I had 35s on my 2024 ZR2 [sold for Raptor] with zero rubbing nor issues. Run fire trails out here on the CA/NV border. You are correct that I couldn’t fit a matching spare under the bed. I bought synch straps & anchored my spare in the bed. An alternative is to simply run a 33” spare; simply can’t run it up front & would have to do a 3-way swap if you get a flat front tire. 👍🏻
@krasnaludek298 yep and 90% of tire problems can be fixed with a plug kit. So probably be OK and if a side wall cut happens like you said put the 33 on the back
Personally, a ZR2 would be just right. It would be nice to have 35's, but personally, I'd not be willing to lose the ability to have a tonneau cover. It's just too important to have that for hunting trips.
For me, if I was to get a out of the box truck and don't plan on changing it....ZR2 Bison all the way. But I know me so I'd opt for the cheaper ZR2 without Bison package and add my own parts and outfit it my way. The standard ZR2 can fit 35s and I wouldn't feel and about spending money to change something already on the truck. There's few trucks out there I wouldn't change, the Bison is one of them. A Recon equipped gladiator or wrangler is another
Great video J...i have the Bison and the At4x non AEV. I bought the Bison basically for a writeoff and i think its the most capable badass truck in midsize market. That being said I love driving the At4X as a daily driver and the Bison is a blast to drive and ive used it for some moderate rock crawling as well. Only complaint for Bison is mileage 13.4mpg and Spare tire location. Like you said your not buying a Bison for mileage.
Test drove both before I bought my ZR2. With no intent on buying bison wouldn't pay the extra money. Love the look And extras of the bison but couldn't justify the extra cost. Mines almost 2 months old 1,800 miles and it just started making bad clunking sound at low speeds from steering or suspension. Dealer can't find anything wrong has anyone else had this issue. Was fine Saturday Sunday was very cold that's when noise started and hasn't gone away. Dealer said they test drove a.new one on lot and it makes same noises. NOT HAPPY!
I got the zr2 non bison. I probably will get the gm accessories jounce bump stops which include a half inch lift. all the brackets are pre welded on the 24 model year easy install. thank you gm for making it easy. I dont need the bumpers. when I need tires that is, then ill go with a 34 x 11.5 on the same rims. ill get a total of 1 inch more clearance instead of the 1.5 inch the bison gives. AEV sells all the skid plates now except the one that is integrated into the bumper. fraction of the cost. not quite the same as the bison but close enough of my needs
Another great video. 👍. Jason I'm not sure if you saw this video on TH-cam or not but there's a channel called Tire Tech. They talk about the five reasons not to buy a 2024 Chevy Silverado and wait for the 2025 model. I watched the video and they're doing more upgrades for the 2025 version. The video is called. Five reasons you should wait for 2025 Chevrolet Silverado Silverado (Don't Buy I found it pretty informative. Have a good holiday. 🌲
don't forget the bison has smaller fenders up front. that info wasn't easily found. if you look closely the back side of the wheel well has 1-1/2 inches trimmed to give more room. might help your decision between the two. plus its all warranted.
@@Jason-Samko great videos Jason. I did hear you talk about the flares being different on it, but I didn't hear you say anything about the actual fenders. If you did my mistake. I cant remember where I read it but the actual fender that the flare attaches to is different from the factory. (1.5 inches trimmed on back side). if you were to do a build of both on the gm build site you can actually see the smaller gap between the door and flare on the bison. thats to me is a huge deal. that is if you want to get 35's on there with a little less lift. I wish it was just the different flare. no way am I going to replace the fenders or do any trimming. you are right. the 34's are plenty.
@@Jason-Samko I found that out after I got the non bison zr2. if I had known it might have changed my mind. the cost, spare tire and payload are still a big criteria to get past. thanks for all your videos. very enjoyable
I’m not a Chevy guy but this is one nice looking mid size. Best looking over all the others in IMO. Question, what is the towing rating on this truck Jason. Max towing?
6000 lbs on base zr2. bison drops to 5500. the payload drops by I think 250 pound. I had a 21 raptor with payload of 1145 because of the rear softer coil suspension. my 24' zr2 colorado has 1240. the bison drops a bit below 1000. thats a problem to me. 4 - 200 lb adults in there only leaves 200 lbs for gear. not good
agree. maybe to at least try to justify the extra cost for the gmc. more pricey for sure. pretty much the same truck. maybe a bit more refined exterior. if its the bison vs the the at4x then. there is definitely a trade off you don't get the jounce bump stops on the canyon with the AEV upgrade. its an option. but they do put the power distribution / aux switch panel in there. might be good trade off but still a cheaper standard option for more money.
correct just 12 mm (1/2 inch). front coil and rear spring spacers that come with the hydraulic jounce bump stops that actually come with the kit you can buy from gm accessories. $2795 from gm. the other 1 comes from the tire size increase like Jason was talking about in the video
Love your videos, Jason you are the hardest working man on TH-cam!!
Thank you
I had 35s on my 2024 ZR2 [sold for Raptor] with zero rubbing nor issues. Run fire trails out here on the CA/NV border. You are correct that I couldn’t fit a matching spare under the bed. I bought synch straps & anchored my spare in the bed. An alternative is to simply run a 33” spare; simply can’t run it up front & would have to do a 3-way swap if you get a flat front tire.
👍🏻
@krasnaludek298 yep and 90% of tire problems can be fixed with a plug kit. So probably be OK and if a side wall cut happens like you said put the 33 on the back
Purchased a 2024 ZR2 Colorado today. Followed your advice on TH-cam. Got a great deal. I'm grateful !!
Outstanding. Congratulations on an amazing truck and live thst you got a great deal too!
Great video. The ZR2 is the way to go, very few need 35s and to sacrifice the bed space is not worth it!
I feel the same
Love the ZR2! Beast of a mid-size truck. Best looking mid-size truck, in my opinion.
Agree on all points you made
Great video. I commented in one of your previous videos about your thoughts on the Bison. I think I am going to get a ZR2 Bison for my next truck.
The bison is straight up amazing
Personally, a ZR2 would be just right. It would be nice to have 35's, but personally, I'd not be willing to lose the ability to have a tonneau cover. It's just too important to have that for hunting trips.
Agree chevy needs to figure out how to stuff the 35 under the truck
With a bed that small I’d opt for a cap over a tonneau cover anyways. Bison for the extra bad assness
For me, if I was to get a out of the box truck and don't plan on changing it....ZR2 Bison all the way.
But I know me so I'd opt for the cheaper ZR2 without Bison package and add my own parts and outfit it my way. The standard ZR2 can fit 35s and I wouldn't feel and about spending money to change something already on the truck.
There's few trucks out there I wouldn't change, the Bison is one of them. A Recon equipped gladiator or wrangler is another
Yep amazing trucks...every truck you mentioned
33" spare? (just to get you out of trouble) i would not run a tire in the bed!
Spare is the same tire as the rest of thr ones on the truck
Great video J...i have the Bison and the At4x non AEV. I bought the Bison basically for a writeoff and i think its the most capable badass truck in midsize market. That being said I love driving the At4X as a daily driver and the Bison is a blast to drive and ive used it for some moderate rock crawling as well. Only complaint for Bison is mileage 13.4mpg and Spare tire location. Like you said your not buying a Bison for mileage.
Outstanding. And that's great to have both and give true insider info comparing them. Thank you
Your the man J
Merry Christmas bud
@aaronbutler3585 merry Christmas
for the tire you could get a hitch mount tire carrier. but that is a pain because of the tailgate. big pain if you are in and out of the back alot
Very true on both points. And the suspension change with that much weight hanging on the back between the tire and the carrier
Test drove both before I bought my ZR2. With no intent on buying bison wouldn't pay the extra money. Love the look And extras of the bison but couldn't justify the extra cost. Mines almost 2 months old 1,800 miles and it just started making bad clunking sound at low speeds from steering or suspension. Dealer can't find anything wrong has anyone else had this issue. Was fine Saturday Sunday was very cold that's when noise started and hasn't gone away. Dealer said they test drove a.new one on lot and it makes same noises. NOT HAPPY!
I got the zr2 non bison. I probably will get the gm accessories jounce bump stops which include a half inch lift. all the brackets are pre welded on the 24 model year easy install. thank you gm for making it easy. I dont need the bumpers. when I need tires that is, then ill go with a 34 x 11.5 on the same rims. ill get a total of 1 inch more clearance instead of the 1.5 inch the bison gives. AEV sells all the skid plates now except the one that is integrated into the bumper. fraction of the cost. not quite the same as the bison but close enough of my needs
Good plan
Another great video. 👍. Jason I'm not sure if you saw this video on TH-cam or not but there's a channel called Tire Tech. They talk about the five reasons not to buy a 2024 Chevy Silverado and wait for the 2025 model. I watched the video and they're doing more upgrades for the 2025 version. The video is called.
Five reasons you should wait for 2025 Chevrolet Silverado Silverado (Don't Buy
I found it pretty informative. Have a good holiday. 🌲
Thanks will check it out
Cant fit a 35" on a zr2. The most important can fit on the gladiator is a 37" underneath. 😅
don't forget the bison has smaller fenders up front. that info wasn't easily found. if you look closely the back side of the wheel well has 1-1/2 inches trimmed to give more room. might help your decision between the two. plus its all warranted.
Yep said that in the video. The bison had different fender flares
@@Jason-Samko great videos Jason. I did hear you talk about the flares being different on it, but I didn't hear you say anything about the actual fenders. If you did my mistake. I cant remember where I read it but the actual fender that the flare attaches to is different from the factory. (1.5 inches trimmed on back side). if you were to do a build of both on the gm build site you can actually see the smaller gap between the door and flare on the bison. thats to me is a huge deal. that is if you want to get 35's on there with a little less lift. I wish it was just the different flare. no way am I going to replace the fenders or do any trimming. you are right. the 34's are plenty.
@russkohler8105 i did not know the actual quarter panel was different
@@Jason-Samko I found that out after I got the non bison zr2. if I had known it might have changed my mind. the cost, spare tire and payload are still a big criteria to get past. thanks for all your videos. very enjoyable
The Bison is the baddest looking truck on the market but cant justify the $12-15k upcharge.
Agree it's the sexiest truck made today. The 35s make it look mean and tough
I have to use a full bed with cover so Bison is out. Plus I didn't care for the look with 35s.
The bed space loss is the biggest issue for me
I’m not a Chevy guy but this is one nice looking mid size. Best looking over all the others in IMO. Question, what is the towing rating on this truck Jason. Max towing?
6000 lbs on base zr2. bison drops to 5500. the payload drops by I think 250 pound. I had a 21 raptor with payload of 1145 because of the rear softer coil suspension. my 24' zr2 colorado has 1240. the bison drops a bit below 1000. thats a problem to me. 4 - 200 lb adults in there only leaves 200 lbs for gear. not good
@ Ok thanks 👍
I always had a rule…you don’t put 35 inch tires on an independent front suspension.
Could definitely be an axle eater if pushed hard
You should compare the canyon at4
agree. maybe to at least try to justify the extra cost for the gmc. more pricey for sure. pretty much the same truck. maybe a bit more refined exterior. if its the bison vs the the at4x then. there is definitely a trade off you don't get the jounce bump stops on the canyon with the AEV upgrade. its an option. but they do put the power distribution / aux switch panel in there. might be good trade off but still a cheaper standard option for more money.
Zr2 compares to the at4x. The at4 compares to the trailboss. The gmc versions are dresser with more features
I liked the desert boss version of the Zr2. They don't sell it anymore, but the bull bar and the chase rack made it look so sharp.
The dessert boss was sexy
The Bison needs at least 3.73 gearing, maybe even 4.10.
Sure would be nice.
ZR2 or Bison? I will go with the Power Wagon. 😃 Just kidding. For me it’s Bison but I understand why you would choose the ZR2.
All 3 are excellent the zr2, bison and pw!
Putting all of those add ons cost $$$ ..! Chevy trucks don’t last long these days, it’s just waste of money .!!
Neither. Ranger raptor.
ZR2 all day long wouldn't Want 35 inch tires
I'd love the 35s for the extra inch of clearance and man, they sure do look sexy
@Jason-Samko yes they do look good 35 inch tires
I believe the 🦬 bison also get more of a lift than zr2 want say .5 or 1inch more ?
I think it's half inch from the heavier spring rate to carry the bumpers and extra weight
correct just 12 mm (1/2 inch). front coil and rear spring spacers that come with the hydraulic jounce bump stops that actually come with the kit you can buy from gm accessories. $2795 from gm. the other 1 comes from the tire size increase like Jason was talking about in the video