I think that if the series abandon the idea of nerfing everyone do Marinette is the only one who can shine, all the powers would have the potential to be broken too
Thomas literally had the rooster kwami and Gabriel talk about it and the rooster can’t copy miraculous powers. Only the butterfly and peacock can copy powers and Gabriel won’t use the butterfly to time travel because he is worried about ladybug and cat noir making the connection between him and monarch I guess
To be fair: with the snake miraculous it doesnt have to be 5 minutes anymore if you're an adult. You just set the temporal marker and can go back after any time as long as you havent detransformed
@@MechaEmperor7000 I mean that from Marinette being in a classroom, them stopping a meteor, Bugfighter being akumatized and Cosmobug being caught is way more than 5 minutes bro. He was constantly going back in time from Cosmobug being caught to them being in classroom again, I doubt it would all happen in 5 minutes lmao
@@katsunAC Yeah, Frieza Time. It's from Dragon Ball Z where Frieza said he caused the planet they were fighting on to detonate in 5 minutes and proceed to drag out the fight over several episodes. It's particularly egregious because he, at several points, holds a conversation with Goku that lasts longer than 5 minutes. They tried explaining this as them all behaving ultra-fast in the original dub, so we weren't watching it in real time (this was an issue for several reasons). In the Kai Compilation they offered a much more sensible reason: Frieza was just bad at math. He even subconsciously go "wait, it should have blown up by now. did I underestimate it again?" imply that this happens quite frequently with him.
I think it's been clearly shown that it's not about what miraculous you have, it's about how you use it. Every single power can be in the God tier just by using it correctly. Felix probably is the best example of this argument
As the user is the one setting the limits, this is especially true. Since each power has a concept, they should be able to expand on them like ladybug did, as long as it is in line with their concept. I imagine the Dog, being adoration would not only allow one to retrieve an object the ball has touched, but possibly bring the user to the object touched or the ball itself. If that were the case you have a quick step teleport ability that amps up it’s ability.
To be fair the peacock is genuinely a broken no pum intended miraculous like let's be real no matter how strong and limitless i would be as a holder i can just not picture the pig miraculous or the ox miraculous being anything more than a distraction or a defensive resistance
@@den1m0ut55 That all depends on you’re understanding of the concepts. Determination for instance, resistance allows you to be immune to other superpowers which is a great defense, but expanding on the concept to the next level of power, determination is the resolute pursuit of one’s goals, given the bill and the baseline, the next step is clearly invulnerability to physical attacks as well, and it is easy to turn this into a further the ability to become unstoppable, think Juggernaut from the comics. The pig essentially all about positivity, jubilation being the feeling of happiness or triumph. As gift gives people a reason to be happy, the next level would likely be adding to gift’s potential content. While able to show people their greatest desire, they could also heal and revivify the target, or contain ‘party favors’ in the form of extra effects themed after celebratory themes, giving gift some offensive capability, exploding glitter bomb anyone? Tangle the villain up in a eruption of streamers? Or fill them with fire works and point them at your enemy. You’ve already distracted them so they are an easy target.
Let's not forget about the secondary powers. The cat miraculous also has night vision and the ladybug has magic good luck. Secondary powers could be a good way to buff some of the weaker miraculouses.
@@wellidontknow1941 Cat Noir had a night vision in one episode, Ladybug's "magic good luck" is just her usual power(Lucky charm), it's not secondary, it's her main power
Completely underrated the eagle. The power is freedom from ‘anything you choose’ not just what is holding them back. This is a lot more powerful especially against Akuma, because “I free you from your hatred” is an immediate defeat of any akumatized villain, and honestly applies to any villain, because you can free them of the thing motivating them to commit crime “I free you from your greed, I free you from your insanity, I free you from your apathy”. Sure, it could also be used to buff an Allie, but don’t underestimate what it is capable of, because it is essentially altering the way people think, which is super powerful if you think about it. The goat, while not as powerful as the ladybug, should also not be underestimated, because while you can’t make anything magical, you can still create anything you can think of, and as shown, distance and size doesn’t matter. That means you can put this giant akumas in a cage, want to knock them out? Sleeping gas, you can create any gadget you can think of, sure it’s not magical, but considering in this world they created super AI, super rockets, and a robot police force not powered by magic, this opens the door for tons of powerful abilities for anyone with a good imagination. Or heck, put it in the hands of a chemist and you have a full metal alchemist without the equivalent exchange.
"Eagle can free them from their hatred" that would work if the person has a desire to do so. Some people r very good in minuplating their feelings (like Lila in revelation pointed her hatred towards marinette and monarch couldn't realize that while her plan was to take him down). She can free them from that only if they want to. If u will use them on somebody who doesn't wish to get their negative emotions off, they will develop it again because they choose to. What I mean to say that there r some people who wants to do something that is wrong but at the same time they consciously know that they shouldn't do that because it's not good. In this situation they want to get off from those thing and here eagle can help, but it won't work if they don't feel that what is is wrong.
@@BabitaKumari-hk9ci this doesn’t seem to be the case, as when used the villain could free people from promises, moral codes, etc which they would never violate otherwise. If it could just be resisted by the hero saying ‘no, I don’t want to let loose and destroy the world with the strength I process because I don’t want to do that’ they would have. Clearly it has no issue making people acting the opposite of what they would be removing the virtuous characteristics they possess, so the opposite would be true by removing the negative characteristics.
@@BabitaKumari-hk9ci you made a slightly valid point however she frees them from whatever they feel. Yes they could try to get that emotion back but emotions don’t come and go that easily and hawk moth(or whatever his name is like his 100th name or something) only acumatized strong negative emotions doubt there emotions will be that strong after everything unless it a situation like chloe. After people where acumatized they forget what happened and while being clueless on what situation their in they’ll most likely have a hard time get their negative emotions back yea they can break out of it but that’s not the case is it?
@@BabitaKumari-hk9cibut just as a temporary solution would be enough to detach them from the moth thing (I forgot what it is called) and turn them back to human
@@Derp1est as we have seen, the emotion is what ultimately ties the person to the akuma, any time the negative emotion goes away, the akuma cannot work on them, and an akumatized villain can reject an akuma by letting go of the negative feeling. The Eagle is a shortcut to that, and you could even argue they don’t even need to target the emotion as they can target the akuma itself as it is holding them back from being their best self.
One year later and I still stand by this: “I personally would say that the butterfly miraculous has gotten weaker, especially since season 4, because more and more people are able to just de-akumatize themselfs (Alya, Nino, Sabine, Chloe) or even resist the akumatization in the first place (Chloe, Felix). The power of the peacock miraculous is basically a combination of all other miraculouses! You don't even need a second person in order to have a strong partner on your side! Sentimonsters are the only objects/living beings that can't be destroyed or weakend by a cataclysm! Even if your opponent manages to steal the object with the amok in it, you still can destroy the sentimonster, so that your opponent can't use your own sentimonster against you! If you ask me, the peacock miraculous is the strongest miraculous and I don't think that it is going to change any time soon! For people who think that the rabbit miraculous is the strongest: With the peacock miraculous you can literally create a Bunnyx-Sentimonster!“
I still disagree. To resist the akumatization you need a pretty strong will. And you can akumatize yourself with the power of any other miraculous aswell. And if you really want to mess with the person you can just put the akuma in an object and destroy it or hide it, meaning you don't lose your power. If you hide the object with the amok, you can't control the sentimonster. And you can give yourself Bunnix's powers with the butterfly miraculous aswell..
Very true and we might also actually see the butterfly miraculous in the hands of a child/teen so we might see what the word to activate the special power might be and and how they transform back. I wanna see that
Let's not forget that while Gabe needed a help to become the Scarlett Moth (or whatever tf he was called) to send out multiple Akumas; it was established in the origins episode that Akumas can multiply so he could just summon one, let it cook for a bit, then send out an army.
A better idea is to send one villain and then use the negative energy from what they do to send another immediately. And then another, and another and another. It’s that simple, just keep the conveyor belt moving. You can beat one villain, and multiple at once, but can you beat an endless line of villains?
@@DaltonIzHere the power of the butterfly was broken to begin with, as it originally made an army of akuma, something they dropped for any future instances of getting the butterfly back. Honestly the writers are not go at applying the powers to begin with, and seem to just do whatever sounds cool in the moment and ignore the ramifications that come later.
@@Thewaterspirit57 and yet it has still never been touched on again, despite being a instant army. How hard is it to Akumatize Natalie, break the akuma out, and generate an army? No, that is so simple that the ‘mastermind’ can’t possibly think of it. Just like ‘hide the akumatized object’ is so difficult a concept to grasp he can only think of it once.
The dog really impressed me this season, using it to summon weapons or a large object to drop on some one, but it’s a street level power not an avengers level power. The dog and goat are just super watered down versions of the lady bug.
Remember, the miraculous are capable of more since the power is limited by the user. If you think of the concepts and how they could apply technically that should be possible. Thus if Fetch is about adoration, could you not also ‘fetch’ yourself to the ball turning it into a short range teleport? Or fetch to an object touched to teleport to a villains lair? Both are within the lines of logic presented. Passion technically is more powerful since it paints imagination into reality, sure it cannot create magic, but if you can draw anything, any size or distance and have it be real, you can manipulate a battlefield from on top of a building.
I feel like the Goat and Ladybug powers are pretty different in terms of how they're used. They both create something, but the Goat allows you to create anything you can think of, while the Ladybug creates something for you. The Goat is more about creativity, while the Ladybug is more about strategy.
I think the horse is actually really dangerous. You could open a portal to make water, lava, or other dangerous substances into the battlefield. Maybe you could open a small portal into your enemies body and make them bleed out. I also think the monkey is really good because you could just mess up someone’s power. Also, knowing on the show’s insistence of keeping the butterfly as the main villain miraculous, do you have any other ideas for new villains. I think it would be cool to see the ghosts of past miraculous holders.
@@powerpuff6872 In fairness, if you're a superhero, as the video suggests, you don't want to do that. You want to defeat the enemy without killing them. If anything, Hawk Moth was lucky that Cat Noir had become Snake Noir or else Miracle Queen would have rendered him permanently unable to achieve his goal.
Honestly I don’t think the hose can do micro portals as the initial size is that of a hand, and it opens to slow to allow spatial slicing. Even then it doesn’t seem to allow things to pass through if you did something like that, as Pegasus opened a portal into a coin filled safe and nothing fell back trough, the portal seems to at the very least stabilize travel since it doesn’t create a vacuum when it creates portals in space. Given the power is based on migration, it makes sense it is oriented more to the act of travel rather than cutting through things. Of course. Given it is only limited by the user though, those ideas may not be off the table.
If you think about it, the show works as well with the powers on the other side 2 villains, one with the power of destruction and one who can always summon a relevant object and fix all the mess they made On the other side we have one hero who needs to fight them both so they will grant powers to one of their friends that is going through some hard time and they will snatch the miraculouses out of them. The Ladybug vilain can remove the akumatized hero's power so they will have to be very careful In this scenario the villains are people who just want to cause chaos and have a different plan to terrorize Paris every day
Honestly, every miraculous is powerful if the user is smart enough. It’s like the powers are only as strong as the users so if you had the pig or dog and you could use them correctly, they’d be broken
I love that the power balance in this show equates to a playground game with children who just keep ramping up their invincibility just so they don't lose.
Also, with further evidence of the pig’s power it’s shown to be the polar opposite to the eagle. While the Eagle frees you from mental blocks, the pig traps you in your inner mental wish/Desire.
it’d be cool if they started introducing more Miraculous based off mythical creatures like a Phoenix, Pegasus, Hydra, Kraken, Minotaur, etc. and have them be generally way more powerful than the average ones. It’d probably be better if they gave these miraculous to antagonists to up the stakes, but just having them in general would be cool imo
Great idea, but it wouldn't really make any sense for them to be more powerful since su han stated that the main miracle box is the most powerful miracle box ever created known as the mother box holding the strongest kwamis
A Medusa miraculous would be fun to see! I could see a chimera miraculous working by copying the powers of 3 others, with the catch that they either have double the strength at the cost of a halved timelimit, or that they can be switched out, but only after being used 3 times each. You could also combine the 3 abilities of said miraculous into a new ability, but said power would tire the user quickly after 4 uses.
@@princeAli2.0well is that in total? If so just have them not be a set and rather regional ones created in the same area. So each one has no relation to the others. Because I thought just having the creation/destruction is what made it the most powerful collection?
A few ways I believe they could buff the cat miraculous is: give Adrien selective destruction so he can activate his ability and choose not to immediately destroy when he touches something. give him the ability like many other miraculous wielders to use his weapon as a part of his power and to balance it out make it more difficult to control. add some long range options. let him cataclysm two-handed. So when he uses up one he can immediately use the second one and ready up the used hand simultaneously or quickly together.
@kubat4925 No, I mean if he touches something with cataclysm, he can either choose not to destroy it or alternatively choose to destroy a part of it and not the entire object.
@@TheUnamedOne832 and precisely that's what he can do in Canon. He only destroyed a bit of the wall in Evillustrator when he went for the light switch and only destroyed a bit of the ground just so Antibug wouldn't get stuck instead of all 3 brawlers falling straight into the pool underneath them
17:12 Actually, that power would not work due to the 'the power cannot disrupt the power of another qwami' rule. Basically Uriko cannot give you a power to deactivate a miraculous since an active miraculous is part of a qwami's magic
I feel like Orikko lied to Gabriel. Because according to him his power can't take the form of a wish, yet rooster bold gave himself the power to never miss a goal.
I'd be fascinated to hear how you would unify different miraculous, as an example you said about how the dogs limitation being only a single ball would restrict how often you could fetch, imagine being able to pair it with mouse, 100 mini clones, access to 100 balls each and if you tie the ball to the skipping rope you never actually lose the ball or pick it up you essentially turn it into a magical sticky hand toy.
I’ve always wondered if the writers wrote themselves into a corner when they established the miracle box had X amount of miraculous because they had to try and come up with more power sets than they had ideas for at the start, especially with how quickly they were churning out the new hero’s once the ball got rolling. Miraculous has a massive power scale problem and cross over with some power sets and I genuinely think that it is a result of them not having planned out that many supporting heros. With as popular as the MCU’s ensemble films got I think a few people have run away with the idea of an extended superhero cast without realising you need to set up the foundation and ground work before you can effectively use a large hero group
18:38 if that's really what limits this power then Gabriel really is a total smooth brain. He could have acumatized himself with a power to bring back people to life or heal anyone with just a touch (also a byisness opirtunity to become a millionere if you ask me) but he didn't even try. We know he can acumatize himself so why not? But then again, we are talking about Gabriel. Sometimes he has summed IQ of a fish and a brick.
SPOILER: If you think about it , even though gabriel is stupid He still managed to win. He only ever had three goals. Bring back his wife,fuse The 2 miraculous, and get all the miraculouses. And he managed to achieve all of these goals within the last 2 seasons
@@princeAli2.0 he didn't that woman was totally Amelie for three reason 1.- Nathalie is there so to keep balance he could only bring one person back 2.- if Adrien's mother suddenly appear then him being Monarch would be obvious and Adrien would know his secret destroying the he didn't want Adrien to know thing also ultimately destroying the message that he made peace with his mother's death 3.- Felix Is in the meeting so it's obvious that his mother would be there So Gabriel didn't won Ladybug ultimately win by bringing back his humanity
@@billykaplan9915 no, what humanity, she lost, her goal was to stop the wish being made, from the start where she learn about the wish, to the part in season 4 where she gave up on Adrien multiple times, never revealed their identities, always lied to CN, her family, her friends, she reached to her breaking points many times, only to stop monarch from making the wish and to get back the butterfly and peacock miraculous, but what she got was neither of them, butterfly is with Lila and peacock is with Felix (which I believe, the peacock miraculous itself needs him).
I think some miraculouses, such as the turtle, monkey, snake, dog and ox, are support miraculouses as opposed to front line, meaning they're designed to be used in conjunction with other miraculouses.
I think you greatly undersold the Goat’s power. I’d put it at least above the Ox. Like, does it really matter that the items it creates are all mundane everyday stuff? You can still make anything, only restricted by your imagination. “Guns” and “nukes” that you mentioned are probably the cheapest, most obvious answers. You can create shackles to restrain your opponent, you can draw up any weapon to use instead of the brush itself, you can just summon items in front of you to block hits, you can probably drop a whole-ass building on your enemy, you can create a fog to conceal yourself, a jet pack to fly around, alter the battlefield at your will and more. And the one thing it has over the Ladybug is that you can have multiple stuff at the same time. (In the final fight between Ladybug and Monarch, she summoned multiple Lucky Charms, but they were all the same item reforming itself over and over. It’s still overall better than the Goat for its plot armor qualities, but still.
The only problem with the butterfly miraculous is that you actually need butterflies to have akumas and unless you keep butterflies like Gabriel you can’t akumatise anyone. You also can’t just grab a butterfly from your stick like the peacock does with their fan. The bee miraculous is probably the best miraculous as you could freeze everyone in place and take their miraculous or whatever grants them their powers (the same could be said about the dog but you’d need great accuracy to pull it off with the dog)
The problem with the Bee is that you do need to get in very close in order to use it, so you’d need to get the jump on opponents. You can’t really even use your weapon because it seems as if the Spinning Top has to be turned into the venom so that’s out. This means that the villains could run away
1:10 Correction - Liberation did not liberate only from personality traits. We can see in the season 5 finale that Miss Eagle was able to Liberate people from gabriel Nigthmares - so it can liberate them from any mental or magic problems that holding some person back - this is actually only miraculous that we see besides ladybugs that can nullify efects of the acuma for acumatused persons without taking their powers
To be fair…, everything also depends on the holder…, some holders are much smarter than others, which is why a miraculous can seem strong when a specific person uses it and weak if another specific person uses it.
@@RelanTheMan In the hands of a villain, it would be stronger because they'd have no compunction about sneaking up on people and using it. If you don't have any telepathic resistance or iron determination, it's pretty OP. Unfortunately, most villains are connected telepathically to the Butterfly Miraculous holder. I don't think Gift would have been as effective on Reflekta had she not essentially cut herself off from Hawk Moth.
I think this season showed us that the pig,the rooster,and once again,the fox miraculous are really useful. Excellent weapon? No? a destructive power like Clout or cataclysm? no, but a power like Gift, being able to psychologically play your enemy is a powerful weapon and being able to choose different abilities, in creative hands, is a useful power. The same thing with the ilusions of the Fox Miraculous.🐷🐓🦊
It makes no sense how the Rooster can grant the power of Invisibility. He can't grant something that already belongs to another kwami, right? And how are kwamis created? They're created when a new concept is born. And what is Invisibility? That's right, a CONCEPT. You're telling me that over millions of years, there has never been a kwami associated with the concept of Invisibility? Sounds pretty weird to me, unless I'm missing something
I'm patiently waiting for the time the writers give a miraculous a power that the rooster already used so that nonsensical rule that Thomas invented because he realised how broken the rooster is gets deconfirmed lmao
Also one thing, orikko said that if he asked for creation it wouldn’t be creation cause tikki is the creation and it would be replication, and Gabriel asks for things that are wishes, MY GOD PICK THE POWER OF REPLICATION HE LITERALLY SAID THAT GABRI SMOOTH BRAIN
Personally, I think a better way to implement the rabbit miraculous would have been for it to be both more independent from the other miraculous and constrained in its situational usage. Basically, It could only be used to keep the time stream safe from anything that could threaten it; making it essentially useless in the fight against hawkmoth or anything else as that could potentially jeopardize the time stream but extremely important on its own as without the rabbit holders the time stream could get very unstable and put everyone at risk. Therefore the rabbit cannot just be used by anyone for any reason, only fluff can choose her holders and whatever she says, goes. Nobody can use her miraculous without her permission so even if someone steals it (cough, hawkmoth) they wouldn't even be able to activate it if fluff doesn't want them to and the more they try, they receive some sort of magical shock or punishment that gets worse with each attempt. Technically, this would make the rabbit miraculous a little more broken as it has more free will and authority than the other miraculous but its already broken anyway so at least this way it could only be for a specific use and have a better reason for not being used against hawkmoth. Honestly, it could even get its own spinoff that way, (Bunnx's adventures in protecting the time stream; working title, anyone got a better idea?) though so could most of the miraculous. At any rate, this power could be so much better written but its really not hard to think of ways anything in this show could be improved (I'm sure a lot of people have had similar or better ideas than this one, looking forward to finding them!). This show actually has good ideas but fails entirely at executing them in anyway that makes sense or is satisfactory at all. I'm sick of having to perform mental gymnastics in order to think of ways to make these powers more interesting and less nonsensical. That's not the fans job, its supposed to be the writers. Well, that's my rant, if anyone has any ideas about how the rabbit could be used or if they want to expand upon mine, I'd love to read them.
7:22 *Insert loud ass bawling over grieving that one time when Ladybug and Chloe worked together well and she could’ve been redeemed and you’re just overall really sad right now*
Honestly some Miraculouses that are really broken in my opinion are (not including Ladybug and Cat Noir's) Rabbit Miraculous (Time travel is pretty dangerous since they can easily rewrite history and destroy the space time continuum, there's a reason why Monarch used it first) Snake Miraculous (Friendly reminder that Miracle Queen only lost because Cat Noir combined his power with the snake Miraculous and was able to use it to not get stung. Viperion also saving Ladybug and Cat Noir from certain defeat multiple times also helps) Peacock Miraculous (Felix being able to erase everyone from existence with the power of the Red Moon is broken, Adrien and Felix themselves being sentimonsters also goes to show how powerful it is) Butterfly Miraculous (Hawk Moth created some very powerful akumas like Style Queen, Party Crasher and more) Rooster Miraculous (Being able to choose any power in the world is broken, even if it can't give powers that intefere with other miraculouses or copy these)
I have to be honest…, the pig miraculous surprised me the most in season 5…, I actually think it’s pretty underrated Its power reminds me of Scarlet Witch’s mind-manipulation power in Avengers Age of Ultron…, really effective imo.
Yeah I love the pig miraculous and the power of jubilation I mean you get to know what you most desire and I totally disagree with utterly chole about pigella's costume I mean sure it doesn't represent a pig but I think it's cute I love the mask and the boots the dress and the little swirling thing on her chest the only thing I agree with her on is the hair I really don't like rose's pixie cut I don't like pixie cuts it's an ugly hairstyle in my opinion I mean that makes you look like a boy I like her hairstyle from last school year as we see in the flashback of desrison and oh my goodness rose why would you cut that beautiful long hair? While transforming into pigella the first thing I want to change is the hair I sure hope her hair gets fixed in season 6 and yeah the only reason I'm glad Lila got that haircut is to punish her while not picking favorites by character unpopular opinion but that haircut is awful I would never want a hairstyle like that if so I would get a wig to cover it up and regardless of how many people hate her wig I like it it's long wavy I like the braids and I love the episode she gets it I like Marinette's friends in that episode rather than transmission because unlike transmission were they pretend not to see the problems with how much pain Mari is and just worried about Marinette and Adrien's love making Adrian doing all the work and they celebrate like it's going to happen they are so worried about rose they all decided to give her get well presents and yeah even though refltkta still sucks until confirmation it was a beautiful episode were we see ladybug comforting cat noir and it's one of the times she laughs at his jokes and jularose shows us a good message oh and by the way I forgot to mention I think utterly chole should have putten pigella into the e category instead of f because she does like one part of the outfit the hair saves it for her like penny bug did
The Pig Miraculous is situational. If you're dealing with an akumatized villain with a simple mind like Gigantitan, or the very unusual circumstances that happened in Guiltrip, then it can be effective. If you're dealing with a regular supervillain, they're connected to the Butterfly holder who can telepathically help them resist. Plus, while the Pig Miraculous does provide a dream fog to allow the victim to accept the dream as reality, depending on the person, they might reject it because it's too good to be true (like how very rarely, you can wake yourself up from a dream because you'll realize you are dreaming). Also, Gift was so effective in Jubilation was because Ladybug and Cat Noir wanted the same thing and were in the same spot. Imagine if you're dealing with multiple, disparate villains as in Felix, Gang of Secrets, or Crocoduel. Or worse yet, if you're dealing with a fusion supervillain that unlike Oblivio or Heart Hunter, is only unified out of mutual distrust and does not share the same dream. It's likely there's a breaking point where Gift can't keep up the mental illusion if two minds are too divergent and/or if one of the minds actually breaks out of it (like Ladybug did)
When Cat Noir cataclysms someone, in theory shouldn’t hurt THEM, it should just destroy their clothes and not harm them unless he touched their bare skin-
In that case, when bugnoir catclsmed the floor, only the size of their palm should be destroyed, it depends on the holder that till what extent cataclysm extends.
I think there's a drawback to using the Pig Miraculous with an akumatized villain; it's very likely that by being linked to the Butterfly holder, that holder can coax a villain out of the trance even if they don't have an iron will. If the villain has also protected or hidden their object, then at best you'll stall for time. And if a villain breaks out of the trance,...they're going to be madder than ever and unlike the other powers, spamming this one will have diminishing returns.
the pig is a one hit KO all you have to do is just gift them then break everything until you find their akuma Pig + Monkey is actually a good duo though
With eagle miraculous I disagree that it would be ineffective as eagle miraculous chooses what limitations the bearer can release the target from. It can affect opponents to the point where they may not even correctly focus on fighting back. And who's to say it can't also work in reverse where you can liberate them from their good qualities just to unlock their true potential of being a "waste of space" as everyone is capable of great things, but not all choose to be so.
Considering it could release those alliance ring people from their transformations, I'd be more interested if it could release a hero's transformation instead. Just force them to detransform, or eject the kwamii from the miraculous itself, rendering it inert.
@@powerpuff6872 that could work too. I mean, liberation in itself works as mind/brain manipulation in which you can completely rewrite someone's thought process into shaping them into something they could be, and you can be anyone you want. You can free a target from essentially anything and human's mind allows to do plenty of things. Perhaps the eagle can to an extent even grant abilities to targetted people or completely remove them under pretext of freedom. To me, you can really get creative with this power and what is actually stopping you are physical limitations (like you could make someone believe they're masterclass acrobat by removing their incompetence regarding it, but you couldn't make thar acrobat a superhuman and they would still be within the limit of their body)
@@powerpuff6872 considering how it was used, you should be able to release them from anything you choose, if you can free someone of morality, promises, and fear, you can certainly release them from hate, greed, corruption or insanity. Given the nature of akumatization, the eagle is an instant win, and even would force villains to give up by releasing them from their vices.
Liberation is good because you can free people from good traits, as shown in the first use of it, or you could free people of the negative feeling that got them akumatized, allowing them to deakumatize themselves.
I entirely agree of the butterfly being the strongest with unlocking its potential. We've seen the butterfly recreate similar powers from every other miraculous there,from cataclysm , time travel, even just flat out an upgrade version of that power like Evilustrator whos power is basically an upgrade to Genesis, hell you could just boost yourself to the level of Cat Blanc! someone who could destroy the entire universe!
I feel like Goat should be rated higher. Yes, you can’t make a nuke but! You can still do some pretty gnarly stuff! First off, you can make a ton of Oganesson and shield yourself using a bunch of lead. The Oganesson would instantly split causing intense nuclear fission. Or, just use something else nuclear. If you don’t want to go that path or think that nuclear fission isn’t powerful enough to beat villains there is still a ton of stuff you could make. Trap them in a ball of steel. Cover them in Napalm. Cover them in lava. Cover them in Liquid Nitrogen or whatever it takes. Even then, the Goat could be a REALLY annoying power cus you can make stuff like smoke bombs, flash bangs and other very useful items. Goat underrated
When Natalie used it when she was Safari she created all her weapons, which by the way they where pretty OP, so even if you can't create magic or similar you can still come up with awesome objects. The only limitation is the wearer's imagination
You can also create titanic in sky so it can fall on someone's head, smoke bomb to run away, Robot that looks kinda like you, ARMY of robots, Drones with lasers, Electric whip, car, titanium shield, the only limit is the rules but there is always another way when it comes to this miraculous. Goat miraculous really is GOATED... edit I forgot to mention that paint brush is great weapon just like the butterfly, it can be used similar to blach cat staff but without ability to strech
I have never cared for the monkey miraculous until Smarty pants pointed out that he had a big stick and it reminded me of Sun Wukong, so I did a bit more research and YES! The similarities are SO there! He even has the ring around his forehead like the one Tripitaka put on The monkey king to tame him in Journey to the west! I am such a geek for that story yet I never realized he was based off of Sun Wukong until now... I can't believe it. That's the only thing that I like about that miraculous. AND HIS NAME IS LITERALLY KING MONKEY AND SUN WUKONG MEANS MONKEY KING. LIKE WHAT IM SO SLOW T-T
I just had this thought, with the Monkey, if you spam it constantly, you could potentially leave your enemy 100% powerless, if it makes your power unstable, the more you use it, the more unstable it gets, correct me if I’m wrong.
Derision seems to mess with the powers specifically and messes them all up, so once seems to be enough to really defeat a opponent, however, as the power is only limited by the user, the power could be expanded upon. As derision is the concept at play, the power could be further expanded to cause additional effects that ridicule and mock the target in ways unrelated to their powers, akin to a streak of bad luck with a comedic flair, which would make it more effective when it comes to non-powered villains.
I think Ladybug's ability of Creation is what makes the Miraculous' went back to their original jewelry from being the rings in Season 5 finale, cause we see she didn't ask for help from Ms. Tsurugi's technology. Therefore she created them back with her power.
@@kennethlawag8646 no I think it also works without that. The mage who initially made the Miraculouseses centuries ago didn't have access to Tikki's powers after all since the Ladybug Miraculous didn't exist yet. Sure Tikki existed but Tikki couldn't interact with people at the time nor could she give people her powers. The Miraculous is what allows her to even have a physical form in the first place.
The thing about the Rooster is that they give themselves complicated powers to the point where the power you ask for can’t sound like a wish. You could easily give yourself powers like controlling fire, or something.
@@drkgon EXACTLY, telekinesis is so OP in miraculous universe, simply immobilize your opponent and take away their miraculous, Gabriel would instantly won if he did that, but he can't win (actually can), so we can't allow him use his brain (in movie he did that, which means only Thomas was a real obstacle for him)
I respect what you have done and how you have explained it, especially I think it is very nice that you bring forward the advantage of reality instead of the power itself of what can I best use or especially that you told what limit is with the force
With the mouse miraculous, shrink to a size your opponent can't see, sneak into their body and go back to full size, BOOM 💥 kill them by exploding their body when the don't even know it's coming
I was bout to say that the pint of the video is to be a hero and not kill anyone, but blowing up someone from the inside ant-man style is just too funny to pass up 😭
Here’s a good use for the miraculous. Unify the Goat & Rooster Miraculous. Use Genesis to summon a sketchpad & pencil, then use Sublimation to give yourself the power to write or draw anything you can imagine into existence.
This show’s power creep is so absurd especially the butterfly miraculous. Gabriel could of just granted the power to bring someone back to life to someone and bring Emilie back but no💀
From weakest to strongest : Low Tier : • Pig miraculous : Power doesn’t help that much in combat and the weapon is a tambourine. It’s kind of underrated and overrated at the same time. Still stronger than any other miraculous from other boxes though. • Dog miraculous : Having a ball as the weapon really limits you when it comes to fighting as for the power, you can fetch something useful for the fight it’s great but if you miss your target it’s over. • Mouse / Goat miraculous : Weapons are both okay and powers are good if you have an open mind about how to use them not sure which one of the two is the strongest so they can be switched. • Monkey miraculous : Overrated as fuck. What if you’re fighting someone without powers or someone who knows about the uproar ? Do you really think the enemy would just stand there and get touched by it ? I’m pretty sure that if you miss, it’s like the dog so you better be good at fighting cuz there’s nothing else except the weapon which is an actual weapon so it can be useful. Mid tier : • Turtle : Good weapon and good power but the shield isn’t that indestructible. • Fox : Except for the power, the weapon is limited, you can use it as a small staff but that’s it. Power is obviously good but more for defense cause if your opponent knows about your power you could probably be uncovered very soon. • Horse : Weapon is okay you can use it to hurt or distract people and the power can be very deadly if you have an open mind, just create a portal and summon asteroids and it’s over. • Bee : Weapon is really versatile and power is obviously great for offense. • Tiger : Weapon is good too since it’s an actual fighting weapon and the power can do a lot of damage. High tier : • Ox miraculous : Underrated. Weapon is so deadly and you might get a buff in terms of strength plus the power makes you almost invulnerable to everything including venom and cataclysm. • Dragon miraculous : No need to explain, extremely versatile and op. • Butterfly : Weapon is good same for power but the power is very flawed, if your victim snaps out or betrays you it can be a problem. • Rooster : Weapon is useless but when you have this type of op power, you don’t really need it. • Snake : Weapon is also kind of useless but messing with time is op, you just need to know how to use it properly or else you become as useless as Aspik. • Peacock : Weapon is okay for defense and the power is just ✨. • Bunny : No need to explain. • Cat : Most powerful of the box. • Ladybug : same.
dragon miraculous just god tier ngl I mean like 3 powers and if you don't use all 3 you won't detransform plus you get a sword as a weapon good for attacking plus if you turn into water you can't be hit and if you turn into wind its like ez escape lightning you can literally just strike a building and it will light on fire
@@nonplayercharacter21 Well it’s stated to be one of the two most powerful plus you can kill and destroy huge amount of things with it it’s just the fact that Cat Noir is really dumb which makes it weaker plus he destroyed her watch in the future by accident so I’d say cat>bunny but Bunnyx>Cat Noir
Even without powers the monkey will just remove the villains equipment. For eg. Dark Owl who heavily relies on gadgets, the monkey power will just destroy the objects
With meilan even she used it and it seemed to duplicate the lucky charm allowing it to cut the sash, so it was still used in conjunction with marionettes Lucky Charm Edit from farther in the video, the only limit on the butterfly is that I don't think he chooses the power, as the power is always tied to what the akumatized person wants at that moment and thus the power is chosen by the persons emotions and wants
So i actually think that most Miraculouses are limited by the "Kids show factor" if we think about something like Marvel and rank it that way, so many abilities would be immensely powerful. I also think that you might underestimate some abilities. Teleportation is quiet powerful, you can form your surroundings as you please and summon weapons or just straight up kill your enemy if you teleport them in the sun or teleport something inside the body. Fetch is a similar thing, just way nerfed, you still can summon stuff and hinder the enemy if you just fetch them around. Multiplication with size manipulation is also quite powerful, especially in support, but also combat, like manpower, equip your clones and no one stands a chance, you can also spy around your enemy without noticing, like with this ability they could have found out who Hawk Moth is in an instant, just let a clone be taken as well as the fake miraculous like in dark owl. I generally think most abilities are really good and have an really speculative potential. Like i do think the Goat could be powerful as well if you can create not just an item but a whole new surrounding area. Also thinking about it, the snakes 5 minute limitation would be gone too if the limit is gone in general. Since many future abilities are really speculative if we get rid of the limit, i only include the cat 2 times since we might have seen its future abilities. This is my ranking from top to "Bad" if we don't take Kids Show in account Rabbit ___________ Line separates God tier from Top tier (Cat if we have Chat Blank abilities and/or general control) Peacock (It just is a superb Fox and Rooster combination) Ladybug Snake (It is a nerfed Rabbit but still super powerful) Rooster Mouse Horse (Cat if we don't have Chat Blank abilities and/or general control) ___________ Line separates Top tier from Good Tiger Butterfly (This depends on how this would play out strong and super powered allies would be on par with the Mouse) Dragon Turtle ___________ Line separates Good and Mid Fox Dog Bee (a better Pig) ___________ Line separates Mid to Bad/ great supporters Eagle (thou it is a hard counter against the Butterfly doing evil) Pig Ox Monkey Goat
Ok but hear me out: -> Rooster -> Telekinesis power -> Pull Miraculous/Akuma object/Amok object -> instant win Or or or get this -> Rooster -> Time stop (or slowing down) -> Take object -> instant win Or or or even -> Rooster -> Plot armor power -> Enemy is defenseless -> instant win Rooster is way more powerful than y’all think, and if we remove the family friendly: -> Rooster -> Power of explosion -> Threaten to start WWIII -> Enemy is forced to give up -> instant win
I think the goat is really good. As we see in safari she gets her crossbow, her tablet and her whip from the goat, yes she also had other powers but a crossbow without powers is still a good weapon and shows you can make weapons. Also the high tech tablet that works to track down enemies. Plus a ultra strong whip. And this was all in one go, she just had to draw a rectangle, you don’t have to be specific or accurate with drawing at all. Even with the set back of it not being magical, it is still incredibly good and personally be the one I would pick if I had to choose a miraculous.
And you can make stuff based on the situation, it is one of the most versatile ones, literally only held back by your imagination. Also with the point that it only makes not magical items, has the lucky charm ever been magical? (This is a genuine question, I don’t remember it being magical) a lot of people use that point against it, but I don’t think it’s that much of a setback considering lucky charms also aren’t (from what I remember) magical and they always save the day. This isn’t me saying genesis is as good as lucky charm or anything it’s not as lucky charm is an object that will help and basically ensures the win if you use it correctly. But I’m just pointing out that the items not being magic isn’t necessarily a big setback
Btw I’m talking specifically about the lucky charm power, I know the ladybug can create magic charms that she gives out after the person is de akumatised. I don’t remember a lucky charm that was magic, if there is one, please tell me and which episode. So I can watch it because I either missed the ep or don’t remember so I’d be nice to watch it
Man went too far with the rooster, "If you hear my voice you will fall into a permanent coma" or "If you lay eyes on me you will do non stop vomiting and diarrhea" Remember not to let this guy get the Rooster Miraculous.
I just thought about something involving the Peacock Miraculous. We've seen with stuff like the Banana throwing Monkey that the Sentimonsters can create stuff if that's part of their power. So would'nt it mean that you could make a sentimonster that just throws Nukes?
Smarty Pants your Miraculous videos in general are always a wonderful delight. Honestly the Dragon (Longg) and Black Cat (Plagg) powers are my favorite. Yes, I adore Adrigami but that's NOT the the reasons why. 😹😹😹😹 Your thumbnail, with all the Paris heroes. I see Cat Noir and Ryuko close together, so LOVE that unintentional cuteness. Everyone have blessed Tuesday July 25, 2023 at 10:06AM. 🌸🔥🌸🔥🌸
Honestly the Dogs 🐕 power should be to say Fech, then tell the ball what to bring to you. It wood be so much better. It could probably still happen in the show
I think the dog’s weapon, the ball, would be wayyyyyy more useful if it was on a string and could be spun around like the ladybug yo-yo, bee spinning top, tiger’s bolas and ealge’s…. Thing I don’t know how to spell.
It would be way too similar then. I think it would be more effective if the ball is a lot heavier than it looks and always hits its target then returns via miraculous magic.
Or another option,other way to give the dog a weapon,the dog miraculous weapon could be a Boomerang or a disc,and the ball only appears when You want activate the power.
I have been waiting for this video. Finally. Also can you do a season 5 only overall review before or after Action. Also season 5 villain ranks please since they have the miraculous powers.
In ep 7 of season 5 passion safari creates a set of weapons and a bunch of miraculous powers that all actually work. So maybe goat can create magical stuff and it should be higher on the list
I noticed that you say "you can instantly use (power) again" quite a lot (i heard you say it for the cat and turtle miraculous), but that's not the case. Gabriel can only spam the shield because he's an ADULT, kids need to recharge (5 minutes or detransform) before they can use their power again, but there ARE two Miraculous that are an exception, the snake and the bunny miraculous, because the snake can go back to the time that the user activated their power, going back in time means reseting the cooldown, the bunny miraculous can travel through time, so you can't really tell if you are gonna use it, will use it, or already have used it.
Guys on careful thought The Cat Miraculous is probably the hardest to control,ONE small misstep or mistake could have dire consequances. Mari and Zoe had it for a short while and Adrien had it FAR longer. Adrien,the gentle soul,must always be careful not to slip up so noone get hurt or dies,NY special traumatised him good...and than Gabriel gave that nightmare... Yeah.
The goat is so useful if you think of it as similar to Green lantern. Imagine creating a large object and it drops on your opponent? Plus if you’re an adult and can use it a ton of times. Could come in handy in different scenarios
1:32 hold on, that idea could prorbably get explored: a snetimonster freed from his amok and become his/her/its own thing. most likely not canon but I feel it has a potential as fanfiction.
Just to answer what the most powerful miraculous is just remember who miraculous's strongest villain and thats your answer. Chat blanc if he realy wanted to he could destroy everything in a few seconds and now that Adrien (chat noir) can use his power with no limits just like chat blanc but without the mega cataclysm.
he but in those episodes the villain had a power that was already given to them he is only talking about n the miraculous power and how they would be used in a 1v1 situation
I wished that Gabriel would have come back in a way because... ok, part of me is glad that he won, but another part of me feels like that was too easy of an ending for him, so I would like it if he came back. But that is never going to happen. Also, I think that it would have been really cool if Gabriel lost everything and became this Lex Luthor type of villain in Miraculous where he is on some, "If I couldn't defeat Ladybug as Hawkmoth or Monarch, then I will defeat Ladybug as Gabriel Agrest!" Type of stuff. And Gabriel uses his wealth, connections, and influence to his advantage, like maybe he becomes mayor, or governor, or even president, and he wages a one-man-war against all of the miraculous holders in the world like he takes away funding and resources for businesses making the businesses suffer, and taking away their homes, and messing with the school system so the kids can't go to college and he just destroys their futures and livelihoods, like he buys over Marinette's parents' bakery, he kicks them out, and he sets it on fire to where Marinette's family loses everything and they never recover, and he just does more damage as Gabriel than he ever did as Hawkmoth or Monarch proving that without any miraculous Gabriel is still powerful in his own right. That is what I wish would happen, but that is never going to happen.
Mundane objects can be strong. And they can be versatile if spammed. Like a Taser, or a sleep dart, or a Bus, or a plane, or a jet, or a big net, or a tank, or an Ironman suit (ok now I'm overdoing it a little). But seriously, you can do so many things. A bridge, or a space shuttle, or liquid Helium, or a cloud of narcotic gas... or a robot with artificial intelligence that is a genius, or whatever else...
I think Roaster miraculous is the best because you can owe every power you can think, you just can make power of improve to improve and extend your power, you can get power of creating miraculouses and create new ones, or of breaking these miraculouses so you can do whatever you want. So it can just replace each miraculous by having one, and even more. The true power of this is just using you fantasy.
This video makes me think (AND SEASON 5 SPOILER TO ANYONE WHO MIGHT LOOK AT THIS COMMENT) that I would have really liked to have seen Lilia take one of the miraculouses from the bottom of this list and just show us a new, more menacing way to use it that Marinette hadn't realized was even possible because all this time she had been studying from just one book that Fu happened to escape with when he fled from his temple 200 years ago. For one, it would be nice just to see Nooroo catch a break, and see how his power could even work on the good guys' team. But it also would have allowed one of these lesser appericated miraculouses to shine.
I think some of the miraculous would be higher because it is canon that the only limit is that, that the user puts on himself. Like the bee, im pretty sure it’s theoretically possible to shot the venom so the list would change a bit but not much.
the dog miraculous would be useful in a day to day setting, like i left my phone at home i just call it and now its in my hands. i also like the dog miraculous power cause its accurate to the animal
Still waiting for the true last akumatized tier list. This would be the last bc Lila may do something much different when she gets her chance and maybe less useless villains under her control.
Something I’ve always wondered is why were the miraculous made? What’s their original intended purpose? Obviously in the show we see marinette and Adrian (and the occasional other heroes) use their miraculous to stop akumas from the user of the butterfly miraculous, but even that miraculous (butterfly) was meant to be used for good, just like any of the other ones, so the question remains unanswered.
So I have to disagree cause the peacock miraculous is the most broken of them all, cause you can create and control any being with any ability you want, and it is even more broken than the rooster cause i can create sentibeings with the same powers as any other kwamis (like the sentibeing of ladybug), also i can have full control of my creations not like the butterfly's one which only have parcial control on the akumatized. Also i could create a being that boost my powers and allows me to create as many creatures that i want. The eagle in my opinion has a little more potential, cause it seems that it can free people from mind control,or the influence of other powers. (In my opinion it may be the key to heal from the effects of a broken miraculous)
Yes, I will create a being and then that being will create another being and that another being will create another while I'll be possessing all the amoks, remember, Argos, CN and ryuko are all sentibeings only, but only Felix managed to get his hands on the peacock miraculous cause he is smart and intelligent and was aware of the truth and he had the support of his mother.
How is the ox higher than the ladybug. The ladybug allows you to create anything. The ox only portects from magic attacks. If you punch, throw or hit (with an object) the ox holder then the protection has literally no effect (you can see that in the final battle in the show). The ox power is extremely situational. It doesn't make you immune to all attacks.
It powers up your allies, so it’s good in a team situation. Correct Felix is smart. The paint brush is a giant staff. It protects you from magic abilities. The horseshoe is a boomerang. The tambourine is a boomerang, Make the akumitized villain feel good deakumatizing them, or the senti monster, they are made to fulfill a desire. The snake is good in a team situation. It’s a flute staff. It’s been said that all MIRACULOUSES are limited to the imagination of the user. And it tells you how to use it. You need a negative emotion to be akumatized.
Actually you do not need a negative emotion to akumatize someone. It can be any emotion, but Gabe specifically creates akumas that seek out negative emotions. Because he's a villain and it's easier to get someone to do what you tell them to if they're at a low point. It's much harder to manipulate a happy or confident person.
Thomas Astruc casually trying to explain how the rooster miraculous a miraculous that can choose a power isn't broken
lol
I mean he said once that Miraculous created more new unique powers than the entire industry has in 3 decades so I'm not suprised
I think that if the series abandon the idea of nerfing everyone do Marinette is the only one who can shine, all the powers would have the potential to be broken too
Me trying to comprehend why gabe did just akumatized himself and give him the ability to revive people or timetravel
Thomas literally had the rooster kwami and Gabriel talk about it and the rooster can’t copy miraculous powers. Only the butterfly and peacock can copy powers and Gabriel won’t use the butterfly to time travel because he is worried about ladybug and cat noir making the connection between him and monarch I guess
To be fair: with the snake miraculous it doesnt have to be 5 minutes anymore if you're an adult. You just set the temporal marker and can go back after any time as long as you havent detransformed
Yeah, I think that Gabriel did it in Intuition, there's no way it was all 5 minutes
@@katsunAC nah, he used frieza time.
(how many viewers are old enough to remember this one?)
@@MechaEmperor7000 I mean that from Marinette being in a classroom, them stopping a meteor, Bugfighter being akumatized and Cosmobug being caught is way more than 5 minutes bro. He was constantly going back in time from Cosmobug being caught to them being in classroom again, I doubt it would all happen in 5 minutes lmao
@@MechaEmperor7000I feel like a lot of DB fans know that regardless
@@katsunAC Yeah, Frieza Time. It's from Dragon Ball Z where Frieza said he caused the planet they were fighting on to detonate in 5 minutes and proceed to drag out the fight over several episodes. It's particularly egregious because he, at several points, holds a conversation with Goku that lasts longer than 5 minutes. They tried explaining this as them all behaving ultra-fast in the original dub, so we weren't watching it in real time (this was an issue for several reasons).
In the Kai Compilation they offered a much more sensible reason: Frieza was just bad at math. He even subconsciously go "wait, it should have blown up by now. did I underestimate it again?" imply that this happens quite frequently with him.
I think it's been clearly shown that it's not about what miraculous you have, it's about how you use it. Every single power can be in the God tier just by using it correctly. Felix probably is the best example of this argument
As the user is the one setting the limits, this is especially true. Since each power has a concept, they should be able to expand on them like ladybug did, as long as it is in line with their concept. I imagine the Dog, being adoration would not only allow one to retrieve an object the ball has touched, but possibly bring the user to the object touched or the ball itself. If that were the case you have a quick step teleport ability that amps up it’s ability.
To be fair the peacock is genuinely a broken no pum intended miraculous like let's be real no matter how strong and limitless i would be as a holder i can just not picture the pig miraculous or the ox miraculous being anything more than a distraction or a defensive resistance
@@den1m0ut55 That all depends on you’re understanding of the concepts. Determination for instance, resistance allows you to be immune to other superpowers which is a great defense, but expanding on the concept to the next level of power, determination is the resolute pursuit of one’s goals, given the bill and the baseline, the next step is clearly invulnerability to physical attacks as well, and it is easy to turn this into a further the ability to become unstoppable, think Juggernaut from the comics.
The pig essentially all about positivity, jubilation being the feeling of happiness or triumph. As gift gives people a reason to be happy, the next level would likely be adding to gift’s potential content. While able to show people their greatest desire, they could also heal and revivify the target, or contain ‘party favors’ in the form of extra effects themed after celebratory themes, giving gift some offensive capability, exploding glitter bomb anyone? Tangle the villain up in a eruption of streamers? Or fill them with fire works and point them at your enemy. You’ve already distracted them so they are an easy target.
Felix got extremely lucky with a power affecting how mari acts, looking like someone else, and being in just the right place (behind ladybug)
The dog alone is useless. It was only good for stealing miraculouses which actually are
Let's not forget about the secondary powers. The cat miraculous also has night vision and the ladybug has magic good luck. Secondary powers could be a good way to buff some of the weaker miraculouses.
Ladybug's Lucky charm is her main power, not secondary
Since Ladybug has the power of good luck, Cat's enemies should automatically be struck by bad luck while they fight him.
@@meduzsazsa8490 Her secondary power is her creation ability, like the charms. That being said they really need to do more with those
I don't remember A SINGLE time those secondary abilities were shown in the show. Missed opportunity tbh
@@wellidontknow1941 Cat Noir had a night vision in one episode, Ladybug's "magic good luck" is just her usual power(Lucky charm), it's not secondary, it's her main power
Completely underrated the eagle. The power is freedom from ‘anything you choose’ not just what is holding them back. This is a lot more powerful especially against Akuma, because “I free you from your hatred” is an immediate defeat of any akumatized villain, and honestly applies to any villain, because you can free them of the thing motivating them to commit crime “I free you from your greed, I free you from your insanity, I free you from your apathy”. Sure, it could also be used to buff an Allie, but don’t underestimate what it is capable of, because it is essentially altering the way people think, which is super powerful if you think about it.
The goat, while not as powerful as the ladybug, should also not be underestimated, because while you can’t make anything magical, you can still create anything you can think of, and as shown, distance and size doesn’t matter. That means you can put this giant akumas in a cage, want to knock them out? Sleeping gas, you can create any gadget you can think of, sure it’s not magical, but considering in this world they created super AI, super rockets, and a robot police force not powered by magic, this opens the door for tons of powerful abilities for anyone with a good imagination. Or heck, put it in the hands of a chemist and you have a full metal alchemist without the equivalent exchange.
"Eagle can free them from their hatred" that would work if the person has a desire to do so. Some people r very good in minuplating their feelings (like Lila in revelation pointed her hatred towards marinette and monarch couldn't realize that while her plan was to take him down). She can free them from that only if they want to. If u will use them on somebody who doesn't wish to get their negative emotions off, they will develop it again because they choose to. What I mean to say that there r some people who wants to do something that is wrong but at the same time they consciously know that they shouldn't do that because it's not good. In this situation they want to get off from those thing and here eagle can help, but it won't work if they don't feel that what is is wrong.
@@BabitaKumari-hk9ci this doesn’t seem to be the case, as when used the villain could free people from promises, moral codes, etc which they would never violate otherwise. If it could just be resisted by the hero saying ‘no, I don’t want to let loose and destroy the world with the strength I process because I don’t want to do that’ they would have. Clearly it has no issue making people acting the opposite of what they would be removing the virtuous characteristics they possess, so the opposite would be true by removing the negative characteristics.
@@BabitaKumari-hk9ci you made a slightly valid point however she frees them from whatever they feel. Yes they could try to get that emotion back but emotions don’t come and go that easily and hawk moth(or whatever his name is like his 100th name or something) only acumatized strong negative emotions doubt there emotions will be that strong after everything unless it a situation like chloe. After people where acumatized they forget what happened and while being clueless on what situation their in they’ll most likely have a hard time get their negative emotions back yea they can break out of it but that’s not the case is it?
@@BabitaKumari-hk9cibut just as a temporary solution would be enough to detach them from the moth thing (I forgot what it is called) and turn them back to human
@@Derp1est as we have seen, the emotion is what ultimately ties the person to the akuma, any time the negative emotion goes away, the akuma cannot work on them, and an akumatized villain can reject an akuma by letting go of the negative feeling. The Eagle is a shortcut to that, and you could even argue they don’t even need to target the emotion as they can target the akuma itself as it is holding them back from being their best self.
One year later and I still stand by this:
“I personally would say that the butterfly miraculous has gotten weaker, especially since season 4, because more and more people are able to just de-akumatize themselfs (Alya, Nino, Sabine, Chloe) or even resist the akumatization in the first place (Chloe, Felix).
The power of the peacock miraculous is basically a combination of all other miraculouses! You don't even need a second person in order to have a strong partner on your side! Sentimonsters are the only objects/living beings that can't be destroyed or weakend by a cataclysm!
Even if your opponent manages to steal the object with the amok in it, you still can destroy the sentimonster, so that your opponent can't use your own sentimonster against you!
If you ask me, the peacock miraculous is the strongest miraculous and I don't think that it is going to change any time soon!
For people who think that the rabbit miraculous is the strongest:
With the peacock miraculous you can literally create a Bunnyx-Sentimonster!“
I might actually agree with this.🤔
But you can akumatize yourself and give yourself any power you want.
I still disagree. To resist the akumatization you need a pretty strong will. And you can akumatize yourself with the power of any other miraculous aswell. And if you really want to mess with the person you can just put the akuma in an object and destroy it or hide it, meaning you don't lose your power. If you hide the object with the amok, you can't control the sentimonster. And you can give yourself Bunnix's powers with the butterfly miraculous aswell..
Yess! Someone who understands me, thank you 😭
Very true and we might also actually see the butterfly miraculous in the hands of a child/teen so we might see what the word to activate the special power might be and and how they transform back. I wanna see that
Let's not forget that while Gabe needed a help to become the Scarlett Moth (or whatever tf he was called) to send out multiple Akumas; it was established in the origins episode that Akumas can multiply so he could just summon one, let it cook for a bit, then send out an army.
The writers have this habit of abandoning plot points like that. Season 5 and we’re still waiting for the 4 other power up potion effects.
A better idea is to send one villain and then use the negative energy from what they do to send another immediately. And then another, and another and another. It’s that simple, just keep the conveyor belt moving. You can beat one villain, and multiple at once, but can you beat an endless line of villains?
@@DaltonIzHere the power of the butterfly was broken to begin with, as it originally made an army of akuma, something they dropped for any future instances of getting the butterfly back. Honestly the writers are not go at applying the powers to begin with, and seem to just do whatever sounds cool in the moment and ignore the ramifications that come later.
That’s only after an akuma affected someone, but wasn’t purified.
@@Thewaterspirit57 and yet it has still never been touched on again, despite being a instant army. How hard is it to Akumatize Natalie, break the akuma out, and generate an army? No, that is so simple that the ‘mastermind’ can’t possibly think of it. Just like ‘hide the akumatized object’ is so difficult a concept to grasp he can only think of it once.
The dog really impressed me this season, using it to summon weapons or a large object to drop on some one, but it’s a street level power not an avengers level power. The dog and goat are just super watered down versions of the lady bug.
Remember, the miraculous are capable of more since the power is limited by the user. If you think of the concepts and how they could apply technically that should be possible. Thus if Fetch is about adoration, could you not also ‘fetch’ yourself to the ball turning it into a short range teleport? Or fetch to an object touched to teleport to a villains lair? Both are within the lines of logic presented.
Passion technically is more powerful since it paints imagination into reality, sure it cannot create magic, but if you can draw anything, any size or distance and have it be real, you can manipulate a battlefield from on top of a building.
Felix is just smarter then anyone in the show so that’s only cause he has it
I feel like the Goat and Ladybug powers are pretty different in terms of how they're used. They both create something, but the Goat allows you to create anything you can think of, while the Ladybug creates something for you.
The Goat is more about creativity, while the Ladybug is more about strategy.
I think the horse is actually really dangerous. You could open a portal to make water, lava, or other dangerous substances into the battlefield. Maybe you could open a small portal into your enemies body and make them bleed out.
I also think the monkey is really good because you could just mess up someone’s power.
Also, knowing on the show’s insistence of keeping the butterfly as the main villain miraculous, do you have any other ideas for new villains. I think it would be cool to see the ghosts of past miraculous holders.
You wanna win with the horse? Create a portal to space. They'll get sucked right in by the vacuum and all you have to do is close it.
@@powerpuff6872 In fairness, if you're a superhero, as the video suggests, you don't want to do that. You want to defeat the enemy without killing them. If anything, Hawk Moth was lucky that Cat Noir had become Snake Noir or else Miracle Queen would have rendered him permanently unable to achieve his goal.
Honestly I don’t think the hose can do micro portals as the initial size is that of a hand, and it opens to slow to allow spatial slicing. Even then it doesn’t seem to allow things to pass through if you did something like that, as Pegasus opened a portal into a coin filled safe and nothing fell back trough, the portal seems to at the very least stabilize travel since it doesn’t create a vacuum when it creates portals in space. Given the power is based on migration, it makes sense it is oriented more to the act of travel rather than cutting through things. Of course. Given it is only limited by the user though, those ideas may not be off the table.
If you think about it, the show works as well with the powers on the other side
2 villains, one with the power of destruction and one who can always summon a relevant object and fix all the mess they made
On the other side we have one hero who needs to fight them both so they will grant powers to one of their friends that is going through some hard time and they will snatch the miraculouses out of them.
The Ladybug vilain can remove the akumatized hero's power so they will have to be very careful
In this scenario the villains are people who just want to cause chaos and have a different plan to terrorize Paris every day
Honestly, every miraculous is powerful if the user is smart enough. It’s like the powers are only as strong as the users so if you had the pig or dog and you could use them correctly, they’d be broken
I love that the power balance in this show equates to a playground game with children who just keep ramping up their invincibility just so they don't lose.
Well I got dinosaur who eats force-field dogs
Also, with further evidence of the pig’s power it’s shown to be the polar opposite to the eagle. While the Eagle frees you from mental blocks, the pig traps you in your inner mental wish/Desire.
it’d be cool if they started introducing more Miraculous based off mythical creatures like a Phoenix, Pegasus, Hydra, Kraken, Minotaur, etc. and have them be generally way more powerful than the average ones. It’d probably be better if they gave these miraculous to antagonists to up the stakes, but just having them in general would be cool imo
Greek miraculous box?
Great idea, but it wouldn't really make any sense for them to be more powerful since su han stated that the main miracle box is the most powerful miracle box ever created known as the mother box holding the strongest kwamis
A Medusa miraculous would be fun to see!
I could see a chimera miraculous working by copying the powers of 3 others, with the catch that they either have double the strength at the cost of a halved timelimit, or that they can be switched out, but only after being used 3 times each. You could also combine the 3 abilities of said miraculous into a new ability, but said power would tire the user quickly after 4 uses.
I wonder what Max's name would be if he combined the horse and pegasus miraculous.
@@princeAli2.0well is that in total? If so just have them not be a set and rather regional ones created in the same area. So each one has no relation to the others. Because I thought just having the creation/destruction is what made it the most powerful collection?
A few ways I believe they could buff the cat miraculous is:
give Adrien selective destruction so he can activate his ability and choose not to immediately destroy when he touches something.
give him the ability like many other miraculous wielders to use his weapon as a part of his power and to balance it out make it more difficult to control.
add some long range options.
let him cataclysm two-handed. So when he uses up one he can immediately use the second one and ready up the used hand simultaneously or quickly together.
I like the weapon part it would be so cool if he could use cataclysm and a smash the ground with his stick and everything just crumbles
But cataclysm already is selective destruction
@kubat4925 No, I mean if he touches something with cataclysm, he can either choose not to destroy it or alternatively choose to destroy a part of it and not the entire object.
@@TheUnamedOne832 and precisely that's what he can do in Canon. He only destroyed a bit of the wall in Evillustrator when he went for the light switch and only destroyed a bit of the ground just so Antibug wouldn't get stuck instead of all 3 brawlers falling straight into the pool underneath them
@kubat4925 ok then I guess I'll have to change the description to my first idea on the ability
17:12 Actually, that power would not work due to the 'the power cannot disrupt the power of another qwami' rule. Basically Uriko cannot give you a power to deactivate a miraculous since an active miraculous is part of a qwami's magic
I feel like Orikko lied to Gabriel. Because according to him his power can't take the form of a wish, yet rooster bold gave himself the power to never miss a goal.
Then "deactivate" their nervous system😂
@@Player-oe7zu kwamis cant lie to their owner
@@rednetherbrick3178 I mean they all lied to Gabriel when he tried to find out ladybug's identity
@@rednetherbrick3178 Plagg throughout the show: Marinette can't be a Ladybug, I was asleep when Sandboy attacked, A Cat Walker is a stranger to you.
I'd be fascinated to hear how you would unify different miraculous, as an example you said about how the dogs limitation being only a single ball would restrict how often you could fetch, imagine being able to pair it with mouse, 100 mini clones, access to 100 balls each and if you tie the ball to the skipping rope you never actually lose the ball or pick it up you essentially turn it into a magical sticky hand toy.
The miraculous ones are not copied. In the form of Gabriel rings are cloned, but usually not.
If you remember Kwami Buster, the Miraculouses are not copied so only one ball for one mini clone.
I’ve always wondered if the writers wrote themselves into a corner when they established the miracle box had X amount of miraculous because they had to try and come up with more power sets than they had ideas for at the start, especially with how quickly they were churning out the new hero’s once the ball got rolling.
Miraculous has a massive power scale problem and cross over with some power sets and I genuinely think that it is a result of them not having planned out that many supporting heros. With as popular as the MCU’s ensemble films got I think a few people have run away with the idea of an extended superhero cast without realising you need to set up the foundation and ground work before you can effectively use a large hero group
18:38 if that's really what limits this power then Gabriel really is a total smooth brain. He could have acumatized himself with a power to bring back people to life or heal anyone with just a touch (also a byisness opirtunity to become a millionere if you ask me) but he didn't even try. We know he can acumatize himself so why not?
But then again, we are talking about Gabriel. Sometimes he has summed IQ of a fish and a brick.
That's exactly what show that he was greedy he never want only his family man wanted a world on his own images
He could've akumatized himself while wearing the rooster miraculous and removed it's limitation where it can't time travel.
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If you think about it , even though gabriel is stupid He still managed to win. He only ever had three goals. Bring back his wife,fuse The 2 miraculous, and get all the miraculouses. And he managed to achieve all of these goals within the last 2 seasons
@@princeAli2.0 he didn't that woman was totally Amelie for three reason
1.- Nathalie is there so to keep balance he could only bring one person back
2.- if Adrien's mother suddenly appear then him being Monarch would be obvious and Adrien would know his secret destroying the he didn't want Adrien to know thing also ultimately destroying the message that he made peace with his mother's death
3.- Felix Is in the meeting so it's obvious that his mother would be there
So Gabriel didn't won Ladybug ultimately win by bringing back his humanity
@@billykaplan9915 no, what humanity, she lost, her goal was to stop the wish being made, from the start where she learn about the wish, to the part in season 4 where she gave up on Adrien multiple times, never revealed their identities, always lied to CN, her family, her friends, she reached to her breaking points many times, only to stop monarch from making the wish and to get back the butterfly and peacock miraculous, but what she got was neither of them, butterfly is with Lila and peacock is with Felix (which I believe, the peacock miraculous itself needs him).
I think some miraculouses, such as the turtle, monkey, snake, dog and ox, are support miraculouses as opposed to front line, meaning they're designed to be used in conjunction with other miraculouses.
I think you greatly undersold the Goat’s power. I’d put it at least above the Ox. Like, does it really matter that the items it creates are all mundane everyday stuff? You can still make anything, only restricted by your imagination. “Guns” and “nukes” that you mentioned are probably the cheapest, most obvious answers. You can create shackles to restrain your opponent, you can draw up any weapon to use instead of the brush itself, you can just summon items in front of you to block hits, you can probably drop a whole-ass building on your enemy, you can create a fog to conceal yourself, a jet pack to fly around, alter the battlefield at your will and more.
And the one thing it has over the Ladybug is that you can have multiple stuff at the same time. (In the final fight between Ladybug and Monarch, she summoned multiple Lucky Charms, but they were all the same item reforming itself over and over. It’s still overall better than the Goat for its plot armor qualities, but still.
At this point I think only superman or any magical user maybe spiderman could beat the ladybug power
And where was it shown that a Goat can create several items at the same time?
@@МастерДаркнес well unlike the lucky charm it don't need the item to do it you just need to use the paintbrush to do if
@@billykaplan9915 no, nothing can. Monarbug lost with Tikki's power of lucky charm activated.
The only problem with the butterfly miraculous is that you actually need butterflies to have akumas and unless you keep butterflies like Gabriel you can’t akumatise anyone. You also can’t just grab a butterfly from your stick like the peacock does with their fan.
The bee miraculous is probably the best miraculous as you could freeze everyone in place and take their miraculous or whatever grants them their powers (the same could be said about the dog but you’d need great accuracy to pull it off with the dog)
I feel like we'll see another way to akumatized that don't need keeping butterflies with Lila
The problem with the Bee is that you do need to get in very close in order to use it, so you’d need to get the jump on opponents. You can’t really even use your weapon because it seems as if the Spinning Top has to be turned into the venom so that’s out. This means that the villains could run away
I seem to recall him bringing a (pre formed) akuma out of the staff once, I think he just keeps the butterflies for the dramatics
@@puddles3564 its because he akumatised a butterfly and kept it in his staff as he didn’t have any other access to butterflies as he wasn’ in his home
@@puddles3564 but still there must be a way to do akumatization with less drama
1:10 Correction - Liberation did not liberate only from personality traits. We can see in the season 5 finale that Miss Eagle was able to Liberate people from gabriel Nigthmares - so it can liberate them from any mental or magic problems that holding some person back - this is actually only miraculous that we see besides ladybugs that can nullify efects of the acuma for acumatused persons without taking their powers
Don’t forget the pig!
so can it cure depression? or rid people of mental disorders that would harm the public?
Yes@@pumbhax
turtle + ox miraculous combo = super op, like how it can instantly trap someone and negate all powers, dunno how anyone is meant to escape
To be fair…, everything also depends on the holder…, some holders are much smarter than others, which is why a miraculous can seem strong when a specific person uses it and weak if another specific person uses it.
Yeah, like how Jubilation made the Pig Miraculous’s power extremely strong
@@RelanTheMan Explains how "perfect" Marinette is so underpowered considering her miraculous.
@@RelanTheMan In the hands of a villain, it would be stronger because they'd have no compunction about sneaking up on people and using it. If you don't have any telepathic resistance or iron determination, it's pretty OP.
Unfortunately, most villains are connected telepathically to the Butterfly Miraculous holder. I don't think Gift would have been as effective on Reflekta had she not essentially cut herself off from Hawk Moth.
Marinette would be useless with eagle miraculous bfr. While the holder matters at times, some miraculous are js terrible
I think this season showed us that the pig,the rooster,and once again,the fox miraculous are really useful. Excellent weapon? No? a destructive power like Clout or cataclysm? no, but a power like Gift, being able to psychologically play your enemy is a powerful weapon and being able to choose different abilities, in creative hands, is a useful power.
The same thing with the ilusions of the Fox Miraculous.🐷🐓🦊
when you brought up getting wacked by a skipping rope I actually felt the pain of elementary years recess.
Lol me too😅
It makes no sense how the Rooster can grant the power of Invisibility. He can't grant something that already belongs to another kwami, right? And how are kwamis created? They're created when a new concept is born. And what is Invisibility? That's right, a CONCEPT. You're telling me that over millions of years, there has never been a kwami associated with the concept of Invisibility? Sounds pretty weird to me, unless I'm missing something
Yeah and he was able to multiply objects.. That's basically the mouse's power. I feel like Orikko lied to Gabriel
What animal would u put with that
I'm patiently waiting for the time the writers give a miraculous a power that the rooster already used so that nonsensical rule that Thomas invented because he realised how broken the rooster is gets deconfirmed lmao
Also one thing, orikko said that if he asked for creation it wouldn’t be creation cause tikki is the creation and it would be replication, and Gabriel asks for things that are wishes, MY GOD PICK THE POWER OF REPLICATION HE LITERALLY SAID THAT GABRI SMOOTH BRAIN
I think he can't give you a power of his own box like probably another box kwami's power is ok but yeah the rooster is done badly
Shock of all shocker, a bunch of the miraculous seem weak as hell is because Gabe is smooth brained and the heroes have ungodly plot armor
Personally, I think a better way to implement the rabbit miraculous would have been for it to be both more independent from the other miraculous and constrained in its situational usage. Basically, It could only be used to keep the time stream safe from anything that could threaten it; making it essentially useless in the fight against hawkmoth or anything else as that could potentially jeopardize the time stream but extremely important on its own as without the rabbit holders the time stream could get very unstable and put everyone at risk. Therefore the rabbit cannot just be used by anyone for any reason, only fluff can choose her holders and whatever she says, goes. Nobody can use her miraculous without her permission so even if someone steals it (cough, hawkmoth) they wouldn't even be able to activate it if fluff doesn't want them to and the more they try, they receive some sort of magical shock or punishment that gets worse with each attempt. Technically, this would make the rabbit miraculous a little more broken as it has more free will and authority than the other miraculous but its already broken anyway so at least this way it could only be for a specific use and have a better reason for not being used against hawkmoth. Honestly, it could even get its own spinoff that way, (Bunnx's adventures in protecting the time stream; working title, anyone got a better idea?) though so could most of the miraculous. At any rate, this power could be so much better written but its really not hard to think of ways anything in this show could be improved (I'm sure a lot of people have had similar or better ideas than this one, looking forward to finding them!). This show actually has good ideas but fails entirely at executing them in anyway that makes sense or is satisfactory at all. I'm sick of having to perform mental gymnastics in order to think of ways to make these powers more interesting and less nonsensical. That's not the fans job, its supposed to be the writers. Well, that's my rant, if anyone has any ideas about how the rabbit could be used or if they want to expand upon mine, I'd love to read them.
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7:22 *Insert loud ass bawling over grieving that one time when Ladybug and Chloe worked together well and she could’ve been redeemed and you’re just overall really sad right now*
Honestly some Miraculouses that are really broken in my opinion are (not including Ladybug and Cat Noir's)
Rabbit Miraculous (Time travel is pretty dangerous since they can easily rewrite history and destroy the space time continuum, there's a reason why Monarch used it first)
Snake Miraculous (Friendly reminder that Miracle Queen only lost because Cat Noir combined his power with the snake Miraculous and was able to use it to not get stung. Viperion also saving Ladybug and Cat Noir from certain defeat multiple times also helps)
Peacock Miraculous (Felix being able to erase everyone from existence with the power of the Red Moon is broken, Adrien and Felix themselves being sentimonsters also goes to show how powerful it is)
Butterfly Miraculous (Hawk Moth created some very powerful akumas like Style Queen, Party Crasher and more)
Rooster Miraculous (Being able to choose any power in the world is broken, even if it can't give powers that intefere with other miraculouses or copy these)
I have to be honest…, the pig miraculous surprised me the most in season 5…, I actually think it’s pretty underrated
Its power reminds me of Scarlet Witch’s mind-manipulation power in Avengers Age of Ultron…, really effective imo.
Yeah I love the pig miraculous and the power of jubilation I mean you get to know what you most desire and I totally disagree with utterly chole about pigella's costume I mean sure it doesn't represent a pig but I think it's cute I love the mask and the boots the dress and the little swirling thing on her chest the only thing I agree with her on is the hair I really don't like rose's pixie cut I don't like pixie cuts it's an ugly hairstyle in my opinion I mean that makes you look like a boy I like her hairstyle from last school year as we see in the flashback of desrison and oh my goodness rose why would you cut that beautiful long hair? While transforming into pigella the first thing I want to change is the hair I sure hope her hair gets fixed in season 6 and yeah the only reason I'm glad Lila got that haircut is to punish her while not picking favorites by character unpopular opinion but that haircut is awful I would never want a hairstyle like that if so I would get a wig to cover it up and regardless of how many people hate her wig I like it it's long wavy I like the braids and I love the episode she gets it I like Marinette's friends in that episode rather than transmission because unlike transmission were they pretend not to see the problems with how much pain Mari is and just worried about Marinette and Adrien's love making Adrian doing all the work and they celebrate like it's going to happen they are so worried about rose they all decided to give her get well presents and yeah even though refltkta still sucks until confirmation it was a beautiful episode were we see ladybug comforting cat noir and it's one of the times she laughs at his jokes and jularose shows us a good message oh and by the way I forgot to mention I think utterly chole should have putten pigella into the e category instead of f because she does like one part of the outfit the hair saves it for her like penny bug did
The Pig Miraculous is situational. If you're dealing with an akumatized villain with a simple mind like Gigantitan, or the very unusual circumstances that happened in Guiltrip, then it can be effective.
If you're dealing with a regular supervillain, they're connected to the Butterfly holder who can telepathically help them resist. Plus, while the Pig Miraculous does provide a dream fog to allow the victim to accept the dream as reality, depending on the person, they might reject it because it's too good to be true (like how very rarely, you can wake yourself up from a dream because you'll realize you are dreaming).
Also, Gift was so effective in Jubilation was because Ladybug and Cat Noir wanted the same thing and were in the same spot. Imagine if you're dealing with multiple, disparate villains as in Felix, Gang of Secrets, or Crocoduel. Or worse yet, if you're dealing with a fusion supervillain that unlike Oblivio or Heart Hunter, is only unified out of mutual distrust and does not share the same dream. It's likely there's a breaking point where Gift can't keep up the mental illusion if two minds are too divergent and/or if one of the minds actually breaks out of it (like Ladybug did)
THANKS FOR MAKING THIS!
A ranking video is always a fun one😄
Smarty pants just a few days ago I saw your season 4 and season 3 miraculous ranked videos. So glad you made it again. Thanks
When Cat Noir cataclysms someone, in theory shouldn’t hurt THEM, it should just destroy their clothes and not harm them unless he touched their bare skin-
Yes. But all across superhero media writers tend to ignore clothes and treat them as a part of a person's body. It's dumb but that's the case
In that case, when bugnoir catclsmed the floor, only the size of their palm should be destroyed, it depends on the holder that till what extent cataclysm extends.
I think there's a drawback to using the Pig Miraculous with an akumatized villain; it's very likely that by being linked to the Butterfly holder, that holder can coax a villain out of the trance even if they don't have an iron will. If the villain has also protected or hidden their object, then at best you'll stall for time. And if a villain breaks out of the trance,...they're going to be madder than ever and unlike the other powers, spamming this one will have diminishing returns.
the pig is a one hit KO
all you have to do is just gift them
then break everything until you find their akuma
Pig + Monkey is actually a good duo though
With eagle miraculous I disagree that it would be ineffective as eagle miraculous chooses what limitations the bearer can release the target from. It can affect opponents to the point where they may not even correctly focus on fighting back. And who's to say it can't also work in reverse where you can liberate them from their good qualities just to unlock their true potential of being a "waste of space" as everyone is capable of great things, but not all choose to be so.
Considering it could release those alliance ring people from their transformations, I'd be more interested if it could release a hero's transformation instead. Just force them to detransform, or eject the kwamii from the miraculous itself, rendering it inert.
@@powerpuff6872 that could work too.
I mean, liberation in itself works as mind/brain manipulation in which you can completely rewrite someone's thought process into shaping them into something they could be, and you can be anyone you want. You can free a target from essentially anything and human's mind allows to do plenty of things. Perhaps the eagle can to an extent even grant abilities to targetted people or completely remove them under pretext of freedom. To me, you can really get creative with this power and what is actually stopping you are physical limitations (like you could make someone believe they're masterclass acrobat by removing their incompetence regarding it, but you couldn't make thar acrobat a superhuman and they would still be within the limit of their body)
@@powerpuff6872 considering how it was used, you should be able to release them from anything you choose, if you can free someone of morality, promises, and fear, you can certainly release them from hate, greed, corruption or insanity. Given the nature of akumatization, the eagle is an instant win, and even would force villains to give up by releasing them from their vices.
Liberation is good because you can free people from good traits, as shown in the first use of it, or you could free people of the negative feeling that got them akumatized, allowing them to deakumatize themselves.
Interesting review. Looking forward to the ranking of the season 5 villains
I entirely agree of the butterfly being the strongest with unlocking its potential.
We've seen the butterfly recreate similar powers from every other miraculous there,from cataclysm , time travel, even just flat out an upgrade version of that power like Evilustrator whos power is basically an upgrade to Genesis, hell you could just boost yourself to the level of Cat Blanc! someone who could destroy the entire universe!
I feel like the unification between the bee and the horse will be so op because now u can ambush someone and paralyzed them in a instant
Agree,would be totally Op.I have another fusion,Dog and horse,would be very useful
I feel like Goat should be rated higher. Yes, you can’t make a nuke but! You can still do some pretty gnarly stuff! First off, you can make a ton of Oganesson and shield yourself using a bunch of lead. The Oganesson would instantly split causing intense nuclear fission. Or, just use something else nuclear. If you don’t want to go that path or think that nuclear fission isn’t powerful enough to beat villains there is still a ton of stuff you could make. Trap them in a ball of steel. Cover them in Napalm. Cover them in lava. Cover them in Liquid Nitrogen or whatever it takes. Even then, the Goat could be a REALLY annoying power cus you can make stuff like smoke bombs, flash bangs and other very useful items. Goat underrated
When Natalie used it when she was Safari she created all her weapons, which by the way they where pretty OP, so even if you can't create magic or similar you can still come up with awesome objects. The only limitation is the wearer's imagination
You can also create titanic in sky so it can fall on someone's head, smoke bomb to run away, Robot that looks kinda like you, ARMY of robots, Drones with lasers, Electric whip, car, titanium shield, the only limit is the rules but there is always another way when it comes to this miraculous. Goat miraculous really is GOATED...
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I forgot to mention that paint brush is great weapon just like the butterfly, it can be used similar to blach cat staff but without ability to strech
@@wlwl2161Goat miraculous in the hands of the right person is a situational advantage. Strategise right, and the fight is yours to win.
I have never cared for the monkey miraculous until Smarty pants pointed out that he had a big stick and it reminded me of Sun Wukong, so I did a bit more research and YES! The similarities are SO there! He even has the ring around his forehead like the one Tripitaka put on The monkey king to tame him in Journey to the west! I am such a geek for that story yet I never realized he was based off of Sun Wukong until now... I can't believe it. That's the only thing that I like about that miraculous. AND HIS NAME IS LITERALLY KING MONKEY AND SUN WUKONG MEANS MONKEY KING. LIKE WHAT IM SO SLOW T-T
Hey man. Great video! I hope we can get a review on the Miraculous Awakening Movie!
I just had this thought, with the Monkey, if you spam it constantly, you could potentially leave your enemy 100% powerless, if it makes your power unstable, the more you use it, the more unstable it gets, correct me if I’m wrong.
Derision seems to mess with the powers specifically and messes them all up, so once seems to be enough to really defeat a opponent, however, as the power is only limited by the user, the power could be expanded upon. As derision is the concept at play, the power could be further expanded to cause additional effects that ridicule and mock the target in ways unrelated to their powers, akin to a streak of bad luck with a comedic flair, which would make it more effective when it comes to non-powered villains.
If the ladybug can really make LITERALLY ANYTHING and make it magic then it can technically make new miraculous
I think Ladybug's ability of Creation is what makes the Miraculous' went back to their original jewelry from being the rings in Season 5 finale, cause we see she didn't ask for help from Ms. Tsurugi's technology. Therefore she created them back with her power.
@@kennethlawag8646 no I think it also works without that. The mage who initially made the Miraculouseses centuries ago didn't have access to Tikki's powers after all since the Ladybug Miraculous didn't exist yet. Sure Tikki existed but Tikki couldn't interact with people at the time nor could she give people her powers. The Miraculous is what allows her to even have a physical form in the first place.
The thing about the Rooster is that they give themselves complicated powers to the point where the power you ask for can’t sound like a wish. You could easily give yourself powers like controlling fire, or something.
-> telekinesis
-> pull miraculous/akuma/amok out of the enemy’s reach
-> de-transformation
-> win
@@drkgon EXACTLY, telekinesis is so OP in miraculous universe, simply immobilize your opponent and take away their miraculous, Gabriel would instantly won if he did that, but he can't win (actually can), so we can't allow him use his brain (in movie he did that, which means only Thomas was a real obstacle for him)
That oppenheimer was out of pocket 💀
I respect what you have done and how you have explained it, especially I think it is very nice that you bring forward the advantage of reality instead of the power itself of what can I best use or especially that you told what limit is with the force
With the mouse miraculous, shrink to a size your opponent can't see, sneak into their body and go back to full size, BOOM 💥 kill them by exploding their body when the don't even know it's coming
I was bout to say that the pint of the video is to be a hero and not kill anyone, but blowing up someone from the inside ant-man style is just too funny to pass up 😭
Here’s a good use for the miraculous. Unify the Goat & Rooster Miraculous. Use Genesis to summon a sketchpad & pencil, then use Sublimation to give yourself the power to write or draw anything you can imagine into existence.
A very useful fusion😳👌🏼🐐🐓
Im pretty sure thats a wish and not a true power.
3:42 my headcanon is that the ball has a rope like a yo-yo so you can use it like that
14:34 genuine question- what did you do to get hit by a flute
This show’s power creep is so absurd especially the butterfly miraculous. Gabriel could of just granted the power to bring someone back to life to someone and bring Emilie back but no💀
16:28 tiger also gets the award for the best costume in the show
From weakest to strongest :
Low Tier :
• Pig miraculous : Power doesn’t help that much in combat and the weapon is a tambourine. It’s kind of underrated and overrated at the same time. Still stronger than any other miraculous from other boxes though.
• Dog miraculous : Having a ball as the weapon really limits you when it comes to fighting as for the power, you can fetch something useful for the fight it’s great but if you miss your target it’s over.
• Mouse / Goat miraculous : Weapons are both okay and powers are good if you have an open mind about how to use them not sure which one of the two is the strongest so they can be switched.
• Monkey miraculous : Overrated as fuck. What if you’re fighting someone without powers or someone who knows about the uproar ? Do you really think the enemy would just stand there and get touched by it ? I’m pretty sure that if you miss, it’s like the dog so you better be good at fighting cuz there’s nothing else except the weapon which is an actual weapon so it can be useful.
Mid tier :
• Turtle : Good weapon and good power but the shield isn’t that indestructible.
• Fox : Except for the power, the weapon is limited, you can use it as a small staff but that’s it. Power is obviously good but more for defense cause if your opponent knows about your power you could probably be uncovered very soon.
• Horse : Weapon is okay you can use it to hurt or distract people and the power can be very deadly if you have an open mind, just create a portal and summon asteroids and it’s over.
• Bee : Weapon is really versatile and power is obviously great for offense.
• Tiger : Weapon is good too since it’s an actual fighting weapon and the power can do a lot of damage.
High tier :
• Ox miraculous : Underrated. Weapon is so deadly and you might get a buff in terms of strength plus the power makes you almost invulnerable to everything including venom and cataclysm.
• Dragon miraculous : No need to explain, extremely versatile and op.
• Butterfly : Weapon is good same for power but the power is very flawed, if your victim snaps out or betrays you it can be a problem.
• Rooster : Weapon is useless but when you have this type of op power, you don’t really need it.
• Snake : Weapon is also kind of useless but messing with time is op, you just need to know how to use it properly or else you become as useless as Aspik.
• Peacock : Weapon is okay for defense and the power is just ✨.
• Bunny : No need to explain.
• Cat : Most powerful of the box.
• Ladybug : same.
dragon miraculous just god tier ngl I mean like 3 powers and if you don't use all 3 you won't detransform plus you get a sword as a weapon good for attacking plus if you turn into water you can't be hit and if you turn into wind its like ez escape lightning you can literally just strike a building and it will light on fire
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Well it’s stated to be one of the two most powerful plus you can kill and destroy huge amount of things with it it’s just the fact that Cat Noir is really dumb which makes it weaker plus he destroyed her watch in the future by accident so I’d say cat>bunny but Bunnyx>Cat Noir
Even without powers the monkey will just remove the villains equipment. For eg. Dark Owl who heavily relies on gadgets, the monkey power will just destroy the objects
With meilan even she used it and it seemed to duplicate the lucky charm allowing it to cut the sash, so it was still used in conjunction with marionettes Lucky Charm
Edit from farther in the video, the only limit on the butterfly is that I don't think he chooses the power, as the power is always tied to what the akumatized person wants at that moment and thus the power is chosen by the persons emotions and wants
So i actually think that most Miraculouses are limited by the "Kids show factor" if we think about something like Marvel and rank it that way, so many abilities would be immensely powerful.
I also think that you might underestimate some abilities.
Teleportation is quiet powerful, you can form your surroundings as you please and summon weapons or just straight up kill your enemy if you teleport them in the sun or teleport something inside the body.
Fetch is a similar thing, just way nerfed, you still can summon stuff and hinder the enemy if you just fetch them around.
Multiplication with size manipulation is also quite powerful, especially in support, but also combat, like manpower, equip your clones and no one stands a chance, you can also spy around your enemy without noticing, like with this ability they could have found out who Hawk Moth is in an instant, just let a clone be taken as well as the fake miraculous like in dark owl.
I generally think most abilities are really good and have an really speculative potential.
Like i do think the Goat could be powerful as well if you can create not just an item but a whole new surrounding area.
Also thinking about it, the snakes 5 minute limitation would be gone too if the limit is gone in general.
Since many future abilities are really speculative if we get rid of the limit, i only include the cat 2 times since we might have seen its future abilities.
This is my ranking from top to "Bad" if we don't take Kids Show in account
Rabbit
___________ Line separates God tier from Top tier
(Cat if we have Chat Blank abilities and/or general control)
Peacock (It just is a superb Fox and Rooster combination)
Ladybug
Snake (It is a nerfed Rabbit but still super powerful)
Rooster
Mouse
Horse
(Cat if we don't have Chat Blank abilities and/or general control)
___________ Line separates Top tier from Good
Tiger
Butterfly (This depends on how this would play out strong and super powered allies would be on par with the Mouse)
Dragon
Turtle
___________ Line separates Good and Mid
Fox
Dog
Bee (a better Pig)
___________ Line separates Mid to Bad/ great supporters
Eagle (thou it is a hard counter against the Butterfly doing evil)
Pig
Ox
Monkey
Goat
Ok but hear me out:
-> Rooster
-> Telekinesis power
-> Pull Miraculous/Akuma object/Amok object
-> instant win
Or or or get this
-> Rooster
-> Time stop (or slowing down)
-> Take object
-> instant win
Or or or even
-> Rooster
-> Plot armor power
-> Enemy is defenseless
-> instant win
Rooster is way more powerful than y’all think, and if we remove the family friendly:
-> Rooster
-> Power of explosion
-> Threaten to start WWIII
-> Enemy is forced to give up
-> instant win
I think the goat is really good. As we see in safari she gets her crossbow, her tablet and her whip from the goat, yes she also had other powers but a crossbow without powers is still a good weapon and shows you can make weapons. Also the high tech tablet that works to track down enemies. Plus a ultra strong whip. And this was all in one go, she just had to draw a rectangle, you don’t have to be specific or accurate with drawing at all. Even with the set back of it not being magical, it is still incredibly good and personally be the one I would pick if I had to choose a miraculous.
And you can make stuff based on the situation, it is one of the most versatile ones, literally only held back by your imagination. Also with the point that it only makes not magical items, has the lucky charm ever been magical? (This is a genuine question, I don’t remember it being magical) a lot of people use that point against it, but I don’t think it’s that much of a setback considering lucky charms also aren’t (from what I remember) magical and they always save the day. This isn’t me saying genesis is as good as lucky charm or anything it’s not as lucky charm is an object that will help and basically ensures the win if you use it correctly. But I’m just pointing out that the items not being magic isn’t necessarily a big setback
Btw I’m talking specifically about the lucky charm power, I know the ladybug can create magic charms that she gives out after the person is de akumatised. I don’t remember a lucky charm that was magic, if there is one, please tell me and which episode. So I can watch it because I either missed the ep or don’t remember so I’d be nice to watch it
Man went too far with the rooster, "If you hear my voice you will fall into a permanent coma" or "If you lay eyes on me you will do non stop vomiting and diarrhea" Remember not to let this guy get the Rooster Miraculous.
I just thought about something involving the Peacock Miraculous.
We've seen with stuff like the Banana throwing Monkey that the Sentimonsters can create stuff if that's part of their power. So would'nt it mean that you could make a sentimonster that just throws Nukes?
Smarty Pants your Miraculous videos in general are always a wonderful delight. Honestly the Dragon (Longg) and Black Cat (Plagg) powers are my favorite. Yes, I adore Adrigami but that's NOT the the reasons why. 😹😹😹😹
Your thumbnail, with all the Paris heroes. I see Cat Noir and Ryuko close together, so LOVE that unintentional cuteness.
Everyone have blessed Tuesday July 25, 2023 at 10:06AM. 🌸🔥🌸🔥🌸
adrigami shipper, high five 🙌 my friends
"I choose the power to grant wishes"
"I choose the power to become a god"
Most broken miraculous
I’ve been waiting for this one the peacock is one of my favorites
Honestly the Dogs 🐕 power should be to say Fech, then tell the ball what to bring to you.
It wood be so much better.
It could probably still happen in the show
I think the dog’s weapon, the ball, would be wayyyyyy more useful if it was on a string and could be spun around like the ladybug yo-yo, bee spinning top, tiger’s bolas and ealge’s…. Thing I don’t know how to spell.
It would be way too similar then. I think it would be more effective if the ball is a lot heavier than it looks and always hits its target then returns via miraculous magic.
@@Markus2E5I6it should give the user hawk eye or green arrow aimbot. That way when thrown it's chances of hitting the target is 99%
Or another option,other way to give the dog a weapon,the dog miraculous weapon could be a Boomerang or a disc,and the ball only appears when You want activate the power.
@@Mystik459 bone boomerang?
@@rossjones8656 Yup🦴
YAYY I was wishing for this, an updated list
Smarty pants: The goat is useless
Me, an intellectual: black panther’s suit
Lol
The Peacock miraculous is even better when you realize that fan fighting is an actual martial arts technique
I have been waiting for this video. Finally. Also can you do a season 5 only overall review before or after Action. Also season 5 villain ranks please since they have the miraculous powers.
Nah I’d love it if Nathan created a gun or bomb to fight a villain 😂
In ep 7 of season 5 passion safari creates a set of weapons and a bunch of miraculous powers that all actually work. So maybe goat can create magical stuff and it should be higher on the list
The goat can create mundane objects to CONDUCT Magic,like safari did
I do kinda like how it seems like the powers are balanced around ulimited uses since thats the intended use case
Yay I was waiting for the season 5 edition
I'm gonna blame Felix being able to take down multiple akumas in civilian form on the fact that he's a sentimonster 😭
????? Explain again what u meant. He's a sentibeing.
I noticed that you say "you can instantly use (power) again" quite a lot (i heard you say it for the cat and turtle miraculous), but that's not the case. Gabriel can only spam the shield because he's an ADULT, kids need to recharge (5 minutes or detransform) before they can use their power again, but there ARE two Miraculous that are an exception, the snake and the bunny miraculous, because the snake can go back to the time that the user activated their power, going back in time means reseting the cooldown, the bunny miraculous can travel through time, so you can't really tell if you are gonna use it, will use it, or already have used it.
Umm, at the beginning he said he's taking these miraculous at there strongest and can use there power over and over.
Guys on careful thought The Cat Miraculous is probably the hardest to control,ONE small misstep or mistake could have dire consequances. Mari and Zoe had it for a short while and Adrien had it FAR longer. Adrien,the gentle soul,must always be careful not to slip up so noone get hurt or dies,NY special traumatised him good...and than Gabriel gave that nightmare... Yeah.
The goat is so useful if you think of it as similar to Green lantern. Imagine creating a large object and it drops on your opponent? Plus if you’re an adult and can use it a ton of times. Could come in handy in different scenarios
True, you could give yourself an actual sword, axe, or crossbow and as long as the object is not magical, the weapon will be useful.
Imagine using the Eagle and Butterfly powers on a Ladybug, girl would be creating multiverses
1:32 hold on, that idea could prorbably get explored: a snetimonster freed from his amok and become his/her/its own thing. most likely not canon but I feel it has a potential as fanfiction.
yeah like for example the sentimonster is freed from being controlled
Just to answer what the most powerful miraculous is just remember who miraculous's strongest villain and thats your answer. Chat blanc if he realy wanted to he could destroy everything in a few seconds and now that Adrien (chat noir) can use his power with no limits just like chat blanc but without the mega cataclysm.
It would be interesting to rank miraculous powers if they were used for evil. Probably changes a lot of the ranking
did u for get the episode adoration and passion!
he but in those episodes the villain had a power that was already given to them he is only talking about n the miraculous power and how they would be used in a 1v1 situation
Just thought if the eagle miraculous could fee senti monsters form there control right
Another weakness of the bee is that you lose your weapon when it's active
I am so happy Argos turned into a superhero🎉 my favorite one is Miss hound because I love dogs❤
I wished that Gabriel would have come back in a way because... ok, part of me is glad that he won, but another part of me feels like that was too easy of an ending for him, so I would like it if he came back. But that is never going to happen.
Also, I think that it would have been really cool if Gabriel lost everything and became this Lex Luthor type of villain in Miraculous where he is on some, "If I couldn't defeat Ladybug as Hawkmoth or Monarch, then I will defeat Ladybug as Gabriel Agrest!" Type of stuff. And Gabriel uses his wealth, connections, and influence to his advantage, like maybe he becomes mayor, or governor, or even president, and he wages a one-man-war against all of the miraculous holders in the world like he takes away funding and resources for businesses making the businesses suffer, and taking away their homes, and messing with the school system so the kids can't go to college and he just destroys their futures and livelihoods, like he buys over Marinette's parents' bakery, he kicks them out, and he sets it on fire to where Marinette's family loses everything and they never recover, and he just does more damage as Gabriel than he ever did as Hawkmoth or Monarch proving that without any miraculous Gabriel is still powerful in his own right. That is what I wish would happen, but that is never going to happen.
Fire, u think so in a kid's show😒😒😒
Mundane objects can be strong. And they can be versatile if spammed. Like a Taser, or a sleep dart, or a Bus, or a plane, or a jet, or a big net, or a tank, or an Ironman suit (ok now I'm overdoing it a little). But seriously, you can do so many things. A bridge, or a space shuttle, or liquid Helium, or a cloud of narcotic gas... or a robot with artificial intelligence that is a genius, or whatever else...
I think Roaster miraculous is the best because you can owe every power you can think, you just can make power of improve to improve and extend your power, you can get power of creating miraculouses and create new ones, or of breaking these miraculouses so you can do whatever you want. So it can just replace each miraculous by having one, and even more. The true power of this is just using you fantasy.
This video makes me think (AND SEASON 5 SPOILER TO ANYONE WHO MIGHT LOOK AT THIS COMMENT) that I would have really liked to have seen Lilia take one of the miraculouses from the bottom of this list and just show us a new, more menacing way to use it that Marinette hadn't realized was even possible because all this time she had been studying from just one book that Fu happened to escape with when he fled from his temple 200 years ago. For one, it would be nice just to see Nooroo catch a break, and see how his power could even work on the good guys' team. But it also would have allowed one of these lesser appericated miraculouses to shine.
I think some of the miraculous would be higher because it is canon that the only limit is that, that the user puts on himself. Like the bee, im pretty sure it’s theoretically possible to shot the venom so the list would change a bit but not much.
Can you rank miraculous charecter
Please
the dog miraculous would be useful in a day to day setting, like i left my phone at home i just call it and now its in my hands. i also like the dog miraculous power cause its accurate to the animal
Still waiting for the true last akumatized tier list. This would be the last bc Lila may do something much different when she gets her chance and maybe less useless villains under her control.
Something I’ve always wondered is why were the miraculous made? What’s their original intended purpose? Obviously in the show we see marinette and Adrian (and the occasional other heroes) use their miraculous to stop akumas from the user of the butterfly miraculous, but even that miraculous (butterfly) was meant to be used for good, just like any of the other ones, so the question remains unanswered.
Origins said it was for the greatest good , long time ago.
So I have to disagree cause the peacock miraculous is the most broken of them all, cause you can create and control any being with any ability you want, and it is even more broken than the rooster cause i can create sentibeings with the same powers as any other kwamis (like the sentibeing of ladybug), also i can have full control of my creations not like the butterfly's one which only have parcial control on the akumatized. Also i could create a being that boost my powers and allows me to create as many creatures that i want.
The eagle in my opinion has a little more potential, cause it seems that it can free people from mind control,or the influence of other powers. (In my opinion it may be the key to heal from the effects of a broken miraculous)
Yes, I will create a being and then that being will create another being and that another being will create another while I'll be possessing all the amoks, remember, Argos, CN and ryuko are all sentibeings only, but only Felix managed to get his hands on the peacock miraculous cause he is smart and intelligent and was aware of the truth and he had the support of his mother.
The cat miraculous power would definitely be stronger if a villain would use it...
I wonder if miraculous ladybug would do something like Steven universe future did for the next season
My personal ranking
1) Rabbit
2) Snake
3) Black cat
4) Ox
5) Rooster
6) Butterfly
7) Peacock
8) Ladybug
9) Goat
10) Turtle
11) Bee
12) Horse
13) Fox
14) Monkey
15) Dragon
16) Mouse
17) Dog
18) Pig
@BugNoir394Best to least.
u forgot the tiger
@@CopyMyProfileCopy the tiger would come after the black cat
How is the ox higher than the ladybug. The ladybug allows you to create anything. The ox only portects from magic attacks. If you punch, throw or hit (with an object) the ox holder then the protection has literally no effect (you can see that in the final battle in the show). The ox power is extremely situational. It doesn't make you immune to all attacks.
It powers up your allies, so it’s good in a team situation. Correct Felix is smart. The paint brush is a giant staff. It protects you from magic abilities. The horseshoe is a boomerang. The tambourine is a boomerang, Make the akumitized villain feel good deakumatizing them, or the senti monster, they are made to fulfill a desire. The snake is good in a team situation. It’s a flute staff. It’s been said that all MIRACULOUSES are limited to the imagination of the user. And it tells you how to use it. You need a negative emotion to be akumatized.
Actually you do not need a negative emotion to akumatize someone. It can be any emotion, but Gabe specifically creates akumas that seek out negative emotions. Because he's a villain and it's easier to get someone to do what you tell them to if they're at a low point. It's much harder to manipulate a happy or confident person.
And on the team part, yes. But you’re screwed in 1v1 which is what this video is mainly focusing on
@@dabest8777 I was just letting him know.