MSI Motherboard Users Need To Update NOW SMM Vulnerabilty Sinkclose & Logofail
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MSI motherboard Users need to update NOW SMM vulnerabilty Sinkclose & Logofail
There have been a number of recent vulnerabilities on the PC platform recently and some have hit the news and headlines, but are they doomsday level threats? How can we patch them? And why have MSI been hit a little harder than others?
We will try and answer some of those questions, and also show you how to protect yourself from some of these threats with a simple BIOS update.
These threats also effect other brands as well, So even if you are not on the MSI eco system it is still worth updating the BIOS on ASUS ASRock Gigabyte Biostar and other brands like DELL HP Acer and others.
This can protect your against the following vulnerabilities
CVE 2024-36877 nvd.nist.gov/v...
MSI SMM threat
CVE 2023-31315 nvd.nist.gov/v...
AMD Sinkclose vulnerability
CVE 2023-40238 nvd.nist.gov/v...
Multi Vendor LOGO FAIL threat
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"Security isn't a dirty word, Blackadder. Crevice is a dirty word, but security isn't."
lol i miss blackadder, the second series was my favourite i think
But Mike however has a cunning plan.
Recently, August, updated my bios using MSI centre but need to check it is the latest. Plus need to check my daughter's PC has that has not been updated for 10/11 months. Thank you for the warning and option reminder. Both of ours have flash back but will do within bios. Thanks again Mike and Kath 👍😺
i check for bios updates way more often than is necessary but i guess it is also part of my job these days to try and warn everyone
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I'd heard nothing about it from any other source. I'll get around to updating my bios on BOTH my desktop and laptop shortly.
the media has been pretty quiet on this for some reason.
@@mikesunboxingi love it raw ❤ thanks
Always good to keep on top of security problems , you also place the renamed file on the root of the C drive and select it for the bios update file.
Good tip!
Mike just updated my b450 gaming plus max bios is latest beta version with "sinkclose" update. Pretty painless had to redo xmp and undervolt. 👍lovely day here looking good for rest of the week. Lol...
had a bit of sun here today, which makes a change from the usual downpours!
Thanks Mike,i just did 2 days ago Monday morningg,new Bios 3th september,into my mobo msi pro B650M-B,and new driver for the RTX 3060 12Gb version. at same time All Good
glad it is all going well
Good video Mike. I haven’t owned an MSI board since about 2002/3.
time to empty your wallet on a new one :-)
@@mikesunboxing nah. I’ve been an ASUS man for a long time and love their motherboards, especially their TUF series.
@@mikebaker2927I liked their stuff but after their crazy price increases and recent controversy I’m happy I moved away tbh
Thanks Mike for the heads up. As much as I hate doing BIOS updates... I guess I'd better do these on my MSI and Gigabyte boards. Take care all. Cheers
yeah security and vulnerabilities are the new virus attacks
thanks for the heads-up.
No worries!
Waiting for the Sinkclose Vulernability Bios to be out of Beta, do have the MSI SMM threat patched though on my B650 AM5 MSI Motherboard, been in Beta since 8/29 i believe
I hate doing BIOS updates. because i make photos of every thing in the BIOS,
before an update. and it takes so much time 😞
But thank you very much for the warning and How To 😀
thanks Mr B appreciate the comment
How does it take so much time? On modern boards you just leave things on recommended, at most you set the fan curve / boot order. What kind of things are you doing in the bios 😂
@@jeremyniels Well. alot more than you. i read 😛
I normally update my bios once a year unless a issue arises, thanks for the reminder, I just checked and saw the last update was 2022 so it was long overdue. Great video Mike, thanks!
Glad I could help!
Looks like the fix BIOSes are beta for all the AM4 models - while you would normally avoid beta, it's probably worth using one in this case
For the AM5, it seems to be the last non-beta, with the beta having the 9000 series TDP boost
a lot of the AM4 boards won't get anything other than beta status unless it is a production model still and even then it is unlikely now that focus has shifted to the newer platforms
Me - owns a b650 motherboard and is concerned, goes through the whole process and goes into the bios, notices its the same bios version I have already
Also me - "can't hurt to do it again just in case"
lol that is the spirit!
Good timing as I am waiting on my B760M P to arrive. I do have ALL the stuff I need from MSI for this board as of a few days ago, like the BIOS 1B0
Good luck! hope it all goes well
They are patching their bios quite fast actually. Usually end user side goes slower, people do not pay attention to their bios version n date of it.. Another funny stuff manufacturers doesn't suggest bios updates. Even on msi web site and msi center keeps saying if it is working we do not suggest bios updates, basicly says do not update your bios act like you are still in 2010 :D . Thats the real danger, i bet there are millions exist out there who follows those instructions..
yes that is very true, i check mine way too often
Hi Mike great video as per usual I usually keep up with my updates although for the B550 Gaming Plus they have the Bios update as 7C56v1J3(Beta version) so I have installed it for fixes!.
these days i am installing a lot more beta versions than i would like to but with these flaws and vulnerabilities being found so often, i guess it is hard for them to keep up with it and do in depth testing
Yes my years of not updating my bios has finally paid off, MSI Z 370 mobo so no need to worry about these he he. But the bios flash segment was great thanks my man.
thank you very much
Hi Mike, I'm currently running the latest stable BIOS version (listed as 7C91vAH) for my B550 Tomahawk. Would you recommend upgrading to the beta version 7C91vAI1, or should I stay as I am, until the new, stable version is released?
i don't know if they will do a lot of beta testing on the AM4 platform now as the focus has shifted to AM5. I would use and i do use a beta bios myself, i would rather the illusion of security than stability, unless it crashes every few seconds which is highly unlikely
Thank you I just updated my MSI pro b650-P WiFi
Cheers Mike
Thanks Dave
Great PSA video Mike and Kath, thanks for sharing 🙂
Thanks for watching
I am definitely going to check mine now, it is always better to be safe.
yeah that is my thoughts exactly
If you're on an Intel 13/14gen, you should probably update your BIOS to get that 0x129 microcode, regardless of who made your motherboard. Of course: Fixes to security/stability are always a great reason to flash your BIOS. It was a bit more intimidating to do this when I started out on PCs in the mid 90s, but I find it exceedingly non-scary and easy these days with things like MSI's "M-Flash". Plus, unlike back then, you now have a ton of good info/guides re flashing out there on the web - which also makes the whole thing way less mysterious and frightening.
yes it is a lot easier now than in the past
Thanks!
No problem! And thank you very much, that is very kind of you
I hate re-doing fan curves after bios updates. I need to buy a splitter for all of them into one 4 pin pwm header so i just need to do one setting for all lol
that is what i have done. CPU fan and 1 chassis fan header and maybe an aio. but that saves a bit of time
Thanks for this information!
No problem!
first of all we have to believe the manufactuers, and you tbh
Hi Mike, I have an old system, an Asus Z370 TUF board, and they haven't released Bios updates since 2021. Will I have any problems? thanks
well you might have some unresolved vulnerabilities on the platform but sadly if the manufacturer doesn't address them there isn't much you can do
@@mikesunboxing From my research on the Z370, the only one that updated regarding these virus was MSI even on AM4 or AM5 MSI was the one that made the most updates, MSI and ASROCK are the best at making bios updates
installed new bios update from the msi center advanced settings without any issues
Chuckles: with I wouldn't recommend MSI centre for flashing the BIOS, me neither🤣😬edit ; We've had a few power cuts of late, certain muscles clench with the mere thought of a flash.
Hi Mike
You mentioned enabling or disabling on board graphics. Are there any positives or negatives to running your main monitor from the GPU and a secondary monitor from the on board graphics, using a 12700k, 3090 and 32gb ddr4
if it is useful to do it that way carry on
Did you not have to suspend bitlocker, disable secure boot, and reset UEFI to defaults before doing the update?
I never use bitlocker but if you do it is worth turning it off before a bios update on any platform
nice, can we download all the msi updates and install them all at the same time on bios?
yes you can
I have MSI Z270 Gaming M5 motherboard and I did the latest BIOS update that only goes up to 2018 Do I need to be worried about what's going on with the MSI motherboards ?
have a read through the security patch notes and effected chipsets and motherboards. Ultimately all platforms get let in the dust at some point, they expect the customer to update to newer more secure platforms
And is this a thing that needs physical access?
Some of the vulnerabilities need direct local access but that could easily change if they manage to trick you into clicking on a link or download
The latest bios for the b550 gaming plus causes audio to stop working. My television and sound system aren't recognised or even showing, yet my headphones are.
that is pretty weird. i have one of those here so i'll try it and see what happens
@@mikesunboxing To add more usable information to this: Upon updating to the latest BIOS (28/8/2024 time stamp) my television and surroundsound system are on longer recognised, I have tried multiple BIOS' to see if that fixes it - it does not, the only BIOS that worked was from 2021 and I am not using that because it is woeful and really unstable - I am currently running the BETA version, as it has the latest fixes, but still my television and sound system are not being picked up. I run an AMD system (everything is AMD), and the gpu is the picture output of course, but I now have lost the ability to use the AMD gpu audio drivers too, which is really strange as they've never given me any issue - they're actually really good, nice low latency and high fidelity. I have reset my audio drivers and setting multiple times (twice for each BIOS I tried) and still nothing.
**I have managed to get the audio working to some degree, neither my television or sound system are being recognised at all, but now the optical input works. Just. I do not have 5.1 capability nor do I have any form of adjustments - highs, mids, lows etc. - Realtek audio control panel has vanished and does not seem to be installed, it was about 2 hours ago, but has since vanished. **
I think this might be the last MSI product I own, this is utterly ridiculous now, 5 different BIOS just to get sound to come out my pc and even then it's only at 25% the quality and range I had before.
Noticed it didn't list z690 does this mean I'm safe, for now.
I would update anyway if you haven’t in a while
@@mikesunboxing I think I updated somewhere around June. I'll be sure to check for an update though. Thanks.
Looks like one was released about a month ago. Job for tomorrow 👍
the latest non beta or beta version? I have problems with my fans blasting full force with a new bios. I reacted this on annother vid where you advised to revert back to the stable one...
thanks, for the heads up. Wish i could gift but i don't have a creditcard
that is often a trade off with software and bios updates, sometimes something else gets broken as part of the fix. I always say it is a trade off between stabilty, speed and security often it is hard to have all three.
Gifts are unnecessary just leave a like and a comment that is all we ask.
@@mikesunboxing Well, it was time for a clean windows install so i did that yesterday. I updated the bios an hour ago and my settings actually save now + it seems stable for now so i'm all good finally ;D
Did the bios update on my B550 gaming plus but I went back to the older version right away. My RX 6750 XT stopt working……. Tried it multi times but it’s not working for me
that is strange, not sure what is going on there?
I was told to not update my bios on the b650 tomahawk unless something is messing up? So confused on the mixed messages
it comes down to the balance of stability speed and security, you can decide which are more important, you can rarely have them all
@@mikesunboxing unfortunately true lol
But old legend diy peoples said don't update bios if your system is stable?
that is the same for windows updates, but with online computer security being such an easy attack vector for criminals and hackers, those old values are being put to the test. Look at the recent Android TV box hacks, old outdated unsecure software, leaves the doors wide open for attacks
@@mikesunboxing Thank i will update my b550 tomahawk after 3 years.
Please dont use MSI CENTRE...explicit in BIOS related!!
Does the a520 need doing?
i would take a look and see if there is a new version, i would suspect there is
@@mikesunboxing I just looked and there is, now gotta do it, hope I don’t brick the board, never done it before 😂
Rn it’s a beta right? Think it’s worth doing or just wait for the proper one to come out?
Entirely up to you, weigh up the pros and cons of increased security versus the possibility of the beta not being stable. Generally I find the majority of patches to be beta initially
The fact that homies using Msi center tells me everything I need to know lol. Foh with ur clickbait bs bro
😂 get an education.
@@mikesunboxingI’m quite educated. It’s only local. So don’t be an idiot and ur good. Also, Msi center is bloatware trash.
The solution to this problem was not clearly stated and I got nowhere with the link.
the solution is to update your bios, i don't see how it could be much clearer?
the links are to explain the vulnerabilities, i can't possibly link to every msi motherboard bios, you have to take a bit of responsibility for your own security, just google the model of your motherboard and click the support tab like i did in the video.
If youd like to join the Discord channel and then go to one of the Tech Rooms then one of the people there would be happy to help. Can you find the link to the Discord channel yourself or would you like to be spoon-fed that too ?
MSI have produced hundreds of different motherboards since 1986 in a variety of ranges for the consumer market
MEG Godlike
MEG Ace
MEG Unify
MPG Carbon
MPG Force
MPG Edge
MAG Tomahawk
MSI Mortar
MAG Bazooka
MSI Pro
"MSI’s manufacturing facility outside Shenzen, China is massive. Seriously: the complex and currently houses approximately 7000 employees, according to the facility’s director. Many of those employees work to produce thousands of motherboards and graphics cards every single day,"
To list them all individually would be a laborious and pointless task.
May I suggest you look up the make and model of your motherboard via you favored search engine to resolve your issue.
MSI have produced hundreds of different motherboards since 1986 in a variety of ranges for the consumer market
MEG Godlike
MEG Ace
MEG Unify
MPG Carbon
MPG Force
MPG Edge
MAG Tomahawk
MSI Mortar
MAG Bazooka
MSI Pro
"MSI’s manufacturing facility outside Shenzen, China is massive. Seriously: the complex, which I visited in late May, currently houses approximately 7000 employees, according to the facility’s director. Many of those employees work to produce thousands of motherboards and graphics cards every single day,"
To list them all individually would be a laborious and pointless task.
May I suggest you look up the make and model of your motherboard via you favoured search engine to resolve your issue.