They brush over it but Amber has the best description of Sorkin shows ever " he's just writing out the fantasies he has in the shower after watching the morning News" In my own scripts early on that was a thing that crept into my writing and my partner had to pull me up on that kind of self indulgence. My point is I grew out of that at 17 but I know what it's like, the smugness that sneaks its way onto the page, Sorkin is like twice my age, he should have learnt
One of my top 5 Chapo episodes. I have lost count of how many times I've listened to it. "Women do be talking like that" makes me piss myself laughing every time.
Who needs a gun when you have a great big pile of COCAINE TO FUEL YOUR WRITING AT 330 IN THE MORNING WHEN YOURSCRIPTISDUEAT9!!!!!!!!! Although I know he was clean by this point, that disconnection from reality persists.
What makes Chapo the greatest podcast on Earth? There is absolutely no evidence to support that claim. Chapo is the 44th most listened to podcast on Spotify. They lead the world in only one category: number of episodes about Rod Dreher, more episodes than the next twenty podcasts combined. I don't know what the hell you're talking about?! Sure used to be though...
What if there was a new Aaron Sorkin show that was Aaron Sorkin digging his own grave and then being shot and falling into it and then all of his works were stuffed inside with his corpse and then buried and then nobody ever spoke of him or his works again.
I think its the total opposite, you can see it during that moment on Crossfire back in the day when John Stewart first called him out, Tucker decided to be the bad guy. I think he purposefully abandoned the truth in favor of control over the masses.
This show would've been way better if Jeff newsrooms coverage of the goddamn news actually did affect the events and politics of the country and the world It would be totally ridiculous but would be far more entertaining than the actual show is
The best scene in the (GODDAMN)Newsroom was the global warming interview with the guy from the office as the EPA representative, because the show seemed to imply that this guy's gone off the deep end, but every climate headline since that show aired has just made him more correct. He's now objectively right.
Global Warming is the biggest embarrassment of leftwing political prognostication PRECISELY BECAUSE every single prediction they have made has been wildly wrong. Watch An Inconvenient Truth in 2023 it's completely discrediting.
Jeff newsroom reminds us all that we are, in fact, Americans. That’s confusing for those of us who are not Americans, but it’s the price of American freedom nonetheless.
To expand an the shower thing; This show is the same as the one where the big reveal is that it’s all happening inside a kid’s snow globe, but instead of a snow globe it’s all happening inside sorkin’s head in the shower
Man, I remember when this show was out. I was working my college newspaper and everyone, being the young idealist we were, ate this show up. I'm sure it's aged horribly but I'll always be found of the memory of it.
Oh definetly acting like a Sorkin character, they really hit on something with the west wing episode in that Sorkins politics are vastly more influential than are given credit for. And his politics are absolute and complete horseshit.
All of Sorkin's shows are the same. The same witty banter. The same hot-cold personalities. 'Flammable' and 'inflammable' meaning the same thing. And being a child of the 70's, Sorkin is always keen to have his smart characters play chess.
Funny thing is, when Sorkin has to write about a specific actual human being or situation and there is a great director to filter through his scripts, his writing is fantastic. Both “Steve Jobs” and “The Social Network” are fascinating portraits of *unique* men that surely required a crazy amount of research, while everything he has written that is fictional is embarrassing moderate/liberal trite. And his directing skills clearly don’t measure up to his screenwriting skills.
Mark in The Social Network acts like a Sorkin character but everyone responds to him like how people would in real life, i.e. being annoyed and turned off.
@@anyoneattheendoftime4932 yeah, it's one of the things that's SO GOOD about that movie. It's an active deconstruction of the standard Sorkin character.
@@HorsefaceKillaMoneyball is the one they should have done the most, because you get to see Sorkins bafflingly stupid views on economics on full display.
If you like this episode, you'll like The West Wing Thing with Josh Olsen and Dave Anthony. They managed to make it through the show, so it's ended now, but they did every single episode of the show, plus a few.
My favorite part of THE Newsroom is the last scene where Jeff is hiking some trail in Yosemite and the camera zooms onto his face and with a smile and a tear he said," This place is alright." And then it zooms out to a wide shot of Inspiration Point with a bald eagle flying by and making the wrong noise.
Speaking of Jane Fonda, if you think of Millennial/Gen Zs as being very similar to their Boomer grandparents (which I do) in terms of their smug, smirking certainty that they've cracked the code , and are on the verge of transforming society, it's SUPER satisfying to anticipate the "1977" stage of their life journey. That pendulum tho! 🤣😉🤣
49:36 No, Aaron. It really doesn't look good that you wrote her to say that then wrote him to tell her that she feels the wrong way about it. It's really, really not a good look. Or, like, I don't know writing a character who is incensed at the impropriety of someone bringing a gun into his home taking it from the purse and approach her with it in his apartment. But I guess if she made sensible decisions based on the news, she'd already have a man to take her gun from her and lecture her and she doesn't even need to worry about dark alleys.
Can someone explain to me how you measure which countries “have freedom?” 🤔 I wouldn’t be surprised if this guy was using the Heritage Foundation “Freedom Index.”
The way people gush over this show is bizarre. I look at comments praising insane stuff and it just boggles the mind especially people who like that one characters screaming banshee speech about a power outage being a miracle
As a non American and someone who was not ivolved in any capacity of the"newscoverage" of the show. Someone who watched it just for the show it was and wasn't looking at it as just a dream fanatasy of Aaron Sorkin. I thought the show was great. Still think it is. its in my top 5 shows. Because its not just about the news. Its about a group of pationate people who forking love doing what they do. And want to do it better day in and day out. Its about flawed characters who are striving to do better and wish that the world was a bit better. And i think the Sorkin dialogs are really fun to listen to. They are snappy and flows really well with not much time waisted on some bs.
@@neomcdoom it's called growing up, Felix touched on it in the west wing episode, if your 14, the perfect age to be a Lib, then they are great but eventually you grow and realize that Sorkin like the politics he loves, only deals in fantasy.
Wow, I just came from your West Wing video, and unsurprisingly, you start off with BS. How the hell is the Newsroom a sequel to the West Wing? What, because they had the same writer? That doesn't make it a sequel. You people kill me.
@@dirrdevil I'm seriously having a difficult time trying to figure out if your comment was meant to be funny. Certainly no one could actually utter the words....spiritual sequel...and expect to be taken seriously. And if only the lunacy stopped there. But nope. You have to one up it, talking some nonsense about the same person in charge....the same person in charge? Are you talking about Sorkin? He's a screenwriter and director. That doesn't make him in charge. But even if he was, what are you suggesting exactly? That everything they write about or direct, is a sequel to each other? If your comment was simply meant to be tongue-n-cheek, you need to work on that. But if it was serious?.....Well....unfortunately no amount of work is likely to help you.
That gun scene sure was well thought out. What was she supposed to do? Shoot him with an unloaded gun? Even if it was loaded was she supposed to commit murder?
Jeff Newsroom, go out there and DO THE GODDAMN NEWS.
Pilot the newsroom Jeff, or Rei will have to do it again.
...
News.
Go, Jeff, and News to the extreme!
“News man walking!” lives rent free in my head
They brush over it but Amber has the best description of Sorkin shows ever " he's just writing out the fantasies he has in the shower after watching the morning News"
In my own scripts early on that was a thing that crept into my writing and my partner had to pull me up on that kind of self indulgence.
My point is I grew out of that at 17 but I know what it's like, the smugness that sneaks its way onto the page, Sorkin is like twice my age, he should have learnt
He's a child of wealth, telling him to write better is oppression
He never had to learn. He was too successful too early and just kept playing the hits.
Yeah and the worst part is that he knows this, see the episode psychoanalyzing Aaron Sorkin for more
@@fkrkf He's a POC (Person of Capital)
i’m dying to read this guys scripts, they have to be dogshit there’s no way they are good at all.
One of my top 5 Chapo episodes. I have lost count of how many times I've listened to it. "Women do be talking like that" makes me piss myself laughing every time.
same, I can run it back after listening to it
Timestamp?
@@dr.s897250:17
That gun scene is perfect because it demonstrates Sorkin had never handled a gun, and knows absolutely nothing about them.
Who needs a gun when you have a great big pile of COCAINE TO FUEL YOUR WRITING AT 330 IN THE MORNING WHEN YOURSCRIPTISDUEAT9!!!!!!!!!
Although I know he was clean by this point, that disconnection from reality persists.
and, arguably much more importantly, felt no need to consult anybody who does.
Yeah I mean the fact that he's never experimented with a gun is seemingly no matter whatsoever good or bad.
Look out we got a gun nerd
Chapo v Sorkin content is some of the best they’ve ever done
I actually have very fond memories of drinking beer after beer and scoffing at The Newsroom. Good times.
The " working class " liberal week end
I remember really wanting to like it, watching two episodes and then concluding it was pap and giving up immediately.
I glanced at this and saw “coofing”, and I was like, ‘Rona and The Newsroom, rough quarantine lmao
More like the boozeroom amiright gottem
What makes Chapo the greatest podcast on Earth? There is absolutely no evidence to support that claim. Chapo is the 44th most listened to podcast on Spotify. They lead the world in only one category: number of episodes about Rod Dreher, more episodes than the next twenty podcasts combined. I don't know what the hell you're talking about?!
Sure used to be though...
Lmaoooo
At least they still cover the god damned news
THE GODDAMN NEWS
Newsman walking!
@@Advent3546 Y'all keep that news down in there, you hear?
So is Sorkins whole message about how important it is to be a moderate
No. It's the importance of being a SMUG moderate. The kind of moderate that says things wine moms would describe as pithy if they knew the word
@@fartpimpson3843 that is a fire burn not gonna lie.
it's about the importance of drug use and the centrality of cocaine in Amerikkkan domestic politics
And yell at women apparently
@@grnmjolnir only women with guys names though
Matt's song about doing the news is a Chapo all timer.
It not in this video tho
Fuck, why did you cut out the intro of Matt scream singing NEWS.
That little pause after "Actually, statistics..." is the most contemptuous split second I've ever heard.
“80s guitar solo of dialogue that doesn’t lead anywhere” followed by the example clips is hilarious.
If you want to get depressed find a clip of the stewardess lecture, then read TH-cam comments praising it for being the best show ever
This show sounds psychotic.
Every Sorkin show is deeply unwell to wildly unhinged.
90% sexism, 10% democrat brain
Well at least he's cool 90% of the time
@@GaziRahman-rt2ep dudes rock
What if there was a new Aaron Sorkin show that was Aaron Sorkin digging his own grave and then being shot and falling into it and then all of his works were stuffed inside with his corpse and then buried and then nobody ever spoke of him or his works again.
Needs a walk-and-talk
@@mortimerwake2974 it starts with him being walked out at gunpoint to where he digs his own grave
Ah, an idyllic picture
Call it _The Nooseroom_
This is clearly a Shonda Rhimes pitch
Newsing _so goddamn hard_ right now, oh my *god.*
The best Chapo content.
18:14 It's gotten to the point where I now call him 18:48 Jeff Newsroom instead of 20:09 Jeff Daniels.
i think tucker saw this show and thought, yeah, thats me, the badass journalist that tells the Truth.
I think its the total opposite, you can see it during that moment on Crossfire back in the day when John Stewart first called him out, Tucker decided to be the bad guy. I think he purposefully abandoned the truth in favor of control over the masses.
I'm glad for this re-upload. I didn't get to finish this first time around. Thanks Comrade.
E.R. did the "walk-and-talk" really well too.
The early seasons of er is one of the few shows that has held up at all from that era. Er, x files, and star trek
Yes ER was the first to do it really well.
This show would've been way better if Jeff newsrooms coverage of the goddamn news actually did affect the events and politics of the country and the world
It would be totally ridiculous but would be far more entertaining than the actual show is
The best scene in the (GODDAMN)Newsroom was the global warming interview with the guy from the office as the EPA representative, because the show seemed to imply that this guy's gone off the deep end, but every climate headline since that show aired has just made him more correct. He's now objectively right.
Global Warming is the biggest embarrassment of leftwing political prognostication PRECISELY BECAUSE every single prediction they have made has been wildly wrong. Watch An Inconvenient Truth in 2023 it's completely discrediting.
No.
It's a contemplation on Stoicism, Amor Fati, "love your fate", love the news.
Nay, love _the god damned_ news.
Jeff newsroom reminds us all that we are, in fact, Americans. That’s confusing for those of us who are not Americans, but it’s the price of American freedom nonetheless.
And as an American, its a price you should be proud to pay.
YOU CANT HANDLE THE GODDAMN NEWS
Andrew Sorkin American Mythologist
in before it gets taken down again lol
1:05:58 this is the smoothest way, someone has gotten someone to reiterate a bit/observation.
Brendan is a wizard
Basically: liberalism personified
5:45 HAHA I've had that same thought about Sorkin's writing. He's just writing down his desperate, impotent ranting from the shower.
You have MEDDLED with the FORCES of NATURE, Mr. Newsroom!!!
To expand an the shower thing; This show is the same as the one where the big reveal is that it’s all happening inside a kid’s snow globe, but instead of a snow globe it’s all happening inside sorkin’s head in the shower
Man, I remember when this show was out. I was working my college newspaper and everyone, being the young idealist we were, ate this show up. I'm sure it's aged horribly but I'll always be found of the memory of it.
So the question is.. Is Joe Scarborough acting as Jeff Newsroom or is it the other way around?
Oh definetly acting like a Sorkin character, they really hit on something with the west wing episode in that Sorkins politics are vastly more influential than are given credit for. And his politics are absolute and complete horseshit.
All of Sorkin's shows are the same. The same witty banter. The same hot-cold personalities. 'Flammable' and 'inflammable' meaning the same thing. And being a child of the 70's, Sorkin is always keen to have his smart characters play chess.
This is sacrilege! How dare you cut out Matt's beautiful song at the beginning?!
felix making the same breakfast club joke as the west wing episode is so funny
Doin the goddamn newwwwwws!
ty for your service
Take out all the jokes and good writing from Anchorman.
Funny thing is, when Sorkin has to write about a specific actual human being or situation and there is a great director to filter through his scripts, his writing is fantastic. Both “Steve Jobs” and “The Social Network” are fascinating portraits of *unique* men that surely required a crazy amount of research, while everything he has written that is fictional is embarrassing moderate/liberal trite. And his directing skills clearly don’t measure up to his screenwriting skills.
Mark in The Social Network acts like a Sorkin character but everyone responds to him like how people would in real life, i.e. being annoyed and turned off.
Moneyball also
@@anyoneattheendoftime4932 very good point
@@anyoneattheendoftime4932 yeah, it's one of the things that's SO GOOD about that movie.
It's an active deconstruction of the standard Sorkin character.
@@HorsefaceKillaMoneyball is the one they should have done the most, because you get to see Sorkins bafflingly stupid views on economics on full display.
This episode just made me realize that Chapo is just a doomer version of Aaron Sorkin.
Westwing and now Newsroom 😂
This gonna be good 👏
Christman whispers “put his news into her”
it’s the god damn news
If you like this episode, you'll like The West Wing Thing with Josh Olsen and Dave Anthony.
They managed to make it through the show, so it's ended now, but they did every single episode of the show, plus a few.
I liked some of West Wing Thing, but goddamn Dave Anthony is so annoying.
My favorite part of THE Newsroom is the last scene where Jeff is hiking some trail in Yosemite and the camera zooms onto his face and with a smile and a tear he said," This place is alright." And then it zooms out to a wide shot of Inspiration Point with a bald eagle flying by and making the wrong noise.
They all sound so young. Five years is a long time.
There's another show called The Newsroom which is really good. It was made in the 90s.
I'm doing the news now
Speaking of Jane Fonda, if you think of Millennial/Gen Zs as being very similar to their Boomer grandparents (which I do) in terms of their smug, smirking certainty that they've cracked the code , and are on the verge of transforming society, it's SUPER satisfying to anticipate the "1977" stage of their life journey. That pendulum tho! 🤣😉🤣
I doubt they come back to this particular well but they should really review Studio 60, objectively the most ridiculous thing that Sorkin ever did.
They did review it and you can find it on my channel
@@acidmarxist1867 Ty friend
Why is every dialogue like Huey, Dewey and Louie speaking with another.
You cut out Matt's singing the Newsroom intro at the beginning nooooooo ;_;
What the news room could be…if trivial things were different.
49:36 No, Aaron. It really doesn't look good that you wrote her to say that then wrote him to tell her that she feels the wrong way about it. It's really, really not a good look. Or, like, I don't know writing a character who is incensed at the impropriety of someone bringing a gun into his home taking it from the purse and approach her with it in his apartment. But I guess if she made sensible decisions based on the news, she'd already have a man to take her gun from her and lecture her and she doesn't even need to worry about dark alleys.
I miss the good producer more than virgil
1:14:26 what the actual fuck
came here to see if anyone picked up on that
He has said 'this article is going to give me a stroke' like a dozen times, it's mostly Megan mcgriddle's fault
I mean Matt always had health issues, hardly a Nostradamus prediction.
I'm struggling to picture Jeff Newsroom doing fucking CQC.
THE GOD DAMNED NEWS!
This is literally about the news
They really should do moneyball, as a baseball fan it is rage inducing the attitude he has towards the sports lack of a salary cap.
Virgil jumpscare
Is this the famed re recorded will ep
All I have to say is that Allison Pill is in this and she is a QT. (KIM PINE UWU!!1!1!!)
The Gilmore Wonks
30:01 Oh Felix definitely smashed Amber.
Thinking Jeff is worse than Tony Soprano is wild.
In real life, "Don" is married to Amanda Seyfried. I think he did pretty good for a troll.
Can someone explain to me how you measure which countries “have freedom?” 🤔 I wouldn’t be surprised if this guy was using the Heritage Foundation “Freedom Index.”
Hashtag newsing
How could they say this, sorkin is literally neurodivergent and a minor ?
The way people gush over this show is bizarre. I look at comments praising insane stuff and it just boggles the mind especially people who like that one characters screaming banshee speech about a power outage being a miracle
This show represents the “I say fuck and shit so that makes me authentic” liberal very well
News
If this is the same show that had the climate scientist doomsday guy then that's like the only good thing from the show.
what if instead of the newsroom it was the jew's room and [REDACTED]
Hell yeah, dude
Operation taste of their own medicine
Huh? I'm not sure what I'm supposed to think you mean.
Settle down Nick.
46:00 To be fair, the raging sexist Sorkin might have had a point here lol, given everything that has happened since.
I’ve watched this video like 3 times and this shows writing is still astonishingly bad to me
Yeah but, Olivia Munn.
Thats how they got me! I was like, well, it's on HBO, and she's certainly not an actor, so... eventually....
NOT. ONE. TIME. 🤬
As a non American and someone who was not ivolved in any capacity of the"newscoverage" of the show. Someone who watched it just for the show it was and wasn't looking at it as just a dream fanatasy of Aaron Sorkin. I thought the show was great. Still think it is. its in my top 5 shows. Because its not just about the news. Its about a group of pationate people who forking love doing what they do. And want to do it better day in and day out. Its about flawed characters who are striving to do better and wish that the world was a bit better. And i think the Sorkin dialogs are really fun to listen to. They are snappy and flows really well with not much time waisted on some bs.
Are you over 60 and think Hillary Clinton is a good person?
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i love to hatewatch this show. Sorkin is oddly compelling
Awww. I used to like this show. Ruined it for me, now.
You don’t have to hate everything Chapo traphouse hates
whatever dude keep liking what you like it’s just a podcast talking about just a tv show
You're allowed to like dumb shit. It's just preferable that you recognize it's dumb shit
@@neomcdoom YES YOU DOU!
@@neomcdoom it's called growing up, Felix touched on it in the west wing episode, if your 14, the perfect age to be a Lib, then they are great but eventually you grow and realize that Sorkin like the politics he loves, only deals in fantasy.
Newsroom is bad but 4 pompous nerds talking about it?now that’s grade A entertainment ?
Yes
Lol could you be any straighter
@@TheRantMaster53 yes
there's 6 sir
Hell Yeah
This podcast sounds like 3 high school idiots cackling at each other. Yikes.
Wow, I just came from your West Wing video, and unsurprisingly, you start off with BS. How the hell is the Newsroom a sequel to the West Wing? What, because they had the same writer? That doesn't make it a sequel. You people kill me.
r/woooosh
Not a literal sequel. A spiritual sequel. In the same vein of, and yes because of the same person in charge. How dense are you?
@@dirrdevil I'm seriously having a difficult time trying to figure out if your comment was meant to be funny. Certainly no one could actually utter the words....spiritual sequel...and expect to be taken seriously. And if only the lunacy stopped there. But nope. You have to one up it, talking some nonsense about the same person in charge....the same person in charge? Are you talking about Sorkin? He's a screenwriter and director. That doesn't make him in charge. But even if he was, what are you suggesting exactly? That everything they write about or direct, is a sequel to each other?
If your comment was simply meant to be tongue-n-cheek, you need to work on that. But if it was serious?.....Well....unfortunately no amount of work is likely to help you.
@@jeremybr2020 again... r/woooosh
@@RobHel Again....caught you the first time. Do actually have anything of substance to add or is that the extent of your vocabulary?
That gun scene sure was well thought out. What was she supposed to do? Shoot him with an unloaded gun? Even if it was loaded was she supposed to commit murder?
That show sounds awful