Pretty sure Perofeta would have priority over Plummer, given he's already in the main squad, and unlikely to play Fullback. Cane also doesnt have the same impact off the bench, he's at his best when starting.
That’s true first game since beating SA in may, but all players have been playing every week for the last 6 weeks. Will be tight game and I think the best team will win just hope it’s Ireland.
@@davidwalker2402 Irish Supporter. Aye, but the level they've been playing at is a way away from Test level. Similar t' SH Super Rugby compared to AB Test rugby🏴☠☘
like and agree with the forwards choices. You and I have both been pressing for the move to 8 by Sititi and Savea to 7. Sotutu at 6 would certainly add some dynamism to the loosies. Tuipulotu and Kane 2nd half impact. We are going to continue to disagree on the backs. Cam and DMac on impact duty with Cortez at 9 and the Plummer fixing the leaks at 10. (it has to happen sometime. Why not when Beauden is dinged?) ALB at 12 with Tele's at 13. Clark at 11 Jordan at 14 and Jordie Barrett at 15. (it's worked before) This may seem like out of the box thinking, well actually I have thrown the box AWAY. It certainly would be a shock to Andy Farrell and make him have to deal with some real adjustments. Ruben Love as the 23 to complete the impact crew which stacks up as a very dominant force. Speed, power, and guile injected off the pine in the second half!
Your comment about Jordan getting caught out of position at FB is spot on. He lacks on defencive awareness, and relies on his pace to get him out of trouble. Should he still be on wing?🤔
@@russsadler2727 same could be said about Reiko lacks any skills a centre requires but fully relies on pace to defend. Jordan is far better at fullback than Beauden and scores most of the all blacks tries. While I agree he lacks on other things he’s the best we got at the moment.
@@rogey4084 agreed I mean our centres are a shambles our 1st five is not world class. Our wingers aren’t that bad but rarely see the ball with Jordy and Reiko on the field. This ABs team are so far from being world beaters at the moment. Hopefully Robertson starts playing players in their natural positions and get some actual midfielders.
He’s had 2 games this year against lower ranked teams and didn’t do anything outstanding. He did have moments but didn’t stamp his name in those games so putting him in for arguably our biggest game of the season would be a terrible decision
@ lower ranked? Fiji is higher than Australia and he was outstanding. Japan he made 13 tackles missing only 3 but contributed 15 points. When has Reiko put up any of those kind of numbers at centre? Reiko made only 11 metres with 2 knock ons and bombed a certain try against England can it get worse than that?
@@Scrotomusdon't play stupid now. U know damn well fiji is lower ranked. I mean there recent match speaks for it self.. and rieko is a defensive master which is why he stays.. not to mention most experienced 13. I agree tho his attacking game is pretty bland. He doesn't move like a narawa
Great selections, but the obvious issue is no test experienced center cover with both Plumber and Love, and Perofeta covers both 10/15 with more test experience.
Uff... bench looking weak. I hope this is not the team. I can't find any information about Vaai being injured. I would definitely start Vaai with Barrett. And I would continue to start Ratima. He's Waikato half back, much more in sync with DMac which hopefully helps our 10 better manage the game. Dropping Williams: too harsh. He is the future. He needs this exposure on the big stage against the best teams to grow. Tosi, Williams, Roigard, Tuipolotu: that's some terrifying impact from your bench to see through the all defining last quarter of the game. Add Finau and Love... starting to look nice! Let Cane do the hard yards early. Let the less experienced Finau come in hungry and prove he can step up.
Gotta use the players original named in the squad man, can't be bringing outside players into 23 whenever there's an injury. Like imagine being in the original squad, then there's an injury, you could fill in that spot but you're replaced by an outside player. That'll be stink as! Use players in original touring squad. Like why isn't Stephen Perofeta considered? Smh 🤦♂️ he was IN the squad
Totally disagree with Cane on the bench... he a starter with his stoic get the job done attitude... but he lacks speed or vision to be considered an 'impact player'
@@icefarrow7959 I thought maybe he might have to face the Judiciary due to the red card? He probably got the 2nd yellow due to the head knock or the first yellow, anyway, I think he needs to take the week off . . .
I don't get this thinking: Put Tele'a on the wing where he's been playing all season and they see success. But keep on insisting Ardie plays 7, though he's been playing 8 for 3-4 yrs and won World Player of the Year in that position.
@TheKiwiLads then have MacKenzie and Jordie compete for fullback? Reiko on the wing? And I think 4 years as an 8 plus World Player of the Year is enough time to bed into a position...
The examples you have given are actually ones a lot of people have been asking for 😂 The amount of comments I get about putting Reiko back on the wing are pretty high. Rather than debating about Savea though, I’ll ask this instead. Who’s your 7 for 2025 with no Sam Cane?
@TheKiwiLads Dalton Papalii, or with more tests under his belt, Lakai. Hear me out: in terms of roles, a 7 or 8 are very similar in terms of getting to the breakdown. The 8s role has also been to run from the scrum base or linking out wide, both of which suit Ardie better. He's a natural ball carrier. If you look at our best backrow, imho McCaw, Kaino and Read, who was the most natural ball carrier? Read by a country mile. Even McCaw stated a 7s role had changed. Sititi is playing really well at 6, both in defense and offense. My argument is: put either the guy who has been the 7 understudy for 30 tests or Supers in-form 7, eventually.
As I predicted, ABs would beat England. England were Test cold, since July. Same for us. France even colder, for Test exposure; no Tests since the 6 Nations in March! All Blacks have played 11 Tests since July, so they have a huge advantage: irrefutable fact.... But Ireland will do the best we can and hopefully give the ABs a decent Test fer the craic o 'it 😉🏴☠☘
Thats the problem with picking the same players all the time the others dont get a chance so when they do get a chance they are rusty not playing enough.Personally i wouldnt have Ofa hes been in the AB side for a while but hasnt really set the world on fire neither has Cane better to give the younger guys a go Cane is leaving after this tour so whats the use picking him its not like hes Richie McCaw only half the man McCaw was
@@zachariatekawaare4761no rationale just delusion he thinks Ireland will put up a record score against NZ dispite losing to NZ and England the last time 😂
Change the centres the crash bash twins are not up to test rugby, maybe jordy to centre but reiko has to go, I think Fozzie 2 has done well as his predecessor both copless out of their league, forwards good inside backs shite.
Just before the 74th minute when the All Blacks were on attack. There were numbers on the outside including Telea right on the touch line and England were scrambling but Rieko took contact. It’s okay that you missed it 👍
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Pretty sure Perofeta would have priority over Plummer, given he's already in the main squad, and unlikely to play Fullback. Cane also doesnt have the same impact off the bench, he's at his best when starting.
Agree with Perofeta he should have been given game time last year under Fozzy he can cover 10/15
Your good
NZ by a score , Ireland going into this and havent played a game yet . Should be a good match though
That’s true first game since beating SA in may, but all players have been playing every week for the last 6 weeks. Will be tight game and I think the best team will win just hope it’s Ireland.
July @@davidwalker2402
@@davidwalker2402 Irish Supporter. Aye, but the level they've been playing at is a way away from Test level. Similar t' SH Super Rugby compared to AB Test rugby🏴☠☘
Really looking forward to this
This is why other players need more minutes, Taylor goes down and we’re putting an undercooked Aumua in
CANT WAIT
like and agree with the forwards choices. You and I have both been pressing for the move to 8 by Sititi and Savea to 7. Sotutu at 6 would certainly add some dynamism to the loosies. Tuipulotu and Kane 2nd half impact.
We are going to continue to disagree on the backs. Cam and DMac on impact duty with Cortez at 9 and the Plummer fixing the leaks at 10. (it has to happen sometime. Why not when Beauden is dinged?) ALB at 12 with Tele's at 13. Clark at 11 Jordan at 14 and Jordie Barrett at 15. (it's worked before) This may seem like out of the box thinking, well actually I have thrown the box AWAY. It certainly would be a shock to Andy Farrell and make him have to deal with some real adjustments. Ruben Love as the 23 to complete the impact crew which stacks up as a very dominant force. Speed, power, and guile injected off the pine in the second half!
Your comment about Jordan getting caught out of position at FB is spot on. He lacks on defencive awareness, and relies on his pace to get him out of trouble. Should he still be on wing?🤔
You are spot on, he's a right wing, not a full back.
@@russsadler2727 same could be said about Reiko lacks any skills a centre requires but fully relies on pace to defend. Jordan is far better at fullback than Beauden and scores most of the all blacks tries. While I agree he lacks on other things he’s the best we got at the moment.
Could say the same about telea then awful defensive player
@@rogey4084 agreed I mean our centres are a shambles our 1st five is not world class. Our wingers aren’t that bad but rarely see the ball with Jordy and Reiko on the field. This ABs team are so far from being world beaters at the moment. Hopefully Robertson starts playing players in their natural positions and get some actual midfielders.
@@rogey4084 I could but then I wouldn't be picking up on commentators comment, also Telea doesn't play FB.
I love your loose forward trio
It is absolutely criminal that Billy Proctor hasn’t been given more time in the 13 jersey.
He’s had 2 games this year against lower ranked teams and didn’t do anything outstanding. He did have moments but didn’t stamp his name in those games so putting him in for arguably our biggest game of the season would be a terrible decision
@ lower ranked? Fiji is higher than Australia and he was outstanding. Japan he made 13 tackles missing only 3 but contributed 15 points. When has Reiko put up any of those kind of numbers at centre? Reiko made only 11 metres with 2 knock ons and bombed a certain try against England can it get worse than that?
Yea put Reiko on sevu wing
@@Scrotomusdon't play stupid now. U know damn well fiji is lower ranked. I mean there recent match speaks for it self.. and rieko is a defensive master which is why he stays.. not to mention most experienced 13. I agree tho his attacking game is pretty bland. He doesn't move like a narawa
He's had game time but he's come home for the birth of his baby. Not sure if he'll come for Italy game.
Great selections, but the obvious issue is no test experienced center cover with both Plumber and Love, and Perofeta covers both 10/15 with more test experience.
Razor will certainly start with Sititi 6, Sam Cane 7, and Ardie at 8. No need for change.
Uff... bench looking weak. I hope this is not the team. I can't find any information about Vaai being injured. I would definitely start Vaai with Barrett. And I would continue to start Ratima. He's Waikato half back, much more in sync with DMac which hopefully helps our 10 better manage the game. Dropping Williams: too harsh. He is the future. He needs this exposure on the big stage against the best teams to grow. Tosi, Williams, Roigard, Tuipolotu: that's some terrifying impact from your bench to see through the all defining last quarter of the game. Add Finau and Love... starting to look nice! Let Cane do the hard yards early. Let the less experienced Finau come in hungry and prove he can step up.
Ratama plays terrible against the top teams so I can only
Imagine what Ireland will do to him. Start Roigard for sure
Gotta use the players original named in the squad man, can't be bringing outside players into 23 whenever there's an injury. Like imagine being in the original squad, then there's an injury, you could fill in that spot but you're replaced by an outside player. That'll be stink as! Use players in original touring squad. Like why isn't Stephen Perofeta considered? Smh 🤦♂️ he was IN the squad
6. Wallace Sititi
7. Sam Cane
8. Ardie Sevea
20. Semipeni Finau
22. ALB
23. Stephen Perofeta
Finau, Satiti and Savea 😬🥵
That bench is fun but will not even be close
Totally disagree with Cane on the bench... he a starter with his stoic get the job done attitude... but he lacks speed or vision to be considered an 'impact player'
Is ALB unavailable due to his cards problem v England?
No, he's available as far as we know. Don't know if that head knock resulted in an HIA test or anything though.
@@icefarrow7959 I thought maybe he might have to face the
Judiciary due to the red card? He probably got the 2nd yellow due to the head knock or the first yellow, anyway, I think he needs to take the week off . . .
@@julianbristow34662nd yellow was actually cancelled out by the first one (quirk of the laws).
I would put Bell can’t afford miss lineout with the Irish. And keep Tuipolotu coming off Bench..if Vaii is able to go
Ireland are a pressure/territory side. Play in there half and there game plan fades away
Easy to say, not to do
Ireland are okay if they are leading but if they are chasing not so good.
@@Trajan2401 The second test against the Boks this summer would suggest otherwise.
@@Trajan2401 so many examples where you’re wrong. Maybe go watch some games
@@Trajan2401 Like when they were, "chasing the game" and yet managed to beat the Boks in their last Test against them?
Why was Tupu Vai subbed off so early?
Injured
good selections but not a strong bench - that may prove problematic in the final 20...
Would be interesting to see sititi giving ago at midfield aswell
@@troymomma I was just thinking that
I don't get this thinking:
Put Tele'a on the wing where he's been playing all season and they see success.
But keep on insisting Ardie plays 7, though he's been playing 8 for 3-4 yrs and won World Player of the Year in that position.
Maybe it’s time to put Ardie back to his original position too 😂
@TheKiwiLads then have MacKenzie and Jordie compete for fullback? Reiko on the wing?
And I think 4 years as an 8 plus World Player of the Year is enough time to bed into a position...
The examples you have given are actually ones a lot of people have been asking for 😂 The amount of comments I get about putting Reiko back on the wing are pretty high. Rather than debating about Savea though, I’ll ask this instead. Who’s your 7 for 2025 with no Sam Cane?
@TheKiwiLads Dalton Papalii, or with more tests under his belt, Lakai.
Hear me out: in terms of roles, a 7 or 8 are very similar in terms of getting to the breakdown. The 8s role has also been to run from the scrum base or linking out wide, both of which suit Ardie better. He's a natural ball carrier. If you look at our best backrow, imho McCaw, Kaino and Read, who was the most natural ball carrier? Read by a country mile. Even McCaw stated a 7s role had changed. Sititi is playing really well at 6, both in defense and offense.
My argument is: put either the guy who has been the 7 understudy for 30 tests or Supers in-form 7, eventually.
Finally our bench does well and the first thing we do is destroy it😂
Every game we've lost in the last 20, except for when we had a strong bench
De Groot will be on the bench, not just walking back into the starting team after a discipline issue
He's our premier scrummager, no way he gets benched.
@icefarrow7959 don't think he's miles better than Williams, and maybe if he's better that would do the bench good
Telea came straight back in when he played up.
As I predicted, ABs would beat England. England were Test cold, since July. Same for us. France even colder, for Test exposure; no Tests since the 6 Nations in March! All Blacks have played 11 Tests since July, so they have a huge advantage: irrefutable fact.... But Ireland will do the best we can and hopefully give the ABs a decent Test fer the craic o 'it 😉🏴☠☘
Razor should put perofita at interchange 1st five
lol I did'nt even know what George Bell looks like but yeah, we gotta back him now, did'nt select himself.
There needs to be a big emphasis on discipline, we simply cant afford last weeks penalty count against Ireland.
Cant help it when the officials focus more on NZ than anyone else.
Finau starting at 6 has to be a piss take
Like I said in the video, they aren’t going to do it as it’s pretty set that it will be the three from last week 👍
@ I just don’t think he’s been that good. He made nice tackles against Japan but in the other games he’s played he’s done nothing
He has lacked consistency unfortunately 👍
Its gonna be a tough ask in dublin but lessgo all blacks
Thats the problem with picking the same players all the time the others dont get a chance so when they do get a chance they are rusty not playing enough.Personally i wouldnt have Ofa hes been in the AB side for a while but hasnt really set the world on fire neither has Cane better to give the younger guys a go Cane is leaving after this tour so whats the use picking him its not like hes Richie McCaw only half the man McCaw was
Ireland by 15.
Loooool. I like the confidence. Misplaced, but admirably bold. 🫡 😅 15 pts!! 😂😮😢😅 That would suggest the ABs bring their surrender luggage game! Naaah!
I’d like to see your rationale for that one.
Ireland arent that great 😂 they lost to NZ and England the last time 🤣.
@@zachariatekawaare4761no rationale just delusion he thinks Ireland will put up a record score against NZ dispite losing to NZ and England the last time 😂
Change the centres the crash bash twins are not up to test rugby, maybe jordy to centre but reiko has to go, I think Fozzie 2 has done well as his predecessor both copless out of their league, forwards good inside backs shite.
I'd have Perofeta on the bench instead of Plummer or Love.
ME 2 BROTHER ME 2
No wayy.. Love
Can you tell where Reiko butchered a try? I mustve missed it, Q tupea 🙄 AJ Lamb what you smoking dude? haha seriously💨
... We are speaking about Ireland yes? 😂 dude give that shit up💨
Just before the 74th minute when the All Blacks were on attack. There were numbers on the outside including Telea right on the touch line and England were scrambling but Rieko took contact. It’s okay that you missed it 👍
When NZ went woke they lost their rugby team . Still quite good though . C’mon Ireland .
in what way?
Elaborate plz.
Silence....
Ya won't have Sexton acting up like a condom.
Didn't realise the circus had come to town 🤔
Doesn't matter win or lose give the newbie a go cause if yu don't put them in how are they going to get experience and game time.
True its not like all the players have set the world on fire some shouldnt even be there and are only there because of reputation and favouritism
We're only playing with 1 player dmac thinks he's the only player good enough and the all blacks aren't worth watching when Mc Kenzie takes the field