I just replaced the filters in my 2016 F20, but the pump had a hard time priming after the new filter was installed. After that it started whining and about 100 miles later, it stranded me in the middle of nowhere East of Roswell New Mexico. I pulled over and called USAA who sent an alien craft with three occupants who towed me to Roswell with their tractor beam. I got a hotel room and started researching the problem which brought me to your video. After watching your video, I went down to my truck in the hotel parking lot and turned on the key. I crawled under the truck and sure enough, the whine was coming from the rail-mounted fuel pump. The next morning I went down to O'Reilly and bought a new pump, then I went to Harbor Freight and bought a cheap socket set, a drain pan and a roll of blue mechanics paper towels. My wife assisted me, and we got the pump changed in about thirty minutes thanks to your video. The hardest part was the trick for getting the fuel lines disconnected. Once I figured out - like you said but I guess I missed it - that you need to PUSH the lines toward the connector until they click before they'll slip off, the rest was cake.
Thanks to this video, I got the pump changed, in nearly the time it took me to watch this. Well, not quite, but surely less than 1/2 hour. In my book, that's pretty good! This is seriously helpful stuff. Thanks!!
If you get those coming in a with P0087, see if the customer is using the PM-22 and PM-23 additives. The reason I ask is because the cardboard disk from those bottle caps dislodge very easily, and can make its way into the fuel tank and block off fuel flow to the pickup inside the tank. I did this myself ONCE on my own truck! Since then, every time I purchase those additives, I pour them into five appropriately sized small jars to add to my fuel.
What else would set that code I've changed the pressure sensor on rail and the pressure regulator as well and still no luck getting rid of that code any idea greatly appreciated
Thanks for the great video. Unfortunately, Nothing seems to be as easy for me. This truck I purchased has an aftermarket 50 gal fuel tank. The end of it is partially wrapped around the pump and makes access to the back to fuel lines hell to get to. Managed to get it done, just not near as quickly!
A-Rod, I have a 2014 F-350 single axle. I went to ford to get a simple oil, filter, & fuel filter change. Pretty simple! After completion, I went to my truck, started it, & it BARELY started. I immediately knew something was wrong because that never happened before ( 148k miles ). I also noticed a HUMMING noise coming from under the hood. Mechanic came out & said it had air in it & it would go away. YEAH!! I FELL FOR IT! Well, a week later, noise was just getting worse & worse, louder & louder. I finally took it to another dealership & they said it was my Low Pressure Fuel Pump. I had them replace it. $1400 & 2 days later, I’m here now asking WTH is wrong with my truck? My truck is starting the humming noise under the hood again. It’s coming from a violent vibration from the secondary fuel filter. Why will this noise not go away now? No one at Ford seems to know wth they doing! Please, I need your help 🙏
Awesome. Didnt know it was covered! I was looking to get details on replacing it because I was going to order one. I have a '16 w/ 51k. You just saved me a boatload. Disappointed though this js failing already.
The 2016 has a slightly longer (1 inch) so different part number; PFB 114. I pre-bought the module for a Saturday fix, only to discover the difference. Oh well, back to the Ford parts counter.
Thank you for the video! I think I need to replace mine. It makes a weird noise and I'm getting low fuel pressure and reduced power messages with a check engine light.
im replacing mine because I went to change the filter and found that the plastic tabs on the back the housing were all broke off and the whole assembly was just hanging from the fuel lines. it was also starting to whine so I dont feel that bad about changing it.
Hey bud I'm having a little issue that is driving me crazy. I have a 2015 f250 6.7 200,000 miles and There is a whining noise when idling coming from the top engine compartment around the top fuel filter . I'll tap on the gas pedal and it'll go away but will come back after a drive and idle again.. I'll trun off the truck and I'll put the ignition switch forward without starting and the top filter is whining loud. I have changed both filters motorcraft and orings with new drain plug and rings. Everything is tight as sound be and still making that annoying noise. Any advice or tips for a fix ? Thanks
Mine is doing the exact same thing after reaching normal temp. Guess it’s time for same fuel pump replacement AROD, will a FASS Fuel pump kit work too? Great videos by the way.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I have an issue with my 2011 6.7 diesel. I change the fuel filters after I did that now is telling me I have low fuel pressure what can it be wrong?
I changedall my filters bled lines and it takes 2 or3 times to start the pump does make some noise i think this is what mine need but i also otice fuel tank leaks a little from the top this might be the issue as well
Any week links on the 17 super dutys . Saw the recall video and the flatbed busted bell housing, not Ford's falt . And your ausom searis on the frame replacement, again not Ford's falt. I bought a 2017 PSD in April I love it !!😎 Keep the videos coming. It's gotta be hard filming and fixing and being productive. Thanks
+Thomas Burke if im filming, im fixin, if im fixin...im being productive delivering the powerstroke vids for my fans. 17's are bomb, havent had any issues so far
My pump doesn’t squeal, but would a low pressure pump on the verge of going out cause a low fuel pressure message? And power reduction soon after? That’s what happened with my 2015 6.7, changed fuel filters, after purging takes awhile to start, get the low fuel pressure then power reduction, pulled the volume regulator on the cp4, no metal particulates
PowerStroke Tech Talk w/ARod been chasing this issue for a few days and literally just got done replacing the low pressure pump and it fixed the truck! Truck runs a lot better and the new pump sounds smoother than the old, so it must’ve been going out and I never noticed it, thank you for the reply!
You didn’t have the camera on the piece that you “popped out” in order to remove the pump from the bracket! So how do you remove the pump from the bracket???
Last fuel pump I saw like that on 13 that was whining was because it was sucking air, the guy had changed the fuel filter but cracked the damn thing so hard it cracked the case ( I know ..say what )and didnt noticed it because it "looked fine" So it was having an issue starting and was whining away, asked him if he did any recent work... just changed oil and fuel filtershe says..tell him did you check the fuel filter and the housing, no I just eyeballed it looks fine, told him take it off and have a look at it..nope.... go the next day to look at it, sure enough take it down housing cracked, take off the old one put on the new one work on getting air out of the fuel system he introduced, next thing you know...vrooom...lol
I changed my filters and didn’t get it tightened enough. Had whirling sound and drove it a few days . Hauling my trailer under heavy load I got the reduced power and low fuel pressure alarm. I was like WTH ...I then tightened again and the noise was gone until I was hauling my trailer with heavy load then I could hear it again but no alarms or reduced power. Was not very noisy but I could still hear it. Does this mean my pump is going out?
guys I have a 2013 f20. i changed both filters and after i got them primed i heard the "squeal " or "wined noise" . after looking at these comments and videos i discovered i did not tighten the housing on the bottom filter and was actually sucking up a little bit of air!!!!! thank god i didn't buy a pump.. went down to auto zone and got the 32mm socket and gave it the last spin.. #problemsolved.. thanks for your help everyone
I have a 13’. And I’m getting a loud buzzing noise coming from the filter up on the engine if I grab the fuel line coming out to the hard line with the sensors I can feel vibration
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod ok kinda what I was thinking, just started out of the blue, I use oe filters, it’s been about 1k miles since I changed them so I’ll try to pin point source
What If it quits screaming ??? Is it bad mine quit and now it won’t start it’s been having issues for a year sometimes it wired and sometimes it didn’t like it had a loose connection now it just quit and won’t start
Thanks for the Video it's super helpful. How do you disconnect that wiring harness at the top. I've been trying to reach up and feel for clips to push but for the life of me I can't find them. I don't want to break it pulling it off there. Thanks!
ARod - I found the push-tab on the top of the wiring harness......it was just tough to see / press when everything was still mounted. Thanks again for the video it was very helpful
Have you ever had a fuel pump break by over tightening the filter housing? Like is that even possible? Because my filter is on tight but it seems like it's not getting primed like it's sucking air, but I'm hoping it's not a crack in the plastic pump
Dumb question. I installed the new fuel pump. I guess I assumed it comes with a fuel filter inside?? I didn’t take it apart and look…..guess I might unscrew and look to make certain
I've heard all kinds of horror stories about high pressure fuel pumps sending bits of metal into the injectors and having to replace the whole fuel system. Is this a secondary fuel pump in your video ? I have a 2017 Ford with a 6.7 liter diesel . I was considering putting in a disaster prevention kit sold aftermarket. What do you think about these kits. The brand I was looking at was called SPE performance parts.
Hey there! SPE is garbage. If your new to the channel you need to see the kit we put on called S&S diesel, A WAY better kit. No thats the lift pump, yours is in the tank.
How do you remove the lines off of a 6.4? It has a different style clip on all four lines. I don’t want to break them. There is a blue clip in the middle. I didn’t want to pry on them too hard. I can’t get my fingers on each side of the clip like the 6.7.
I have a 2014 6.7 F350. I have 350,000 miles. I have replaced the frame lift pump 4 times for the same problem. Low fuel pressure on the dash and loss of power. Multiple fuel filters also. Changed every 10,000 miles. Ford has warranted the pump each time but now say it is something else. I buy from Shell which turns the diesel regularly in their tanks. This last time I just change the filters @ Ford dealer after a breakdown. I tow travel trailers. They tore apart the pleated filter and did not see anything out of the ordinary after only 9,000 miles . Makes me not comfortable leaving the house at 2am. Any suggestions? Fast filter system? The truck is stock other then deleted and has an after market Titan 65 gallon fuel tank that has been installed a hundred thousand miles ago.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod it doesn't have hair around it 😂and I don't have a mirror but I did get it finally it's got one that pulls back and then you got to pull in the connection at the same time
Once u have the pump bolts loose, tap the nose of the oump once the nuts removed and the taper fit will pop letting the pump slide back and the gear to come off.......make sure u......time it right.....
@@jackeasley2809I did. Ended up being the injection pump. It shelled out internally. Had to replace and flush the entire fuel system. Ran us $10K for everything.. good luck, hopefully your issue isn’t as bad
Great information just bought a new pump for my 2012 F350 6.7 with 81,000 miles.My question is there already a filter in the housing or do I need to install one.
I have a big question On a 2017 ford f250 6.7 diesel. I have 3/4 of the tank full of diesel and then i put 2 gall of def fluid in the fuel tank with the truck running after 4 min shut off and wont start i gain then i remember what i did i got it towed to the house. And dont know what will need to do. First. Thank you
NOT GOOD. Hope you have $11,000 bucks. Your whole entire high pressure fuel system needs to be replaced, I mean everything! The low pressure will need to be removed and flushed out. Drop tank, dispose of contaminated fuel...replaced pump inside of tank. I MEAN THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY NO SHORT CUTS FOR WHAT JUST HAPPENED. NOT WARRANTY!
colas solorzano the pump is on the rail, when you get DEF in the fuel system it trashes the cp4 pump sending metal particles and pieces all throughout your fuel system, so everything needs to get replaced, look up ford 6.7 fuel contamination kit, Pensacola diesel gives you all OEM parts you need with the exception of the low pressure fuel pump, for like $3500 with a $1000 core charge, labor will run you around $3500-$4500 if you take it to a diesel shop and not the dealer, very costly mistake, next time add the disaster prevention kit on your truck
I have a 2011 that I bought new. I've always taking care of it by the book. My filter isn't due to be changed just yet. I retired my truck back in March of this year and it had a quarter of a tank in it. Every now and then I would crack it up in the drive way and let it run for a half hour or so. Anyway now I'm getting a wining noise from from the same part that you're changing. It never did this until recently and when I first retired it, it wasn't doing it. Do you think that the filter inside might have growth in it or could it be that pump going bad? I ordered a filter for it so I'm gonna try changing the filter first. What should I do about storing my truck, should I fill up the fuel tank or leave it almost empty and what additive should I use if any is recommended. Sorry for my comment being so long. Thank you for your video, It was very informative. Take care friend. Thumbs up on this video. 👍
Thanks so much brother! Yes it is time for a fuel pump. I wld fill it up and dump some motorcraft centane boost in it & you should be gooood to go. Have done multiple pump!
Is there a reason why every time I remove the fuel tank cap there is some air sucking? I am not sure if that pump on my 12' is working harder I notice once in a while lack of power, kinda like it has not enough fuel
+Dan Smith 7.3, keep......6.7 bad ass BUT & I say BUT.....if stuff breaks on that & u have to pay for it, its gon make you wish u were fixin your 7.3. 6.7 is the best, its just the aftertreatment and electronics are so expensive to replace. Get it, id recommend getting Ford's premium care as an extended service plan. Best bang for your buck. From factory you will get 3yrs or 36k miles-whole truck.....5 yr 100 miles on just engine. Then P-CARE will take u 100k miles bumper to bumer or 125k miles...and/or u can get the extended diesel engine care plus which takes ur engine to 200k, or 8 yrs from warranty start date. Hope this helps with your financial decision. Truck is awesome, ive built a 2017 entire truck from the ground up.... I KNOW!!
PowerStroke Tech Talk w/ARod right on, Ive always been a ford guy but what’s your unbiased opinion on the other brands. As a technician, would you put the powerstroke over the Cummins and duramax?
+Dan Smith i have never done anything else but maintenance on the other two....however, being smothered in Ford inside & out IT IS ALL I would recommend....PoWeRsTrOkE's ALL the way. Dont get me wrong there are techs who work on those other two for a living as well, they all have issues.....built by man. But for overall intricacies of our favorite brand & to diagnose, scan tools, latest up to date information, special tools & pretty much having them in my backyard...its hard to be unbiased....lol In my tier......#1 FORD!!!!!!!! #2 GM(cuz i really want a Vette) and in way way WAAAAAY distant 3rd...im not gonna even put a number sign in front of 3 cuz I despise it that much....................................dodge/chrysler/fiat/ram....all of it. I mean if ur GIVING me a Viper, ill gladly take and look the other way...lol Just my two cents mister.
I have a 2011 Ford F-250 and it makes a really loud noise from that pump and it won’t crank, before it shut off on me it said reduced engine power and a low fuel pressure code but now it won’t start at all, any tips or ideas on what it could be ? Maybe changing the pump will fix it ? Thank youu in advance
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Do u think you can help me out? Throwing code po192 Low Rail fuel pressure code...replaced both filters...truck can do fine for a week or 2 and then it will get to where it will crank and not start...wait a minute and try and fires right up...has stalled several times driving down the interstate...Took to ford dealer and they couldn't find anything
I need the yellow fitting line going from this pump to the fuel tank on a 172” wheel base. Cannot find it online anywhere at all. Can you provide apart number for this line, please???
PowerStroke Tech Talk w/ARod... 1FT8W3BT4BEA55681. I’m putting a 65 gallon Titan in mine today and the yellow quick disconnect on the old tank was seized. Ended up breaking it trying to get it off.
Dude I just had our 14 F550 in the shop for low fuel pressure, the pump was screaming. I took the FF off and checked to see if it was blocked it was ok. Put a new filter in and made sure it was tight and against the stop, still screamed. So I went and replaced the secondary and all is good. I think it was sucking air at the second filter!
ARod perfect timing seeing this video might have the same problem my 2015 F350 flashed a code of P0087, 28670 miles, changed the fuel filters, check engine light still on, can I get it cleared or bigger problem.
My pump isn’t making noise but it is leaking from somewhere and I can’t find the leak. I have replaced the O ring and the bottom housing 4-5 times and it’s still leaking so I guess I’m replacing the whole damn thing next!
I just bought this pump and I am getting ready to put it on tomorrow. I've been hearing a little bit of a wine but I figured with a hundred and forty thousand miles on the clock it wouldn't be a bad idea to proactively change it. Do you have any idea of the average lifespan these pumps have.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod well I guess that means I'm being a little anal about it. I just figured for 400 bucks it's worth the Peace of Mind. Thanks for all your information I know all of us truly appreciate the help you provide
I’m currently working on swapping my fuel cooler, I have the new cooler in however I am having troubles with fuel not stopping for me to repair the line. I tried unscrewing the filter because I thought that would stop the fuel flow but no help there, can a guy un due those connections, would that eliminate the fuel flow I’m getting at the fuel cooler end?
Question, Is my fuel filter after the fuel pump or before? I have two filters, one under the hood and one under the truck. I am worried about failure of the fuel pump sending small metal pieces into the injectors. Thanks much!
i changed my fuel pump because i was getting a low pressure warning light, after i started it it ran for about one minute and shut off after that it wont start again im confused, is there a chance air in the line may have shut me down? if so how do i bleed the line?
Thank you! It’s still not working so I’m going to change both filters and try again. Originally the warning light low fuel pressure came on and then it went to reduced power mode and now it’s in ‘no go mode’ lol
how loud was the scream ? I after numerous complaints got mine replaced for an obnoxious whine they kept saying it was a bad /clogged filter causing it to draw in air (I agreed it was drawing air but not why)but 3 filters and 3 orings in 10k I whined louder than the pump (cost was redicilous 3 filter with less than 1000 miles each before noise returned )and got it replaced Which eliminated the whine noise both the pumps and mine. Lol
+Bleeding Diesel903 lololol, yea loud enough for you to be like what the hell...is that. Some have set the engine light, or low fuel pressure warning like this 1 did
Just changed the filters and cycled the fuel pump 8 times for 30 seconds. Truck started driving sluggish as hell after a mile then ran fine for a little bit (maybe 15 miles and started the sluggish again). Just drive it to work and it ran fine (4 miles). Is my pump going bad? I can hear it whining when starting it and driving. Doesn’t seem overly loud though. Suggestions please!
If you need the clips they are available in the lines. That's how Ford sells them. If your not wanting to replacing the whole GD lines then you will have to look on line & look for what you need. Did you read the comments yet.....there is info there....
The 103 pump is good for 11-14 the other 114 pump is for the 15-16 years just learned this and thought would share
I just replaced the filters in my 2016 F20, but the pump had a hard time priming after the new filter was installed. After that it started whining and about 100 miles later, it stranded me in the middle of nowhere East of Roswell New Mexico. I pulled over and called USAA who sent an alien craft with three occupants who towed me to Roswell with their tractor beam. I got a hotel room and started researching the problem which brought me to your video. After watching your video, I went down to my truck in the hotel parking lot and turned on the key. I crawled under the truck and sure enough, the whine was coming from the rail-mounted fuel pump.
The next morning I went down to O'Reilly and bought a new pump, then I went to Harbor Freight and bought a cheap socket set, a drain pan and a roll of blue mechanics paper towels. My wife assisted me, and we got the pump changed in about thirty minutes thanks to your video. The hardest part was the trick for getting the fuel lines disconnected. Once I figured out - like you said but I guess I missed it - that you need to PUSH the lines toward the connector until they click before they'll slip off, the rest was cake.
Thanks for the detailed report. 👍
Thanks!! I would have probably broke the fuel line connectors if it wasn't for your detailed video!!
@williamcooper3142 thanks bubby
Thanks to this video, I got the pump changed, in nearly the time it took me to watch this. Well, not quite, but surely less than 1/2 hour. In my book, that's pretty good! This is seriously helpful stuff. Thanks!!
Thanks so much bud
thanks bud, truck broke down 2 hours from town in -40. this helped me get er dun quickly without freezing my thumbs off, appreciate it.
Hells yeah brother!!!
Dealership gave me wrong part so decided to look on TH-cam. This video and part number saved my a*** . . . Thanks a million
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Thank you. That's a relief to see how simple that will be.
If you get those coming in a with P0087, see if the customer is using the PM-22 and PM-23 additives. The reason I ask is because the cardboard disk from those bottle caps dislodge very easily, and can make its way into the fuel tank and block off fuel flow to the pickup inside the tank. I did this myself ONCE on my own truck! Since then, every time I purchase those additives, I pour them into five appropriately sized small jars to add to my fuel.
+Michael Chan thanks for the tip!
What else would set that code I've changed the pressure sensor on rail and the pressure regulator as well and still no luck getting rid of that code any idea greatly appreciated
Thanks for the great video. Unfortunately, Nothing seems to be as easy for me. This truck I purchased has an aftermarket 50 gal fuel tank. The end of it is partially wrapped around the pump and makes access to the back to fuel lines hell to get to. Managed to get it done, just not near as quickly!
Yeah been tjere done that, i feel ya
Dude, you should have included the screaming noise, you gave great info too. Thank you.
I'm enjoying your videos. Learning a lot about my 2011 F250 6.7 PowerStroke truck. Keep up the great work1
Thanks so much, reach out 2 me if you need anything!!
very good explaination of how to do, and perfect video of it. Thanks
A-Rod, I have a 2014 F-350 single axle. I went to ford to get a simple oil, filter, & fuel filter change. Pretty simple! After completion, I went to my truck, started it, & it BARELY started. I immediately knew something was wrong because that never happened before ( 148k miles ). I also noticed a HUMMING noise coming from under the hood. Mechanic came out & said it had air in it & it would go away. YEAH!! I FELL FOR IT! Well, a week later, noise was just getting worse & worse, louder & louder. I finally took it to another dealership & they said it was my Low Pressure Fuel Pump. I had them replace it. $1400 & 2 days later, I’m here now asking WTH is wrong with my truck? My truck is starting the humming noise under the hood again. It’s coming from a violent vibration from the secondary fuel filter. Why will this noise not go away now? No one at Ford seems to know wth they doing! Please, I need your help 🙏
We can go over this on IG or u can email me. Est....gettin 2 be beddy bye time
I emailed u, please reply whenever u get free time. No rush tonight 👍
I dont think i got an email from ya bud
I just read it can be caused by faulty Chinese filter
Again, great video, great instruction and explanation. I'm new to all this and am learning exponentially from your videos.
Stay locker to dis channel
I wish I had that much room ponder there. But thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the video. I am getting ready change mine on a 2012.
Watch our newer one!!!
Awesome. Didnt know it was covered! I was looking to get details on replacing it because I was going to order one. I have a '16 w/ 51k. You just saved me a boatload. Disappointed though this js failing already.
Glad 2 help
When you say failing what happened the pump went out or needed filter replaced ?
Pump bud...
The 2016 has a slightly longer (1 inch) so different part number; PFB 114. I pre-bought the module for a Saturday fix, only to discover the difference. Oh well, back to the Ford parts counter.
Shhhhit
Nice video, next can we hear the truck before and after? Hearing it fire up after the repair is the best part.
+Steven Ruble dang, never thought bout that, ill work that in next time 😊
Great video and very helpful in speeding up my replacement, those locks we're my problem try to figure out how to release them, thanks again.
Glad to have helped. Thanks 4 stoppin by!
Awesome job.......just can't beat your vids!!
+bill beckett thanks Bill!!!!!!
What do you think of the aftermarket pumps like air dog
Is it new fuel pump come with a filter please if you can answer it to me thank you
Very helpful , it was right what I needed!
Thank you for the video! I think I need to replace mine. It makes a weird noise and I'm getting low fuel pressure and reduced power messages with a check engine light.
Do you have any ideas of our needs to be replaced?
If youd like my time, youll have to compensate us. We have an email thats associated to this channel
im replacing mine because I went to change the filter and found that the plastic tabs on the back the housing were all broke off and the whole assembly was just hanging from the fuel lines. it was also starting to whine so I dont feel that bad about changing it.
Great help for the future. Great video. Thanx Bro!
+Paul Rodrigues no problem mister P-Rod
Hey bud I'm having a little issue that is driving me crazy. I have a 2015 f250 6.7 200,000 miles and There is a whining noise when idling coming from the top engine compartment around the top fuel filter . I'll tap on the gas pedal and it'll go away but will come back after a drive and idle again.. I'll trun off the truck and I'll put the ignition switch forward without starting and the top filter is whining loud. I have changed both filters motorcraft and orings with new drain plug and rings. Everything is tight as sound be and still making that annoying noise. Any advice or tips for a fix ? Thanks
Time fer a pump
Mine is doing the exact same thing after reaching normal temp. Guess it’s time for same fuel pump replacement AROD, will a FASS Fuel pump kit work too? Great videos by the way.
Id really just get a new oe pump brother
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I have an issue with my 2011 6.7 diesel. I change the fuel filters after I did that now is telling me I have low fuel pressure what can it be wrong?
Did u tighten the cap all of the way
I changedall my filters bled lines and it takes 2 or3 times to start the pump does make some noise i think this is what mine need but i also otice fuel tank leaks a little from the top this might be the issue as well
Besides the screaming nose what other sides should I beware of if any . great video as always thanks
Any week links on the 17 super dutys . Saw the recall video and the flatbed busted bell housing, not Ford's falt . And your ausom searis on the frame replacement, again not Ford's falt. I bought a 2017 PSD in April I love it !!😎 Keep the videos coming. It's gotta be hard filming and fixing and being productive. Thanks
+Thomas Burke if im filming, im fixin, if im fixin...im being productive delivering the powerstroke vids for my fans. 17's are bomb, havent had any issues so far
Cool mechanic hack to make money.
Change the fuel pump when it's only got a vacuum leak on the line.
My pump doesn’t squeal, but would a low pressure pump on the verge of going out cause a low fuel pressure message? And power reduction soon after? That’s what happened with my 2015 6.7, changed fuel filters, after purging takes awhile to start, get the low fuel pressure then power reduction, pulled the volume regulator on the cp4, no metal particulates
If you are sure you tightened the cap all the way, then yes that message would support the replacement of the frame mounted 9G282 pump.
PowerStroke Tech Talk w/ARod been chasing this issue for a few days and literally just got done replacing the low pressure pump and it fixed the truck! Truck runs a lot better and the new pump sounds smoother than the old, so it must’ve been going out and I never noticed it, thank you for the reply!
PowerStroke Tech Talk w/ARod your video made swapping the pump a breeze too!
You didn’t have the camera on the piece that you “popped out” in order to remove the pump from the bracket! So how do you remove the pump from the bracket???
Last fuel pump I saw like that on 13 that was whining was because it was sucking air, the guy had changed the fuel filter but cracked the damn thing so hard it cracked the case ( I know ..say what )and didnt noticed it because it "looked fine" So it was having an issue starting and was whining away, asked him if he did any recent work... just changed oil and fuel filtershe says..tell him did you check the fuel filter and the housing, no I just eyeballed it looks fine, told him take it off and have a look at it..nope.... go the next day to look at it, sure enough take it down housing cracked, take off the old one put on the new one work on getting air out of the fuel system he introduced, next thing you know...vrooom...lol
+Screamin Demon i loved your write up, classic!
I changed my filters and didn’t get it tightened enough. Had whirling sound and drove it a few days . Hauling my trailer under heavy load I got the reduced power and low fuel pressure alarm. I was like WTH ...I then tightened again and the noise was gone until I was hauling my trailer with heavy load then I could hear it again but no alarms or reduced power. Was not very noisy but I could still hear it. Does this mean my pump is going out?
i am having the same issue. after changing the 2 filters change. any up dates
Prolly time 4 a pump like i told the last guy
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thanks. odd part is that it was quite before the filter change
Happens 👍🤷♂️
guys I have a 2013 f20. i changed both filters and after i got them primed i heard the "squeal " or "wined noise" . after looking at these comments and videos i discovered i did not tighten the housing on the bottom filter and was actually sucking up a little bit of air!!!!! thank god i didn't buy a pump.. went down to auto zone and got the 32mm socket and gave it the last spin.. #problemsolved.. thanks for your help everyone
Good!!!!!!!!
Great video! 👍
Very helpful... Thanks for the video
I have a 13’. And I’m getting a loud buzzing noise coming from the filter up on the engine if I grab the fuel line coming out to the hard line with the sensors I can feel vibration
Air
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod ok kinda what I was thinking, just started out of the blue, I use oe filters, it’s been about 1k miles since I changed them so I’ll try to pin point source
Problem #1. Didn't show how to get the fuel pump plug off. I'm also battling hydraulic hoses due to my company using these as haulsters
The connector i gravy. Read the comments brah!
great vid skills and huge help content!
What If it quits screaming ??? Is it bad mine quit and now it won’t start it’s been having issues for a year sometimes it wired and sometimes it didn’t like it had a loose connection now it just quit and won’t start
Thanks for the Video it's super helpful. How do you disconnect that wiring harness at the top. I've been trying to reach up and feel for clips to push but for the life of me I can't find them. I don't want to break it pulling it off there. Thanks!
ARod - I found the push-tab on the top of the wiring harness......it was just tough to see / press when everything was still mounted. Thanks again for the video it was very helpful
Great, glad u found my vids
Have you ever had a fuel pump break by over tightening the filter housing? Like is that even possible? Because my filter is on tight but it seems like it's not getting primed like it's sucking air, but I'm hoping it's not a crack in the plastic pump
Yup I cracked it right where the socket goes
Dumb question. I installed the new fuel pump. I guess I assumed it comes with a fuel filter inside?? I didn’t take it apart and look…..guess I might unscrew and look to make certain
Yes
What if the clips to pull up are broken!?
I have this problem!
Reminds me of the 85-89 low pressure frame mounted pump on the EFI engines...there was a better setup lol
I've heard all kinds of horror stories about high pressure fuel pumps sending bits of metal into the injectors and having to replace the whole fuel system. Is this a secondary fuel pump in your video ? I have a 2017 Ford with a 6.7 liter diesel . I was considering putting in a disaster prevention kit sold aftermarket. What do you think about these kits. The brand I was looking at was called SPE performance parts.
Hey there! SPE is garbage. If your new to the channel you need to see the kit we put on called S&S diesel, A WAY better kit. No thats the lift pump, yours is in the tank.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Do you do a compare video of the two pumps ?
No
I was able to get two lines disconnected from the fuel pump, but broke the clip on the 3rd one. Does anyone know how to get the clip to release now.
Aaron
any DTC's associated with weak LP-Lift Pump? I'm chasing P01C6 on 2015 (she's on a diet)
....P0087
Im having a hard time trying to depress the other lines is there a special tool that we could use?
No there isnt
How do you remove the lines off of a 6.4? It has a different style clip on all four lines. I don’t want to break them. There is a blue clip in the middle. I didn’t want to pry on them too hard. I can’t get my fingers on each side of the clip like the 6.7.
Depress the colored tabs in the middle on both rear lines. The front 2 u need a special tooool
PowerStroke Tech Talk w/ARod Thanks for the quick reply. So I just press on the two on tank side. What’s the special tool for the engine side?
It is a tool to release the quick disconnect part inside the line
Did fuel level in the tank matter in this? Did you have to drain the fuel?
Nope not @ all
Once I change pump on my 2016 F250, is there any bleeding of lines or am I good to go? 🤔
I have a 2014 6.7 F350. I have 350,000 miles. I have replaced the frame lift pump 4 times for the same problem. Low fuel pressure on the dash and loss of power. Multiple fuel filters also. Changed every 10,000 miles. Ford has warranted the pump each time but now say it is something else. I buy from Shell which turns the diesel regularly in their tanks. This last time I just change the filters @ Ford dealer after a breakdown. I tow travel trailers. They tore apart the pleated filter and did not see anything out of the ordinary after only 9,000 miles . Makes me not comfortable leaving the house at 2am. Any suggestions? Fast filter system? The truck is stock other then deleted and has an after market Titan 65 gallon fuel tank that has been installed a hundred thousand miles ago.
How often are you goin thru pumps??🤔
Arod- I think you need one if those cave exploration helmets with a go pro mounted to that
Lolololol
How does that top electrical connection unhook ? .. not all of us have a lift ..we have to do it on the ground 🤦♂️
U dont need a lift to disconnect it or see it. If u have a mirror u can see the button to depress. Feel it with ya fingaz!!
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod it doesn't have hair around it 😂and I don't have a mirror but I did get it finally it's got one that pulls back and then you got to pull in the connection at the same time
I didnt wanna say it but ya beat me to it 😉 knowings half the battle. Dont ferget to bleed it when ur thruuuuu
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod ya bleed it thru he bott , right ?
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod or fo i leave a line off ...? Blue or yellow
ARod im working on a 2015 f550 and im trying to remove the high pressure pump and the gear doesnt have threads to put a puller on it thanks
Once u have the pump bolts loose, tap the nose of the oump once the nuts removed and the taper fit will pop letting the pump slide back and the gear to come off.......make sure u......time it right.....
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARodThank you sir leave the back nuts loose and hit it on the front of the shaft
I got a 2012 F-350 and it’s throwing a P2291. All it will do it crank but never start.. could it be this pump?
Probably not
Did you ever figure this out? I have the same issue now
@@jackeasley2809I did. Ended up being the injection pump. It shelled out internally. Had to replace and flush the entire fuel system. Ran us $10K for everything.. good luck, hopefully your issue isn’t as bad
Does the PFB -103 come
With a filter already installed?
Great information just bought a new pump for my 2012 F350 6.7 with 81,000 miles.My question is there already a filter in the housing or do I need to install one.
Goooood to go bro!
Ok thanks
Which one to get? ☺ 2012 F550
I already had a blue tap break on me trying to figure out how take it out 🤦🤔
The little tab pulls up then you push down on the blue triangle piece of plastic
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod my little blue tab broke. Now what do I depress?
Better get you a pick....
I have a big question
On a 2017 ford f250 6.7 diesel.
I have 3/4 of the tank full of diesel and then i put 2 gall of def fluid in the fuel tank with the truck running after 4 min shut off and wont start i gain then i remember what i did i got it towed to the house. And dont know what will need to do. First. Thank you
NOT GOOD. Hope you have $11,000 bucks. Your whole entire high pressure fuel system needs to be replaced, I mean everything! The low pressure will need to be removed and flushed out. Drop tank, dispose of contaminated fuel...replaced pump inside of tank. I MEAN THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY NO SHORT CUTS FOR WHAT JUST HAPPENED. NOT WARRANTY!
PowerStroke Tech Talk w/ARod thanks for respond.
But there is no pump in the tank Only the send unid to show how much fuel i got in the tank
How much will cost to drop the tank and change filter and flush the system?
colas solorzano the pump is on the rail, when you get DEF in the fuel system it trashes the cp4 pump sending metal particles and pieces all throughout your fuel system, so everything needs to get replaced, look up ford 6.7 fuel contamination kit, Pensacola diesel gives you all OEM parts you need with the exception of the low pressure fuel pump, for like $3500 with a $1000 core charge, labor will run you around $3500-$4500 if you take it to a diesel shop and not the dealer, very costly mistake, next time add the disaster prevention kit on your truck
I have a 2011 that I bought new. I've always taking care of it by the book. My filter isn't due to be changed just yet. I retired my truck back in March of this year and it had a quarter of a tank in it. Every now and then I would crack it up in the drive way and let it run for a half hour or so. Anyway now I'm getting a wining noise from from the same part that you're changing. It never did this until recently and when I first retired it, it wasn't doing it. Do you think that the filter inside might have growth in it or could it be that pump going bad? I ordered a filter for it so I'm gonna try changing the filter first. What should I do about storing my truck, should I fill up the fuel tank or leave it almost empty and what additive should I use if any is recommended. Sorry for my comment being so long. Thank you for your video, It was very informative. Take care friend. Thumbs up on this video. 👍
Thanks so much brother! Yes it is time for a fuel pump. I wld fill it up and dump some motorcraft centane boost in it & you should be gooood to go. Have done multiple pump!
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Thanks for the fast reply,I appreciate it.
How do you get the truck started after
Is there a reason why every time I remove the fuel tank cap there is some air sucking?
I am not sure if that pump on my 12' is working harder I notice once in a while lack of power, kinda like it has not enough fuel
Ive had to replace the tanks for that
What this pump does to the truck
thanks sir
Have you seen the housing come completely apart from just below the top vs just the cap(bottom) of the housing during a filter change?
Yes
Can I place a fass lift pump instead of the stock? Just asking
Last guy broke all the tabs. Good luck if yall have to deal with that...
Would you recommend a new 6.7 powerstroke? I have a 7.3 that has treated me well. Worried these newer diesels will cause me problems.
+Dan Smith 7.3, keep......6.7 bad ass BUT & I say BUT.....if stuff breaks on that & u have to pay for it, its gon make you wish u were fixin your 7.3. 6.7 is the best, its just the aftertreatment and electronics are so expensive to replace. Get it, id recommend getting Ford's premium care as an extended service plan. Best bang for your buck. From factory you will get 3yrs or 36k miles-whole truck.....5 yr 100 miles on just engine. Then P-CARE will take u 100k miles bumper to bumer or 125k miles...and/or u can get the extended diesel engine care plus which takes ur engine to 200k, or 8 yrs from warranty start date. Hope this helps with your financial decision. Truck is awesome, ive built a 2017 entire truck from the ground up.... I KNOW!!
PowerStroke Tech Talk w/ARod right on, Ive always been a ford guy but what’s your unbiased opinion on the other brands. As a technician, would you put the powerstroke over the Cummins and duramax?
+Dan Smith i have never done anything else but maintenance on the other two....however, being smothered in Ford inside & out IT IS ALL I would recommend....PoWeRsTrOkE's ALL the way.
Dont get me wrong there are techs who work on those other two for a living as well, they all have issues.....built by man. But for overall intricacies of our favorite brand & to diagnose, scan tools, latest up to date information, special tools & pretty much having them in my backyard...its hard to be unbiased....lol In my tier......#1 FORD!!!!!!!! #2 GM(cuz i really want a Vette) and in way way WAAAAAY distant 3rd...im not gonna even put a number sign in front of 3 cuz I despise it that much....................................dodge/chrysler/fiat/ram....all of it. I mean if ur GIVING me a Viper, ill gladly take and look the other way...lol Just my two cents mister.
+Dan Smith u shld p.m. me
I have a 2011 Ford F-250 and it makes a really loud noise from that pump and it won’t crank, before it shut off on me it said reduced engine power and a low fuel pressure code but now it won’t start at all, any tips or ideas on what it could be ? Maybe changing the pump will fix it ? Thank youu in advance
The fuel pump has nothing to do with the engines ability to crank.......be more specific please..
Andres... what did u find out? My 2011 is doing the exact same thing
Mike Houston no sir I ended up letting it go
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Do u think you can help me out? Throwing code po192 Low Rail fuel pressure code...replaced both filters...truck can do fine for a week or 2 and then it will get to where it will crank and not start...wait a minute and try and fires right up...has stalled several times driving down the interstate...Took to ford dealer and they couldn't find anything
I need to put the comp on it to see what everything is reading. Lota of stuff
Is there a way to stop so much fuel from coming out?
Not really. Gotta be qwik
I need the yellow fitting line going from this pump to the fuel tank on a 172” wheel base. Cannot find it online anywhere at all. Can you provide apart number for this line, please???
Email me with the vin....
PowerStroke Tech Talk w/ARod... 1FT8W3BT4BEA55681. I’m putting a 65 gallon Titan in mine today and the yellow quick disconnect on the old tank was seized. Ended up breaking it trying to get it off.
Ok, i am est i will let u know tomorrow
PowerStroke Tech Talk w/ARod Thank you very much!!!
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Hey boss what code was it giving that you changed it out ?
Did customer change his fuel filters??
Dude I just had our 14 F550 in the shop for low fuel pressure, the pump was screaming. I took the FF off and checked to see if it was blocked it was ok. Put a new filter in and made sure it was tight and against the stop, still screamed. So I went and replaced the secondary and all is good. I think it was sucking air at the second filter!
+Kevin Sheriff Jr good find ud
ARod perfect timing seeing this video might have the same problem my 2015 F350 flashed a code of P0087, 28670 miles, changed the fuel filters, check engine light still on, can I get it cleared or bigger problem.
You need to just have it cleared with a little scan tool, shldnt b a issue
My pump isn’t making noise but it is leaking from somewhere and I can’t find the leak. I have replaced the O ring and the bottom housing 4-5 times and it’s still leaking so I guess I’m replacing the whole damn thing next!
Cool! Good thing i got a 6.2!
+DonnaSean yeah 6.2's r good
will you recommend only use motorcraft brand on this or can I go a little bit cheaper.?
Fomoco only
PowerStroke Tech Talk w/ARod thanks
What’s the best part store were I can order it from,Thank you.
I just bought this pump and I am getting ready to put it on tomorrow. I've been hearing a little bit of a wine but I figured with a hundred and forty thousand miles on the clock it wouldn't be a bad idea to proactively change it. Do you have any idea of the average lifespan these pumps have.
Got 1 with 340ish on it....
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod well I guess that means I'm being a little anal about it. I just figured for 400 bucks it's worth the Peace of Mind. Thanks for all your information I know all of us truly appreciate the help you provide
Thanks partner, i appreciate that!
Yeah I have 77k on my 12 and
It just started the buzz so I guess it’s time to replace
how come your diesel fuel is blue and mine is yellowish?
Just the way the light hit it. Cld be a lil different additive for you geographical location
I’m currently working on swapping my fuel cooler, I have the new cooler in however I am having troubles with fuel not stopping for me to repair the line. I tried unscrewing the filter because I thought that would stop the fuel flow but no help there, can a guy un due those connections, would that eliminate the fuel flow I’m getting at the fuel cooler end?
Budd, juss let the line drain out.......
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod ok I’ll try to do that man, but it seems to just keep going lol
Do you happen to have a video of the noise before replacing?
Loud screamin
Question, Is my fuel filter after the fuel pump or before? I have two filters, one under the hood and one under the truck. I am worried about failure of the fuel pump sending small metal pieces into the injectors.
Thanks much!
It is in the fuel pump, pumps from tank, filters..then sends to secondary filter for further filtering...the rest is history!
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Thanks!
On the replacement pump, does it come with a filter also? Not sure if I need to open the new one up to add the filter and o-ring.
Yes it comes with a filter
Thanks so much for the response.
I changed it and cycled the pump at least 8 times to prime it. But no fuel in the filter yet. Any suggestions there?
U have an air lock. Need to remove the air lock
Thanks again. Happy new year
Ditto
What’s that bottom gray sensor , mine some how broke ?
Water in fuel sensor
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thanks for response , do you suggest replacing it ?
Yea! If it broke...
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod 🙏🏻🙏🏻
i changed my fuel pump because i was getting a low pressure warning light, after i started it it ran for about one minute and shut off after that it wont start again im confused, is there a chance air in the line may have shut me down? if so how do i bleed the line?
Yea, u need to take the supply line off top filter and purge air out that you put in
PowerStroke Tech Talk w/ARod to purge do I turn the key to the on position
Sure doo
Thank you! It’s still not working so I’m going to change both filters and try again. Originally the warning light low fuel pressure came on and then it went to reduced power mode and now it’s in ‘no go mode’ lol
Gotta keep priming it push fuel out eventually
Do you have to prime it and how would you go about doing it and also great vid
Goto my Playlist section and watch the water in fuel video, we talk about this
Thank god you don’t have to drop the tank to change the pump lol
By screaming you mean a constant buzz when the truck is running ?
Shld be buzzing
how loud was the scream ? I after numerous complaints got mine replaced for an obnoxious whine they kept saying it was a bad /clogged filter causing it to draw in air (I agreed it was drawing air but not why)but 3 filters and 3 orings in 10k I whined louder than the pump (cost was redicilous 3 filter with less than 1000 miles each before noise returned )and got it replaced Which eliminated the whine noise both the pumps and mine. Lol
+Bleeding Diesel903 lololol, yea loud enough for you to be like what the hell...is that. Some have set the engine light, or low fuel pressure warning like this 1 did
Just changed the filters and cycled the fuel pump 8 times for 30 seconds. Truck started driving sluggish as hell after a mile then ran fine for a little bit (maybe 15 miles and started the sluggish again). Just drive it to work and it ran fine (4 miles). Is my pump going bad? I can hear it whining when starting it and driving. Doesn’t seem overly loud though. Suggestions please!
R u sure you tightened the cap all the way, I have seen that A LOT
Just like a pro!
+milkman99100 😉😉😉
Thanks alot
Is there anyway you would have the part# for the blue clips or a alternative/aftermarket clip
No
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod so am I just shit out of luck ?
If you need the clips they are available in the lines. That's how Ford sells them. If your not wanting to replacing the whole GD lines then you will have to look on line & look for what you need. Did you read the comments yet.....there is info there....
Very helpful.
Finally got it to budge had to take off the whole seal off the fitting and put a new one and primed the pump good to go now.
You called it a low pressure fuel pump,
Does that mean these engines also have a high pressure fuel pump?
Thanks in advance
Yes