Hobby Lobby's Insane History
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00:00 intro
01:56 disclaimers
02:49 background
05:40 feed the children
07:44 antisemitism
08:30 access to contraceptive care
11:57 smuggling artifacts
20:43 covid
22:17 recent discrimination against employees
24:10 barcodes
26:38 superbowl ads
27:47 satanic panic
33:14 outro
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edited in Adobe Premiere Pro
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Hi everyone !! I recently spoke with an investigative journalist, Michael Blanding, who is writing a book about Hobby Lobby. It sounds like it'll be a really interesting and deeper dive of a lot of things I talked about in this video. They would like to speak to current and former employees of Hobby Lobby and Museum of the Bible about what it was like to work for them. Anyone with information who is interested in sharing can contact them at HobbyLobbyBook@gmail.com. All communications will be kept anonymous and confidential. For more background on the journalist, this is their website: www.michaelblanding.com.
I'm extremely interested in talking with them. Our store manager was known to LOCK associates inside of the store until resets were done. There was a night when the security system failed and I was expected to stay inside of the building until a tech arrived to fix it - it was a Saturday night so the service tech did not arrive until Monday and I was expected to stay inside of the building for the entire 36 hours and then work my Monday closing shift. I was told by a District Manager to accomplish a 10 hour task before I left for the night - he told me this at closing time and it wasn't a priority I ended up leaving at Midnight came back at 5 am and worked till close that night.
When Mrs Green had her dream David cut his managers pay by 10% and expected his salaries managers to work on the stores that were locked down by themselves cleaning and doing resets he also canceled their insurance and took away their bonuses.
The funny thing about the original hobby lobby that was founded in Lawton Oklahoma the OG store. It’s run by a bunch of Karen’s that will sit there and hold you hostage if they think you sell from the store I’ve seen a guy stripped down to his underwear by a bunch of old ladiesin the original store
i hope they sell the book at hobby lobby LMAO
I'm only 30 seconds into the video, but I just want to express my joy at the idea of a craft-related drama channel, very exciting
thanks for being here! 🥰
YESSSS TIKTOK CRAFT DRAMA IS SO PETTY BUT I LOVE IT
i'm excited too but i think there is actually no need for creating the whole new channel just for this topic.. i think creating a playlist would make more sense in that way bc it's still fits *the theme* of the main channel... (and there was already video about crochet drama on the other channel)
@@emmainthemoment I recall you mentioned wanting to create more video essay-style content in a video I was watching on your other channel and I'm glad to see you do this so well, as it is a gap in fibre arts-related content
No fr tho bc apparently there was anti choice drama in the crochet community
I mean, I feel like JoAnn has really leaned in to the goth/Wiccan/Satanist stuff to pick up the slack from Hobby Lobby.
joann’s is really leaning into the “baby witch grandma” thing and i am here for it
If Joann actually worth going to now 👀 I haven't been to one in several years
Yesss! Employees are also allowed pronoun stickers that we can put on our nametags provided by the company and is constantly partnered with organizations like Mark on My Sleeve (Children's mental health) St.Judes, Gilletes Children's hospital.
The juicy couture collab is to DIE FOR
And tons of pride yarns, fabrics and misc merchandise available all year!! Joanns is honestly pretty cool these days.
Not endorsing or admitting anything but in case anyone is curious, the store's lack of barcodes means they are comically easy to steal from.
my gf used to work at hobby lobby, as long as its under 70 dollars they don't care. if its over 70 like a sewing machine they may try to stop you, apparently thats the only time a shop lifter was stopped the entire time they worked there.
based. finally a reason to enter that hate factory.
@@ming-meiizhao1902when i was stealing shit with my friend one time and employee started following us around the store and then they called the thing on the overhead to let the employees know but we left without anyone saying anything
@@micahfoley9572 everything is incredibly cheap and on sale every other week
@@micahfoley9572Stealing from a store isn't 'based'.
"I'm sorry, you don't just accidentally snuggle 450 ancient cuneiform tablets and approximately 3000 ancient clay bullae" got a genuine chuckle out of me
I thought they were saying creme brulee
my mother got fired from hobby lobby after working for 10 years because she pointed out her coworkers racism
I do believe that is considered illegal retaliation
Your mother is a good person
There would be huge benefit from anonymous 3rd party communication of grevances (like unions do locally)
Well yeah it's not your place to point that stuff out. It's your place to work, just do your job and shut the f****** and go home
@@glitterarmy89 we'd live in an even worse world if that was everyone's attitude.
I haven't heard anything positive about employment in the USA (possibly because people are this alienated from each other and beaten down) since I was 12 and that has been a long time
I know Hobby Lobby isn't like the norm in the US or anything, but as a British person, I just can't grasp a craft store being overtly religious or conservative. Like if I walked into Hobbycraft and saw thin blue line merchandise, I would think I was being pranked.
It's the norm 😬
It's definitely not the norm for craft stores and it's the strangest thing to walk through in may and hear an instrumental Christmas song
They’re definitely a staple in the “Bible Belt” region of America
You might already know this, but Chick fil a is straight up just closed on sundays because they’re so religious
@@II-jz1zochic fil a being closed on Sundays is like, the least problematic consequence of them being a religiously backed company 🤣
I worked at hobby lobby for six months. It was always kept clean, but my manager stopped shoplifters just to pray over them. Usually it weirded them out so bad that they just left
Well maybe that is a more effective way to deal with shoplifters 😆. Threatening and yelling doesn't seem to work, because then they act like they're the victim.
Left with their pockets stuffed
That is the most hilarious thing ever. I need to try that at work sometime.
Tbf, that sounds like a fun and unique way to deal with shoplifters. Just weird them out enough so they don't wanna come back lol
I hate Hobby Lobby, but in isolation that's kinda badass lol
hobby lobby “accidentally” smuggling a million dollars worth of artifacts is like a real life scooby doo episode
I worked at Hobby Lobby for a year as a cashier.
We didn't punch in the barcode number, but the price, department and sales. Plus, everything changed sales every other week. We were tested once a month to see if we memorized the sales page well enough/basic discounts/protocol for calling managers and price checks.
I was always the best at taking the test with a 95% average, so I was often assigned to register 1, aka one of the return and sales registers, and I had to stay at the register the entire shift except for breaks. I asked numerous times to be trained in other departments during my employment, but was forced to be a cashier while my coworkers- some who were hired after me- became department heads. I quit when I asked to get my name changed on my name badge and was told no, and I was denied the yearly raise I was promised in the paperwork I signed when I was hired.
Please don't support them if you can.
But... Isn't that what the bar code is there to record 😭? I hope you're working somewhere a bit better now!
@@shadowcollector I worked there to, and there is NO RECORD. All of our stock was kept in the back but we had no idea what was in those boxes and if a customer asked for a specific item there was no way to retrieve it. Entering the price for every item was very time consuming and their inventory system is basically non existent.
@@abstractsock meanwhile every other chain store has a website that always knows exactly how many of an item the store has right now. but hobby lobby? you want that specific yarn? guess what, you gotta go and find out
That seems like way too much work. I would also assume it is way less efficient.
Also a former cashier here. I have a very similar experience. I was one of the best at remembering sale ads and rules because I had been there for 3 years. Many of my cashier coworkers were moved to work on the floor or in fabric and I was so jealous I hated being at the register. Standing at a desk for 9 hours straight with hobby lobby Karens (a whole new breed of the term Karen) yelling at you was not fun.
My grandma told me to apply at Hobby Lobby since I’m looking for a part time job and instantly told her no because they aren’t a good company and she said “They’re a good company, they’re Christian so they’re good”
💀
God Bless grandma she knows what is right
It's the exact opposite usually.
That's what they said about the Inquisitions.
@@SusanChristmas did you watch the video?
@@SusanChristmas As a fellow christian I must respectfully inform you that you are incorrect.
Former Hobby Lobby employee here. At the time I didn't know about any of the controversies related to the company, other than their refusal to allow the morning after pill to be covered by the company offered insurance (I did not have insurance through them). Let me just say if it weren't for the fact that I got an employee discount on crafting supplies I would say that this was the absolute worst job I ever worked at.
I was a part time employee and started off as a sales floor person, setting up the shelves. My first day they had me working with a full time manager in the floral department, helping them with a reset. We did an amazing job and got things done fast. This led to them giving me the ENTIRE wall of vases and pots to reset. On my own. We're talking about a corner of the store with multiple shelves (several over my head), of breakable, and frequently heavy objects. Then they got angry that it took me as long as it did. This wasn't unusual it would turn out.
I was told that it was company policy that if there was a call for backup at the registers the first ones to go up to help ring were suppose to be part time employees, not full time. This wouldn't be so bad if the company used barcodes for their products, but nope! Each individual item had to have the price entered into the cash register, then any discount percent punched in, so you had to memorize every Monday morning what all the sales in the store were. Slowing things down even more was the fact that company policy required manager approval for EVERY return, and returns could only be done on the first register. So if you had rung someone up and it was a single item, but you forgot to put the discount on it, you would have to do an overhead page for a backup cashier and for a manager to come up, look at the receipt (even when it was an obvious mistake it required manager approval), the manager to do something on the cash register, and then THEN you could adjust the price. When they updated to a register that could scan the barcodes for sewing patterns (the only thing it scanned other than coupons or receipts), I ended up learning how to operate the register better than the managers did.
So ringing people up was slow, and you got stuck at the register if you were part time, not only because you would get called up, but because getting stopped all the time meant you couldn't get your projects in the aisle down fast enough. Part time employees would be given the same amount of work to accomplish as two full time employees were expected to do. If you couldn't get that done you were removed from the sales floor and just kept on the register where in your downtime you were stuck scraping stickers off glass dividers that were chipped using loose razor blades and ammonia.
Current Hobby Lobby employee here! To qualify for the benefits you just sign up for them on the employee portal, if you're part time some benefits you dont qualify for but both full-time and part-time if they have a 401k and contribute to it at least 15% I believe they match that with 5% (again I believe). Current full time makes 18 an hour and parttime 13.
I get whiplash from typing the prices and looking at the time item so quickly due to them not having scanners. I have to focus 90% harder on being accurate than just scanning and chatting with the customer.
Edit: I am currently about to finish my two weeks and will not be working for hobby lobby. I'm only 20 and while Hobby Lobby was a good experience and my coworkers are all kind and want the best for me, I have been cussed at and I'm not allowed to stand up for myself. That's why I'm leaving plus I have a job at my college lined up already will be starting immediately after my two weeks are done.
I worked at hobby lobby as a teen and it was the most hectic, illogical, stressful job i have ever had!
Good Heavens (clutches pearls). I hope you have healed your relationship with craft supplies, and are in a much better job.❤
i worked there last year (during my second year of college) and had to quit because of all the panic attacks it caused. absolutely insane workload and customers. i have no idea how people last for years.
I always feel so bad for the employees having to ring up all my items manually. 😢all that paper work is just silly now that we have computers that can do the work
@@nikkie3193my adhd brain overrides it a bit, but same! I worked as a cashier and one of the middle managers forced me to go home early when I jokingly shared my heart rate that I’d just counted on a break
@@Phoenixhunter157you get really fast at it eventually, bc it’s not specific to any item. It was basically just entering the department. “Memorizing” the weekly ad was the hard part for me
As someone who used to work at hobby lobby I just want to say that high wage thing was only for full time employees. I started working there in July of 2021 with an hourly wage of $12 and left in July of 2022 with a wage of $13-$14. The full time employees had a wage of $18.50 by the time I left but considering how much work they made us do, we all agreed that none of us weren’t getting paid enough 😅
Yeah but you chose to leave and work somewhere else ...the market sets the wages and if nobody would work for what they were willing to pay then they would pay more otherwise their stores couldn't operate
@@denasewellyou’re really bootlicking for hobby lobby of all places?? cmon dude. these stores stay in business because there’s an endless supply of workers in the us who have to take these exploitative jobs to scrape by.
I'm pretty sure I was being paid actual minimum wage when I worked there in like 2019... "Full time" was managers only, which was like $10-11 an hour. The job sucked so much... And I started working there before they opened this location. My first shifts were helping set up the store, 10 hours for each shift too. It was not fun. Being a cashier was the worst, for both the cashiers and the customers. Their registers are like 30 years behind. And the customers argue with you constantly (at least in my experience) because they don't know how to read the signs in the store. And the managers liked to micro manage everyone. Absolutely horrible job. I do not recommend working there.
@@invaderdogour Oh my goodness I remember the customer arguments! "What do you mean this isn't on sale?! It's wood!"
"This is plastic molded and painted to look like wood."
"How am I suppose to know that?"
"It does not feel like wood, it does not sound like wood, it does not have the weight of wood, and the backside of it is an entirely different color."
I don't know what it would be called in the US, but is this a 0 hour contract thing? Where you've no set amount of hours to work at any time, your shifts are just determined at whim? I've no clue about federal or state labour laws but assume you're somehow legally precluded from their claimed hourly rate as a result... America is wild 😬.
Just a pet peeve: Hobby Lobby was not upset that they had to provide contraceptive care, they were upset that they had to allow their employees to PURCHASE contraceptive care.
Employer sponsored health care plans are (generally) not provided by the employer - the employee pays the premiums. And now, if you work at Hobby Lobby, you do not have the option to purchase healthcare coverage for contraceptive care.
Not so. My husband works for a Fortune 100 company and while the employer subsidizes the medical insurance, we are paying almost half the monthly cost. You are talking a big oil company here.
Most companies pay at least part of the employee health care premiums, so essentially HL didn't want to pay even part of contraceptives.
@@rachel3620 exactly. They could have easily just not paid the premiums for plans with contraceptions. But instead, they paid a ton of money to take it all the way to the Supreme Court.
The extra stupid parts...
Many use bc to control other hormonal conditions..like bad periods or no periods etc, if you don't have regular period higher cancer risk...no uterus then no kids.
Some can not get pregnant due to health and or meds.
Progesterone bc is also used to sustain a pregnancy w low Progesterone..its the only preventable Mc...you can still mc but just not preventable.
They are deplorable glad they aren't in canada.
Not mark btw.
? No?? No matter where you work, you can get healthcare. Contraceptive care just wouldn't be employer subsidized
I can promise you that archaeologists have endless Hobby Lobby jokes. If Hobby Lobby has no haters then all of us are dead. My friends refer to it as Robby Lobby.
😂
So much to say here 😂 But I think the "satanic panic" thing really reflects on a complete lack of critical thinking that permeates a lot of conservative social media spheres. There were SO many people out there who didn't stop to think that it may not have been real, or to genuinely try to identify where the pictures came from.
Conservative stuff is very reactionary for several years now and they love behaving like snowflakes when they are cancelling someone or a business.
and often it's conservatives talking about how great AI is and how it will somehow save the world or something. and they're the most easily fooled by it.
It's cause they can't tell fiction from reality. They believe the Bible is literal instead of like fairy tale fables and stuff. Christians and Conservatives are the stupidest people on the planet.
The funniest thing is that it’s not even Baphomet. Or anything remotely “Satanic”. Like, even if this was real, I’d walk past that and think it’s some Disney character spray painted black. Coming from a Satanist, it’s absolutely hilarious to watch people lose their minds over stars and horns and the number 6- especially when it’s not even real in the first place. Especially, especially, considering the fact that most of us don’t even believe in Satan or God or whatever.
Edit: This is even funnier after I’ve gotten to the part about the creator being a member themself LMAO.
it always baffles me that they see one post and believe that its 100% true like you don't think to go to the store yourself or even look it up online from an unbiased source. these people see one post from another conservative and take it as fact without any fact checking.
Oh my gosh oh my gosh the satanic thing is so funny to me… back in 2014 I actually bought a wooden deer head (painted white with gold dipped antlers) from hobby lobby and my v conservative uncle told my family I had a satanic goat head on my wall
That’s hilarious. I wonder What does he think about people putting taxidermy deer heads on their walls??
@@tante_kringe oh well that’s totally fine of course! (Sarcasm)
😅😂🤣😂😅
Does he have redeeming qualities?
@@draconicfeline6177conservatives never do
I've always picked up a weird, uncomfortable vibe from Hobby Lobby stores, even as a kid who didn't know any of this. Also, as a Christian, I must say that a "Christian" company that treats its employees badly is a sad mockery of the teachings of Jesus Christ. Perhaps they never read them?
as a queer christian, THIS. you cant claim to be a kind christian family company while treating your employees like this..
I’ve never stepped a foot in hobby lobby. A company that won’t allow the health insurance pay for birth control, but has no problem with paying for viagra, won’t get any of my money. I spend a lot on arts and crafts supplies. I knew about the pro-birth (not pro-life) behavior, but didn’t know about the literal smuggling of artifacts. Wondering how these things are ok in these so-called “Christian minds.”
Anti choice is also a way of describing them.
There is nothing more evangelical than cognitive dissonance 💀
My understanding us they did/do cover multiple forms of birth control, including the pill; it was just the morning after pill that they objected to because it is supposed to prevent implantation of a fertilized egg/embryo, which is abortion to those who believe that life begins at conception.
So it’s not like they did not cover any birth control.
Grow up!!!
@@stephaniew4140 what is actual morality to you? Abortion? Genocide? Voted for pedo JoeBama?
i heard about the smuggling thing, but somehow it was never mentioned that the green family OWNED A MUSEUM🤦 i don’t know what i thought they wanted that stuff for lol
Imagine them just casually opening an ancient artifacts aisle lmao
It was a museum to "prove" the young earth theory and other extreme religious beliefs
@@bbyghostie1044totally what i thought when i first heard about it, like going to hobby lobby and buying a cuneiform tablet off the shelf
I feel like the barcode thing may be so they can launder money/ evade taxes claiming “human error”
I thought the same thing, its way easier to "move inventory" with no digital records
100%
I thought it was a mark of the beast thing
I just added this same comment. I had not scrolled far enough to see yours.
The IRS needs to go after them.
Bar codes are related to the mark of the beast. The 1600 Bible says the mark will be in your forehead or in your hand. Translated to on which is incorrect. We'll, there is the Vax, now banking chips. Take your pick. The devil is real.
As a queer archaeologist hobby lobby is the final boss
When I tried to apply there the biggest questions were about what church I went to, for how long, and why I hadn’t been back in a while. Very little talk about practical work experience my crafting background or sales background.
Genuinely interesting to hear, the manager at mine told me she was “not Christian, just agreed with a lot of the store’s view.” Still a red flag but not as big
illegal
america sounds so fucking dystopian
Yeah, I was never asked this and I worked off and on 3 times with 3 different managers. So whom ever did your interview was not a good person. I was taught to lead by example, and not to judge.
I’m sorry this happened to you.
I thought this was illegal
The Hobby Lobby scandals are so big that we learn about them in art school haha! Maybe you should talk about the British Museum sometime.
if they could take the pyramids they would
@@uhaveexpired4255 I once read someone say "They don't have the pyramids in exhibit because they're too heavy" 🤣
I mean, the British museum isn’t really a place people associate with crafters…
Oh God they're so evil!
New York has a pyramid.
There's nothing quite like having a hobby lobby ad interrupt a video about hobby lobby's controversies 😂
They’re over here tryna win us back over like we were over in the first place (At least for me idk if yall shop or used to shop there)
“Craft related dramas” is such a perfect niche I didn’t know I needed filled
Hey Emma,
Licensed attorney here (but don't take this as legal advice). One of the things that a lot of the cases involving religion will deal with is the balancing act between the establishment clause and the free exercise clause. Generally, courts will err on the side of allowing free exercise in violation of the establishment clause as opposed to preventing free exercise of religion. If you ever look more into a case like this, keep that in mind as it may help with common patterns that the Supreme Court (or other courts for that matter) may come down with.
Great video, by the way.
Love how the free exercise of religion is a yes for Christian owned corporations but not for their employees. Has any other org of any other faith gotten this kind of religious exemption.
question can content creators get sued for videos like these from companies who take these videos as a threaat?
@@KnitTherapyThey can. It might not be a sure win for them, but content creators usually choose to delete videos because they don't have thousands of dollars to pay for a lawyer to compete with a large rich company.
@@draconicfeline6177temple of satanism has managed to protest enough to get some plagues up so that’s pretty cool
GIRL I have some hot tea about that museum. Like board room, internal policy, private events and political figures inside knowledge. I've talked a smidgen about it on tiktok (your local sound tech) but we shoukd definitely dish of you want that inside baseball.
message me on insta 👀 I knew there was so much about the museum that I barely even scratched the surface in this video
Me gently explaining to my extended family for the 100000000th time that as a Christian, I can’t shop at a place that denies people basic human rights & medical rights and was embroiled in a smuggling ring because that’s absolutely not what Jesus would do.
Also, FINALLY a good use of AI images 😆😆😆
Not having barcodes substantially increases human error. Every sale the cashier forgets to take into account is money in the Greens' pockets. It's about money. It's always about money. Occam's razor.
state and religion should be separated obviously, but I don't think it's discussed enough that religion and corporate should also be separated!!!!!
Scientology disagrees
vehemently.
I mean, it shouldn’t be enforced on employees, but as long as you don’t do anything harmful like chik fil a, i don’t see why it should be separated if someone’s really dedicated to the idea? The big issue is how money gives people larger voices to the wealthy than the actual majority, but that’s a capitalism problem in general
@@cantthinkofaname5046It directly paves the way for employers to take harmful action, which we know from hundreds of years of history that they will. The precedence of the 2014 lawsuit means that employers technically don’t have to follow the law if they cite ‘religious reasons’ even when those claims are clearly baseless. Now the entire legal system fails to work when it comes to enforcing labor laws because the court thought recognizing a corporate entity as if it were an individual was more important than the basic human rights of it’s workers. Just because the CEO wouldn’t personally like someone in his life taking a contraceptive doesn’t mean he should get to dictate the availability of medication for his employees. Monetizing your religion is for posers.
@@kit4616 I guess you raise a good point, but I expicitly said as long as it doesn’t affect employees.
@@cantthinkofaname5046the issue with that caveat is that if their religion is an intrinsic part of their business, then that religion inherently affects their employees (and customers). Unless all of their employees follow the founder's religion to the same letter, boundaries will inevitably be crossed. That's why church and state are SUPPOSED to be separate, regardless of how dedicated a politician is to the idea of it not being the case. You can't involve religion in something and have it affect no one.
what is absolutely hilarious to me is when I was trying to find a snake charm for my eras tour outfit, they had literal spiders but no snakes. and then it hit me.
HAHA That’s amazing!
Sinner!!! 😂
Yeah, apparently, a Karen wrote a letter and got a whole list of things removed from the stores. If you see the animal suspiciously missing, it was on that list. Imagine having that kind of power as a customer? We joke about sending in letters complaining about other things just to see what kinds of things we can get banned from the stores! 😆
*points dramatically* SINNER ALERT! SINNER ALERT!!
… And this is my sign to quit working at Hobby Lobby.
I’ve tolerated so much shit while working for the company as a trans kid- but I never got to know about the kind of controversy behind the place.
Io
i hope you're doing well 🙏 i'd like to hear an update if/when you quit
how the fuck do you not google the place you work at lmao
Any time the satanic temple gets involved I get out the popcorn, you know it's gonna be hilarious and make the people they're against look like fools
TST are actually fucking icons, they absolutely demolish the competition like cmon. So proud to be New Mexican (they have a program where you can get abortions and birth control pills here).
Gotta love the Satanic Temple 😂
The “he gets us” ads show on Reddit too they’re so annoying. Thanks for doing this ep I love dunking on hobby lobby any chance I get
i've had to help so many people install ad blockers because so many queer users were getting those ads and no matter what they did couldn't get them to stop showing.
I'm in a witchy group and those things show up ALL the time. I've muted the volume on my app and scroll past as quickly as possible. Reporting them does nothing.
The worst part is that they act all progressive and aren't
Like I wouldn't be upset if you were just up front about it.
Super irrelevant detail, but I live in Oklahoma and had to pass their corporate offices to get to work for a while. It's huge. It's like a city, it takes 5-10 minutes to drive through the several blocks of corporate offices they have set up and it's kind of horrifying. I hate it.
They have come a long way since house where my mother would go to get her art supplies she back in 1981. At that time there wasn’t a Hobby Lobby south of the red river
I worked at HL when all this was going down, and I actually had a lady call the store asking for these artifacts! She said she "collected that sort of thing", and wondered if we had any for sale-- she wanted to get the jump before the Feds came and confiscated them! 😅😶 Mind you, my location was nowhere near DC, and was an entirely normal Hobby Lobby
My daughter and I were so sad to hear about Hobby Lobby when the Affordable Care Act was passed and of course since. We love craft stores but we will NOT shop there.
My mom did the same thing 😂 we would have to drive to the other side of town to get supplies instead of going to the hobby lobby just down the street (thankfully they closed and a Micheals is opening soon 🥳)
The shoe is finally on the other foot. Liberals and the trans crowd have been forcing their agenda on all the rest of us for 40 or 50 years. Sauce for the goose. Why can't you people live and let us live too?
the no barcode thing sounds so exhausting for cashiers. i work retail and have to do backup cashiering and i would lose my mind if i had to type in all that info for every product. even having to type stuff in for the occasional product missing a tag is annoying as hell
craft/DIY drama is definitely an untapped niche (which i’ll gladly participate in!)
CONTENTTTTTT
9:24 having a belief that contraceptives are wrong or immoral or whatever is for your personal practice and the audacity to say that “we don’t want to pay for that for out employees because of our faith” is mind blowing to me.
they weren’t even being told they had to pay for them, the employees would be paying for contraceptives through their insurance’s premium. hobby lobby was upset that their employees would have ACCESS to contraceptives
I'm a retired art teacher (artist and crafter). I do NOT shop at Hobby Lobby (or Chick-fil-e). If Michael's or JoAnn's don't meet my needs, I can find it Online!😕
I have a big problem with their imports of products from China-it’s huge. How well do they check if these products are produced by slave labor? And they are apparently increasing these home decor items and closing down their art and craft sections.
When I worked for them still (within the last year) they weren’t completely tossing whole craft sections, but forcing departments to “condense” so the seasonal department (mainly has home decor type items) could expand further
@@gracel2martthe last time I was in a hobby lobby, probably close to 8 years now, half the site was already seasonal decor. How much more could they condense the crafts? 😅
@@Icarusnight567
Look at everything at Joann or Michael's and it's the same. All craft projects are coming from China. It's a problem in almost every product market in the US.
@@jenniferpearce1052 I've noticed the same. It's frustrating. I'm not interested in sending my money to the country that sent us the plague then sold us the masks we were forced to wear. Very much getting into recycled/upcycled crafting now with materials that don't have to be imported from the other side if the planet.
THANK YOU FOR COVERING THIS!
I am always shocked by how many otherwise progressive crafters have no idea about how awful hobby lobby are.
For me personally, it was their HARD push to ban their employees from access to both control that made me say hell no and look deeper into them. I need birth control for a hereditary medical thing and I was p i s s e d.
If I don't take birth control, my chronic illness flares up and makes hell on earth, I think I'd simply perish :'D
A company's religious beliefs shouldn't be forced on its employees who may not necessarily share them. Use of birth control is none of their business. Shocking.
One of my favorites actually used their yarn for a pride themed piece! 😩 I (gently) asked if they didn't know about HLs history.. they never replied but it's been 2 years and I've NEVER seen them use HL yarn or even mention them again lol
Company religious freedom does not and should not override the individuals religious freedom. It's so terrible what they do - and they don't really do it out of belief but out of a desire to exclude others so they can feel special and better than.
As of last year, when I worked at HL, they did cover birth control pills. It was the IUD that they didn't cover. But I absolutely agree with you!
I went into a Hobby Lobby once just to see what all the hub bub was about it. I didn’t like it. It was like a crafty Big Lots or Walmart with a bunch of cheap things. I didn’t purchase anything because I don’t agree with their practices and policies. I won’t go in there again. TBH I was surprised that they haven’t gone out of business here. The store had a very weird feel to it.
Right? That and the one I went to once was a mess, half empty aisles and nobody around (and I felt sorry for the few I did see) What a mess, in general. No thanks.
As someone who is part of the LGBT community and is also a crafter and a biblical scholar, I have been an avid hater of hobby lobby since before there was even a store in my town. On the other hand, I appreciate the added perspective about their apparent care for their employees. I think that this level of care should be a standard for all retail companies. I will not, however, be giving them any of my money and will continue to vocally oppose them because I’m almost positive they want me dead 😂. If anyone has any recommendations for a substitute for their “I love this Cotton” yarn, PLEASE let me know, because can’t stomach walking in and buying it at this point.
there's missing context for their employee care. they forced them to work during the pandemic even though theyre not a needed store, and the hourly wage mentioned is apparently only for full time employees. Most of the care is superficial.
RE the cotton, Joann has the K&C brand of cotton which feels very similar, but unfortunately comes in limited colorways.
Take care and have a great day. 🐞
Plus, I've been told, most of their employees are part time and don't get that income or benefits.
i always use sugar and cream for my cotton yarn. it's a bit expensive but michaels usually has them on sale a few times a year. the color choices vary from store to store but they have quite a lot of options
Premier's just cotton yarn is a very good substitute.
Love this type of content because I feel like people don’t realize how much drama is in the craft community lol
LOL
They might have good benefits until they declare they are an essential service and try to keep themselves open during a pandemic.
yep.
Or use their religious status to deny certain things for women like birth control, but give the OK on viagra for dudes.
They promised to pay employees during the pandemic when things first closed and then backed out of it
Joann stayed open because they sold supplies for making masks. Why shouldn't Hobby Lobby?
@@jenniferpearce1052 they were curbside pickup only.
I "heard from a friend" their clearance stickers move around pretty easy. They also don't really pay any attention at the register when inputting prices. My friend got a $75 wall decor item for $4.50 a couple weeks ago. Do with this info what you will;)
we aren't that dumb, I work there
@trevordoeshalloween5994 why ?
@@trevordoeshalloween5994 you sure? It’s a pretty verified source. They’ve done it many many times. And it’s worked every time. Maybe you think you’re not that dumb but I promise I could get one by you. What store you work at? I’ll come prove it.
That says more about you than them.
@@suziecreamcheese211 Thanks for your very insightful input 🥰
As a part-time cashier, the lack of barcodes sounds like a nightmare
Wow. This was a weird watch since a couple years ago my small religious school took a field trip to the Bible museum in DC. Didn’t know we were supporting smugglers.
A lot of museums are smugglers, especially The British Museum with stolen artifacts from all their former colonies all over the world and Egyptian loot.
You're supporting bigots as well.
Well, I mean to be fair practically every museum buys dodgy artifacts from "sellers."
@@Aster_Riskyeah that’s kind of implied. we watched the video too lol
idk if anybody else has mentioned this yet, but one of the strangest things I remember working at Hobby Lobby is they made us take quizzes. They were usually about the discounts, but if you got it wrong, they made you keep retaking it till you got it right. It was most likely to prevent mistakes since we had to remember EVERYTHING, but still thought it was such a strange procedure lol
I remember those! I unofficially took the cutting counter one and even trained a coworker bc I was a cashier that worked under 10hrs a week, but was also one of the few people that had worked the department (the one department lead was sick) more than once
This used to be standard for all clerks. Somewhere on youtube, there's a video of a best American grocery checkout clerk where they competes for accuracy and speed in just this kind of thing.
Most employers do that.
I live in a more rural Southern state, I'd love to be able to shop at a Joann or Michaels but they just are nowhere close meanwhile Hobby Lobby is 10 minutes away so I grew up shopping there. The past few years I've been trying to buy more from thrift/overstock stores or yarn stores online.
I have the same problem 😔 I’d LOVE to shop at Michael’s as someone who makes jewelry, their bead selection looks so cool
literally got a hobby lobby ad in the middle of this 😭😭😭💀
I had no idea I had such an interest in craft-related drama until I stumbled upon your channel and devoured your videos in one sitting. Thank you for introducing me to such a world
holy shit i didn’t know u were for craft related drama!! i’m a lover of both worlds, so glad to see great content
As someone who literally lived down the street from the Tulsa location I can say that the buildings were always in poor condition and money was never put towards proper repairs and now it just really shows
I worked at Hobby Lobby. They're a terrible company full of terrible people. One winter I slipped and fell down a set of stairs and broke my foot, and they would not let me have a chair to sit on because I did not injure myself at work. I was still showing up to work, but I had to stand on a broken foot for eight hours because I didn't hurt myself there. Have a friend whose mother worked at Hobby Lobby, and she did have a slip and fall while on the clock there. They were immediately trying to shove papers in her face to get her to sign away HL's liability in the incident. They were also all but outright threatening to fire her if she didn't sign the paperwork.
Such Christian. Much wow.
I hate when religious groups act like there's not very good reasons for women, LGBT people and other minorities to distrust religion, as if the people running hobby lobby haven't been actively working against these people's rights for decades. You can't fix that with an ad. You want LGBT people to feel welcome in Christianity, then stop trying to take away our rights.
Lgbt people are welcome in christianity as are all sinners the catch is you have to want to repent and give up those things that you do that are sinful.
@@SusanChristmas You can't just ' give up' being LGBTQ. It doesn't work like that.
I find Christianity disgusting. I dont shop at fundie businesses.
1. this is insane and goes like 20x deeper than what i expected so omg ??? and 2. off topic but the jesus campaign is so crazy and as an advertising head it's legit wild
I worked there for almost a year. I was on the first register, which meant that I had to stay there for an entire eight hour shift, with just a couple short breaks. I started to develop a constant aching pain in my left ankle because of how I had to stand to type in each product and bag it. I had to start wearing an ankle brace in and out of work. I brought this up to management and they didn’t really care. Having not worked for them for over a year now, I still get pain in that ankle from time to time.
I wanted to work full time so I could get the $18.50 pay and benefits (I was making $13 an hour), but they guard their full time positions so carefully. The decisions to make employees full time seemed motivated by favoritism.
While Hobby Lobby is not my favorite, I met a lot of wonderful coworkers there. They still mean so much to me.
I have just recently found your channels and am so thankful that I have. Your succinct way of speaking, wonderful grasp of vocabulary, and the amount of research that you perform is very appreciated. I am a crafter (fiber arts, cross stitch, and diamond painting) and can totally relate to craft community drama. I’m looking forward to more more more of everything and anything that you plan to share with us. Thank you so much! Here for it!!!!
Love that you're making a craft drama channel! There's so much to dive into. Come to think of it a video examining *why* the crafting world is so full of drama would be really interesting
I love your channel and I’m shocked you’ve recently started! Your editing, video format and way of presenting information is engaging and very informative. I can’t wait to see what interesting topics you cover in the future!
One of my favorite pastimes is going to HL in my “Science is Real” or “Equal Rights” t-shirts and walk around. 😊
What you are attracting is prayer. When I see someone who is lost I pray for them.
@@SusanChristmas That's forcing your religion and is incredibly rude babes 💞💞Jesus isn't fond of rudeness, is he?
@@magiiyoo6715 I believe Jesus turned over the money tables in the temple a house of worship. do you think that was rude??????Also think he used a whip to drive these people from the temple. Do you think that was rude??????
@@magiiyoo6715 BTW Praying for someone isn't rude its a kindness
@@SusanChristmas bless your heart
Hobby Lobby is an awesome craft store and a great place for seasonal decor…and I will not shop there. My reasons include those presented here, their ties with IBLP and their promotion of theocracy
I am obsessed with your channel please keep up the amazing work. I wish I could listen to you talk about craft drama daily omg
Opening a store with a $600 loan. My mind can't even grasp that.
I started crochet last month and both of your channels have been HOGGING my recommended feed lol. When TH-cam does that I try and not click just to be like “u can’t force me” but I finally clicked and your videos are awesome lol. Binging rn while finishing a cardigan. I should’ve clicked sooner lol.
I've been boycotting Hobby Lobby since they sued in the Supreme Court to be allowed to discriminate against their women employees in offering a full range if healthcare under the ACA---by claiming their corporation has religious beliefs. Not the owners, but the corporation itself. They've lost thousands of dollars from my pocket that Michael's has gained since 2012, and I don't miss HL any more than they miss me.
I know it’s not new drama by any means, but I’d love to see a video about crochet fast-fashion as a broad topic. I know you mentioned shein but a lot of companies sell crochet items and I would love to hear more about that
This was NUTS, I didn't know half of the things they've done! I'd heard that Hobby Lobby was another Chik-fil-A-esque hyper-religious business but I'm not an American so I didn't know the details. Amazing what you can get away with when you're rich.
As an American citizen I really think we treat celebrities/rich people as gods..its very odd. Also, using religion as your main sell point in a business is gross..
They can get away with it because they are rich, Christian, and white. The trifecta!
I struggle with boycotting corporations. There is a small town about 45 minutes from me and the only craft store there is a Hobby Lobby. If people wanted to go to a Michael’s or Joanns they’d have to drive at least 30 minutes to do so. People that are low income can’t always afford to go the next town to shop for craft stores so sometimes it’s there only option.
Exactly! They clearly aren’t actually thinking about people in small towns/ lower income areas very much.
I live in a small town with only a hobby lobby. I still don't shop there. There are so many small businesses you can support online instead of shopping at hobby lobby.
Two words, mail order. I’m disabled and have problems with mobility. I order online all the time
I live 30 minutes from Hobby Lobby which is the closest craft store. If I need something and can’t wait for Amazon, I don’t have a choice. Like other craft stores, they have downsized their yarn department. The trouble with ordering online is you don’t always get an accurate color.
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA against APPROXIMATELY FOUR HUNDRED FIFTY (450) ANCIENT CUNEIFORM TABLETS
i'm just imagining a clay tablet sitting in the defendants seat with a microphone in front of it and its hilarious
Omg!! Mx Domestic is my uncle!! Really cool to see them at the start of your video it definitely surprised me 😂 I really enjoyed your video!!
omg lol
I was the only black person inside hobby lobby and it was hilarious bc I live in a pretty diverse side of town, they were playing church lobby music and it was kinda giving hurry up and get out vibes lol. I was looking for a specific craft item
I'd rather that today I went to buy milk and they had a radio on at the store playing a song about getting naked and it was so loud. I'll take church music over stripper music while shopping
Don't blame them for your vibes...
My friend's dad was in the "He Gets Us" ad for the super bowl and it was absolutely insane to film. He's the one with the beard in the picture used for it. I didn't expect to see him here and it honestly shocked me to my core.
This is the first video Ive watched from your channel, and I absolutely loved it! You have a great speaking voice and it is obvious that you spent some serious time researching this. Im impressed with your hard work, youve gained another subscriber! Looking forward to more!
Ok ok. I’m not even 5 minutes in and I was like “nah. I’d never EVER work for hobby lobby” but then they said how much they pay an hours 👀 that’s nearly 3X as much as I made at my old job and with that one I was covering extra shifts and not getting my lunch breaks. im seriously thinking about working there so i can afford my sons diapers and my college 😭
great video, well researched, and I really applaud your foray into commentary, Emma! you're doing great , and this was incredibly well done! I am someone with one special interest foot in the hobby space and one special interest foot in political commentary so this is right up my alley LOL
Thank you for helping to spread awareness about this hateful company. I DONT think anyone should shop there and I feel sick whenever I see someone mention getting supplies from there in a TH-cam video... but I also don't want to comment every single time that they should look into the stores history/consider different options because I know most people aren't willing to be inconvenienced and will just get mad at me for suggesting it.
I won't shop at the one near me, either. Michael's and Joann are my craft stores. My mother will shop there, but we hold very different viewpoints on boycotting businesses. I just don't talk to her about it or use whatever she buys from there.
I do a LOT of crafting (retired).
If I watch a UTube vid that uses HL merchandise, I exit that vid. Immediately. There are enuf crafting vids that I can choose to watch crafters that are @ least nominally more compatible w/my values.
The HL health insurance plan blatantly discriminates against women, who are overwhelmingly it's customer base. Not gonna buy into that!
Stay away Gays
A crafts-drama channel is so perfect it's almost spookily specific; like the TH-cam algorithm AI made this channel based on my own engagement. Glad I found you!
I love satanists sm. Basically saying “your hypocrisy is offending my religious beliefs” is so hilarious
Wont lie to you, i definitely would have fallen for those AI statue pictures. They look really convincing at first glance.
I don't shop there but I really appreciate you not shaming others if they do. Like seriously, that's so important. Things aren't black and white
Sending so much love and support. So far I've greatly enjoyed every single upload to this channel, I'm so glad your content has evolved in this direction!!! 🥰🥰 Very well made videos.
so excited for your future videos! ❤
omg thank you!! love your videos as well 🫶🏻
I only recently discovered and subscribed to your needlework channel and I’m absolutely loving this one too. as someone with ADHD it gives me something to listen to while I work, but I also really appreciate that you seem to be a very reasonable person who gives credit where it’s due. I was raised Christian and Conservative and while I am HIGHLY No Longer Those Things sometimes the way people talk about these issues cringes me out a little bit. I appreciate that you’re letting the shitty truth speak for itself. really great story/info telling!
edit: to further explain myself here, I’m not saying we should applaud people for putting minimal effort into not being shitty. I just think it’s goofy when people go over the top when talking about people they disagree with to the point where they’re unable to acknowledge that there are good, or even neutral people in the group being discussed that do good or neutral things. I like that this person is telling the truth about them, which contains true bad things and true good things and true neutral things.
also I hope this doesn’t come off like I’m defending anyone. I’m actually saying there is enough horse shit without us having to intervene and add more lol
@@raggedillyBeing apologetic undermines anything you have to say
@@chickensalad3535 I’m not sure what you mean.
@@raggedillyI agree with you 100%. And being concise is not the same as being ‘apologetic.’ Thanks for taking the time to express yourself so fully.
Craft world drama??? I never knew I needed this. 😂 So glad to have discovered your channel!!!
I loove your change to the neckline!! I hope you're pleased with it. Polishing a sweater and redoing a neckline is something many knitters would think is too intimidating so its so great to show how simple and transformative it is!
i have been wanting a good video on hobby lobby and their scandals + unsustainability for SO LONG!! and i'm SOO happy you were the one to make it!!! there really isn't enough media on this, and there really needs to be especially in the arts, crafts community, even better in the fiber art community as sadly hobby lobby does have some of the best yarn options. sighh. f them!!
Having a day your store is closed or a time your store has closed has NOTHING to do with employees having work life balance. A better work life balance is just asking your employees which days THEY PERSONALLY prefer off and what times THEY PERSONALLY need off.
Thank you for exposing the bad acts of this company. I refuse to shot at Hobby lobby
I’m a new subscriber. Love your channel. It was in my suggested list over a week ago. I’m a crochet and craft person. I’ve been binge watching your videos. Thank you. Also I love your evil eye necklace. I’ve never seen one with pearls before. It’s beautiful. Thanks for providing interesting and enthralling content. Cheers from Buffalo NY 🦬
remember folks: you can always steal from hobby lobby! they suck AND its insanely easy!
Yeah maybe DONT commit a felony even if it's a bad corporation the employees don't get paid enough for that
@sowrgummiwrmz the employees don't suffer if someone pockets some gel pens be real.
@@sowrgummiwrmz I promise nobody is getting charged with anything for stealing pens and bracelet charms and that no hobby lobby employee that has ever existed cares that much
@@sowrgummiwrmzIt won't hurt the employees. That's the sort of thing big corporations want you to believe so you won't want to steal.
@@preyslaydisplayjust b careful bc my store only has camera at the cashiers, the beading section, and the fine arts section aka where the small and expensive items are. My coworkers would chat in the fabric section because there wasn’t cameras
This channel seems like a lot of fun. I definitely learned a few things about HL.... and although I'd decided not to support them after the contraception issue hit the news, now I am very glad to have kept my craft dollars supporting other stores!
I just went down a rabbit hole watching all her videos. Starting from top to bottom, Love everything!
im binging all your videos today and i must say i love them all thank you ! gonna recommend my sister watch to