Why OG Dragon Ball Will Always Be Better Than Z (To Me)

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  • @alex_thesaiyan9853
    @alex_thesaiyan9853 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +56

    Dork

    • @Th0maZzzleep
      @Th0maZzzleep 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

      🤖

    • @mercenary1106
      @mercenary1106 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      🤖

    • @alex_thesaiyan9853
      @alex_thesaiyan9853 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@mercenary1106 name one thing better than dbz in db

    • @abhabh6896
      @abhabh6896 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Tell that to your favorite character, the whiny, crying, scardy Z mascot, the symbol of asspulls.....

    • @Th0maZzzleep
      @Th0maZzzleep 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      @@alex_thesaiyan9853 I can name multiple actually, but I won't. The creator of this video clearly said that dbz isn't bad, yet you call him a dork FOR NOT HAVING THE SAME OPINION AS YOU!!! People like YOU are the dorks. People who can't understand what subjective means. No matter if someone likes DB or DBZ more they are still fans of Dragon ball. And you are too. No need to call someone names for liking something else.

  • @deandredukes95
    @deandredukes95 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +296

    OG DragonBall is criminally slept on

    • @Simo-d3t
      @Simo-d3t 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      cuz Z is better

    • @realAndresilver
      @realAndresilver 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      ​@@Simo-d3tno it aint boy😂

    • @CoolJamz887
      @CoolJamz887 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      It's cuz in the US got Z first

    • @Ben_gamer10
      @Ben_gamer10 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Ikr, OG dragon ball is peak, I reread OG dragon ball and it was greater than I remember, I think the plot and story and characterisation is better than Z, but Z has better choreography and villains, I enjoy Z, but OG dragon ball is better, and my favourite OG dragon ball villains are demon king piccolo (the 1st one), taopaipai and piccolo jr

    • @Ben_gamer10
      @Ben_gamer10 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      And I love how creative Goku was with his tail

  • @TahaTheArtist
    @TahaTheArtist 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +178

    Few things hit harder than in the last arc of OG DB, after Goku grows up, when you realise that Kid Goku is basically gone forever. Adult Goku is cool and all but if you've experienced his young adventures, you genuinely miss kid Goku.

    • @weirdface1846
      @weirdface1846 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

      i'm just always baffled to see how kid goku has grown into such a fine and legendary man hard to believe they're the same person

    • @Not_obligated2care
      @Not_obligated2care 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      @@weirdface1846 same bro sometimes I just sit in my room looking at my dragon ball z posters thinking “damn that’s wild how they’re the same person, bro really turnt into THAT GUY” 🏆.

    • @mechaocean170
      @mechaocean170 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      That's how I started to feel when Naruto got older for Part 2/Shippuden. I really missed the OG Naruto. Still do.

    • @orbboom6119
      @orbboom6119 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@mechaocean170helps that toriyama made Gohan, Goten and brought back kid goku with daima

    • @iljamuchin8474
      @iljamuchin8474 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Daima

  • @Kurostyle21
    @Kurostyle21 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +64

    People fanboy Vegeta so hard as the best character in all of Dragonball but to me it's Piccolo since he grew up as the spawn of basically the devil and had the greatest arc in the whole series. Even during DBZ he kept getting stronger to keep up with the sayans and later turned from the demon king incarnate to the God of the world.
    I can now tell how unsatisfying the world of DBZ could be if all you watched was DBZ. OG is way too integral to appreciate the world and characters.

    • @Prince-Shogun
      @Prince-Shogun 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I agree with you! It's annoying that Vegeta fans act so biased to anyone that doesn't agree with them!

    • @Mal-go5dl
      @Mal-go5dl 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Vegeta is annoying af, bro should've just stayed dead

    • @ssjsal2159
      @ssjsal2159 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Mal-go5dltoo bad he makes too much money for the series so I’d say many others would disagree with your take but to each their own

    • @Prince-Shogun
      @Prince-Shogun 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @Mal-go5dl agreed, would've made the story better!

    • @0vern9K
      @0vern9K 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Kurostyle21 Piccolo did not have the greatest arc. And he wasn’t a literal demon. king piccolo just called himself that. If he’s a literal demon kami would have to be as well. And he wasn’t

  • @KGBeast.
    @KGBeast. 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +64

    I feel like OG Dragon Ball, as time goes by, will feel more nostalgic and heart-warming as it drew inspiration from the Chinese legend of the Monkey King, featuring mythical creatures, dragons, and Goku’s tail, flying Nimbus, and staff, all reflecting the Monkey King’s traits. It focused on action and adventure, with quests to find the magical Dragon Balls that grant wishes.
    In contrast, Dragon Ball Z shifted to a more action-oriented tone, emphasizing battles based on power levels rather than the classic adventure tone of when it was beginning. Akira Toriyama likely intended this tonal shift to appeal to a more mature audience in a way, letting the series grow up with its readers while still retaining some of the series' chaotic charm.

  • @saiyanleague653
    @saiyanleague653 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    OG Dragon Ball has always felt like reading a great adventure book or playing an amazing, comfy JRPG. It was Avatar the last airbender before it Avatar ever existed. I feel the people who haven't watched it aren't real fans & are missing out on a crucial part of the story. Dragon Ball's story doesn't start with Z. Loved this video so so much. For me personally, OG Dragon ball, the android/cell saga & the Zamasu/tournament of power are the best of Dragon Ball in my humble opinion.

    • @noirspiderman44
      @noirspiderman44 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      First arc of Dragonball is so underrated imo..
      Would've loved some more "simple" adventures instead of heading into training and tournaments

  • @Ghostly_scarf
    @Ghostly_scarf 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    as a gen z who just started watching dragonball mid 2024, OG dragonball holds a very special place in my heart and honestly might be my favorite

  • @Ab-hw9zy
    @Ab-hw9zy 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    The tournaments in OG DB are peak. Goku and his opponents keep doing new tricks, steal moves from each other and reverse expectations. Goku uses his kamehameha to launch himself in the air, or to accelerate his fall when he's in the air. He keeps using techniques in unexpected ways, and so do his opponents like Tien and Piccolo

  • @sammyboi8938
    @sammyboi8938 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    I have said this countless times but I'll say it again. The best Son Goku for me is Kid Goku

    • @ssjsal2159
      @ssjsal2159 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I like early Z Goku the best

  • @shariqhasan6220
    @shariqhasan6220 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    OG Dragon Ball is the only anime in the DB Franchise which is consistent both story telling wise and the quality of the story.

    • @uchihabomber1296
      @uchihabomber1296 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah I agree it’s honestly the most consistent

    • @0vern9K
      @0vern9K 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Your just lying now OG ball has so much crap go on story wise. Just off my head the sacred water crap. No it’s not consistent. I swear you ppl overrate ts to much now

  • @MatterCool90
    @MatterCool90 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

    Dragon Ball has gone off the rails. It's really just about 'my new form can beat up your new form' now. I used to think the Buu saga was pretty wild in that department, but it has reached truly ridiculous heights with Super. There also seems to be no real meaningful direction to the story or character development, it's just, "A NEW FOE HAS EMERGED.. AGAIN.. AND HE IS KILLING PEOPLE FOR FUN..CAN GOKU DEFEAT HIM WITH HIS NEW FORM (that's the narrator voice)??This series is just old and played out now, not to mention predictable. They should have just stuck to movie features.

    • @IkemObu
      @IkemObu 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Honestly, your right as hell! Dragon Ball Super, Goku has Ultra Instinct as just another form, and he’s too OP. I watched Goku vs DKP and Goku vs Jiren and the DKP fight just hit more with where Goku didn’t transform and just used all that he learned, especially that stomach kick DKP recieved

    • @4kcris4567
      @4kcris4567 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @SpectreStatus I agree. I don't hate Z or even Super. But the direction they took things after OG to me is just not as good for the exact reasons you mentioned. I really wish DB kept going in the directions of OG DB.

    • @0vern9K
      @0vern9K 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Z was nothing like that. You ppl will describe Z in the most shallow way possible but be slobbering all over the pace going in depth for OG Ball,
      If anything OG ball is like that. Almost every villain that shows up it’s just goku crapping on them. Or not due to some circumstances like being hungry or somethin

    • @littlemoth4956
      @littlemoth4956 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@0vern9KHe wasn’t even talking about Z lmao. I was gonna say you haven’t watched DB but you haven’t even fully read the comment 😂

    • @littlemoth4956
      @littlemoth4956 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I love the OG DB and prefer it over the other series but this take sucks.

  • @SuperGogeta21
    @SuperGogeta21 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Holy shit, one of the few video essays where i agree with everything thats being said😭.
    Such a shame it doesn't get much attention as its also my favorite part of the story. One of my biggest nitpicks too was when goku gave up the power pole... It's such a simple weapon but lead to such creative action, I'm so glad they brought it back for daima.

  • @delix787
    @delix787 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +79

    It’s crazy when Dragon Ball fans fight for the fact that Dragon Ball has a story, yet they’ll be honest and admit they’ve never seen the original series but continue to say it tells an amazing story when you don’t even know half of the original material? 😂

    • @Simo-d3t
      @Simo-d3t 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Z is better cope

    • @bobnasty8671
      @bobnasty8671 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      does z not have a good story or something?

    • @MarcusEveillard
      @MarcusEveillard 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 ​@@Simo-d3t

    • @Pebblez23
      @Pebblez23 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      @@Simo-d3tit’s ok to be wrong gng

    • @danslandmunro351
      @danslandmunro351 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@Pebblez23he ain’t wrong tho

  • @TheSoyestToEverSoy
    @TheSoyestToEverSoy 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +49

    I don't agree that DB is better than DBZ, because I felt so much more emotionally invested due to the constantly high stakes, but DB is definitely so underrated. DB was so more fun reading and watching than DBZ. You stated every reason I love DB. The characters are so freaking adorable, funny af, and serious at times when it matters.

    • @touchguapjuice
      @touchguapjuice 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I agree Original DB is better and underrated it doesn't get enough hype that's why I'm reading the manga

    • @arrombaacasa390
      @arrombaacasa390 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah db is better

  • @richborn6700
    @richborn6700 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I was 6 in 1999 when I found DBZ. I didn't fully watch og DB until I was 22. Id seen episodes on Toonami and while I watch Z and it's dripping in nostalgia, Dragonball gives me a heart warming sense of familiarity, despite not having nearly the attachment to it I had to DBZ as a youth. Now a decade later OG might be my favorite, then Z, GT, and Super

  • @anthonyjamesvasquez
    @anthonyjamesvasquez 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Having recently looked back at both OG Dragon Ball and Z, I absolutely agree. Dragon Ball was really fun and different. DBZ had its high points, but it was all about fighting and power-ups. The sense of fantasy and adventure (post-Namek, anyway) was completely gone and old characters we came to enjoy were shafted in favor of characters introduced by Z.

    • @danieladuye895
      @danieladuye895 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      That’s probably why he made daima

    • @0vern9K
      @0vern9K 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      DBZ was not just about fighting and power ups that’s how they started telling the story and themes. You ppl describe dbz like you watched it with your brain Half way working.

    • @Gokiybfdi_2010
      @Gokiybfdi_2010 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@0vern9K people like you only cry about shit like let the person have their opinion they're not forcing you to like z stop being such a cry baby

    • @broken120z
      @broken120z 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thats why sometimes we say you have to read something twice. Shame if you saw nothing but fights and power ups if you read the Z portion of Dragon Ball. It offers a lot more.

  • @Supertron1
    @Supertron1 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Man, i really want an OG Dragon Ball game that combines elements from both Kakarot and Sand Land.

  • @robblaettler4589
    @robblaettler4589 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I went back and watched OG dragonball after growing up with Z. Classic dragonball is great.

  • @Sir.Markel
    @Sir.Markel 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    This is a real Dragon Ball fan.

  • @PixelPenGamer
    @PixelPenGamer 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    My cat as a kid was called Meow Pai-Pai, for sheer epic factor. And he did end up being an assassin.
    Also, I never even knew Z existed back in the Balkans. We started with DB, and we loved it. Fully agree with this video.

    • @KumoBear12
      @KumoBear12  14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Meow Pai-Pai lmao💀

    • @PixelPenGamer
      @PixelPenGamer 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @KumoBear12 My guy killed everything from spiders, lizards, birds, mice, and rats. Lived a healthy 12 years of murder

    • @The_Man_Who_Sold_the_World.
      @The_Man_Who_Sold_the_World. 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Balkian rage

  • @cieno200
    @cieno200 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    IT'S IMPORTANT TO MENTION THE COMEDY. One of the best jokes I heard was when in the manga Master Roshi wants to give Goku a phoenix, so he asks what it is and they explain to him that it's a bird that never dies, ONLY FOR THEY TO MENTION IN THE NEXT PANEL THAT THE PHOENIX DIED FROM POISONING LAST YEAR. IT'S PURE COMEDY

    • @KumoBear12
      @KumoBear12  14 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Oh yeah that one was actually hilarious lmaooo

  • @androidsenpai1462
    @androidsenpai1462 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It’s especially impactful when you realize that in the manga, “OG Dragon Ball” refers to the entire original series. As in, Gokū’s first meeting with Bulma to Gokū flying away with Uub. There is no “Dragon Ball Z” to compare it to; it’s just one insane, wonderful story.

  • @supermariohack3218
    @supermariohack3218 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Always glad to meet some like minded people.:) DBZ is neat, but the original Dragon Ball is just so much more entertaining for me with it's bigger focus on light-hearted adventures rather than revolving about beating a specific villian (Even if that's what the last two OG DB arcs also revolve about lul) as well as me just generally enjoy Toriyama's comedic writing more than his serious stories.

  • @Sensationo1986
    @Sensationo1986 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Toriyama drawing sick looking vehicles because he had to work instead of building his models... at least I assume this I remember that Dr. Slump panel where he showed like 30+ unbuilt model cars in his office.

  • @MarioBusters
    @MarioBusters 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    The world-building felt larger in OG DB which fell off a bit when going into Z.
    I know a lot of people who went back to watch OG after going through Z, great video might have to re-read dragon ball again lol.

  • @dwainfrett5385
    @dwainfrett5385 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    8:25 we are introduced to Gohan in Z so we basically get the same experience he does to the story. A bunch of the other characters are killed off or left on earth when they go to Namek anyway. The story doesn’t really care that much

  • @BlazingAuras
    @BlazingAuras 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I, too, like Dragonball's two halves equally (good because it's the whole story😅), but goodness, I'd be disappointed if a new fan would miss out on Goku learning to grow up.
    A small moment I love from the Red Ribbon Arc is Goku learning to find Bulma in the city and just handing out money to a girl who helps. So innocent~

  • @emperormilk_
    @emperormilk_ 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave and true!

    • @0vern9K
      @0vern9K 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s not true at all

    • @Gokiybfdi_2010
      @Gokiybfdi_2010 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@0vern9K to you lil bro

    • @0vern9K
      @0vern9K 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Gokiybfdi_2010 no it’s just not

  • @Jose1412t
    @Jose1412t 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Og dragon had that feeling that i dont know how to describe it but its really good my one of my favorite over the other shows definently

  • @yeetmeister3055
    @yeetmeister3055 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Always felt like og dragonball was more mysterious and spectacular, it really drew upon your imagination. Master Roshi's extreme training style, a talking cat carrying mystical water, and demons were green people with weird anteni, even Goku's monkey like origins were a mystery. While dbz does do well with expanding upon these concepts it did somewhat feel more grounded and didn't have that much mystery, 2 arcs in and Goku's already challenging the upper echelon of the entire universe, the emperor of the universe himself, and the demons themselves were already explained to be "namekians" and Goku's heritage is fully explained and delved into deeper, questions were answered and newer questions weren't really posed all too often.
    While I myself prefer the more expanded upon dbz, I can completely understand why someone would prefer the more mystical og dragon ball.

  • @forrestlong7898
    @forrestlong7898 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The Funniest thing for me was that pill that Bulma gave Oolong in the first arc and anytime she would say piggy he had to go poop

  • @TheBigIronOnMyHip
    @TheBigIronOnMyHip 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Imagine there are tons of people saying they are original Dragon ball fans and yet they haven't seen the original dragon ball.

  • @OmegaFalcon
    @OmegaFalcon 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I love Z, but honestly after watching OG Z was never as good to me cuz OG was THAT fantastic.

  • @delio910
    @delio910 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I watched OG DB and it was perfect..DBZ is the perfect sequel though, ngl.😮

  • @user-tz5uq2bt1s
    @user-tz5uq2bt1s 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Haven't watched your video yet but before I do I just wanted to say I like Dragon Ball more than Z as well.
    Backstory on the matter if you're interested:
    As a little kid in the mid 90s, my dad takes me into the bedroom to show me what he has on the tv, Goku and Vegeta doing their famous beam struggle, and from then on I was hooked. Loved DBZ growing up, and from time to time my dad and I would watch it together.
    As a young adult, I decided to watch OG Dragon Ball and realized I liked it more. Quite a few years later, I somehow ended up in a situation where my dad and I had the time to spend together, and I convinced him to sit and watch the entire Dragon Ball series with me. Took a couple months, but we did it. After we finished the last episode, I asked him if he liked it more than Z, and he agreed also that it was better.
    Now I'm eager to see your reasoning!
    Time to hit play.

  • @OutsideTheBoxComix
    @OutsideTheBoxComix 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    That's why I've been loving Daima because it's a perfect mix of both.

  • @czms922
    @czms922 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Enjoying Og dragon ball is like enjoying part 1 Naruto, you'll get flack from the fan boys of the sequel series,
    and the story feels more attentive on the og one

    • @Bokaley
      @Bokaley 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Do not compare it. Part 2 DG is different from the first and part 2 naruto is just worse than the 1st season

  • @Sybry605
    @Sybry605 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Z is still better tho
    Edit: both halfes are the same when you go to the OG source(the Manga), so if you wanna classify Z, i personally say it's when Goku becomes an adult

  • @nozomashii821
    @nozomashii821 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is probably an extremely hot take, but I also really missed the fights from og dragonball and think og dragonball has some of the best fights. I love Z, don't get me wrong, but Goku was moving different as a kid. I think my favourite moment from him was his fight against old king piccolo, where he uses his tail to wrap around his wrist and swings on his arm like a treebranch. He really feels like a monkey.
    Tao too was really fun, watching Goku be utterly outclassed, usually he uses his smaller size to his advantage against bigger opponents, but Tao was just just casually picking him apart. That moment where Goku lunges from behind and he smoothly dodges it and whips Goku to the ground with his braid was so great. It's criminal that he's so forgotten, to the point where he's not in Sparking Zero.

    • @KumoBear12
      @KumoBear12  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      For sure, I probably should have talked about that in the video, like goku vs tenshinhan is so damn good

    • @nozomashii821
      @nozomashii821 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@KumoBear12 For sure, both of them though I def like the first one more, I also think the piccolo jr vs goku fight is unreasonably good too, it's crazy well animated. I think it also does a lot of work to establish Goku as the junkyard dog he is in Z, it's the first time he let someone like Piccolo live. King Piccolo really got no mercy, but even more damaged than he was vs King Piccolo he still spares him so that he can fight him again in the future.
      Tien and Piccolo Jr's path from evil to good were peak in general

  • @gwen9340
    @gwen9340 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I've always liked DB more than DBZ

  • @dylanthomas385
    @dylanthomas385 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Because it was an on somble piece with multiple characters of different motivations powers and style of doing things. And didn’t makes an active serial killer’s the main character

  • @Phodie56
    @Phodie56 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wait, did I miss something from OG DB? I could swear some of these scenes look redrawn with GT's animation and gi.

  • @TheGamingWolf3650
    @TheGamingWolf3650 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    loved this video. you sum it up really well imo and extra bonus points for using the seed of might footage. you’re a real fan for taking the time to get color accurate footage lmao.

    • @KumoBear12
      @KumoBear12  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you man😅

  • @minahchochoe2960
    @minahchochoe2960 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So i remember starting dragonball on z Kai the final chapters,which means i started late into the story and i didnt really understand it at all,i was ten years old that time and it was 2020,now its 2025 and im currently watching og dragonball and boy oh boy is it great

  • @awesomereviews1561
    @awesomereviews1561 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    OG Dragonball is also DBZ. The original Dragonball manga is the 42 tomes. They only added the Z for the anime when they got a new better staff to work on it. There is no Z in the manga, it’s US invention.

  • @Slamster1996
    @Slamster1996 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Good point and video sir. For me personally, og DB kinda isn't full without Z, without some powerscales, without hairy muscular aryan men. But I feel I'd like to change some moments, to make Z more dramatic and serious, cuz sometimes it wasn't. Won't talk about super, but will talk about Dragon Ball kakumei. Maybe you heard about it. This fan manga just surpassed for me whole Super and it's disadvantages. Yeah there's also some cliche moments, but it's good, it's something new, some movement. Artstyle it's an another level. I'm reading it 2 years and I'm still excited what's will be next, and story isn't even in the middle, it's like only starting.

  • @KingAnimates
    @KingAnimates 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I give respect to Toriyama for giving Dragon ball one of the biggest changes in anime history. He basically made Goku not really the mc anymore (Goku took more of a backseat in the story), made it about aliens, and made it more fighting and intense
    He changed everything about the story…and then DBZ became way more popular than OG dragon ball. Respect to Toriyama.

    • @gra9
      @gra9 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Imo Gohan in a way was a mc of dbz. Goku only appeared in like 2/3 of z

    • @drew6166
      @drew6166 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If you look at the weekly viewership of DB (1986-1989) vs DBZ (1989-1996) DB had higher averages and peak viewers, DB was more popular by number of people watching.

  • @ScapeVEVO
    @ScapeVEVO 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hearing Stephanie say “Power Pole Extend” again was a treat

  • @milicabojic9434
    @milicabojic9434 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Same brother, same

  • @finefine24
    @finefine24 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    dragon ball is so awesome i love it it is so cool. part of the reason i love it so much is that i can legitimately tell when and where toriyama drew from the original journey to the west, which is amazing

    • @finefine24
      @finefine24 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      power pull is probably my favorite example of this actually, because in jttw, wukong takes it from ao guangs kingdom of the east sea. like he just straight up steals a pillar within his castle. and in db, its a connection to kami (god) and a pillar connecting it to korins tower. it's one of my favorite connections its so?? awesome

  • @knuxuki1013
    @knuxuki1013 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I just feel there's so many aspects that were so easily abandoned after the Saiyan Saga, too much, in my opinion

  • @PNDasa
    @PNDasa 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I agree with this completely, as a kid I grew up on DBZ. And only watched Original DB in my late teens. Only recently had I finally picked up the manga and read through all of DB and DBZ and Dragon Ball just hit so perfectly and I love it more than DBZ despite how much I love DBZ as well.

  • @DBZin60
    @DBZin60 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    So much truth spoken here, thank you for making this and educating fans on how and why Dragon Ball is the superior series 💯

  • @mrhunter2154
    @mrhunter2154 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Well to be fair death note has a much darker more serious tone to it but I agree in dragonball the feels are good just depends on my mood

  • @florgenhorgen3124
    @florgenhorgen3124 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Watching the piccolo arcs through the frieza arc is the best

  • @toxicrepeter8607
    @toxicrepeter8607 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    (0:20) Funny how everyone in the comments calls it OG Dragon Ball 😆. I agree we should just call it " DB" or "Ball" since we call the others by their last part as well (Z, GT etc)

    • @KumoBear12
      @KumoBear12  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      "Ball" is criminal

  • @cirnosnumberfan6449
    @cirnosnumberfan6449 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I've always appreciated the adventure aspect, even more so than the fighting.

  • @MagillanicaLouM
    @MagillanicaLouM 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Toriyama was a comedy writer at heart, while still balancing that with drama and the simple but profound themes after the first arc. But I feel that got lost when it became more consistently gritty around Namek/Androids. Probably part of why so many that for some reason still don't go back to that part of the story find the more chill beginning of Buu jarring. Though its why i love that portion, plus the more slice of ventures of Super and the tournament of power.
    The characters are also why, like you said, he does a great job keeping much of the regular cast plenty relevant, or at least fun to have on screen when they are, until the story becomes Saiyan Central with occasional Piccolo highlights lol. I do also just prefer much of the artstyle and designs he had going early on. That more round style that's also in Dr. Slump is Toriyama at his best imo. And Goku with a tail is forever peak.
    Also there's no reason to not have Launch be a regular presence just hanging out with the crew anymore, we get it, he forgot haha,man forgot a lot, but surely Toyotaro and Toei wouldn't have that issue I'm just saying

  • @cecillewolters1995
    @cecillewolters1995 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    As someone that started rewatching the of Dragonball months ago, I wholeheartedly agree with this video.
    Also I like Daima a lot so far, hopefully you will as well ^^

    • @KumoBear12
      @KumoBear12  14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Really looking forward to daima🤞

  • @Batmaninvt12345
    @Batmaninvt12345 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I enjoy the mystery in the world of Og dragon ball. I also liked that the Og group could hold their own.

  • @anthonyness5360
    @anthonyness5360 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thank god i started this franchise in the CORRECT ORDER!😂🎉🎉❤

  • @busymike
    @busymike 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Why does youtube keep recommending me this kid’s videos? *DRAGON BALL AND DRAGON BALL Z ARE ONE CONTINUOUS SERIES.* Stop this BS. This is like saying chapter 1-5 of harry potter is better than chapter 6-10. No one does that, they judge the book as a whole. This is pure stupidity. Just stop making videos about Dragon Ball and stick to JJK or whatever new trash you know more about. You are not qualified to talk about Dragon Ball. You haven’t even watched the whole series. You are just being a contrarian repeating talking points you saw others saying online. Constantly doing this nonsense isn’t going to get you a higher sub count.

    • @whiten4635
      @whiten4635 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I can tell you didnt watch the video. The guy literally said he loves Z and has watched GT and Super with the only show he hasnt watched yet being daima due to wait for the english dub. And yes dragon ball and dragon ball z is one continious story ALTHOUGH when it comes to community of dragon ball its always divided since db and dbz story are very different with db focusing more on being an action adventure comedy , focusing on world building and characters, as well as development of goku physically, mentally, and emotionally, whereas dbz focuses on fast paced action with higher stakes. Theirs a reason why some unfortunate fans skip db saying thats its too slow or boring. Cus most of the time they geew up on Z and Super
      Also why are you gatekeeping someone who has already seen most of dragon ball (as stated in the video), from talking about dragon ball, literally he gave his own reasons why he likes dragon ball more than Z. Is he not allowed to have his own opinion on a series that he pretty much grew up on? Is he not allowed differentiate from db and dbz and choose one over the other? Literally your fomment makes no sense

    • @busymike
      @busymike 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      He didn’t grow up with it, he’s a gen z 🤡. I called him out on the last BS video and told him he didn’t even watch the whole dragon ball series if he would say “GT felt more like Dragon Ball than Super.” and the guy didn’t respond with “Yeah, I watched it.”, he responded saying something about how he read the manga. In my experience, when you call a gen z kid out about not watching the anime they are acting like they’re experts on, they always reply with “Of course I didn’t “watch” it, I read it!” It’s a DAMN lie. He didn’t read it or watch it. Why would he not watch Daima? The dub has already started. *HE DIDNT WATCH DAIMA BECAUSE HE IS TRYING TO COMPLETE THE MAIN DRAGON BALL SERIES.* 🤣😂😂
      As far as Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z communities being different, there are no Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z communities. The only different groups that exist are Dragon Ball fans, and CASUAL fans. Dragon Ball fans judge the series as a whole, casual fans split them apart. It’s popular with casuals to say things like “DRAGON BALL IS BETTER THAN DRAGON BALL Z!” Because Z is the more popular part of the series that blew everything up and the early episodes are less known. Saying the early part is better gives you internet contrarian hipster points, validation, and views. In reality he knows nothing about Dragon Ball as a whole which is why he keeps saying dumb ish. He’s just looking for views by saying controversial stuff he saw in the comment sections.

    • @degenerate-otaku6634
      @degenerate-otaku6634 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@busymike saying gen z people can't or didn't grow up with dragonball is insane btw

  • @PlayJoga
    @PlayJoga 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    beautiful video man

  • @CornellD.Cavendish
    @CornellD.Cavendish 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I would like to hear your thoughts on the Buu Saga SSj2(?) Gohan debate.
    Fortunately I dont recall original Dragon Ball having power scaling issues.

    • @Destrugamer5001
      @Destrugamer5001 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      it has but they are minors (at least compared to Z)

    • @LuisGustavoSO
      @LuisGustavoSO 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@Destrugamer5001like Tao Pai Pai being so weak in comparison to Tenshinhan. This one kinda upsets me.

  • @jordanjackson6151
    @jordanjackson6151 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    3:45….exactly what I always thought. You nailed it!

  • @4kcris4567
    @4kcris4567 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love DB as a whole. But I will always love the OG series the most.

  • @rijusnar1994
    @rijusnar1994 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Just a example,when the arale filler episode came out in super ,many people Didnt knew who she was .
    From that moment you can spot who were true dragon ball fans and those who begin with Z .
    Arale is canon to dragon ball, Goku did came to Pingouin village when he pursuit General Blue.

  • @WilbertBeltman
    @WilbertBeltman 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I'm super thrown off by the sudden super HQ footage of kid goku in his GT outfit with purple haired young Bulma, where is that from?
    Imo the world of DB feels magical and larger then life. There's talking animals and all characters have something to do or can contribute in someway. In DBZ suddenly the world is a normal world? where flying and stuff is weird? Despite everything seen in DB? And there's talking animals? But flying is where they draw the line? With the introduction of Saiyans all other characters that are NOT saiyan get boring, they can't transform. And to me DBZ is boring because all it really is is "Wow this villain is super strong the power level is off the charts we stand no chance!" and then they ask the villain if they can get some time to train and the villain is like "Sure no problem! Its more FUN that way" and then they train, get so strong that they beat the villain and then a new villain arrive and the new villain beats the heroes easily! and then they ask the villain if its ok if they train and the villain is like "Okay its more fun that way" and then they train and maybe get a new transformation, and beat the villain maybe easily, but then a new villain shows up and beats the new form easily! and they ask if its ok if they train and the villain is like "okay" and it repeats like that.

    • @LuisGustavoSO
      @LuisGustavoSO 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      It's from the Dragon Ball: Path to Power movie

    • @KumoBear12
      @KumoBear12  14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      It's from Path to power. I tried to use as much varying footage and images of this part of the series as possible, as I don't think the original anime holds up all that well, and manga panels would get a bit boring to look at lol.

  • @Sigmapunikasanak
    @Sigmapunikasanak 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When I was a lot younger I watched dragon ball super, only one day, yet your totally right, you need a story, because I didn’t know who the hell this angle dude, with a humanoid cat and two guys had to do with anyhting

  • @SupremeColdMTN
    @SupremeColdMTN 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good thing the Title says “(To me)” or else there would probably be a bunch of negative comments

  • @god-sv4sw
    @god-sv4sw 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    People saying DB OG is worse than DBZ
    Those people are not people
    It's a beast
    human brain not working

  • @DaniG._.German
    @DaniG._.German 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No transformations. No power beam struggles. Just dudes with hands

  • @VerifiedDiscipline
    @VerifiedDiscipline 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As someone who is rewatching it it’s Faxs

    • @VerifiedDiscipline
      @VerifiedDiscipline 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      IMO tho Z the best only cause of Gohan and Trunks + Vegeta

  • @astrokidastrokidd4430
    @astrokidastrokidd4430 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wish they would've kept Launch as a main character in the Z arc as they did Dragon Ball.

  • @Zayzurfer
    @Zayzurfer 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is called “being different for the sake of being different” this video is the same as those people who split their tongues and get horns implanted

    • @KumoBear12
      @KumoBear12  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thats so true man

    • @Zayzurfer
      @Zayzurfer 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ lol smh

  • @jazziethunderheart718
    @jazziethunderheart718 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I completely agree about a lot of the main cast being wrongfully pushed aside. It is honestly terrible. How much disrespect those guys have gotten over the years compared to the Saiyans. I had seen some clips of Dragon Ball Z but I told myself if I was going to start the series I would start from the very beginning with OG Dragon Ball and of course I didn’t regret it. It was so much fun watching the beginning and how we got into DBZ, but the same time it was really kind of sad concerning the OG boys. Watching how determined and confident a lot of them were to get stronger than Goku was great.

  • @ethanmcentyre2294
    @ethanmcentyre2294 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Not watching pre Z is also kind of just an american thing. In mexico for example they also got og dragon ball and also think people are wild for skipping

    • @petergriscom3431
      @petergriscom3431 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In the US, we got Z before we got DB, because they figured Z would sell better. It wasn't until Z was well established on Toonami that Funimation did an English dub of DB. I didn't get to watch as much of DB as I did Z, because DB would air at 4PM, so I could only catch it if I finished my schoolwork fast enough.

  • @jujuespino1374
    @jujuespino1374 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’ve always loved dbz, GT, & super but never watched the OG cuz I thought it would’ve aged bad but I’ve started watching it this year and it’s honestly great. Goku is so enjoyable and the cast feels like actual individuals. Other than the amount of times the pedo/rape jokes happen and the times they draw gokus baby wein every other episode. It’s honestly peak. Even tho I knew Goku doesn’t die I still teared up when roshi had to put him down in his ozaru form

  • @ballooningen
    @ballooningen 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My bro skipped dragon ball, what should I do?

    • @KumoBear12
      @KumoBear12  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Kick him out the house bro

  • @timi812
    @timi812 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It's good this man said ,,to me", because if he didn't there would probably some battles here in the comments😂😂😂

    • @KumoBear12
      @KumoBear12  14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Those two words are holding back a war, lmao

  • @caiosmolog
    @caiosmolog 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    OG Dragon Ball screams Toriyama, you can see that he was living with children when he was writting Goku and Oolong and Kame reminds me a lot of his self-drawing where he is reading dirty magazines lol

  • @abhabh6896
    @abhabh6896 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Once OGDB ended, I just kept rewatching it instead of trying to follow Z..... As a kid, kid Gohan frustrated me immensely.... He is just always wimpering...

  • @New3picPictures
    @New3picPictures 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You gonna make a LOT of people mad with these videos 😭

  • @lucidstudious750
    @lucidstudious750 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fun fact: there is no dbz in the manga
    The original run span from Chapter 1 ("og" dragon ball) all the way to Ch. 325 (the 10 year time skip at the end of the buu arc). The "z" was an anime thing

  • @SlickSaiyan-ou2zc
    @SlickSaiyan-ou2zc 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Nice video but I just hard disagree, its definitely preference but I felt the ''Z era'' had far better character writing, development of characters and story as a whole. With that being said, it isn't complete with ''OGDB'' or the first 194 chapters, I usually just refer to it as DB the manga, sense its not a separate story, and only so in the anime variation.

    • @KumoBear12
      @KumoBear12  14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That’s fair. Again I think they’re like equally good as each other, og just has a bit more of what I look for in a story I think

  • @drfirebone1-936
    @drfirebone1-936 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Het kumo bear have you seen dragon ball absalon?

  • @delix787
    @delix787 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Honestly, after I got to the one piece time skip I really started to rethink time skips in general. They’re just not always iconic or as memorable or well written as their original part 1’s.
    When you get to the time skips, they become more popular but more flaws are added! More characters are added, some you care about and some you don’t, but the world expands way too large to the point where nobody knows what is going on anymore after several years have passed in part 2!
    But I’m talking about from a writing perspective, we should always love our favorite series regardless of its flaws.
    But I’m just saying noticing the difference is so obvious when you get to the time skip.

    • @Simo-d3t
      @Simo-d3t 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree with One Piece getting worse in timeskip, but I believe Dragon Ball gets better in Z and gets worse after that. Remember, in the manga Z doesn’t exist it’s just one story line.

    • @KumoBear12
      @KumoBear12  14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I can see that. Personally I think they can work really well, and think the naruto time skip is great

  • @Guldos-Galaxy
    @Guldos-Galaxy 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I agree. I actually made a video similar to this a few days ago about this same topic!

  • @Not_obligated2care
    @Not_obligated2care 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey bro, if you see my comment can you let me know how or where to access dragon ball in this quality? 2:30 I would really appreciate it! 🙏🏾I can only watch the rest past ep 68 in completely blurry quality.

  • @uchihabomber1296
    @uchihabomber1296 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    To me OG Dragon Ball will always be the better series story wise plus it relies less on transformations for their epic battles but I’ll always love DBZ either way. I’ve always felt that it would was the better written series and I agree Kid Goku fr is Adorable and this first series is the funniest too 😂

  • @day0460
    @day0460 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Some one who finally shares my opinion❤

  • @thirachi5836
    @thirachi5836 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I really adore Z, though I do think the jump from Goku's earth adventures to aliens and interstellar threats was a bit sudden

  • @Shinjutzu
    @Shinjutzu 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video

  • @ceegronlee
    @ceegronlee 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Daima has one of the best kid Goku fights ever!

  • @HerooftheWild
    @HerooftheWild 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Same, Dragon Ball never gets the same recognition that Z does because it's "slow and not action-packed as Z."
    It disappoints me when people skip Dragon Ball just to get to Z
    Toriyama probably would've been disappointed if he heard that fans skip Dragon Ball and only watched Z
    Also, the story is so much better when you start with Dragon Ball

    • @Simo-d3t
      @Simo-d3t 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      What are you talking about? There is literally a bunch of fighting right after the first saga. Some of the best fights actually.

    • @christiansamaroo
      @christiansamaroo 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      In the west DBZ came out first. That’s why Dragon Ball don’t get the recognition. DBZ everyone’s first love.

    • @uchihabomber1296
      @uchihabomber1296 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I agree to starting from the beginning like you should it allows you to understand those connections Goku has with the Z fighters to me

  • @Neethan3247
    @Neethan3247 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think the majority of fans agree with this.

  • @XanderThaGreat1
    @XanderThaGreat1 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I stopped the video once you said adorable

  • @Top_E_Official
    @Top_E_Official 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I completely agree with you.
    OG > Z
    GT > Super

  • @wfanking1187
    @wfanking1187 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Kid DB and DBZ are both part of the same og manga, it's just that the later sagas Saiyan to Buu were released earlier by the name DBZ otherwise they are the same continuation of the same manga, GT and Super are separate and different, the earlier arcs if DB were released later the later arcs released earlier and only anime refers to it as DBZ by Americans, everything from Goku and Bulma hunting dragonballs to Goku defeating Kid Buu happened in Dragon Ball it's the same later spin off GT and sequel Super were released, go educate yourself gen z child!

  • @nomanalmoqrin5515
    @nomanalmoqrin5515 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    OG dragon ball is my most favourite anime.