Machine gun or firearm toy? Bump stock creator speaks out before Supreme Court case
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- ABC News' Devin Dwyer talks exclusively with the creator of the bump stock, who is defending his invention after it was banned by the Trump administration in 2018 for it's role in mass shootings.
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Wait until they find out what someone can do with a file and drill press.
Shut up, Marv...
You don’t even have to do all that.
It’s not difficult to make your own Lightning link if you want full auto.
Hell you can even bend up a coat hanger just right and have a drop in device that can be installed or removed in seconds without altering the gun in any way.
I wouldn’t recommend it of course, just something I saw on TH-cam 😂
@@DarthUr-zd2hpDamn assault coat hangers!
@@DarthUr-zd2hpright! I’ve been told it only takes about 30 mins to make.
@@ryanw2553they must be banned… the coat hangers of course
He said driving 180 in a sports car is fun too but not allowed. But did they ban the sale of those cars?
oh!
Correct! And you can take a sports car to a private race track or private land and still go 180 mph. The government doesn't prevent you from owning and enjoying a sports car just because it can go fast. So, his analogy sucks!
That may have been a counter argument cut out of the segment.
If people were killing 50 people at a time with them then yes we should look at banning 180mph cars. they have no utility just like the bump stock. When people cant go to a concert without the threat of being killed then the killing product should be banned in the interest of public safety.
I agree. Concerts should be banned. So should cities where mom and dad gamble away the kid's food money.@@mro4440
It's amazing how many people die from alcohol every day in the U.S but nothing is said about that.alcohol isn't written into the U.S constitution either.
Wrong. There are many regulations on alcohol. More so than firearms.
Have you heard of anyone using alcohol in mass murder of our children?
@@leagarner3675mass murder by alcohol is always advertised or claimed in the media and by organizations like MADD. Thousands of deaths a year is a mass murder.
@@monotech20.14the point is alcohol is deadly directly and indirectly. Yet the alcohol is not banned. The same should be with bump stocks.
@@monotech20.14 No you are incredibly wrong. There are far more restrictions on guns than alcohol.
"so the bumpstock let's you fire faster, more accurately"
..."more accurately "???
...idiots.
Yep, these are urinalists pushing the narrative.
I used to have one for shits and giggles. Used it a few times and found it to be useless. Turned my precision AR into an inaccurate bullet-wasting garbage rod.
Journalists are just breathing op-eds
thats why as soon as people started putting space between each other at the LV show he was no longer hitting people. it was only effective with everyone in a tin can, especially from the distance he was if you believe the 3 letter agencies that is. Theres still never been any proof that disproves him as some sort of an agent with all the firepower and access he had. And they use this as ammo against Trump. Trump doesn't know about guns that's why he always had experts around him. he just chose the experts poorly. Its not a gotchya against Trump imo.
more accurately than bump firing otherwise and more accurate than many fully automatic rifles
People that know how to use guns know that you don’t use a bump stock to be a better shooter.
But you use it to have fun!
glock 18cs and mac 10s are notoriously inaccurate, yet they are the weapon of choice for gangs that can afford them to kill large amounts of rivals. Spray and pray works better in real life than it does in video games.
@@zakazan8561no way you just said that. The only time I've ever seen a switch work is when he was standing over top of the guy. Those MFS can't shoot and the people who can can't even really control that
@@LoveableLincoln32🤡🤡
@@zakazan8561you gotta be 11 years old or something coming up with that bs
On December 29, 1890, hundreds of U.S. troops surrounded a Lakota camp and opened fire, killing more than 300 Lakota women, men, and children in a violent massacre.
Las Vegas was not the biggest mass shooting in the United States.
THIS.
Go back to 1863 and read about the Bear River Massacre of 350 slaughtered by the military
its worth to mention that they did this after they were disarmed by the government, NEVER FORGET 2A IS FOR EVERY RACE EVERY PEOPLE IT A HUMAN RIGHT.......
trump for JAIL 2024
@@ker4allObly in your crack daddy bidenfuhrer delusions.
It is not about the product, it is about the ATF overstepping their authority. The product does not violate the law. If you truly wanted to ban the product then it needs to be done with Congress, not by the ATF.
Congress has no lawful power to hinder or destroy our right to arms and is bound by the COTUS like every other branch/officer of government.
We’ll…see, it wasn’t done by the ATF. It was done by Trump.
Bump stocks and binary triggers were banned by Congress *and Trump signed it in 2018* ...what rock have you been living under?
Yep. ATF can only enforce laws passed by Congress, not make it up as they go like they've done with bump stocks, forced-reset triggers, lightning links, solvent traps, etc, etc, etc. Chevron Deference needs to be thrown in the trash (along with the NFA)
feels good. the freedom@@rkba4923
You can literally bump fire any semi auto with practice. You don’t need a stock
True, belt loops help but are not needed. I guess belt loops will be banned as they are machineguns now too!
I was thinking this the whole video.
true, but if your using a Glock its gonna jam 30x more
with finger
True. But doesn't an accessory that makes it so anyone, even without practice or proper training use that effortlessly make the weapon more dangerous? Let me put it another way... if u could buy a product that could turn you into a professional athlete, would that be acceptable? Would it even be worth participating anymore? The fact that the creator himself couldn't answer whether he would feel differently if his children were harmed by an evil person using his invention should tell the whole story.
The rate of fire in the Las Vegas shooting is NOT the same as coming from a rifle with a bump stock. These also don’t make you more accurate, on the contrary you become less accurate.
don't need to be accurate in a crowd
@@slavesoul78The weapon used in las vegas was a belt fed machine gun. Not a bump stock. And youd be amazed how easy it is to miss a crowd.
@@melgillham462maybe if you’re retarded lmao
@@melgillham462 I don't know if you realize that pretending the FBI would hide a machine gun at a crime scene makes you look like a whacko.
Watch the video Jerry Michluk trying to use a bump stock from 5 years ago. He was faster and more accurate without it.
Turns a weapon into a killing machine is the finest dumbassery I've heard..
Also the fact fully auto weapons are so regulated is terrible.
Where do you draw the line then? Should we be able to own rocket propelled weapons? Fireable tanks? Nukes lol? There has to be a line for dumbasses who want to kill
You look how I’d expect someone saying this to look
Hehehe yeah, ever been shot with a non-automatic weapon? It lengthens you life and even makes you feel all warm 'n' fuzzy :)
You should be able to own whatever you want to own
@@77Avadon77 You are though, constitutionally anyway.
You don’t need a bump stock to bump fire. He is within the regulations of one bullet fired per trigger pull.
The regulation is actually 2 bullets per pull of the trigger hence why you can still get binary triggers.
@@waimeagavin808 wrong! binary triggers fire on pull and fire on release. 1 bullet per trigger manipulation.
It's per function of the trigger @@waimeagavin808
It is fires more than one bullet (or round) with a (or the) single function of the trigger. They didn't say single pull of the trigger because some firearms have a push trigger. It was in the oral arguments.
Incorrect, binary triggers fire once per trigger manipulation. 2 or more rounds per manipulations is not legal anywhere in the United States.@@johnvahl762
As a 2a supporter i think bump stocks are silly, but just like the pistol brace issue atf is not a law making organization. Thats a dangerously slippery slope
exactly- It's great Jeremiah made a bunch of money, but by themselves bump stocks are silly. The problem is ATF cannot just change its mind.
EXACTLY, even if you're anti-gun this shouldn't be the path you're pursuing. Giving agencies the ability to bend the law to their favor is a fast way to even further corrupt our government.
I agree
@@tartanfdo9769not about changing it’s mind. Legislatures can make and change laws. Atf has been doing it themsleves for some time not. Like a fourth branch of government
trump like bumps in the night little man!
Now do a story on parts for handguns from China used in certain cities across the US.
They won’t do that for fear of being called “racist”.
They just want to take the livelihood of a wounded warrior who overcame the TBI and impoverishment by doing what Americans do best, innovate, invent
What delusional world are you living in ? Why would China needs to export handguns to America. That's like saying Americans are stupid because of other countries when in reality it's the other way around.
Such as?
@@danielmartin7838The mainstream media has been all over Glock switches for the past year.
The 2nd amendment is the 2nd amendment. This man got him self off of Welfare, and invented a gun part. What does race have to do with any of this?
"that converts an assault weapon into a machine gun"... So what's an assault weapon?
There's no such thing! Assault is an action. I can turn anything into an assault weapon
i believe its a weapon class in video games
This is the biggest problem with the attempt to come to grips with guns here in the States. Language means everything. If you can't define something, how can you ban it? I have a Ruger 10-22 that by definition is also a semi-automatic that is, in function, identical to an AR platform rifle. The only thing you can assault with my Ruger is a squirrel or a tin can. Yet legislators not aware of this would create language that would treat both identically while the difference in power is the difference between a lightning bug and lightning.
An “assault weapon” is any and all modern firearms that the establishment/managerial class doesn’t want you to own while they arm themselves to the teeth with anything they please. For your own good and “safety”. Obviously.
A vehicle driving down the sidewalk of new york city
Never used in Vegas. Those was fully automatic rifles. There is no way someone, even with hours of practice, can fire that constantly with a bumpstock. Listen to the sounds very carefully.
I remember seeing pictures of the hotel room and at least one of the rifles had a bipod. Anybody who's used a bumpstock knows that it won't work with a bipod.
once a loser always a loser, trump followers are ignorant as "F"
Rate if fire is not even close either.
It was bumpstocks, you're an idiot.
The fact that there is even a bump stock invention and debate is just pure Idiocracy.
That wasn’t a bump stock, that was an M60. Nice try, but no way. Shall not be infringed!
It was clearly a MP5
240Lima, its cyclic rate matches cadence
The title is very misleading because all firearms aren’t toy’s period. Those who look at firearms as toys need more firearms education.
No your brain just doesn’t comprehend. Its an attachment for guns. It says nothing about a gun being a toy
@@3clowns469 you have fun with toys even a six-year-old understands that
That's the point, they are showing the mindset of bumpstock users playing with their toys.
@@fishybusinessco.8398 Is sex a toy?
@@fishybusinessco.8398 and i have fun with guns. by your definition it's a toy. good dialogue.
Funny the rate of fire on the shoots fired in vegas doesnt match what an ar 15 is even capable of.
once a loser always a loser, trump followers are ignorant as "F"
@@CraigScottFrost It was a belt fed machine gun that he used
Wait until these people learn what a small rubber band can do
or a shell casing behind the trigger.
@@imthebadguy3225you guys sound like Darwin nominees.
@@sushi_wolfgo ahead and get all your aggression out here, I know you don’t confront people IRL
@@sushi_wolf🤡🤡
@@sushi_wolf I've never met a coward
who didn't try to play it off as maturity.
"it turns a weapon into a killing machine"
i swear bro who cleared this into the script lmao
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Well what else is a bump stock used for besides putting more bullets down range? Not for hunting...
@@leeking1939you are also an idiot, keep watching the news they'll keep you informed.
@@leeking1939 2A was never about hunting.
@@leeking1939 Glock switch
“People that are bent on violence will achieve violence regardless with the tool they use”.
Best quote out this whole video.
By that logic why have any laws or police at all? Should we legalize murder? No, Because the law works when it’s ENFORCED. If a criminal won’t follow gun laws, the police will make them.
No that’s not what it means. It means theirs no point to infringing our 2nd amendment right. Take guns away the enemy will use knives or any blunt sharp object. Murder is murder but self defending your self is something else:
@@killshot2534False equivalency- knives are nowhere near as lethal as assault weapons. There’s no such thing as stray knives but stray bullets kill all the time. You can’t murder dozens of kids/cops in seconds with a knife. Also gun laws still allow carrying for self defense.
@@killshot2534False equivalency- knives are nowhere near as deadly as assault weapons. There’s no such thing as stray knives but stray bullets kill all the time. One can’t murder dozens of kids/cops in seconds with a knife. Also gun laws still allow carrying for self defense.
@@user-jv4ue3kt4r Having laws against murder doesn't prevent murder. Just determines the punishment afterwards
A machine gun is defined as a weapon designed to fires more than one round per trigger pull. Neither the bump stock nor the frt do this.
yea they should change it to a single pull of the finger
@nickkerivan5780 no, that would be an infringement like the nfa
@nickkerivan5780 that would make your finger a machine gun and everyone would go to prison
*”per function of the trigger”* is actually the wording. That’s why binary triggers are also legal under the current set of infringements. 😂
@iDeagles yeah, one pull of the trigger "per function "
“This converts an assault weapons into a machine gun.” 😂
I thought about that when she said it
I have never assaulted someone with my rifle so it's just a RIFLE in my world.😂
politically charged language sucks they ought to just talk normally and let society formulate their own opinions.
As soon as that person says “assault rifle” is when you stop listening to them seriously. Don’t waste any more of your time. Because obviously all they know about firearms is the workshopped anti-gun language leftist corporate media outlets spew into their living room.
It’s not about bump stocks but if the ATF can arbitrarily regulate on accessory, that means they can regulate pretty much any part of the weapon with impunity. We have a tyrannical government, let’s not give them any more power. I’m not for bump stocks but make the law, not have the ATF do random crap.
once a loser always a loser, trump followers are ignorant as "F"
Wood, PVC, duct tape. Got it. Thanks ABC! Guess it doesn't matter if they're banned, sounds like their super easy to make at home!
"Turns a weapon into a killing machine"? I'm sorry, was the semi automatic rifle not a killing machine prior to installing the "bump stock"? The worst statement I've heard a media presenter make.
What's this? We're still blaming guns instead of people?
Rape, murder, and dealing drugs are celebrated as entertainment in rap music, WHY doesn’t this bother you ABC News?
Those shots in Vegas did not sound anything like the cadence of the bump stock
The original bump stock made of wood PVC and duct tape just proves that literally anyone at home can make one of these things. So banning them won't stop people from having them.
Anyone at home can make a "lightning link", with just a piece of sheet metal and that will truly turn your semi auto into full. And it'll make your shooting more accurate because it doesn't make your entire gun bounce back and forth. People looking to do bad things will find a way to do bad things. Bump stocks are just toys used by people who like to shoot their guns. They aren't the problem. They were just trying to have fun in a way that was legal until big government decided to crack the whip.
Newton's 4th law of motion: For every enjoyable action, there's an equal but opposite government reaction.
Ironically that equal and opposite law of motion is exactly how the bump stock works.
I feel bad for the invetor cause
@@ShadySKWASHAdo you feel bad for the families who will never see their loved ones again?
@@MsPBJTimeI think ARs are fine, fully automatic or the resemblance of that is not.
@@MsPBJTimedepends on which families your talking about😂
@@sushi_wolfWhy? They were legal for civilians to buy until 1986 so there is really no text, history, or tradition of banning them. You can still buy and own a fully automatic today if manufactured before 86 - that is the government admitting they are sunsetting your right to own one because eventually, they will be impossible to locate. Even Clinton’s AWB did nothing statistically to erode violence so not only is gun control ineffective but it’s moreover unconstitutional. Repeal GCA/NFA and abolish ATF, no compromises
A M249 saw was used in vages.
Fuckin thank you no fuckin bump stock literally a squad automatic weapon for suppression,
Actually it was an M240, slower cyclic rate and the amount of carnage is in tandem with that platforms MO
@@kpp234proof it was used, was there photos of a saw in the room? I sure didn’t see a saw or any belts from a saw being used.
@@d.i.m.eproductions6925proof?
Sit down gravy seal.
Banning works great. Remember prohibition
I’m a little bit curious as to why a ban on fully automatic guns isn’t considered unconstitutional.
That’s the great part… it is unconstitutional. We just allow the abuse of rights to continue.
Because it would turn our country into a war zone like Afghanistan or Yemen. The right to bear arms cannot infringe on the right to life and safety. If you want to live like that, move there. Don’t turn our country into y’all qaeda or the gop taliban.
Because it would turn our country into a war zone like Afghanistan or Yemen. The right to bear arms cannot infringe on the right to life and safety. If you want to live like that, move there.
Because it would turn the country into a war zone like Afghanistan. The right to bear arms cannot infringe on the right to safety.
Because it would turn the country into a war zone like Afghanistan.
A bump stock is like a short shifter modification in a manual transmission car. It lets you change gears faster, allowing you to get up to speed faster, but it still doesn’t make it an automatic transmission.
"As fast as the gun will go." Yeah....nope. That will NEVER be a machine gun. Its just a toy.
Well you should know what he means by that.. A semi-auto rifle will almost NEVER shoot as fast as a machine gun, even if converted. Unless you're using FA rated parts, h2 or h3 buffer, etc. You could theoretically get p quick w/ a bumpstock like that. But also your rifle will be nearing 10k
Wait till they find out what someone can do with 4k pounds of metal and plastic moving at any speed above 0 mph.
once a loser always a loser, trump followers are ignorant as "F"
The funny thing is that they never say you don't really need a bump stock you are able to shoot it like that without one . All you have to do is leave an empty space between your shoulder and the stock of the gun.
True, but I'd never try that if people were shooting back!
i mean most of the time you wouldn't even use actual full auto unless you were just laying down suppression. @@imthebadguy3225
Or use your belt loop
Yup. Keep finger stationary and then pull the rifle forward off the shoulder. Can literally do this with every semi auto rifle.
Takes a lot of practice, bump stock you can discover it on youtube and buy before the video ends. Ban Guns
Remember that the ATF is an Executive Branch Agency not a Legislative one and has absolutely no authority to be making policy in any way shape or form. If these people are trying to prevent gun deaths they are going to be quite upset when they finally start the War they've been building up to for so long. Dont comply with Unconstitutional Actions of corrupt Governments. Defending against corruption is a perfect example of why owning these devices is a CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED RIGHT.
According to their logic, Jerry Michulek's finger needs to be banned for making guns fire so rapidly. A gun accessory that requires a certain degree of technique to make a gun fire more than a single shot is not a machine gun, which only needs you to hold the trigger down. No further action or technique is required.
yeah, its against the law to drive a super car 180 on the road, but you dont see them banning ownership of super cars right?
It was banned illegally by the atf
The incident where every combat veteran present said it was a belt fed machine
Sounds can be deceiving
@@josh05683 Can they? How do you mistake a 30 to 60 round magazine, with a 100-200 round belt?
@@SnarfsnarfObanion-pz5wn Well, I would assume the 100-round drum mags and multiple firearms loaded and ready he used might have had something to do with it…you smooth brain…
@@josh05683
Does the fact that the man had 23 guns in the room seem odd to you?
Does it seem weird that the majority of them had the 1 item that the ATF had been trying to ban for ages?
If you have 100 round magazines, and dozens of them, why would you need 23 guns when it's faster to reload than to switch weapons 23 times?
Nothing in the story adds up, seems like a gun deal gone bad or a false flag operation to ban bump stocks and AR15s.
@@josh05683 that is a whole lot of running around for a 60+ yr old to do in a room.
What a cool inventor. No tired talking points about legal rights and gun over-regulation from him, just humility.
"No tired talking points about legal rights" what an insane thing to say lmao.
@@JohnDoe-gq6yg I expected him to be a different about it but he was chill. If the government had that much say in my family businesses profits as they do for him I would be spouting as much as possible about how our rights are being infringed by them as soon as they put me on camera.
lol my bad i took that in a totally different way@@tomorrowsnews3915
A machine gun is not defined by Federal law by how FAST a gun shoots, but instead by HOW a gun shoots fast, thus Bump Stocks are not machine guns.
yall gonna wish we had that bump when crap hits the fan.
thats why they outlaw the stuff they kill us with do as i say not as i do its not what your country can do for u but what u can do for ur country i hate being a slave for the rich and i hate stupid can fix that. but when it comes down to crap hitting the fan there will be full autos all over the ground period so atf is nothing but a joke we the people will be fine as long as u choose the right ctr for live. much love for u all. o i wont be using one anyway i like my trigger finger its faster just a lot of practice practice and practice and then more practice not joking i have full control and the power to make the right choice defend ur people not the rest movement is very important remember its not the gun its the person period i would never harm anyone unless i really had no choice be true to yourself dont trust the goverment ever they are the rich sickos that have made us their slaves...
once a loser always a loser, trump followers are ignorant as "F"
not really you will run out of ammo way before me.😂
@@Jasonbourne19741it takes 3 seconds or less to change a mag
@@foodistzen How many can you carry before you blew through all of them with that rate of fire?
“It turns a weapon into a killing machine.” Geez Louise
@samsaasen4922 you can turn anything into a killing machine
Next up banning belt loops.
Many drivers add "an incredible amount of lethality" when they drive drunk or text and drive and speed.
I can sum this story up in three words: freedom is scary!
It really should be though. It'd be nice to live in freedom without living in fear.
Freedom is scare that’s why you should have a gun. 😂😂 bunch of pussies.
You forgot the “deal with it”. 😂
Especially in a country full of trigger happy idiots.
@@stevenm7146 Here in Canada we get to live in fear and DON'T have freedom! We get the best of both worlds! Yay Canada! Yay tyranny!
The thing is, you can bump fire without a bump stock. The bump stock only makes it safer. It's literally a bad and awful way to waste your ammo. The only thing is the fun factor, until you realize you just wasted 20-40$ of ammo in 5 seconds.
Unless you're a mass murderer.
I guess they better outlaw your thumb and belt loop cause it does the same thing lmao
Careful, the gAyTF already said a piece of string is a machinegun...
no responsible gun owner treats their guns "like a toy"
"It turns a gun into a killing machine". Isn't a _gun_ a killing machine? Don't you mean "turns a gun into a _mass_ killing machine"?
the inventors comments didnt do him any favors, he didn't defend it at all, he just fed the anti gunners and the reporter
It's not close to automatic.. it's significantly different. As long as we are talking about the "spirit of the law", this administrative ban violates the "spirit" of the second amendment. We need to stop crazy people, not go after the tools they use.
Basically any gun restriction law violates more than just the spirit of the Second Amendment.
legalize full auto. all bullets and all guns are killing machines. guns are not the problem people are. any argument against that is ignorant like the idiots who took this from us
The vegas shooting was nit carried out by the bumostock guns the dude also had an actual belt fed 240 bravo firing 308 also i promise there was more than one shooter you can hear 3 diffetent rapports in the span of a second wich is 3 different guns firing
They were trying to get conservatives to jump on the gun banning wagon by attacking a country music festival. Same plan as Operation Northwoods.
Look at flight radar of that night, it tells some interesting things. Video footage from the ground also shows some stuff too. Taxi driver in manadalay bay entrance had cell phone footage that showed shooting from a different angle not from the "alleged room". There is more going on in Vegas that night compared to what we were told.
@@scavl14 100 percent i didnt know any of that but i dam well know what a 240 sounds like and an ar 15 both bump and real full auto that distance it would take an absolute master of sustained fire to do what he did alone hell it would take idk maybey 4 to 6 people who where very highly trained to get that level of accuracy in that time frame so i agree much like alot of things maui texas palestine indiana and the chemicals are all very weird not to mention the gas line in ohio that blew up could be seen for 3 states around
@@todydn I started out as a M249 gunner and then switched to M240. The fire rate is more consistent with those two than a bump stock. Don't forget the second room door was allegedly locked, so the armor piercing rounds fired at the fuel tanks on the Mcclaran Airport were fire by "who". Leaves more questions than answers that we got. Timing of everything gets questioned. Railway stuff looks more like profit over maintenance, though after one or two derailings. Things should be halted in a safety stand down.
@@scavl14 one thank you for your sacrifices and welcome home soldier. Second you are litteraly the first person ive met who gets it.... last one and we can be conspirabros lol. Do you think fentanyl is juat a bad addiction crisis or a purposefull chemical attack by china
Any weapon is an assault weapon when used to assault people 😐 All of the people who push for restriction of the 2A literally no nothing about guns or gun crime.
I'm life long gun owner, no reason to have that, ridiculous
@alexblais8076 I'm not for gun control on anything for law abiding citizens, but for that one I'd have to say yes, probably the only thing I'd say yes on for law abiding citizens
Ok fudd
@@PS25458 Bump stocks came from bump firing. Basically, people using sticks and belt loops. Are you going to band sticks and belt loops?
@@GOD719 I just gave my opinion, take it or leave it, go do your belt loop stuff all ya want, I could care less
I don't object to making bump stocks illegal, I object to either the Executive or Judicial branch of our government making laws. Laws are the exclusive responsibility of the Legislative branch.
Banning the device doesn't ban the firearms ability to bump fire.
I put a Luth stock a custom build of mine, it turned it into a way more lethal firearm. I couldn't believe the increased power and rate of fire over the traditional M4 stock.
These people are idiots
once a loser always a loser, trump followers are ignorant as "F"
I can bump fire any semi auto rifle or pistol so am I a machine gun? ATF come get me 😂😂
Why are people who make or use perfectly legal firearms accused of "getting around" the law? If I pay for my groceries am I "getting around" the shoplifting law?
I'm the biggest 2A activist and this pushes the limits of semi automatic weapons this is the biggest grey area we have currently. But the truth is 3% of shootings occur with AR-15 almost everyone killed in America happens with pistols. We have a mental health problem not a gun problem.
A heavy-duty rubber band can achieve the same effect. Much cheaper than a bump stock.
CAN. With a bumb stock anybody can do it for as long as they want with 0 practice and while drunk. That's not the same.
Stupidest move Trump ever did
I have been a competitive 3 Gun shooter for many years. I have met hundreds of gun owners and none of them ever mentioned owning a bump stock. They were always looked at as a novelty by competition shooters. No one I have shot with ever used one for competition, or even target practice. I have heard they can be unreliable as you have to hold them a certain way. None of that really matters in this case. This is not a 2nd Amendment issue and it has nothing to do with the horrific mass shooting. The issue is as fundamental as our democracy. Can a government agency without Congressional approval make private property illegal with the stroke of a pen? There was no grandfather clause, no compensation or buy back program. You legally purchased an item and could have owned it for years then one day some government agency says your property is illegal and if you do not hand it over you can go to federal prison and be fined thousands of dollars over a piece of plastic. It is the definition of tyranny. If you are ok with giving the government that much power then we have no democracy. It is that simple.
Just a kinda dumb "range toy" that doesn't interest me. However, the legality of it does interest me. If someone wants to ban it, they need to take it up with their congress people. The National Firearms Act has clear language, and bump stocks are NOT machineguns, nor do they convert a gun in to a machinegun.
Government agencies can not re-make laws. That is the stuff of dystopian dictatorships. Very anti-democratic.
People always seem to overlook that a legal, law-abiding citizen can own a machine gun, suppressor, SBR, or explosives as long as they are willing to spend time and money. They are not "illegal" (banned), they are "regulated".
The real catch? You don't need a bump stock to bump fire a gun... but don't tell the ATF that, they'll ban triggers
In layman's terms the definition of a "machine gun" is more than one bullet is fired with a single press of the trigger. I.E. holding the trigger rearward continually fires bullets until the trigger is released. These bump stocks and other kinds of triggers do not fit the ATF's definition of a machine gun. I have a feeling that a law will be suggested that regulates the number of rounds a weapon can be fired per second/minute. That is a horrible idea but government officials tend to be terrified of guns. Instead of more gun control, the government needs to spend more time and effort on helping those with mental illnesses and keeping criminals in jail instead of these no bail policies. More people in America are killed in motor vehicle collisions than by firearms but that does not seem to upset politicians. Also, most shootings are committed by criminals with stolen guns, not people who legally purchase firearms. Just imagine what it would be like today if in the 1760s all firearms were banned in America.
COWARDS who would trade the freedom of everyone for security for themselves DESERVE NEITHER.
7:52 Would you blame Ford if someone used one of their trucks to mow down innocent victims?
Machine guns should be legal anyway, if you can be trusted with an ar and 30 round magazines, then full auto should be allowed.
On average, there are 10,000 gun homicides a year in America.
300 with rifles,
250 with shotguns,
3000 with "unknown,"
and the other 6,450 are done with handguns.
"Your safety" is NOT why they want to ban rifles so bad.
I can use my belt loop and achieve the same result as a bump stock. Are we going to make belt loops illegal and or regulat them.
If you treat a gun as a toy, you shouldn't be using one.
Hold the gun loose a certain way and this works without any modified stock. Like from the hip. Your finger just keeps pressing the button due to recoil.
My cousins with some of these types of guns demonstrated this when target shooting in the woods.
Bump stock vs machine gun. Bump stocks destroy the accuracy. A machine gun has more accuracy when rapidly firing and they fire faster. One bullet at a time is the most accurate.
Belt loop bump stock is the way to go now boys
Dear Devin Dwyer: how do you know a bumpstock played a roll in the “deadliest mass shooting”? By that, I take it you are referring to the Las Vegas shooting; have you seen the police report of that? If so, the rest of American would love to know the details of that incident, as those files have not been made available to we, the citizens. If not, you are commenting on hearsay, which makes you a very poor excuse for a newsreader.
"This converts an assault weapon into a machine gun"
Oh the amount of stupid in that sentence alone 😂
Assault weapons ARE machine guns. If it is semi auto, it's not an assault weapon. It HAS to have full auto capability to be considered an assault weapon, that is a NECESSARY component to the definition of assault weapon. Also, it has to be chambered in a "battle" caliber, 762x39, 556, 308, etc.
What bothers me the most about this is those people at that music festival overreacring to someone just having fun with a bump stock and exercising his 2nd Amendment rights...
There are so many wrong terms and definitions in this video. Also, the main reason for the 2nd amendment is to defend against terrorists, foreign and DOMESTIC. Believe me, there is a lot of defending to be done in the near future!
I think the ruling should be dropped. My only issue is I could see this being a loophole for some people because if they were to somehow regulate this bump stock what makes that different from braces what makes that different from other kind of stocks?
Anyone who's going to do something like this and kill a bunch of people isn't going to be stopped by a bump stock ban. As the guy said a "bump stock" is just a toy. It let's you shoot fast but at the price of accuracy. When you use a bump stock the whole gun is sliding back and forth and is unsteady and therefore inaccurate. A real machine gun doesn't do this. Anyway, it easy to turn an AR and most other semi autos into a real machine gun. All you need is a little flat piece of metal, that just about anyone with basic skills can cut to dimension. These are what are often called "lightning links" or "glock switches" and they are much easier to make than a bump stock and unlike a bump stock require no skills or special technique. You actually have to learn how to use a bump stock because you must simultaneously push forward with one hand on the foregrip while pulling backward with your trigger finger on the other hand. If you watch videos where people use a bump stock for the first time you can see it takes a little bit of practice to master that and maintain fire. That's not the case with a lightning link of glock switch. Those are 100% plug and play. So anybody who has the intent to do some bad is much more likely to choose one of those instead and since they will make it themselves, there will be no record that they purchased it. It'd be much better to leave bump stocks alone and focus on those devices instead. Heck, even a coat hanger or piece of wire can be twisted into a shape that performs the same function but doesn't last as long, but for a mass shooter who's only intent is to kill as many as he can before he himself get taken out, that wouldn't matter. Bottom line is trying to outlaw the sale of stuff like this is going to have no effect.
Why do governments who are demonstrably uninformed about specific topics still insist on enforcing their restrictions on about those topics that they walk into unknown territory of knowledge?
Why don't you use a better translator to troll people and to pretend you are one of them?
once a loser always a loser, trump followers are ignorant as "F"
Lmfao bumpstock wasnt used in LV. It was a blet fed machine gun. Smdh
My brother was killed when he was hit by a jacked up Ford Bronco. My dad instantly became a guy against jacked up trucks. That's because he was emotionally compromised. Not because jacked up trucks are especially dangerous or because they need to be banned. A lot of people feel the same way after their kid is shot and killed. They want to blame the thing that killed their kid. It allows them to go onto a crusade. It gives them something to do and a purpose, but it's all emotional garbage. It's an outlet for their grief and energy.
5:27 "This converts an assault weapon into a machine gun."
Definition of assault weapon: A weapon capable of fully automatic fire or burst fire.
Definition of a machine gun: A weapon capable of firing multiple rounds with one function of the trigger.
60 Americans dead and 400 Americans injured in a few minutes doesn't sound like a toy to me.
Congress has and had no authority to outlaw any kind of firearm.
Spirit of the Law? What about Black letter Law? Where is Congress? Why is any Executive Agency allowed to change the meaning of words? The last I checked the ATF does not create law via regulations. The arguments being put forth against Bump Stocks is not sound. For those that missed Civics Class and ABC after school specials. Everyone has to agree or disagree about a Bill that may become Law. Yes Virginia, there is a process to go through. If you don't like a Law you must go through the process to create, modify, or sunset a Law. When that activity occurs civil discourse or not can happen. Activism disguised as lobbying is not news, It's Propaganda. Any lobbying organization purposely going against the Constitution should be held accountable for their actions taken. Some would call that a Felony, I would call it Treasonous. I will take Rule of Law any day over opinionated activism. Jeremiah said it best in his last statement.
But you can still buy and own a super car. Terrible analogy.
The creator’s point made sense to me - someone who is bent on violence will find a way to create violence. It has nothing to do with their particular rifle, or knife, or car bumper, or whatever tool they choose to misuse. It seems illogical to strip rights from regular folks every time some lunatic does something horrible.
These never met the legal definition of machine gun. It's never even been proven that these were used in the LV shooting.
9:15 that sentence came out of his mouth without hesitation
@ 6:16 : "It's fun to drive a supercar 180 mph down a highway, but we don't allow that either." #1 - Driving that car past the speed limit is illegal. #2 - The reason it's illegal is because of the risk of killing bystanders in public. Someone shooting a gun on a range is not breaking any laws, nor is endangering anyone.
Fully automatic shouldn't be illegal to begin with. The founders meant civilians to have the same firearms as the army
“ it converts an assault weapon into a machine gun” lol
Its like saying the H Bomb was made because people liked seeing a flash and mushroom cloud.
No, it's really not