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Light a charcoal grill FASTER than propane? Fire starters vs Grill Torch 🔥🔥🔥

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  • A propane grill is fast & convenient, but can we light a charcoal grill fast enough for mid week cooks? To find out I put one of the least expensive (fire starters) against one of the most expensive (GrillBlazer Grill Gun) head to head in a timed race to see how long it takes to get to a stable 400f cooking temp.
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  • @revel8r413
    @revel8r413 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Surprised to hear that you’re only at 89k subscribers. Your videos are very informative for me as a newbie to grilling and the the Kamado. I have a series 2 big joe.

  • @tcorris
    @tcorris หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve started my Akorn kamado with a heat gun and blow torch for years. It’s always ready to cook on in 15 minutes.

  • @Isovapor
    @Isovapor ปีที่แล้ว +38

    A cheaper alternative to the Grill Gun is a propane weed burner torch purchased at most hardware stores. I bought mine from Harbor Freight for under $40 USD. Cheers! Great test comparison!!

    • @jamesbell5793
      @jamesbell5793 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's what I use. I had the grill gun. I broke after 3 uses. Took it apart before I sent it back to amazon. too many cheap plastic parts inside, bad design.

    • @alanawno2750
      @alanawno2750 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I completely agree. I was so close to pulling the trigger (pardon the pun) on the grill gun as a treat for myself but after research and reading the reviews its really not the Rolls Royce of lighters and there are much cheaper alternatives that do the same job. In the same breath if anyone deserves a little kickback from suppliers i would say this channel certainly deserves it. I’m interested in the amount of coals to light also. Is it possible to light too much at the start and if not, does the latter starting coals produce “bad smoke”?

    • @benflannery7367
      @benflannery7367 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is what I use. A single take of propane has lasted me 2 years and counting

    • @ZDub77
      @ZDub77 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep same here. I have a UDS smoker as well and the weed burner reaches down in the smoker really well. I even refill the 1lb tank or have an adapter to hook up to the 40lb tank. It’s essentially free now

    • @salavalos
      @salavalos ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I use the weed dragon. Dual purpose and quickly lights my bbq

  • @codyc.964
    @codyc.964 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also gave up my propane grill. Once, in the dead of winter, I tried using my gas grill because it would be quicker (good quality Canadian made Napoleon). With all the heat loss at -20 C it took 3 times longer than on the kamado, and the food was dry. Lesson learned, gas grill gifted to a friend who would appreciate it more than I did.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine didn’t last long after getting a Kamado either lol

  • @tombauer7330
    @tombauer7330 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Again, a very useful video, James. I admit that I don't use my KJ3 Classic very much because it takes so long to "fire it up" using starter cubes. The Grill Torch is definitely going onto my Christmas list! Thanks again for an informative KJ video.

  • @coachcp
    @coachcp ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Until this summer I did the fire starters. I now use the grill gun. That said, the trick I did for the starters that was different here is leave the dome open for about 5-10 min when the starter first lights and carefully place charcoal on and around it without cutting off oxygen. That helped me cut down the time on getting more charcoal lit. While the dome wasnt heat soaking, I felt it caught up faster later bc the charcoal was lit when I did shut it. I'd say itd take me about 25 minutes, maybe a little more or a little less.
    That said, the grill gun is faster and more fun. But I'd use the starter in a pinch no problem.

    • @codyc.964
      @codyc.964 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree, when using the starters you have to help them out a bit. Plus, you can use more than one!

    • @coachcp
      @coachcp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@codyc.964 yep, I typically use two. Good call!

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      Good point. You can for sure make it faster with extra starters

  • @herb7877
    @herb7877 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A 3rd option; use newspaper & chimney. I want a grill gun, can afford one, but can't cost justify one. My chimney with a little newspaper & my leaf blower work great & quick. Or at times lite the chimney and then get everything else ready and by the time I'm ready the fire is. My normal time is about 10-15 minutes between lighting and the they are ready. Then about 10 minutes to heat the Kamoto Jr. I also use a coal basket in the Joe.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      yes its about the same speed.. i only avoid it due to climate where half the year the ceramics are near or below freezing and i don't want to dump coals burning at 1100f into ice cold ceramics

  • @AdarBlu
    @AdarBlu ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just use fire starters and in the time it takes to come up to temp I do all of the food prep I was going to have to do anyway.

  • @jeannienutter3015
    @jeannienutter3015 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Once again, you make i so easy to understand and give a clear conclusion. Appreciate all you do to educate us.

  • @robservice2433
    @robservice2433 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really like my JJ George!. Usually throw a starter cube on as well but not always needed.

  • @oteppp4986
    @oteppp4986 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi James - love the video. I live in a townhouse, and my big priority is minimizing white smoke that ends up in my neighbors yard during startup. I don't care how long the startup takes - but which method has the lowest white smoke?

  • @ManCaveMeals
    @ManCaveMeals ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love to find a way to convert you to the dark side and get you loving a temp controller. You can have your grill going and ready to cook at about any temp you want using any inexpensive firestarter you want in 20 to 30 minutes with two minutes or less of hands on time

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      I need to try something other than the ikammand

    • @ManCaveMeals
      @ManCaveMeals ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SmokingDadBBQ absolutely. I am a fan of the fireboard but there are a lot of options

  • @danielurwand4738
    @danielurwand4738 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use a chimney starter, always up and running in around 20 minutes!

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      love a chimney, i just avoid them in winter as i dont want to pour 1100f coals into sub 0 ceramics

  • @muddyfunker3014
    @muddyfunker3014 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this but another thing some people may have is a leaf blower.
    I've used a petrol blower in the past and the intensity it creates is incredible.

  • @TheGreatSantini500
    @TheGreatSantini500 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a BGE since 2013. I use a "only fire #8537 Charcoal Ash Basket, Stainless Steel Charcoal Holder with Handles" from AMZ (excellent - super heavy duty). I arrange 3 or 4 Rutland fire starters on the grate, light them, and place the basket on top of the lit starters. It gets things going v quickly. The basket is awesome, just shake it out over the trash before using the next time. Cuts way way down on back having to clean out ash etc. I use an Iwatani Chef torch to light the starters, which is plenty for searing when sous viding. I like this method better than blasting the lump with my Benzomatic weed torch or my heat gun, both of which I've done. The double pack of Rutlands on AMZ is $39 for 144 of them. I think they are the best starters. I use Thermoworks products / pends and their dual probe unit -- all excellent.

  • @mikesmith-wk7vy
    @mikesmith-wk7vy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the electric starters work well . it takes me about 30-45 min to get the coals ready with one, i would never use a starter cube type thing on a kamado grill

  • @paulthomas3782
    @paulthomas3782 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video James, I use 3 fire starters to get mine going a bit quicker but the GrillBlazer grill gun sure speeds things up. thanks for sharing

  • @joshualarue3335
    @joshualarue3335 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing to keep in mind is the grill size. You're using the xl's. My old large size joe gets up to 400 in 20-25 minutes using 2 starting squares.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes mentioned that. The classic or jr are much quicker

  • @trentparks7047
    @trentparks7047 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Can you add a chimney starter as an alternative to compare against? That’s what I’ve used lately with a single fire starter and the fire gets going quickly.

    • @evanjeffrey9677
      @evanjeffrey9677 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love a chimney starter for a hibachi grill at the park or for a weber kettle where I can start it up on the grill grate. On the kamado with a non-removable lid, I have to start it somewhere else, and it's awkward to dump into the grill. I switched to a grill fan blowing cold air in the bottom vent, it basically turns the grill into a chimney started with less mess or flying embers, and it also starts heating the ceramic right away.

    • @trentparks7047
      @trentparks7047 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@evanjeffrey9677 not sure if I’m doing it wrong or not, but I just set it at the bottom of the big Joe and start the whole thing inside the grill with it open until it gets the first layer going. Then I pour it all in and then close the grill to heat the ceramics. Has been much faster than fire starters only for me. My only request question after is if I should load fresh charcoal on top of the very hot coals after I dump them in or if I should put the hot coals on top of fresh charcoal instead.

    • @evanjeffrey9677
      @evanjeffrey9677 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trentparks7047 Ah, that explains the different experience. I have a classic not the big joe and the chimney won't really fit inside comfortably. If you have a fan that can blow in the bottom vent, I would still try that with or without the chimney, it definitely speed things up.

    • @trentparks7047
      @trentparks7047 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@evanjeffrey9677 I melted the handle of my Joe jr by trying it the same way on my first cook. Lessons learned!

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      yes its about the same speed.. i only avoid it due to climate where half the year the ceramics are near or below freezing and i don't want to dump coals burning at 1100f into ice cold ceramics

  • @loseerich493
    @loseerich493 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I find a firestarter in a chimney yields about the exact amount of time I need to get the food prepped. I thought going from a pellet grill to a charcoal setup would be a lot more time consuming etc but it's not any longer by the time everything's factored in. The gun setup is cool though.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes its about the same speed.. i only avoid it due to climate where half the year the ceramics are near or below freezing and i don't want to dump coals burning at 1100f into ice cold ceramics

    • @loseerich493
      @loseerich493 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SmokingDadBBQ Totally get that!

  • @purleybaker
    @purleybaker ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I prefer a propane starter and it's what I generally use but you can increase the start time with the cubes quite a bit by putting a bit of lump in a mini chimney over the flame and scattering once the flame is out.

  • @jeffrey8859
    @jeffrey8859 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why not use 2 or 3 firestarters espescially when you're in a hurry. This would make the comparison to the (high btu) grillgun more fair.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you absolutely can, or use forced air for the same effect

  • @bp.8334
    @bp.8334 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fire starters like tumbleweeds say to use 2 pieces when you want to grill at say 400 degrees versus starting a 250 degree cook using only one one starter. It comes up to temp much faster although not as fast as a grill gun.
    I just use a chimney or a map gas torch.

  • @matthewrs7
    @matthewrs7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do the oil soaked egg carton or fast food cup tray method with a chimney starter.
    It's even cheaper than buying starter cubes and the chimney brings it to a clean burn much faster than lighting it in the basket.

  • @peterodriguez2364
    @peterodriguez2364 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As someone else mentioned the harbor freight weed burner.. but also if you look in the welding supply at harbor freight they have the torch gun which you can use the 1lb. Propane bottles.. I also fitted an extension hose to keep the canister upright and away from th gun to prevent liquid flowing into the head and it keeps it out of my way when starting coals around 20 bucks plus tax gets you out th door

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      Good tip

    • @BrewReview
      @BrewReview ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You don't even have to get that specific. Any Lowe's or Home Despot will have BernzOmatic propane heads and canisters, too. I've been using those for years, along with the cheap parafin Weber starter cubes.

  • @CoolJay77
    @CoolJay77 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good comparison. I'd picked up fire starters couple years ago but never got around to use them, this video explains why.

  • @JBishop25
    @JBishop25 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wonder what would happen if you used a chimney starter- would more airflow speed things up or does it not matter so much because the ceramic needs to heat up?

    • @ianpaddick2003
      @ianpaddick2003 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They can be bad for the ceramic. You’re putting already very hot charcoal in cold ceramic and result in cracking.

    • @pdt8165
      @pdt8165 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Chimney starters aren't bad for the ceramics. Of course you can use one to speed up the process. Get some butcher paper, spread a little food-grade cooking oil on it, wad it under the chimney, and you are off to the races.

  • @j777
    @j777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes. I use my MAP pro torch and my heat gun. If you're going for inferno, I used to have a 6 inch pipe that I would stick on top to increase air flow.

  • @CrashperM
    @CrashperM ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this vid! I have sometimes genuinely waited more than an hour for the kamado to heat up one a cold windy day with bad fire starters

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      try the hair blower if that happens again, you can even direct the air in the bottom vent with the dome closed to speed it up if there is a small fire going

  • @TylerNally
    @TylerNally ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting. I've often thought that stacking charcoal in a pyramid is the least efficient way to light charcoal. Instead, place the charcoal in an inverted cone shape with the tip down and light the charcoal tip with a long flamed starter.
    This way > 1 charcoal lights simultaneously with the flame kicking out heet radially and vertically to speed ignition to all charcoal.
    The grill gun has the superior advantage because it lights many pieces of charcoal at the same..

  • @jamesbell5793
    @jamesbell5793 ปีที่แล้ว

    I leave the lid up when I'm going to grill after lighting the fire. I find it heats up faster. I don't care about the heat of the dome. I also use a weed torch (much much cheaper) and also the handheld one ChudsBBQ uses.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      yes any forced air will do the same if you don't want to steal your wife's hair blower lol

  • @leeleew7524
    @leeleew7524 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another factor is the grill prep time for cleaning out old charcoal and putting in new, probably another five minutes at least plus it's a somewhat messy job which is not required on propane, we still use the propane for quick stuff like brats or chicken thighs, still love my classic 2 and Joe Jr!

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I often clean them out the day after so they are ready to go

    • @leeleew7524
      @leeleew7524 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SmokingDadBBQ I usually get lazy and wait until I cook again then go " oh crap, I have to clean this thing out first" 😁

  • @charleyschaubroeck6301
    @charleyschaubroeck6301 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not sure if this question has been asked but I bought the gun and shipped it to Belgium (Europe). It cost me 50 EUR shipping costs and 62 EUR tax fees. Bad start. Then I found out that all gas bottles in Europe have a different fitting. I can find the Coleman propane bottle but it costs 22,90 EUR per bottle!! That’s crazy. I wonder if there are other Europeans who bought this toy and how they deal with this challenge. I just don’t see myself spending a fortune on gas bottles and I’m not a fan of adapters in combination with gas 😬

  • @stuward9226
    @stuward9226 ปีที่แล้ว

    My kamado joe has just arrived. So excited and driven by your videos and inspiration. Thanks for these great videos and your passion.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome! Thank you! And congrats on your joe

  • @RumandCook
    @RumandCook ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid, I converted to a Grill Gun as well, even though I didn't want to deal with a propane tank. Other options didn't work nearly as well. Wasted more money trying other things hah. 🍻

  • @brickhithouse1
    @brickhithouse1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video! I have a much cheaper torch. It probably cost around $30. After about a month the igniter on it broke. But I realized that I could use the fire starter and then use the torch. The fire starter ignites the torch, and then it works perfectly. admittedly, it’s a little janky, but it works great, and it was a great price. I just couldn’t pull the trigger, pun intended, on the gun. Lol but if I got one as a gift, I’m sure it would be one of my top tools.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      fire is fire, don't need to spend 2x more if you found one that works

  • @jonathanrath
    @jonathanrath ปีที่แล้ว

    Most economical may be large cotton balls kept in a jar of Isopropyl Rubbing Alcohol. Clean burn, and no aftertaste given by some of the chemical cubes. 3 or 4 cotton balls get the charcoal going quickly. I have the Walmart version of the Akorn Grill, and for the charcoal basket I sue a metal colander from the dollar store :) Hard to justify some of your accessories that cost more than the price of my "Expert Kamado Grill" I do have a propane torch, but the cotton balls work fine for me. - Love your channel!!

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      I am all down with economical options hence the hairdryer but this plan works great too

  • @Keith80027
    @Keith80027 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my SuVGun to start all kinds of fires in grills, smokes and camp fires. I started out with my plumbers torch and it works just find. It takes a little longer than a Grill gun but you get a lot of holes in your clothing because of the sparks. With the SuVGun, I stand far enough back that I am not getting sparks landing on my shirt. I high recommend the Grill Gun or SuVGun to start fires and to crust meats and deserts.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good points. The torch is too powerful for some things

  • @Hell4Gamers
    @Hell4Gamers 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use my paint stripper to stoke the coal. It's cheap because it's already in my tool kit.

  • @jgeorge5820
    @jgeorge5820 ปีที่แล้ว

    I start my kamado grill by using chimney starter with 1 starter cube on the bottom inside the fire basket, thus allow the grill to warm up also. Depending on what I am cooking, I can take it off after a couple of mins for smoker set up. If I want to grill then wait for the chimney starter to get all the charcoal lit and dump into the firebox.

  • @AnchorRoom1
    @AnchorRoom1 ปีที่แล้ว

    We love our SU-V gun - no doubt that you can be ready to cook in under 20 minutes - love it - I also use it to kill weeds in our driveway/ win-win.

  • @adamsonmj
    @adamsonmj ปีที่แล้ว

    Don’t forget to include the price of propane in the cost comparison. I still love my Grill Gun and no longer use starter cubes. I did spend $25 on a converter to refill the 1lb bottles from a 20lb tank. The 1lb bottles are just more convenient than the hose attachment for the Grill Gun

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      oh smart, i should look into that

  • @kenmitchell3784
    @kenmitchell3784 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BBQ is supposed to take time, if I am in a hurry I will just use the fry pan and a stove, but when you are retired you tend to have more time on hand

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      100%, and as you can tell we got rid of the propane as it just wasn't needed any more once you start adjusting your schedule to reality

  • @dres-bbq3569
    @dres-bbq3569 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice explanation, i use a propane torch my self gives the same result

  • @emmgeevideo
    @emmgeevideo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about a quick pro/con for the standard GrillGun vs. the smaller sous vide version. I bought the big one because I have a Big Joe and felt that the extra length was a good idea, but it's a big of a PITA to find a place to put it because of the long neck.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      the sous vide gun is what i took camping for this very reason... good idea, might try adding that into the video list
      its more fuel efficient, easier to store, better for searing a steak or finishing a dessert etc

  • @mattcook1257
    @mattcook1257 ปีที่แล้ว

    James, love the channel, love the content. I enjoy that you grill all year long in the northern region. I myself am in Minnesota, and grill all year long. I'm wondering if you've ever done a comparison between the Komodo and a regular kettle grill (I'm a Weber man). If not, would you consider doing such a video please. Are there advantages and disadvantages to both, especially in the northern climes? Keep up the great videos, and keep on smokin'.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      I did a few years back. Almost time for a refresh version but in the meantime - th-cam.com/video/EB8kzRRVk_s/w-d-xo.html

  • @user-ng9sv6rv6t
    @user-ng9sv6rv6t หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you find that using the grill blazer full blast makes a lot of sparks? I’m on a wooden deck!

  • @krijo210
    @krijo210 ปีที่แล้ว

    A hot air gun, e.g. LooftLighter or MonoLighter, would be a environmentally friendlier option. They are also cheaper to buy and don't need refilling.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i have owned several Looft lighters but at how often i use them burn them out in about a year recognizing i use mine a lot

  • @anthonyburas5818
    @anthonyburas5818 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At $10 a box for the fire starters, the propane torches pay for themselves eventually. I use one I picked up at a hardware store for $40.

  • @MKS8619
    @MKS8619 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think a portable mini (hand-held) fan probably works better than a hair dryer and easier to clean/dispose of when you get soot all over it.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha yes the spouse might not appreciate that

    • @GoSnapHop
      @GoSnapHop 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SmokingDadBBQ Speaking of fans I'm surprised you have not reviewed the BBQ Dragon fan. I use a cheaper $40 torch for a minute and then put the fan on the bottom intake with the top completely opened and it takes roughly 6 minutes on my classic to get to 400 on the dome with my classic Joe.

  • @terrencereiber30
    @terrencereiber30 ปีที่แล้ว

    Luv my G😁rill Blazer Grill gun. Fire lit in 30 - 45 seconds and Kamado is hot and ready to go in 30 minutes.

  • @ramonvazquez_rei
    @ramonvazquez_rei ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tip about dome heat 👍

  • @mleukus
    @mleukus ปีที่แล้ว

    i use the harbor freight propane torch - was like $25 and does the same thing....

  • @stevenscarborough6221
    @stevenscarborough6221 ปีที่แล้ว

    You could use two or three fire starters spread out and put some charcoal on top of them.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For sure but that starts to get pricey but yes for speed it helps

  • @user-yr2mx9mn1j
    @user-yr2mx9mn1j ปีที่แล้ว

    Buy a cheap pain stripper ;). Its a good budget option but not half as cool and fun as that 100x overkill torch that we all really NEED!! 😅😂

  • @marineassassin9213
    @marineassassin9213 ปีที่แล้ว

    The gas has gotten too expensive, unfortunately. For starting an Amaze-N-Smoker pellet cold smoker 3 row tray, I just use the el cheapo plumbers propane torch - plus a 3/8" wide strip of the lighter board material by the light hole. Must let it burn for 10 min as the instructions say, for a good light. Just uses your normal wood pellets. 3 hours per row, fill all 3 rows, about 10 hours total cold smoke with the corners and all. When lighting put in a place or Brinkman smoker with the lid off so it doesn't blow out if windy.

  • @lazydog274
    @lazydog274 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cost I see is grill blazer $170. And joe starter cubes $13
    Grill blazer gives 10 starts ( ? ). Joe cubes 8 start ( I would use 3 pieces for fast n hot ). (24/3=8 starts)
    Or 1 full round. $170 / 10 = 17 dollars. But with just propane purchased future is cost saving of 10 / $13 = $1.30
    While fire starters would stay a constant $13/8= $1.62 per start with 3 pieces used

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for crunching the numbers

    • @lazydog274
      @lazydog274 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SmokingDadBBQ have no clue how many times the propane does a charcoal light up. Picked 10

    • @Pieeeeeee
      @Pieeeeeee ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those are pretty expensive cubes (0.54/cube?). I have a box of 1344 cubes for 20 euro. that's €0.014/cube. I only use 1 fire starter to lit the kamado, so that's €0.014 vs $1.3 (considering euro and dollar is the same).

  • @romeomontague2309
    @romeomontague2309 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looflighter works for me I got it for $60..

  • @torienelson3022
    @torienelson3022 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use a looflighter. It does the trick for me

  • @MegaAaron42
    @MegaAaron42 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about the age old chimney carcoal starting method? Or does this not work with a Joe cooker?

    • @user-ng9sv6rv6t
      @user-ng9sv6rv6t หลายเดือนก่อน

      Chimney would work too. I have a big Joe and the basket is huge. A chimney wouldn’t put a dent in it

  • @backyardbbqusa
    @backyardbbqusa ปีที่แล้ว

    Good test but figured the gun would beat the clock. Note I will use 2 or more fire starters to speed up the process.

  • @mrhappy9911
    @mrhappy9911 ปีที่แล้ว

    which one is best to go with the Su-V or the grill gun? I will be using it mainly for lighting charcoal but will also be using it to sear fairly frequently

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      The damper on the sv is better for searing. The long handle is better for fire pits, offsets etc

  • @bmckenzie69
    @bmckenzie69 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting test. I generally have 350 within 15 minutes msybe 20 minutes using starters. I generally use 2 starters though.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      two starters will definitely make it faster

  • @fretless05
    @fretless05 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd be curious to see the difference between the GrillGun and the hair dryer method. In both cases, you're moving a lot of air and heat through the charcoal bed, so I'd guess that be a lot closer. It seems the small starter really had to go a long time to catch the charcoal and get the fire to spread a bit through the bed.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think they would be near identical

    • @evanjeffrey9677
      @evanjeffrey9677 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldn't prefer to use a hair dryer blowing in the top like that just because I would be worried about melting the plastic body. But what I have done that works incredibly quickly is to use a fan to blow cold air in the bottom vent. This works great because you are also establishing the same convection you want when operating, and you can leave the dome closed to heat the ceramic as you go to start heating the ceramic. I have a fireboard grill controller that I never use for temperature regulation any more but clips into the bottom vent so I can just hook it up and walk away for 5-10 minutes. The whole temperature control kit is even more expensive than the grill gun, but for starting just a fan will work as well and probably a hair dryer blowing hot air in the bottom would work even faster. The nice thing about hot air is you don't go through propane cylinders. I had a cheap high BTU torch for lighting, and it worked fine but used a crazy amount of propane so I was always running out. I still use a standard propane torch to start the fire, but just enough to light one or two chunks and the cylinders last a long time.

    • @robertmeyer6867
      @robertmeyer6867 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hook up to the exhaust of a shop vac. Gets things very hot very fast.

  • @BrianMiller1973
    @BrianMiller1973 ปีที่แล้ว

    The sparking that the torches give is a no go for me. Anymore, for quick weeknight cooks I just use my Weber kettle.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      there are a lot of sparks with forced air or torches that you don't get with a cube

  • @gbouley1
    @gbouley1 ปีที่แล้ว

    🙌Great video. I always wanted to know if it was worthwhile to spend. Still need to think about it. While I only use my smoker for ribs and pulled pork and use a charcoal chimney I have been debating to move towards something like a kamato grill. Cost is an issue. Like the channel. Keep up good work 👍

  • @btube2022
    @btube2022 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see you have a smaller version in the background, how do you find that? Can’t get the long version in the U.K.

  • @medic7578
    @medic7578 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I could only buy one should it be the grill gun or su-v grill gun only really using it to start my kj

  • @unkindguy88
    @unkindguy88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    chimney starter vs grill gun

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just don’t like the chimney in winter for dropping 1100f coals into cold ceramics

  • @Vusace777
    @Vusace777 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought low and slow was 225F? Can anyone help? I been coooking meat at 225 for low and slow?

  • @RosePigCooking
    @RosePigCooking ปีที่แล้ว

    How long does the propane tank on the grill gun last? You said you hold the flame when lighting the coals for 1 full minute?

  • @briandaffern5108
    @briandaffern5108 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question James. I bought a propane torch at the beginning of summer and it's great, but should I use it on a Kamado in the dead of winter? The gentler heat build up form a fire starter wouldn't shock the ceramic like the instant start of a torch, or this isn't an issue.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      I do. I just get the coals going and let it warm up gradually. Never had an issue. That is still more gentle than dumping an entire chimney of coals in cold ceramic

    • @briandaffern5108
      @briandaffern5108 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SmokingDadBBQ a chimney full would definitely be a shock to the ceramic.
      That's good, I hate winter and the less mucking about outside the better.

  • @derrelferguson4594
    @derrelferguson4594 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m getting my own hair dryer!😊

  • @johnknapp6328
    @johnknapp6328 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I'm part piromaniac, I like the starter cubes myself, When I'm grilling I'm never in a rush. I never understand the race. Another channel showed demo with electric elimate igniter, a local retailer has them for 12.85, drawback you need an extention cord to use. Another curiosity I have after watching this video, do you think the weber summit charcoal has same radiant heat in lid towards food that the kamato joe has. I like all the products but I'm sold on small square fire starters.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      I am trying to find one for some head to head in spring

  • @metoo3918
    @metoo3918 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the Grill Gun still have the safety valve issue you didn't like 2years ago?

  • @nickholtzclaw1
    @nickholtzclaw1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use the Kamado Joe electric starter in my Big Joe 2. So far it works great and I get to temp in around 15 minutes. What are you thoughts on the electric starter?

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they work, some charcoal doesn't work as well with the Looft lighter like JD as KJ as they are large pieces and more dense and the hot air had a hard time getting them started, but once they were going it was fine

  • @rayfaragher817
    @rayfaragher817 ปีที่แล้ว

    great info

  • @billfreeman685
    @billfreeman685 ปีที่แล้ว

    Using the Torch you are igniting a larger surface area ( compared to the "one starter) that in itself is not a fair assessment.
    I personally use paper towels soaked in vegetable oil. I'll put them in the ash pan. If I want more heat faster, I'll put soaked paper towels in the charcoal and the ash pan.
    But there are time. the I wish I had a torch. Lol I really injoy your channel. Keep up the great work.

  • @user-yr2mx9mn1j
    @user-yr2mx9mn1j ปีที่แล้ว

    250 in the Netherlands. Pf ff ff😓
    Way to expensive

  • @krayzenvy
    @krayzenvy ปีที่แล้ว

    How long will a propane tank last? As in, how many starts at 1 min is the average? I wouldn't want to be refilling the tank after 5 starts for ex. :) Thank you in advance.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      I get a few weeks out of one so it’s more than 5 but less than 20

  • @Jeffdoeswhat
    @Jeffdoeswhat ปีที่แล้ว

    In that time frame could already have some food ready.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i am ok with 15min, 40 is getting long for sure

  • @Raymond-sj7cn
    @Raymond-sj7cn ปีที่แล้ว

    Everytime I see you with the grill blazer gun you look like a young boy in the toyshop 😃Men stay boys with toys😜

  • @GopherM
    @GopherM ปีที่แล้ว

    I use an electric heat gun I bought from Harbor Freight for about $20.

  • @toxo4ka
    @toxo4ka ปีที่แล้ว

    Doesn't that blazer gun spikes affect your grill gasket? I myself prefer a "calm method" because of this. BTW, really enjoying your videos and learned A LOT from you, can't thank you enough. But I am on the team green so far )

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing wrong with team green. Cheers

  • @DiceRunner20032001
    @DiceRunner20032001 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like my Wagner heat gun. Cheap and effective.

  • @dustincartee9474
    @dustincartee9474 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this safe for ceramic grills like kamadoes? Just always heard to not use any type of chemical

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The firestarter is all natural made by KJ for the KJ so its fine, its lighter fluid you don't want to use. the grill gun burns clean and is safe to sear a steak with so no issue either

    • @dustincartee9474
      @dustincartee9474 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SmokingDadBBQ thank you for your response! Ordered one today!

  • @derekhuber1255
    @derekhuber1255 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just watched your video comparing the Grill Gun to the other methods of starting charcoal. I believe that I may invest in one. I just have a question about the size. They are both the same price and I have a KJ Classic III. Do I need the larger Grill Gun or would I be good with the smaller one? Thx.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The smaller one is better for cooking, searing and camping etc. it’s also more fuel efficient. The big one gives more distance for sparks and is better for fire pits etc

  • @kevinrutledge9602
    @kevinrutledge9602 ปีที่แล้ว

    My grillgun stopped igniting. Not sure if I can replace the white igniter or if I need to do other maintenance.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      email them to see whats involved, they do have a repair kit but not sure what issues that addresses

  • @davidblackstock9489
    @davidblackstock9489 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you tried using double heat plates? I just purchased a classic one and don't have the SloRoller, Is it worth me getting one?

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      its really close between them - th-cam.com/video/0yXnjW9kEfY/w-d-xo.html
      If you do, this is how i set up in my older series 1 - th-cam.com/video/xO8AjvUZvCc/w-d-xo.html

  • @TheRssr1979
    @TheRssr1979 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. Been wanting to get a grill gun, but the price point especially with dollar conversion makes me hesitant.

    • @chrisb8595
      @chrisb8595 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There are much cheaper alternatives on Amazon, that is what I did.

    • @whitestarleather
      @whitestarleather ปีที่แล้ว

      Alternative and cheaper - ebay weed gun with regulator £20 then the price of a gas bottle £17…

    • @TheRssr1979
      @TheRssr1979 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisb8595 ok 👍. You mind sending me the link of the one tou bought?
      Thanks

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      There are some weed torches at hw stores too for less money

  • @jasoneyles7613
    @jasoneyles7613 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish we could buy grill guns in Australia, I would use my Kamado so much more if I could light it quickly :(

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      local hw stores might have some less expensive torch options

  • @katzsteel
    @katzsteel ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not a Weber chimney starter and cubes? Takes about 10 minutes to pour for lump. I would think most people do it this way.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only for winter I don’t like dropping hot coals in cold ceramic

    • @katzsteel
      @katzsteel ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SmokingDadBBQ Gotcha! I don’t own a Komodo but good to know that would be a problem in the winter. Don’t plan on buying one ever, but ya never know.

    • @AbrahamCollins1786
      @AbrahamCollins1786 ปีที่แล้ว

      James, if you take the plastic handle off of the chimney, you can light it inside of your kamado.

  • @kenmills7075
    @kenmills7075 ปีที่แล้ว

    Appreciate all the info. I was looking for one of your latest videos. To ask you a question. If you had to choose between the Kamado Joe big Joe and your offset smoker which one would you choose. Thanks in advance

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      oh gosh... the offset hands down is making the best backyard BBQ ribs, pork, brisket etc. BUT it comes with being tied to it all day adding wood (which i enjoy the experience) but at this stage in life i can't commit the entire day to just cooking with a young family (kids) so the convenience of the KJ to make something pretty good and be able to be gone all day is pretty handy.
      if you want the best possible backyard result get an offset, if you want good bbq that your friends and family or anyone outside of knowing what authentic texas bbq tastes like while being able to be free for the day get the kj

    • @kenmills7075
      @kenmills7075 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SmokingDadBBQ Thanks James, I have the GEN two on order from Mike. I also own the weber summit so that will allow me to do a lot of the things that Kamado Joe does. And I own the green egg and the mini Max lol. I know it’s a problem. As long as my wife doesn’t sell all of it when I die for what I told her I paid for it will be good. Lol.God Bless

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kenmills7075 I like mine so much I am considering upgrading to the Gen 2 when it comes out

  • @Markisflippinsweet
    @Markisflippinsweet ปีที่แล้ว

    What about a charcoal chimney?

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      works great, just dont use it in winter when ceramics are sub freezing and you want to dump coals burning at 1100f into it

  • @lakorai2
    @lakorai2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There has got to be a more affordable version of the grill blazer. $175 is a ripoff

  • @SmokeyMesa
    @SmokeyMesa ปีที่แล้ว

    I admit my loof lighter is pretty slow, but the shower of sparks when you used that grill blazer looked a little scarey.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      different charcoal reacts differently. KJ and JD dont spark as much, family doesn't like the taste as much but they aren't the ones lighting the grill lol ....
      when not doing a timed race i hit the coals and let off once they start to spark and repeat in bursts and this doesn't happen vs. continuing to blast them

  • @GoldenJoe
    @GoldenJoe ปีที่แล้ว

    Recently, I started having a lot of trouble getting my Jr heated up...the charcoal doesn't seem to be lighting well, even when I hit it with a torch like this. I usually keep it in the bag outside under the porch, I'm thinking maybe moisture has gotten to it? Any other ideas?

  • @derekhowes9478
    @derekhowes9478 ปีที่แล้ว

    Off topic question. BBQ stores in both Toronto and Ottawa offering exceptional deals on Kamado Joes in their Black Friday sales - so much so that I am wondering if they are clearing stock for new models in the Spring. Any rumours about something like this?

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  ปีที่แล้ว

      i haven't heard, but black friday sales have been happening the past couple years so i think thats normal... and the supply was really bad during covid so maybe some stores got caught up with more inventory than they want to hold over winter and are freeing up the cash they used to buy them?

  • @absoz
    @absoz ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great educational vid - I see young Al who recently visited you also loves his little friend too
    I couldn’t justify the price here in Australia - my 6yr old Weber q3200 gasser is up over 400F easily in under 10 - though if doing a proper cook will use my SmokeFire instead so no starter needed. It’s pretty quick too. Of course that doesn’t need help as it has a good blower to get the pellets burning hot pretty quickly
    Did have a kettle and WSM for a while, so am aware of how sometimes there’s a bit of a wait - but pain from old sporting injuries ruled out continued use of those 😢 which fortunately the WSF doesn’t inflict (no leaning over adjusting vents etc) but still get a decent smoke flavouring from
    Good to get a glimpse of other family members 😂😂

  • @jrcjr65
    @jrcjr65 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use the electric starter. Works well.