank you for this content❤.
Hi I’m all but especially underchallenged burnout 😂
Okay. I love this video. But - where did you get that light at the head of your bed? I want it! Sksksksks. I'm self-diagnosed ADHD but I'm still trying for an official diagnosis. Thank you for all you do!
You are valid. I also got distracted by the awesome light, and I’ve been diagnosed since the 80s when girls were never diagnosed, so there’s your proof 🤣🤣
Interesting! Can't wait!
Which course would you recommend first, Back to Basics or Burnout?
I am overwhelmed and burnt out with life. But I also have zero routines in my life and I barely take care of my needs such eating healthy, drinking water, and exercising.
I feel like I am underchallenged for work but the other with school 😂
I rewound (is that a word?) back through the mindmap actually 10 times because I kept missing it again, and then I just took a half an hour long break from the video to do something on my laptop, then went “oh shit” and came back to this 🙃 I think we found the ADHD! (And the burnout)
So funny at the end 😂😂
I might have missed the joke at 2:00 but the double L in cuillère is pronounced with a Y sound, so it's closer to "Kwi-yeah"
I need that lamp in the background! I... can't... stop... watching... 👀
Anyone know what product this is?
I've been playing "pregnancy, chronic pain, ADHD, or burnout" game 😂😢
AuDHD be like all 4 types taking place at the same time.
The truest truth. Lmao😊
please i NEED to know where you buy your patterned pants 🤩 i love them so much
Is it really split like this? I've been looking into ADHD a lot recently and I thought that everyone is essentially combined, it's just that some people (mostly girls/women) have really internalized the energy. Like a lot of ADHD women get diagnosed with anxiety first because they had to internalize all of the energy. Do they still have split diagnoses?
They do diagnose types, but I think it’s mostly so people understand they can still have ADHD without hyperactivity, or that traits that don’t appear hyperactive are still part of ADHD. The medical treatments are the same regardless of type.
I want to be her dog, look at that gorg puppy!! also a great video ^^
@hayley.honeyman So I was totally distracted by that awesome shiny light behind you for the whole video. I needs it! 😂 Please tell me where to get it/what's it called. 🤩 Thanks! (Awesome video tho. 😁)
As someone with ADHD Im finding it really hard to stay focused and pay attention to this video, it keeps losing me, Im at the 8 minute mark and I have no idea what going on lol
Is this all just personal testimonial or based on science? Could you cite some sources, please?
Bro, I have adhd and burnout, you think I have money for your course?
On a serious note, I feel like I have different things for different aspects of my life. Like work, art, personal life etc.
Yeahhhh parenting!
so, what if I tell you I have all three of them AND probably ADHD burnout combined? Is this cycle of ADHD burnout really something only ADHD people go through (I am not diagnosed yet)?
Combo for me 😅
I do have to say, you dropping out of school didnt solved your burn out, it was just a coping strategy that worked. But also it left you unable to deal with it or find healthy solutions to actually deal with it properly
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Would be nice if you cited your sources for this information. Is it anecdotal or scientific?
Is there a version of this without that blinding, nauseating light that I can't cover up because sometimes there's text on it taking up half the screen
"And I just did that to a whole audience 🤢 "
That's called masking, babe. 😂
(I hate that word, too)
I know everyone’s discussing really important things here, but does anyone know what that light behind the bed is?? I kind of maybe need it immediately lol
HIm Haykey, I am adhder and autistic, I am feeling lost and depressed with the symptoms, feeling like why do even have to live? kind of midlife existential crisis. I want to get out of this but I have no finance, Could you please help me that How you research about everything and figure out solution?
Because I love you.... AND money :'DDDDD
Wow I just realized I have inattentive, for the first time! 😮
French class? Are you a fellow Canadian?!
Ok so if you guys have any suggestions I will gladly take them.
So I have asked for help but when my teacher gives me something to read at home and ancer questions on I feel like I can do them at school and then I get home and start to do them and don't have the mentle energy to do them and it is like I have a huge burnout.
But I can do my math homework with ease and I have always had issues with reading and rembering what I am reading.
Please help
Agen I have asked for help from my teacher's and nothing has changed
It could be that you have some form a language processing disorder, or simply are challenged by the act of reading and don’t have enough brainpower for comprehension. Perhaps there’s a way for the information to be read aloud to you.
same situation here omg. i've slowly come to realise its because being with people gives me the much required energy so im hyper focused in class but at home i have 0 motivation. and yeah i love math too. i feel like getting the answer to something is satisfying! i'd suggest u to use websites like study together or something. it gives me that dopamine boost. and regularly try to challenge ur friends into studying something. (ps can we be friends lol)
Me to
Thank you I am going to try that and yes we can be friends ❤️😋😄
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I’m pretty sure I have ADHD burnout😅
Haley do you take any medication
Aang definitely had ADHD burnout 😂
Gee, I feel like I hit most of these
Can you be burnt out and have adhd burnout at the same time
Do you speak French.... Sí🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank you 🫶🏻 ive been slowly learning this for myself
Yesterday I watched your livestream and 2 more recorded afterwards, all after my first 2 classes of the day.. essentially i spent 11 hours at school yesterday and got a TONE done. Happily taking a burnout day today ✌🏻 its so much better than neglect burnout, thats what i was dealing with for way too long
You've helped me in so so many ways, thank you for doing what you do 🫶🏻
Jeez.. I also just realized adhd burnout is the reason I almost didnt graduate high school.. I missed so many days my senior year
I’m so excited
I am 4 months away from graduating with my masters and I ~really~ resonated with overload and neglect burnout. And then ADHD burnout felt soooo targeted😂. I REALLY needed this, thank you so much Haley 🩵🫶🏼