Yeah I'm on the same boat here though the lack of uniqueness in enemies and the generic ai really has been a bummer for me. This is exactly where games like brimstone earn the spotlight
@@PiterMorbid I played two scenarios of Arena The Contest and haven't liked it at all. Tanares may be better but as I don't like the combat system, I happily passed on that one.
Looking forward to Tanares. Our group is a year into Aeons Trespass (mid Cycle 2) so we're surprised / not surprised at your thoughts on it - it takes a certain type of group to wan to progress through these massive adventures, and figured you'd be all about it - Sounds like you hit the 1 Battle that is a garbage battle (ambush), but that was the only one we found and played. It's a very impressive game. But we're excited to finish it so we can start Oathsworn.
I found your videos this year and have greatly appreciated your content and your creativeness. I got a 3D printer (Bambu X1 Carbon) because of you. Thanks for all that you do.
So I’ll definitely be in over my head this year for stuff coming out. I backed League of Dungeoneers and Tanares Adventures Ultinate. Those are going to keep me busy for years.
League of Dungeoneers has been my favourite this year. Much better than I was expecting and one that will be staying in my collection. I have just had Dungeon Universalis delivered but I think that I am going to pass it on. I have been painting and playing a lot of Massive Darkness 2 and enjoying it a lot. Aeon Trespass I have managed to resist as I don't think that I can give it the time needed. Haven't started on Tanares Adventures yet. I will be painting it soon. About halfway through Oathsworn. Amazing game. I have never tried Shadows of Brimstone, so might pick up Valhalla? I have just started playing Dungeons of Doria and Deliverance and both are maintaining my interest. Waiting for Dungeon Crusade to arrive, which is another reason why I think Dungeon Universalis isn't going to get played. Have a great 2024!
My wife gave me Oathsworn as a Christmas gift and I can’t wait to play it! I organized it and ended up ordering the deluxe bags for the cards, dice and coins. The rulebook is the only thing standing between me and actually getting it to the table.
I really wanna play a lot of these, Marvel zombies for one. I just don't have people to play it with. Aeon Trespass looked lovely, I want that for the miniatures. But yeah, the mechanics could have been better.
I've really enjoyed MD2 and SoB Forbidden Fortress this year (both new to me) which are complete opposite ends of the fiddly spectrum 😂. Also been enjoying Marvel Zombies (my first Zombicide game), and I just got Oathsworn in, so hopefully will be able to experience that one soon. I'm most excited for Agemonia and Harakiri to deliver this year, and I'm still hoping we will see wave one of Stormsunder by next Christmas. Who knows about the rest of it, but I can dream.
I'm sure in one of their latest updates they've said Stormsunder will be 2025. I'm kind of forgetting about it and hoping it arrives at some point and turns out to be an awesome game.
Im also patiently waiting for Stormsunder to show up. Super excited for that one. Another one that i think is going to be incredible is Primal: The Awakening. Also excited to try to paint those once they show up.
I think if League of Dungeoneers had not come out, I would have kept DUN Universalis but just found myself pulling out the former rather than the latter.
Not 100% whether I will play ISS Vanguard. Heard criticism that the game falls off later in the campaign. Maybe if I find someone else who wants to play with me...
Hey! Surprised not to see Isofarian Guard on your list. Have you played / ordered / considered it? I don't think we will see Stormsunder until 2025. Trying to make peace with it...
I seriously considered backing the latest Kickstarter but decided against it last minute. Some reviewers criticized that it can be a grind and I didn't like it was only two player.
Sorry to hear you didn't enjoy Dungeon Universalis. I 100% agree it's terrible as a co-op dungeon crawl. But I will say I think it's fantastic as a solo rpg when you want to do a dungeon crawl theme. It's 100% okay to ignore or change rules to simplify it and make it more fun for you. It's my perfect solo rpg game. It's more of a toolkit then an actual game. But I agree I would never do a gaming group co-op campaign of it. If others expressed interest in trying it I would probably just do a 1 shot where I played the dark player and let them play heroes. I think League of Dungeoneers is way worse on t he rules than Dungeon Universalis. Half their rules don't make sense. There's way less tactics involved. Tons of typos. Not play tested as well. Way less customization. I hear they are doing a reprint though to fix a lot of the issues.
Great vid, how have I never seen this channel before? Awesome taste in games and your 3D terrain is incredible - where do you find the time to paint all those miniatures? My painting backlog is always growing.😊
I really enjoyed Darkest Dungeon. Similar to MD2 where it isn't overly complicated and FUN while being tense and brutal lol... OrcQuest was another enjoyable crawler, need to play more of it though.
@@gaminggeek241 I've only played the first mission a couple times and not all the way through, so I'm not sure what their referring to mechanically. What I did play and experience was fun, and it has a super unique way of spawning mobs in buildings by dropping dice inside a custom insert that can adjust for the room size.
Hope you cover the revised league of dungeoneers. I went all in on the Kickstarter, now I need stl for the monsters 😢 Stormsunder I can't wait, I agree with having it balanced before releasing however with the time I wish they could have added a narrator, even if it's a.i.
I didn't include Witcher on this list but maybe I should have? It was fine but I would rather play the four DCs over it. Probably because I prefer co-ops over competitive. But the card combo mechanic and deck building of Witcher is fun.
I just received Dungeon Saga Origins. On the lighter side, but I am really impressed with how Mantic does their other war games. Reviews showed this more favourable than the original Descent, esp. wrt One-vs.-all and very streamlined. Looking forward to playing it😊.
@@gaminggeek241 It's a slight step up from Hero Quest so it's good for playing with kids if Hero Quest doesn't have enough complexity to keep you engaged but still not being too complex for the kids (depending on their age of course). Based on the games you play though, the slight bump in complexity may still not be enough for you though so the only way to know is to give it a try.
@@gaminggeek241 we beat the 1st boss on our second settlement with just rawhide and half naked man with twlight sword. We basically had a village that had a lot of births
@@1AngelAlita I suppose it fills a similar RPG in a box for us. Kdm for me is all about the settlement phase. Killing the monsters is just the means to feed the next generation. sob, coolest feature is the ability to grab gear from different worlds and conuntuine those adventures. Numenera role playing game we would rather play also now then sob. Less clunky.
Oh man I love Aeon Tresspass Odyssey. Liked it so much I went all in on Sins of Herc, picked up the core pledge of Kingdoms forlorn and Kingdom Death. Its such a epic game but thats also its downfall. I think it plays best at 1 or 2 unless you know 3 or 4 players who really love long narration. Last play finished around 10 days and a fight in around 3 hours. Oathsworn is my go to recommendation for boss battlers. Such a great story and accessible game play. Im not far into Kingdom death but so far I am really likeing it. I found Massive Darkness 2 to be too simplistic and I really hated the bloated minatures where they are used as a health marker instead of doing something interesting. Arydia I had to pass on as I have far too many campaign games. Im looking forward to Stars of Arkadia 2.0. I played 1.0 a little bit and I certainly saw something good there but got distracted by Oathsworn and never went back to it. I am perplexed that stornsunder still isnt on a boat to backers.
I saw that Aeon Trespass works better as either solo or at lower player count but gave up on it. I'm looking forward to Stars of Arkadia as I don't see a game similar to it.
Heard a lot of good things about Massive Darkness 2 and it seems like it may be one I could enjoy. Bit worried about Tanares but nothing I can do about that now. Oathsworn was a bit of a disappointment for me, I liked the ideas but thought the depth was not enough for something which required such long setup and play times and I feel a lot of it could have been streamlined. Think I may have similar issues with Tanares but hopefully not. Dungeon Universalis I read parts of the rulebook and decided it was not for me. That rulebook needs a few more passovers. It was very poor at giving information in an effective way and the while I didnt play it I got the feeling the pacing of the game would not be very good. If it was cheaper I would have given it a go. Backed League of Dungeoneers so will see how that goes.
Just started a traveler group with a friend DMing. Played Marvel Zombie. To me it plays as an easier version of the game. Maybe better as a entry level Zombicide for younger players. Wrapped up Gloomhaven Jaws of the Lion. Very good. Got Wingspan and Flamecraft for Christmas. Both fun games.
Hey I have tanares ultimate. But I found a deal on massive darkness 2 all in. Would you recommend having both? I’m keep long tanares just want to know if you would recommend owning both.
Tanares is the better campaign but is long with around 30 scenarios. MD2 is better as one-offs rather than the campaign and feels really different than Tanares. So if you like one-offs, then grab it!
Hi. Can you recommend a Dungeon Crawler that has agency. Meaningful decision making with low randomness? For reference, Mage Knight and TMB Undertow are some of my favorite games. I bought Shadows of Brimstone FoF and hate it. Does not feel like a game, but more like an RPG. I'm not driving but being driven. I also prefer true solo games. Thanks again.
The game with the most meaningful decision making would be Roll Player Adventures, although gameplay can get a little easy as you progress. You can play true solo but I tend to play two-handed solo because of better synergies and balancing weaknesses.
I have Tanares and League of Dungeoneers coming from their crowd funding. Have you played Dungeon Crusade by Groovus Games Unlimited. I recently received it, but haven't played it yet. GGU is working on a quicker to table/play version. So if 3-4 hours for a game is too long, the new version might be one to consider. Thanks for sharing your liked dungeon crawlers. We seem to have very similar likes.
Couldn't agree more with you about AT:O. I was so excited after backing it and watching its development but after a dozen showdowns and 40 odd tiles explored in Cycle 1 it just felt like a headache to play and never a joy. So much wasted potential.
ISS Vanguard is my campaign game of the year (even tho it came out in 2022). The story and plot are both crazy! Super epic, and the ship book phase is very unique and fun. Looking forward to Tanares and Oathsworn 2E
@@gaminggeek241 i did the original campaign and it came with hyperion. I wish I got more after the fact. And I love black rose rebirth so the more content that bounces between both the better
Sounds like you bounced off 2 games that take a deep investment to play. ATO and DUN are games that you basically need to play exclusively for their duration if you want to enjoy them. They're both amazing, but if you try to juggle them with others you're probably going to have a bad time. They also skew heavily solo.
I have ATO as well, and my biggest gripe is that it feels like they just wanted all the mechanics in a single game. I'd much rather them dial a few things back and make what they have the very best it could be. I actually canceled my Kingdoms Forlorn pledge after playing ATO. I have two kids in the house and I don't own a gaming table. So setting up ATO and tearing it down was another big obstacle that I faced. Maybe once the kids are out of the house in 12 years, I'll have the time and space that it requires.
I would say oathsworn is good, but you complaint about ATO can be appied to oathsworn, the game is a railroaded adventure where your decisions do not matter at all. Good story yes. But it is a railroad, unless some how that changes after the 15th battle. Where I am. But I am guessing not. This does not make the game bad. ATOs problem is its complex for the sake of complexity. Do this add tokens, take cards out of deck add cards into deck, and the labyrinth mechanics of 2 of the "bosses" are not my favorite and are again overly complex, as to I, who reads rule books and plays lots of games, had to watch videos and reread the book to make sure we were doing it right. It is very unintuitive, and the rules don't help along the way. KDM is better, because, its rules systems do not get in its own way. Which personally I think ATO does do. I quite ATO after about 10hrs. When the third boss had the same gimick as the second with the labyrinth tiles. I just didn't have the want to do that 6 more times. Not sure it would be but.... I don't care to find out. ATO story seems neat, and there is definitely open world where you can explore. Those systems seemed neat to me. Anywho. We just started Taneres we are liking it so far.
I'm sure in one of their latest updates they've said it'll be 2025. I'm kind of forgetting about it and hoping it arrives at some point and turns out to be an awesome game.
Oathsworn seems awesome but it also seems like it’s not replayable, while Tanares Adventures seems to be very replayable (I have both and am looking forward to playing in 2024 or 2025!). Happy new gaming year!
“Fairly delayed” is very, very kind- made the mistake of backing Stormsunder and revised Wild Assent, and will be SHOCKED if either delivers, ever. Oh well, it’s only money, right?!
Yeah neither is every being delivered, I was very fortunate in getting a partial refund for Wild Ascent earlier in the year but they refused to do this for Stormsunder. And to think this is just wave 1 so not even the full game.
I'm sure in one of their latest updates they've said it'll be 2025. I'm kind of forgetting about it and hoping it arrives at some point and turns out to be an awesome game.
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I have to agree: Tanares Adventures is unbelievably fun and super strategic, and I can’t wait to get the reprinted books and pick it back up.
Yeah I'm on the same boat here though the lack of uniqueness in enemies and the generic ai really has been a bummer for me. This is exactly where games like brimstone earn the spotlight
@@PiterMorbid I played two scenarios of Arena The Contest and haven't liked it at all. Tanares may be better but as I don't like the combat system, I happily passed on that one.
Tanares Ultimate is truly superb.
Looking forward to Tanares. Our group is a year into Aeons Trespass (mid Cycle 2) so we're surprised / not surprised at your thoughts on it - it takes a certain type of group to wan to progress through these massive adventures, and figured you'd be all about it - Sounds like you hit the 1 Battle that is a garbage battle (ambush), but that was the only one we found and played. It's a very impressive game. But we're excited to finish it so we can start Oathsworn.
I found your videos this year and have greatly appreciated your content and your creativeness. I got a 3D printer (Bambu X1 Carbon) because of you. Thanks for all that you do.
Thanks so much! Which games are you printing stuff for on your Bambu?
So I’ll definitely be in over my head this year for stuff coming out. I backed League of Dungeoneers and Tanares Adventures Ultinate. Those are going to keep me busy for years.
Just found your channel, and really loving the content! I had no idea there were so many great looking dungeon crawlers out.
League of Dungeoneers has been my favourite this year. Much better than I was expecting and one that will be staying in my collection. I have just had Dungeon Universalis delivered but I think that I am going to pass it on.
I have been painting and playing a lot of Massive Darkness 2 and enjoying it a lot.
Aeon Trespass I have managed to resist as I don't think that I can give it the time needed.
Haven't started on Tanares Adventures yet. I will be painting it soon.
About halfway through Oathsworn. Amazing game.
I have never tried Shadows of Brimstone, so might pick up Valhalla?
I have just started playing Dungeons of Doria and Deliverance and both are maintaining my interest.
Waiting for Dungeon Crusade to arrive, which is another reason why I think Dungeon Universalis isn't going to get played.
Have a great 2024!
Wow, that's a great list! You have a lot of plastic to paint!
@@gaminggeek241Just bought Middara as well!? I think that I have a dungeon crawler problem?😅
Awesome Awesome video. What is the miniature size of Tanares? I might get this one. Happy New Year!
28mm
My wife gave me Oathsworn as a Christmas gift and I can’t wait to play it! I organized it and ended up ordering the deluxe bags for the cards, dice and coins. The rulebook is the only thing standing between me and actually getting it to the table.
I truely hope you enjoy it as much as i did and apparently GamingGeek.
She's a keeper.
@@roberthermosillo5727 Yes, she is! I got so excited when I saw the box!
I really wanna play a lot of these, Marvel zombies for one. I just don't have people to play it with.
Aeon Trespass looked lovely, I want that for the miniatures. But yeah, the mechanics could have been better.
You can solo Marvel Zombies--I think Joel from Drive Thru Games played most of his games that way.
I've really enjoyed MD2 and SoB Forbidden Fortress this year (both new to me) which are complete opposite ends of the fiddly spectrum 😂. Also been enjoying Marvel Zombies (my first Zombicide game), and I just got Oathsworn in, so hopefully will be able to experience that one soon.
I'm most excited for Agemonia and Harakiri to deliver this year, and I'm still hoping we will see wave one of Stormsunder by next Christmas. Who knows about the rest of it, but I can dream.
I'm sure in one of their latest updates they've said Stormsunder will be 2025. I'm kind of forgetting about it and hoping it arrives at some point and turns out to be an awesome game.
I forgot about Harakiri--I backed that one too!
Gates of Valhalla is a very fun SoB core set, Rage ability is a game changer. But Valley of The Serpent Kings is also great! :)
Thanks!
Im also patiently waiting for Stormsunder to show up. Super excited for that one. Another one that i think is going to be incredible is Primal: The Awakening. Also excited to try to paint those once they show up.
Dungeon Universalis is my favorite Dungeon Crawler of all time. But it requires commitment. Too bad you didn't like it, it is a fantastic DC.
I think if League of Dungeoneers had not come out, I would have kept DUN Universalis but just found myself pulling out the former rather than the latter.
I kind of wish I backed that Tanaris RPG. I would be very interested in your opinion on ISS vanguard.
Not 100% whether I will play ISS Vanguard. Heard criticism that the game falls off later in the campaign. Maybe if I find someone else who wants to play with me...
I have both League of Dungeoneers and Valhalla on the shelf. Which to start first??? Great video. Thanks!
Haha! Well, if you want a simpler game, go with Valhalla but if you want to solo, I would do LoD.
Hey! Surprised not to see Isofarian Guard on your list. Have you played / ordered / considered it?
I don't think we will see Stormsunder until 2025. Trying to make peace with it...
I seriously considered backing the latest Kickstarter but decided against it last minute. Some reviewers criticized that it can be a grind and I didn't like it was only two player.
Sorry to hear you didn't enjoy Dungeon Universalis. I 100% agree it's terrible as a co-op dungeon crawl. But I will say I think it's fantastic as a solo rpg when you want to do a dungeon crawl theme. It's 100% okay to ignore or change rules to simplify it and make it more fun for you. It's my perfect solo rpg game. It's more of a toolkit then an actual game. But I agree I would never do a gaming group co-op campaign of it. If others expressed interest in trying it I would probably just do a 1 shot where I played the dark player and let them play heroes. I think League of Dungeoneers is way worse on t he rules than Dungeon Universalis. Half their rules don't make sense. There's way less tactics involved. Tons of typos. Not play tested as well. Way less customization. I hear they are doing a reprint though to fix a lot of the issues.
Great vid, how have I never seen this channel before? Awesome taste in games and your 3D terrain is incredible - where do you find the time to paint all those miniatures? My painting backlog is always growing.😊
Oh, believe me, I have a huge backlog of projects!
I really enjoyed Darkest Dungeon. Similar to MD2 where it isn't overly complicated and FUN while being tense and brutal lol... OrcQuest was another enjoyable crawler, need to play more of it though.
I have Orc Quest unopened in the shipping box. Someone told me the mechanics are broken--what's your opinion?
@@gaminggeek241 I've only played the first mission a couple times and not all the way through, so I'm not sure what their referring to mechanically. What I did play and experience was fun, and it has a super unique way of spawning mobs in buildings by dropping dice inside a custom insert that can adjust for the room size.
I have been playing Rangers of Shadowdeep with my son and a separate campaign with a friend.
Hope you cover the revised league of dungeoneers. I went all in on the Kickstarter, now I need stl for the monsters 😢
Stormsunder I can't wait, I agree with having it balanced before releasing however with the time I wish they could have added a narrator, even if it's a.i.
Do you consider adventure games like Runebound/Witcher/Skyrim as dungeon crawlers? Or do you have a separate best adventure game of 2023? Thanks!
I didn't include Witcher on this list but maybe I should have? It was fine but I would rather play the four DCs over it. Probably because I prefer co-ops over competitive. But the card combo mechanic and deck building of Witcher is fun.
I just received Dungeon Saga Origins. On the lighter side, but I am really impressed with how Mantic does their other war games. Reviews showed this more favourable than the original Descent, esp. wrt One-vs.-all and very streamlined. Looking forward to playing it😊.
Curious to know what you think about DS Origins!
@@gaminggeek241 It's a slight step up from Hero Quest so it's good for playing with kids if Hero Quest doesn't have enough complexity to keep you engaged but still not being too complex for the kids (depending on their age of course).
Based on the games you play though, the slight bump in complexity may still not be enough for you though so the only way to know is to give it a try.
Kingdom death monster fired shadows of brimstone for us and every other co-op dungeon crawl for the most part
We still enjoy KDM even though we have yet to succeed--settlement keeps getting wiped out after five tries.
@@gaminggeek241 we beat the 1st boss on our second settlement with just rawhide and half naked man with twlight sword. We basically had a village that had a lot of births
I don't see KDM having anything in common with SoB. KDM is a boss battler, not a dungeon crawler.
@@1AngelAlita I suppose it fills a similar RPG in a box for us. Kdm for me is all about the settlement phase. Killing the monsters is just the means to feed the next generation. sob, coolest feature is the ability to grab gear from different worlds and conuntuine those adventures. Numenera role playing game we would rather play also now then sob. Less clunky.
I really liked my Massive Darkness 2 Kickstarter.
Did you play The Bad Karmas and The Curse of the Zodiac?
I did a demo of the game at GenCon. I liked it but not enough to back the Kickstarter.
You should try Kinfire Chronicles! It’s most excellent.
Oh man I love Aeon Tresspass Odyssey. Liked it so much I went all in on Sins of Herc, picked up the core pledge of Kingdoms forlorn and Kingdom Death. Its such a epic game but thats also its downfall. I think it plays best at 1 or 2 unless you know 3 or 4 players who really love long narration. Last play finished around 10 days and a fight in around 3 hours.
Oathsworn is my go to recommendation for boss battlers. Such a great story and accessible game play.
Im not far into Kingdom death but so far I am really likeing it.
I found Massive Darkness 2 to be too simplistic and I really hated the bloated minatures where they are used as a health marker instead of doing something interesting.
Arydia I had to pass on as I have far too many campaign games.
Im looking forward to Stars of Arkadia 2.0. I played 1.0 a little bit and I certainly saw something good there but got distracted by Oathsworn and never went back to it.
I am perplexed that stornsunder still isnt on a boat to backers.
I saw that Aeon Trespass works better as either solo or at lower player count but gave up on it. I'm looking forward to Stars of Arkadia as I don't see a game similar to it.
Wow, I bet that group of people you played Zombicide with last night were REALLY COOL people!
Well, one of them is really cool at least... 🤣
Heard a lot of good things about Massive Darkness 2 and it seems like it may be one I could enjoy. Bit worried about Tanares but nothing I can do about that now. Oathsworn was a bit of a disappointment for me, I liked the ideas but thought the depth was not enough for something which required such long setup and play times and I feel a lot of it could have been streamlined. Think I may have similar issues with Tanares but hopefully not.
Dungeon Universalis I read parts of the rulebook and decided it was not for me. That rulebook needs a few more passovers. It was very poor at giving information in an effective way and the while I didnt play it I got the feeling the pacing of the game would not be very good. If it was cheaper I would have given it a go. Backed League of Dungeoneers so will see how that goes.
Tanares does have a bit of overhead and is fiddly--I keep my game set up permanently in the well of our gaming table.
Just started a traveler group with a friend DMing. Played Marvel Zombie. To me it plays as an easier version of the game. Maybe better as a entry level Zombicide for younger players. Wrapped up Gloomhaven Jaws of the Lion. Very good. Got Wingspan and Flamecraft for Christmas. Both fun games.
Hey I have tanares ultimate. But I found a deal on massive darkness 2 all in. Would you recommend having both? I’m keep long tanares just want to know if you would recommend owning both.
Tanares is the better campaign but is long with around 30 scenarios. MD2 is better as one-offs rather than the campaign and feels really different than Tanares. So if you like one-offs, then grab it!
Hi. Can you recommend a Dungeon Crawler that has agency. Meaningful decision making with low randomness? For reference, Mage Knight and TMB Undertow are some of my favorite games. I bought Shadows of Brimstone FoF and hate it. Does not feel like a game, but more like an RPG. I'm not driving but being driven. I also prefer true solo games. Thanks again.
The game with the most meaningful decision making would be Roll Player Adventures, although gameplay can get a little easy as you progress. You can play true solo but I tend to play two-handed solo because of better synergies and balancing weaknesses.
I have Tanares and League of Dungeoneers coming from their crowd funding. Have you played Dungeon Crusade by Groovus Games Unlimited. I recently received it, but haven't played it yet. GGU is working on a quicker to table/play version. So if 3-4 hours for a game is too long, the new version might be one to consider.
Thanks for sharing your liked dungeon crawlers. We seem to have very similar likes.
I've heard of Dungeon Crusade but have never played it. Is it in the same category as League of Dungeoneers?
Couldn't agree more with you about AT:O. I was so excited after backing it and watching its development but after a dozen showdowns and 40 odd tiles explored in Cycle 1 it just felt like a headache to play and never a joy. So much wasted potential.
I backed chronicles over tanares as they both ks at the same time so we will see how the sequel goes. But i would love to try it out in the future.
I ended up getting rid of Drunagor because the enemies felt too generic to me. I heard the second print fixed some things.
Curious why you dont like massive darkness 2 campaign expansion. Was thinking about picking it up :)
Because the power growth is not as satisfying and it does really feel like the campaign was forced into what is really one-shot scenarios.
ISS Vanguard is my campaign game of the year (even tho it came out in 2022). The story and plot are both crazy! Super epic, and the ship book phase is very unique and fun.
Looking forward to Tanares and Oathsworn 2E
Have you played nova aetas renaissance? The gameplay was super strategic. The campaignes are short so the replay ability is there
No, I really debated backing that when they had their second crowdfunder but decided against it. Did you go all in?
@@gaminggeek241 i did the original campaign and it came with hyperion. I wish I got more after the fact. And I love black rose rebirth so the more content that bounces between both the better
Did you back Dungeon Saga Origins? or have heard of it? Curious what your take on it would be
No, I really didn't like the original Dungeon Saga from many moons back so didn't really look into this--what's your take on it?
Where did you get the tavern walls and windows? 4:03
That's from my 3D Printed board: th-cam.com/video/kfHYBcYenVQ/w-d-xo.html
Sounds like you bounced off 2 games that take a deep investment to play. ATO and DUN are games that you basically need to play exclusively for their duration if you want to enjoy them. They're both amazing, but if you try to juggle them with others you're probably going to have a bad time. They also skew heavily solo.
It is not that I don't agree with the list. It is that you don't have clear the difference between boss battller, adventure game and dungeon crawler.
I have ATO as well, and my biggest gripe is that it feels like they just wanted all the mechanics in a single game. I'd much rather them dial a few things back and make what they have the very best it could be. I actually canceled my Kingdoms Forlorn pledge after playing ATO. I have two kids in the house and I don't own a gaming table. So setting up ATO and tearing it down was another big obstacle that I faced. Maybe once the kids are out of the house in 12 years, I'll have the time and space that it requires.
I would say oathsworn is good, but you complaint about ATO can be appied to oathsworn, the game is a railroaded adventure where your decisions do not matter at all. Good story yes. But it is a railroad, unless some how that changes after the 15th battle. Where I am. But I am guessing not. This does not make the game bad. ATOs problem is its complex for the sake of complexity. Do this add tokens, take cards out of deck add cards into deck, and the labyrinth mechanics of 2 of the "bosses" are not my favorite and are again overly complex, as to I, who reads rule books and plays lots of games, had to watch videos and reread the book to make sure we were doing it right. It is very unintuitive, and the rules don't help along the way. KDM is better, because, its rules systems do not get in its own way. Which personally I think ATO does do. I quite ATO after about 10hrs. When the third boss had the same gimick as the second with the labyrinth tiles. I just didn't have the want to do that 6 more times. Not sure it would be but.... I don't care to find out. ATO story seems neat, and there is definitely open world where you can explore. Those systems seemed neat to me. Anywho. We just started Taneres we are liking it so far.
What is a "eurogame"?
Realistically, Stormsunder won't deliver until 2024 at the very earliest
I'm sure in one of their latest updates they've said it'll be 2025. I'm kind of forgetting about it and hoping it arrives at some point and turns out to be an awesome game.
It’s “No Pun Included” not “No Pun Intended.”
Spoiler Alert : the best dungeon crawler of 2024 is in production at the moment. By me.
I’m disappointed to hear about Aeon Trespass.
me too! given that I've backed it and am hyped! Hope it just clicks for me (and wife), but starting to fear it won't...
Agreed MD2 campaign sucked
Oathsworn seems awesome but it also seems like it’s not replayable, while Tanares Adventures seems to be very replayable (I have both and am looking forward to playing in 2024 or 2025!). Happy new gaming year!
“Fairly delayed” is very, very kind- made the mistake of backing Stormsunder and revised Wild Assent, and will be SHOCKED if either delivers, ever. Oh well, it’s only money, right?!
Yeah neither is every being delivered, I was very fortunate in getting a partial refund for Wild Ascent earlier in the year but they refused to do this for Stormsunder. And to think this is just wave 1 so not even the full game.
A bird in the hand is better than two in the bush...
I fear you are right but I am hopfull it delivers but at this point I might be more surprised when it does then if they run with the money.
Consider it a scholarship fee. The lesson is that out of all the Kickstarter hyping all you get is disappointment and waste of time and money.
I'm sure in one of their latest updates they've said it'll be 2025. I'm kind of forgetting about it and hoping it arrives at some point and turns out to be an awesome game.