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@Doronsmovies The new Faction is to 99% inside of Azeroth. Why? Well, we are getting Nerubians back, furthermore, Titan constructs are in Azeroth as well. On 7:12 if you watch closely on the upper left corner, it looks like a Sword, maybe the Sword of Sargeras woke the Underworld up? Titanforged constructs are getting awake, Nerubians (Old God - Void) minions are getting prepared for war as well, and on the third part, the "Light embraced" humans are getting their place as well. Oh yeah, watch 8:06 Nerubians and in the back is the human banner... What I am implying is, inside of Azeroth, all of the forces of cosmos, could´ve been waging war for centuries, without us knowing anything about it, just until the moment Sargeras (FEL element) stabbed Azeroth, the Jailer (UNDEAD element) "died" and so many souls began their further journey, the Emerald dream (NATURE) was restored (partly), the last of the known Old gods (VOID) got killed, Bronzebeard getting communication with Azeroth (ORDER), One of the oldest Naarus got killed (LIGHT) The Windrunner sisters are going to play a major role again. Furthermore, I wish Arator would get more spotlight, since he is the son of 2 "long lost" characters. Since you mentioned the new Human kingdom was allied with the Kaldorei/Sindorei, he could be the middle man. Furthermore, what if there is a Twilight/Void dragonflight, since one relative of the Windrunners was feeding Twilight Dragons... ugh... so much plot is available.
Yeah you got a point. And also why didn't the legion attack them. They had to be affected by the Legion attack. There's going to be have to be some story to explain that. But they'll say why the draenei never mentioned them it's because the ship was grounded
*In 20 years* Blizzard: "What 8 human kingdoms? We meant to say 9 human kingdoms. On land. There are another 2 underwater and in the sky. And an Empire of kaldorei-vrykul hybrids that are human-like. Not to mention the half human-half orc kingdom that formed on Alternate Draenor after we left. And of course there are the Lightforged humans from space. Can't forget about those."
You know it would make more sense if these forgotten humans were at war with the forgotten/lost Orc clan - The Twighlight Hammer - who after the battle at the tomb of sargeras sailed without direction and were stranded on this lost human isle and then we get 2 new races “lost humans” and “twig light eclipse orcs “
The twlight's hammer became a cult in catacylsm remember? Whatever was left of them is just scattered across Azeroth. The orc clan is pretty much all but destroyed in the broken isles.
@@Demicleas Sadly might not be possible anymore, all this peace making / armistice and carebear bullshit has yet to stop and they have yet to show signs of it stopping. It went downhill ever since they uttered the cringiest battlecry "For Azeroth"...
@@VexLooterYeah it wouldn't surprise me that by the end of the storyline for this new Kingdom they would make peace and obviously the opposing sides would integrate into the alliance and horde respectively despite the fact neither side has any reason for existing anymore. still one can hope.
This Kingdom is likely on Avaloren with the Titanforged heretics, I hope Avaloren is like a merger of Japanese and Arthurian legend that would be super cool
They haven't been found yet because their kingdom is in the clouds like the vortex pinnacle, I mean why not since Dalaran can move around and panda's were shrouded in a mist and the earthen were underground. 🤐
Thought about what would happen if we just took Lordaeron back. What do we do with the stink coming up from the basement? That's gonna take a lot of bleach and Lysol.
E ovo mi se jako svidja! :D Ovo je bolesno dobro! :D Volim te undiscovered teritorije, i slicno! I kao neko ko obozava Sin'Dorei, voleo bih CEO Quel'thalas, znaci, u fullu, i onu unfinished zonu iz Vanille, tamo kad se izglitchuje Stratholme, kao i neke teritorije iz WarcraFT 1, 2, 3 kampanja koje NISU stavili u wOw! :D Prvo neka to sve urade, pa onda mogu dalje! :D
As a paladin player i love all this new human lore but it makes my sausage short heading horde having playable humans but im super ready for war within dragon flight ran its course
We have encountered Humans who are fanatically dedicated to the light tho, The Scarlet Crusade, this is just The Scarlet Crusade 2.0, worse and pointless, why discard a fan favorite villain if you're going to make the same one but scuffed EDIT: Love your work Doronsmovies, didn't want this to look like a hate comment or something
The Ninth human nation could be a federation, Republic, or Communist state instead of a Kingdom. A mix of former Defias, Syndicates, and Scarlet Crusaders?
What we've never been able to perceive is that the world of Azeroth is not a typical planet shape, it's got two big halves with a crack between them. It allows for an infinite amount of things for Blizzard to pull out of their ass.
Pls tell me those humans are the one mentioned at blizzcon. One of the aspect that made humans stand out lore wise, was how decadent they were, they used to hold dominion over a whole continent and by the time we play the game only 3 weakened kingdoms remains and decadent isolated communities. If they are gonna add content bout humans it should only touch a recognition of their origins or how they fare now that their main enemy (the lich king) are gone
Playable Humans for the Horde.. i rather take Gnolls, Ogers, Hozen, Forresttrolls, Taunkar.. you know Races that are allready established WITHIN the Horde for soon decades! (well except the Gnolls but they fit way better and look awesome!)
Though they retcon most of the rpg books lore. One thing I still hope to see is some remnant of the Azotha they are more primitive and savage ancestors of current humans. Would had loved to see more savage humans compared to the more "civilized" kingdoms. And no don't count vrykuls. I mean humans like Azotha who look more like current humans just more primitive.
So... the alliance of the old Arathi kingdom and the High (Blood) Elves...There are many Blood Elves that are still alive that were part of the accord between the two kingdoms,,, so does that mean the Elves still honor bound to these Arathi?
Pff no, only the remaining high elves remain honor bound. The blood elves are no longer bound to the Arathi the moment Kael'thas made them into the blood elves.
You know what this video just reminded me of? What has happened to the version of Azeroth that never got invaded by the Orcs from Alt-Draenor? Garrosh's actions resulted in the Orcs invading our Azeroth instead of the Azeroth in their own universe. I think it is safe to assume that Yrel's light army may well have invaded that version of Azeroth at some point after the Mag'har fled, but that still means 35 additional years without an Orc invasion, and it results in so many questions. This Azeroth would potentially have; A Sargeras-corrupted Medivh who would definitely not be hosting tea-parties. No Lich King. Longer Troll-Human/Elven wars. No Alliance. No discovery of Pandaria, but the Wandering Isle Pandaren would still reach Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms. No Banshee Queen, so no Shadowlands invasion. No Gul'dan to EVER leave his skull around as a powerful portal opening macguffin. So no Legion invasion, nothing to turn Illidan into a demon. ...no sword... And here's where things get worrying. Shattering still happens, on a world with no green Jesus, no Horde, no unity *and* no intense conflicts to battle harden the races that are there other than Troll Wars, which were already proven to not harden the Human's enough to fight off the Orcs. Sargeras still killed the Titans and there are no forces other than Yrel's Light Army to head off to reclaim them. Basically, Yrel's forces are the only one's around to contest the Legion, a Legion that may or may not have found an alternative way to invade Azeroth, and if not, then it's an Azeroth that Deathwing and the Old Gods have stomped over. If you ever wondered why time-travel and alternate realities are risky storylines, ^^^. Yes, there is a lot of potential for alt-Azeroth to have progressed in a similar way, like I said, Sargivh/Mederas would not be sitting around doing nothing. He would still attempt a Legion invasion in some manner, and it could still mirror everything, but I never liked how WoD never ended up being a closed loop.
So this technically works, but the Lord for Demons is really weird, especially Titans because I had read somewhere I don’t know if it was in the game or if it was an interview but if you google it somewhere, someone had said that demons and Titans, and even places like the Shadowlands exist Outside of dimensions, so if a demon is killed in our reality, it also stops existing in the other reality. so if sargeras was locked away in this reality, then their reality people who are affected by him just stopped being affected by him, and suddenly he vanished. It’s a very weird thing, but if you Google it, there is some information that came out of the game or the Lord that says demons and other celestial beings existing multiple dimensions, but they’re all linked so if one dies in the main dimension which is ours, then he is also gone in the other dimensions he exists, which is the alternate realities that could form from decisions that were made, and we’re not made. It’s a very convoluted thing.
7:55 Yeah, that's because it's more BS Shadowlands-style lore that has no basis or connection to anything that came before and might as well be part of a different franchise.
It just seems to me blizzard is losing ideas that’s like saying planet earth we didn’t discover certain people even though we already went around the whole planet of earth this makes no sense
World of warcraft doesn't make any sense... Any race will pretty soon be able to play any class, both fractions will have all races... Story is getting more and more confusing and uninteresting... everything is completely messed up... they completely distanced it from the roots
Why do you sound so excited about this lore-breaking nonsense? Between that and your rampant speculation - based on nothing resembling a fact - I mostly quit watching your vids because they very, very rarely contained any actual information. Being excited about the Horde maybe, possibly, hypothetically, perhaps getting humans tells me all I need to know about what kind of fan you are. After this, I'm just telling YT to stop showing me anything from your channel.
Why should I listen to you? You're basing what is conjecture, and deciding to quit upon that? A logical person would wait for Blizzard to announce something new.
Man i've played for like 10 years about 6 expansions, thats no conjeture. The Game literally sucks compared to any other Game from the market. And Blizzard storytelling is a complete JOKE, they are laughing at us
Gilneas has existed far longer than Stormwind. They were not founded around the same time at all, as the last descendants of Thoradin all left at the same time for rumors of a fresh, fertile land and on that land they founded (did not 'gain their independence') Stormwind. Gilneas, meanwhile, was founded centuries earlier as one of the first satellite city-states to crop up after the Troll Wars. That's a huge gap there, "loremaster".
@@toralyon they don't. That's why they've retconned EVERYTHING. They need to make an official statement that shadow lands actually didn't happen and all of that lore is fake and that they are sorry.
Disagree, wow's lore maybe big but it doesn't hold a candle to some of the bigger works out there, for example warhammer 40k is super giant, and please let blizz devs add things they want to add, thinking they're just adding things to add them is a cringe way of thinking
How can they be the “most powerful” did they beat the old gods, deathwing, the jailer etc. so no not most powerful. Blizzard IS and HAS BEEN a shit story since Legend. It’s pathetic watching WoW become a has been and it’s depressing watching them destroy a franchise I have spent so much of my life playing
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@Doronsmovies The new Faction is to 99% inside of Azeroth. Why? Well, we are getting Nerubians back, furthermore, Titan constructs are in Azeroth as well. On 7:12 if you watch closely on the upper left corner, it looks like a Sword, maybe the Sword of Sargeras woke the Underworld up? Titanforged constructs are getting awake, Nerubians (Old God - Void) minions are getting prepared for war as well, and on the third part, the "Light embraced" humans are getting their place as well. Oh yeah, watch 8:06 Nerubians and in the back is the human banner...
What I am implying is, inside of Azeroth, all of the forces of cosmos, could´ve been waging war for centuries, without us knowing anything about it, just until the moment Sargeras (FEL element) stabbed Azeroth, the Jailer (UNDEAD element) "died" and so many souls began their further journey, the Emerald dream (NATURE) was restored (partly), the last of the known Old gods (VOID) got killed, Bronzebeard getting communication with Azeroth (ORDER), One of the oldest Naarus got killed (LIGHT)
The Windrunner sisters are going to play a major role again. Furthermore, I wish Arator would get more spotlight, since he is the son of 2 "long lost" characters. Since you mentioned the new Human kingdom was allied with the Kaldorei/Sindorei, he could be the middle man.
Furthermore, what if there is a Twilight/Void dragonflight, since one relative of the Windrunners was feeding Twilight Dragons... ugh... so much plot is available.
Unreachable landmass... the draenei got a spaceship.
Yeah you got a point. And also why didn't the legion attack them. They had to be affected by the Legion attack. There's going to be have to be some story to explain that. But they'll say why the draenei never mentioned them it's because the ship was grounded
Unreachable?
We can fly...
😂
😂
Southern Arakkis was unreachable as well, and that was in a very robust interstellar environment.
Somehow... New kingdom has returned
*In 20 years*
Blizzard: "What 8 human kingdoms? We meant to say 9 human kingdoms. On land. There are another 2 underwater and in the sky. And an Empire of kaldorei-vrykul hybrids that are human-like. Not to mention the half human-half orc kingdom that formed on Alternate Draenor after we left. And of course there are the Lightforged humans from space. Can't forget about those."
And If they wouldn't add anything yall would would Talk Shit too
Gnomes be like: 😐
What about Void Humans too?
@@florianmeiner2705 Pretty much what you just said
@@MrKnightTV96gonna be Void Dwarfs first 😂
0:24 Those armor sets looking absolutely insane.
You know it would make more sense if these forgotten humans were at war with the forgotten/lost Orc clan - The Twighlight Hammer - who after the battle at the tomb of sargeras sailed without direction and were stranded on this lost human isle and then we get 2 new races “lost humans” and “twig light eclipse orcs “
Could definitely be a really interesting scenario.
The twlight's hammer became a cult in catacylsm remember? Whatever was left of them is just scattered across Azeroth. The orc clan is pretty much all but destroyed in the broken isles.
Could be an interesting way to re-introduce at least a smaller version of the Alliance horde conflict.
@@Demicleas Sadly might not be possible anymore, all this peace making / armistice and carebear bullshit has yet to stop and they have yet to show signs of it stopping.
It went downhill ever since they uttered the cringiest battlecry "For Azeroth"...
@@VexLooterYeah it wouldn't surprise me that by the end of the storyline for this new Kingdom they would make peace and obviously the opposing sides would integrate into the alliance and horde respectively despite the fact neither side has any reason for existing anymore. still one can hope.
I’m sure khadgar has encountered them since he can fly & port.
Blizzard could ,give those humans to the alliance and add a new body type and then the horde could get the jungle trolls
This Kingdom is likely on Avaloren with the Titanforged heretics, I hope Avaloren is like a merger of Japanese and Arthurian legend that would be super cool
They haven't been found yet because their kingdom is in the clouds like the vortex pinnacle, I mean why not since Dalaran can move around and panda's were shrouded in a mist and the earthen were underground. 🤐
Lordaeron humans famously used zeplins.
Lol anyone wonder how the conversation with the new humans goes when they're like "so what did we miss since leaving?"
Thought about what would happen if we just took Lordaeron back. What do we do with the stink coming up from the basement? That's gonna take a lot of bleach and Lysol.
E ovo mi se jako svidja! :D Ovo je bolesno dobro! :D Volim te undiscovered teritorije, i slicno! I kao neko ko obozava Sin'Dorei, voleo bih CEO Quel'thalas, znaci, u fullu, i onu unfinished zonu iz Vanille, tamo kad se izglitchuje Stratholme, kao i neke teritorije iz WarcraFT 1, 2, 3 kampanja koje NISU stavili u wOw! :D Prvo neka to sve urade, pa onda mogu dalje! :D
You make wow seem so much more interesting than the game really is.
As a paladin player i love all this new human lore but it makes my sausage short heading horde having playable humans but im super ready for war within dragon flight ran its course
Maybe caila's child might be with the Lordareon 2.0 Kingdom on the other side of azeroth.
We have encountered Humans who are fanatically dedicated to the light tho, The Scarlet Crusade, this is just The Scarlet Crusade 2.0, worse and pointless, why discard a fan favorite villain if you're going to make the same one but scuffed EDIT: Love your work Doronsmovies, didn't want this to look like a hate comment or something
and my warrior has got his Lordaeron gear ready to go.
Scarlet Crusade says hi ;)
The Ninth human nation could be a federation, Republic, or Communist state instead of a Kingdom. A mix of former Defias, Syndicates, and Scarlet Crusaders?
I dont play for a while, so, did the undead received a new capital like night elves?
Is Azeroth really Arthasoth???? Arthas has his hands in everything lol.
We are finding an awful lot of mysterious kingdoms on azeroth.
The game needed new zones
What we've never been able to perceive is that the world of Azeroth is not a typical planet shape, it's got two big halves with a crack between them. It allows for an infinite amount of things for Blizzard to pull out of their ass.
@@willythemailboy2 M A G I C.
Pls tell me those humans are the one mentioned at blizzcon. One of the aspect that made humans stand out lore wise, was how decadent they were, they used to hold dominion over a whole continent and by the time we play the game only 3 weakened kingdoms remains and decadent isolated communities. If they are gonna add content bout humans it should only touch a recognition of their origins or how they fare now that their main enemy (the lich king) are gone
Of course these are the ones mentioned at Blizzcon. That would be silly to think its any other once forgotten human civilization
Playable Humans for the Horde..
i rather take Gnolls, Ogers, Hozen, Forresttrolls, Taunkar..
you know Races that are allready established WITHIN the Horde for soon decades! (well except the Gnolls but they fit way better and look awesome!)
Playing as broken and murlocs would also be pretty cool. We don't really need more dwarf and human sub races lol
Though they retcon most of the rpg books lore.
One thing I still hope to see is some remnant of the Azotha they are more primitive and savage ancestors of current humans.
Would had loved to see more savage humans compared to the more "civilized" kingdoms.
And no don't count vrykuls.
I mean humans like Azotha who look more like current humans just more primitive.
If we can get tall humans that aren't overweight that would be great :D
So... the alliance of the old Arathi kingdom and the High (Blood) Elves...There are many Blood Elves that are still alive that were part of the accord between the two kingdoms,,, so does that mean the Elves still honor bound to these Arathi?
Pff no, only the remaining high elves remain honor bound. The blood elves are no longer bound to the Arathi the moment Kael'thas made them into the blood elves.
You know what this video just reminded me of? What has happened to the version of Azeroth that never got invaded by the Orcs from Alt-Draenor?
Garrosh's actions resulted in the Orcs invading our Azeroth instead of the Azeroth in their own universe. I think it is safe to assume that Yrel's light army may well have invaded that version of Azeroth at some point after the Mag'har fled, but that still means 35 additional years without an Orc invasion, and it results in so many questions.
This Azeroth would potentially have;
A Sargeras-corrupted Medivh who would definitely not be hosting tea-parties.
No Lich King.
Longer Troll-Human/Elven wars.
No Alliance.
No discovery of Pandaria, but the Wandering Isle Pandaren would still reach Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms.
No Banshee Queen, so no Shadowlands invasion.
No Gul'dan to EVER leave his skull around as a powerful portal opening macguffin. So no Legion invasion, nothing to turn Illidan into a demon.
...no sword...
And here's where things get worrying.
Shattering still happens, on a world with no green Jesus, no Horde, no unity *and* no intense conflicts to battle harden the races that are there other than Troll Wars, which were already proven to not harden the Human's enough to fight off the Orcs.
Sargeras still killed the Titans and there are no forces other than Yrel's Light Army to head off to reclaim them.
Basically, Yrel's forces are the only one's around to contest the Legion, a Legion that may or may not have found an alternative way to invade Azeroth, and if not, then it's an Azeroth that Deathwing and the Old Gods have stomped over.
If you ever wondered why time-travel and alternate realities are risky storylines, ^^^. Yes, there is a lot of potential for alt-Azeroth to have progressed in a similar way, like I said, Sargivh/Mederas would not be sitting around doing nothing. He would still attempt a Legion invasion in some manner, and it could still mirror everything, but I never liked how WoD never ended up being a closed loop.
So this technically works, but the Lord for Demons is really weird, especially Titans because I had read somewhere I don’t know if it was in the game or if it was an interview but if you google it somewhere, someone had said that demons and Titans, and even places like the Shadowlands exist Outside of dimensions, so if a demon is killed in our reality, it also stops existing in the other reality. so if sargeras was locked away in this reality, then their reality people who are affected by him just stopped being affected by him, and suddenly he vanished. It’s a very weird thing, but if you Google it, there is some information that came out of the game or the Lord that says demons and other celestial beings existing multiple dimensions, but they’re all linked so if one dies in the main dimension which is ours, then he is also gone in the other dimensions he exists, which is the alternate realities that could form from decisions that were made, and we’re not made. It’s a very convoluted thing.
what's the song's title at 5:05?
Probably Battle for Stormgarde ost? Its from BFA, start looking there if i wasn't correct.
Another kingdom and land mass parachutes into the store… facepalm. Like, as if Kul Tiras stayed out of legion invasion didn’t make sense enough.
7:55 Yeah, that's because it's more BS Shadowlands-style lore that has no basis or connection to anything that came before and might as well be part of a different franchise.
Ngl as a horde player I would love to play a human as a horde character
I don't how anyone who cares about the lore still enjoys playing this game
Some of us aren’t just gonna hate the game because we’re being told to do so, I’ll keep paying and playing 🤷🏽♂️
this lore sund like shit. it be shit long time now the lore.
It just seems to me blizzard is losing ideas that’s like saying planet earth we didn’t discover certain people even though we already went around the whole planet of earth this makes no sense
What would make sense? May as well share to the class
World of warcraft doesn't make any sense... Any race will pretty soon be able to play any class, both fractions will have all races... Story is getting more and more confusing and uninteresting... everything is completely messed up... they completely distanced it from the roots
Warlords of Human Kingdom 🙁
Still better than randomly finding out Pandaria exists.
Why do you sound so excited about this lore-breaking nonsense? Between that and your rampant speculation - based on nothing resembling a fact - I mostly quit watching your vids because they very, very rarely contained any actual information. Being excited about the Horde maybe, possibly, hypothetically, perhaps getting humans tells me all I need to know about what kind of fan you are. After this, I'm just telling YT to stop showing me anything from your channel.
We really got Horde humans before GTA VI
The other side of azeroth would be a Perfect opportunity for WoW 2
They would have to make a fresh start and they do not have balls to do that
We should definitively stop giving Blizzard our money...
Why should I listen to you? You're basing what is conjecture, and deciding to quit upon that? A logical person would wait for Blizzard to announce something new.
Man i've played for like 10 years about 6 expansions, thats no conjeture. The Game literally sucks compared to any other Game from the market. And Blizzard storytelling is a complete JOKE, they are laughing at us
Gilneas has existed far longer than Stormwind. They were not founded around the same time at all, as the last descendants of Thoradin all left at the same time for rumors of a fresh, fertile land and on that land they founded (did not 'gain their independence') Stormwind. Gilneas, meanwhile, was founded centuries earlier as one of the first satellite city-states to crop up after the Troll Wars. That's a huge gap there, "loremaster".
horde humans... they are going too far. why not delete alliance already.
that's amazing
so what about gameplay being less brain dead?
Ummm calling bullshit.
The wow lore is getting too deep and convoluted. They are just adding shit to add it now.
They just don't care about the lore anymore prove me wrong
@@toralyon they don't. That's why they've retconned EVERYTHING. They need to make an official statement that shadow lands actually didn't happen and all of that lore is fake and that they are sorry.
Disagree, wow's lore maybe big but it doesn't hold a candle to some of the bigger works out there, for example warhammer 40k is super giant, and please let blizz devs add things they want to add, thinking they're just adding things to add them is a cringe way of thinking
How can they be the “most powerful” did they beat the old gods, deathwing, the jailer etc. so no not most powerful. Blizzard IS and HAS BEEN a shit story since Legend. It’s pathetic watching WoW become a has been and it’s depressing watching them destroy a franchise I have spent so much of my life playing
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