Moving a Mux Site, Increased Capacity, Solar Power
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- During this event we had to cut our own fibers in order to splice in the new pop. Everything went well just a very stressful event.
Moving a mux\demux site. This is a hub\spoke network build where we are upgrading a spoke into a a hub. I think this will be in order DOCSIS, GPON\XGSPON, ME? "splitting a node" , "splitting a pon", "your doing what on saturday?"
Our customers experienced network degradation. There is nothing that makes me sleep worse at night then the night before this needs to happen. My only goal is to make sure no one ever calls about a problem in the first place.
At this site we are installing a hybrid solar\battery system
Excellent (as always) Brice! Don't worry about not filming the move, customers come first. We're all just very grateful you bring us along at all!
Very sorry to hear about the car, people just don't care anymore.
Loving these videos! Can’t wait to see the solar integration! Thanks for your hard work on putting these videos out.
100% there will be a solar, battery video most likely next week
Just found your videos and I am really into them! I am really curious about ISP stuff and there just is not a lot out there on youtube to watch about it. Thanks for the hard work and I look forward to more!
I suggest you go back to like the first 5 videos it really is wild to see how far it's come. I think I started around 40 customer devices and we are passing 700 customer devices in about 2 weeks. Thanks for watching!
@@owenschwartz completely agree. He’s a great guy to learn from.
i like the single fibre mux/demux units. Just as a reminder the odd/even do not classify what is a mux or demux. mux defines putting multiple waves together. Demux means pulling wavelenghs apart. The units you have are combined muxes/ demuxes in the same passive element so 8 bidirectional channels are really 16 channels where you transmit with one wavelength and receive in another hence the A or B side when ordering.
Aditionally you should look into mlag with your Aristas with streched LAGs over two switches you get the redundancy of loosing a switch. And please consider the much newer 7050SX line with somewhat recent EOS.
WOO HOO !! You're moving right along man !! NICE WORK !
Thanks buddy you will have to come down to visit anytime you want eh? :P
solid video, great info love the set up keep these videos coming
Thanks buddy I saw you put some up to at 1 hour I just need to commit on sitting down to watch it.
Hate to see the Benz get hit. But nice work on the move!
I didn't fit in that one all to well anyway :)
Great video! Love seeing the setup
Thanks for hanging out I'm still having fun with it
Btw congratulations on the successful POP move. Sure you feel better now it’s done.
You have no idea really nerve racking to disconnect stuff yourself when your only goal in life to not hear about an outage of any kind.
@@briceperdue7587 Run a WISP/FISP with several hundred customers. I’ve been there, that’s how I know you feel better now it’s done 👍
Great job on the move! I always laugh at the vaults by Oldcastle becuase of.. Crown Castle. Yup doesn't mean Crown Castles in it!
For the Arista management, we just did this yestearday, we moved the management IP form the actual int Management1 to the vlan itself, so
interface Management1
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(yeah theres nothing on it)
But then under the vlan
Interface vlan100
ip address x.x.x.x/x
As long as that vlans tagged upstream, you can manage the switch. Then you don't need that loop cable.
The new POP is a great work in progress. Nice amount of room for expanding the network. Can't wait to see the solar setup and the official UPS system.
That is about what we do I have a vlan setup for snmp and ssh from the core. This was a requirement to setup the switch, the OLT, and have my laptop working. When I leave I take the SFP and little netgear 5 port switch with me for convenience purposes only. Also it's nice to have in a pinch. Thanks for hanging out and yes I'm excited about the solar setup too we will be defiantly taking some video.
Ah so in the case of the 8CH Single fiber out, the C21 (Side A) goes to C22 (Side B). Both of those are Mux/Demux, and the channel refers to the TX wavelength (which is the RX wavelength on the B side). However in a dual fiber out, the channels on both sides are the same (C21-C21) because the TX go on 1 fiber and RX come on another keeping them separate.
The Arista has the DWDM optics in it which transit/receive on certain wavelengths, which goes into the Mux/Demux, then over the dark fiber.
Makes sense now, definitely is a nice easy way to do it IMO, no fancy DWDM gear, just switches, optics and passive Mux/Demux.
Ability to replace the switch, and the optics without even asking permission from the big ciena transponder people. Most people I believe are using the reprogrammable dwdm optic but we are just stocking extras and always using the same channels from pop to pop.
When I used LAG on edgerouter, cpu throttling killed the throughput to less than half of one interface speed.
NxN on the airfiber lineup was good tho, so maybe it works good. 🤜🤛
In the 1.x releases of EdgeOS, traffic through a LAG on the EdgeRouter was not offloaded, so it hit the CPU and that's why your throughput was terrible
Cool video as always
Thanks for watching!
If that POP is an upgrade? How bad was the old one? For battery back up with solar, look into an all in one Delta Pro. I have one with the two extra batteries. 10.8 kWh of storage. I drain mine to 50% every night and fully recharged almost everyday. I have four 545 watt panels connected to it. You can also eliminate your UPS because the Delta Pro is also a 3600 watt inverter.
If u look back about 30 videos you will see that is basically what we putting in a 4000watt inverter with battery and solar
Water tower can also run for a few days without power, that’s why they build towers. Obviously it can’t last forever, but gravity creates pressure or at least a few days to feed the town water system.
As that tank empties though, you get less and less pressure
More on the general idea we are piggybacking slightly on the reliability of another utility. I think as long as we can run for 3-4 days in total outage, Also having a onsite manual start generator to charge the batteries on day 4. Thanks for hanging out for the comment!
Looks to be all in the shade, how effective are the panels with limited direct sun?
The cost of battery storage I think makes the argument. With only 5 hours of direct sunlight it creates an almost 3rd day on battery only power.
Sorry to hear about your car. That really sucks.
Don't tell them but I hardly fit in the car anyway :)
Awesome video. Would you mind sharing the Cyberpower UPS model numbers you've had issues with? I was about to pull the trigger on a Cyberpower UPS but now aren't so sure.
The main thing with UPS's is to change their batteries as the vendor recommends. I was changing the cyber power units every 3-5 years. Pushing past 4 (especially at flakey power sites) usually resulted in bulging batteries.
I like cyberpower, highly recommend.
(Better then APC / tripplite / Liebert IMHO)
For what it's worth, I had about 30 I put in production, not a single dead unit. They've been running good for about 6-10 years. Just gotta keep up with timely battery replacements. I took the first one out of production 5 years ago for a dead battery module, put it in our lab, swapped the battery pack: was running 24x7 for last 5 years.
PR1500 or OR1500 worked great. (We had the 48vdc units)
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@@jamess1787 agreed! CyberPower ftw!
does anyone make lithium ion UPSes yet? Lead acid are garbage when it comes to battery lifetime - just like your lead acid car battery, they're only good for 5 years tops
I think I misspoke some. What I meant was we have really dodgy power here and get surges and lightning issues often. They work just fine but they don't seem as reliable to the APC ones when it comes to lightning. Good news next week we can just move them to the next site as we are installing the new solar battery system.
man its cool to see the progress you guys are making and how much you have learned along the way. Do you think you guys would ever switch over to -48v powered equipment?
there are many pros and cons to using DC direct power for your equipment especially when your using batteries. The problem for us is cost, replacement, and universality. I can walk anyone over the phone how to buy a 100ft extension cord and start a generator. Also I can buy any equipment I want and not have to worry about the DC power support. I think if it was a larger scale pop situation maybe a 100G to a cell tower and you need to power radios too might make more sense. But for 3 pieces of equipment I would like to bring home and work on, move to another location etc.
Are you planning to change that 20 Gbps LAG from the OLT to an MLAG once you get the second Arista online?
This is a spoke on a spoke right this second. The Arista runs OSPF and the links are 100% routed (except mgmt). The plan is the completed ring using dwdm and 10G links. The problem with relying on the mlag is that many customers accept a direct optical handoff and they would be on the luck of the lottery which switch it's on. Ultimately yes your correct we would use mlag once the ring is completed or a second long haul fiber is introduced.
How hard is it to Upgrade a PON-Line? Imagine a Housing Unit with a 32 Splitter already on high speed PON that needs more speed? Is it necessary to dig everything up again, or is it possible to Upgrade the existing Line(s) to be an AON line that can handle a higher throughput per fiber?
You can run GPON 2.5\1.25 1310\1490 and XGSPON 1330\1470 on the same fiber using filters only where your olts are located. Running on the same splitter configs nothing much needs to change on the outside plant.
Are you going to put the 2 PONs from the OLT4 onto the OLT8 so you can get rid of the 4?
Will just keep it for now. Not a lot of reason to cause an outage unless it's absolutely needed
Make a solar installation video
100% it will most likely be next week. 4 solar panels, 4 batteries, and a 5kw controller.
do some basic improvements to increase building's self esteem once you get over the high wire act
100% we are going to paint the outside a non reflective white and the inside we have some base and paint to install to make it look more "bank friendly" :)
How do you handle public ip address to your customers?
Residential get's a IPv4 static as in why would we change it but we don't allow residential to use the public IP on there own equipment. Business can use the public IP on there own equipment included in there service and order additional subnets also. If you want to use the public IP on your own equipment we do it on a case\case basis but the ending is almost always......so you need the public IP because your performing or participating in some type of business.
Oooooof. Ubiquity.
I'm not the biggest fan but look at there OLT\ONU products for GPON and XGSpon. I would never use any routing products from them.
bro you gotta get that google translate app out and start translating the curse words into his language on the spot. 😜
LOL yeah I'ma end up getting like $388 or something cause the car is 45 years old
Why bother with 1G dwdm
3 years ago when we needed to service about 10 customers it made a lot of sense. Now I need to service 1000 on the same fiber so it's a perfect way to upgrade with passive mux
No one should be using FS Gear. its like routing all of our traffic through China
I agree and disagree with you hence why it's on the floor and being removed from the network. I don't think "all our traffic being routed through china" is exactly what is happening. I opened a few units up and it's a broadcom chip under the heatsink. You can install network OSes on them so you don't need to always use FS firmware. But at the same time they had issues we couldn't move forward with.