New Study: Too Much Lifting Shortens Your Life
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Take away: the body is complicated and confounders are everywhere. Nutrition being the number 1 confounder. I found lifting weights every 3 days to failure makes me feel great. I’m in my 60s. “Take care of your body like you will live forever, and take care of your soul like you will die tomorrow.” - St Augustine
maybe roid users in the group with super high training amount per week?
This is exactly what I was thinking.
Certainly this. Extremely high protein and caloric intake is also likely a factor
What group? These are surveys that are paper (or internet questionnaires) given to thousands of fat old people at once. No exercise is even involved.
@@-whackd are you saying these surveys are useless?
I take "roids" and will live to at least 104. how long are you going live?
See Dr. Doug McGuff's book, "Body By Science". Most people lift way too often (frequency) and way too much (volume).
Making life decisions based on meta analyses of studies that are based on short questioners not covering a lot of important variables, what could go wrong.
Shouldn’t even make the video in the first place.
Can’t pump out top quality all the time, gotta make a living somehow.
Should’ve put a better disclaimer.
Tell me you dont know what a meta analysis is
Also , if you work out too often and too heavy , you will mess up your joints all around your body
Happened to me.
It’s takes a long time to build lean muscle mass. Anyone with big muscles has either been doing it consistently for many years or they’re on the gas. Don’t overtrain if you’re thinking long term
@@mark-ge8dr I agree 100%, also want to add, deload week after 4-8 weeks is a must.
Doesnt have that much to do with "big muscles"
I am stronger than most people in this planet , and still get injuries occasionally. Got messed up joints all around my body. If you dont give your tissues enough time to heal , you WILL mess them , simple
no matter how strong you may be
@@mark-ge8dr
Joints need to catch up to the muscles, I train each muscle twice a week the most
Hitting every muscle twice is too much , you are working out even more often than i am.
Rookie mistake.
Probably will get plenty of tendon/joint issues later in life@@lokey987
Maybe it is too much fight and flight and not enough parasympathetic for rest and recovery. This probably becomes more important in the elderly. I have trouble relaxing which shows up in how long it takes me to fall asleep.
This actually makes a lot of sense from my experience. When I was in my 20's, I did weight lifting six days a week and cardio every day. I acquired degenerative disc disease (probably unrelated) and insulin resistance, causing me to gain weight even though my diet and activity were relatively healthy.
Years later, I went keto and began fasting to reverse insulin resistance. Today I work out with kettlebells and heavy clubs two or three days a week depending on where I am in the cycle, and I walk multiple times a day, though I don't do any vigorous cardio (I should work in some HIIT.)
I've found that if I push the bells and clubs too hard too long for too many days, I'm dealing with repetitive stress issues, at 59 years old. I found out I can do fewer reps with heavier weights and do better, but at some point the connective tissue can't keep up with the muscles.
yeah i knew it. I was better off on the couch all day playing PS4 at the time. I do admit that I probably shouldn't have been ordering so much takeout from DoorDash (my favorite was Five Guys double cheeseburger with extra jalapenos and a large side of cajun fries) but at least I wasn't lifting weights and decreasing my lifespan. Lesson learned.
@@AJ-iu6nw Obviously, this destroyed your reading skills.
@@CarbageMannever trust anyone that is too snarky
Consider Kaatsu blood flow restriction bands when lifting
@@tomunderwood4283 Thanks. I used to do BFR. I haven't in a while.
I'm 45 y.o. and the best shape, sleep and feeling best was when I lifted everyday but just one set of each exercise. It was very low volume, but every day. Sprinting, heavy and light lifting every day. Just one set of each exercise. Just eating enough carbs and protein to recover after each workout. I worked out twice a day often. Not training to failure was also a must
What exactly is being measured?
Time under tension?
Time from first rep to last rep?
Thanks Siim! Nice summary. As with anything in wellness, balance is key.
This makes me think reps and sets are the wrong approach. We should likely be training according to time under tension.
interesting point
Do you know if the minutes of lifting are counted as the actual time lifting weights or does it also include rest between sets?
great question
They gave thousands of old people a survey and then they asked them to estimate how much they exercised in a week, and the old people wrote that guess down.
This is the quality of study Siim is relying on.
@@-whackdYeah, I’m not finding this information useful at all. I do 15 minutes of resistance every morning, with two minute rests, alternating across 3 days between upper push/pull and lower body which allows 2 days off per body segment. I feel like this is the absolute minimal I could be doing for benefits, but if you add it up over the 7 days a week I do this, this study makes it seem like my little morning routine is working against me. 🤦♂️
it has to be actually exercising. I lift and rest for 5 minutes. That can't be 6 minutes right there lol
Excellent question which is why my comment above mentioned that exercise duration as a variable is misleading. Depending on the goals of the person and his athletic background, a warm up may consist of more than just 5 minutes on the bike or the treadmill. A warm-up might include mobility work, core work, and dynamic activation drills that are designed to get the body ready for specific exercises.
A warm-down of static stretching and foam rolling is a good way to fast-track recovery but will also take time. Personally, I use rest periods to manage the intensity of the session. Longer rest periods usually mean lower-intensity sessions.
Thanks for your work ☺️
I had a theory about this and it seems It was correct. The reason for this phenomena is because its a highly intensive healing process to regenerate muscle fibers, a lot of power goes into it. Lots of people training overtrain to much overloading their muscle healing to a negative state, and thats when you start to train same muscle groups before they are fully done healing by first flushing out the inflammation,then delivering oxygen and nutrients to muslces, repairing the muscle fiber tares and so on. people train in chronic states of inflammation not knowing any better. If your muscles are sore, that means they aint done healing, but many just push past that pain thinking its normal to train while like that. theres also the fact that everytime you are braking down muscle mass, you are shortening the lifespan of the biological clock inside each cell, shortening the telemeters of the DNA bondings each time it has to regenerate new cells during the healing process.
Theres a balance to proper resistance frequency modalities to keep inflammation down, optimal healing phases, proper volume loading, etc.
Hi. Jacinto Bonilla is a good example. Crossfit athlete of 83 years young. See his interviews when he was is his mid seventies. He does Crossfit 5 times a week since years.
Never too much if you don’t take steroids to be able to lift beyond your joints and tendons maximum capacity.
You are a great man siim land.
I have been doing between 13-16 hours per week of weightlifting.
I like kettlebells, because you get a lot of bang for your buck. Burns a lot of calories in a short time, but I don't do too much of it, I think 40-60 minutesa per week is enough imo. The rest of my exercises are moderate like tai chi or yoga. Good to know you can't do to much moderate exercise, thanks for sharing!
Very well done overview, thank you. I am a big believer in proper rest between workouts, something that is only paid lip service when young. Well, I m not so young anymore and NOW, see its importance and prominence at any age. I really value my weight training sessions twice a week. A wonderful practice for body and mind...
Based on your data, three times per week might be excessive. Resistance training benefits max out between 30-60 minutes per week, and start to reverse after 140 minutes. Sounds like 1-2 30 minute resistance sessions per week are optimal for longevity. I have at most 30 minutes per day for exercise, so after 60 minutes of resistance, that leaves me 150 minutes for zone 2 cardio, VO2 max cardio, stability-balance-flexibility-mobility, etc.
Mike Mentzer spoke of dose in terms of the least amount of effort required to stimulate growth, then recovery, then growth, then dose. Makes sense to limit activity in this fashion as the dose is literally stress.
Dude was a genius
@@battleax4609 The genius died at the age of 49, um... :D
@@MarekKE-ei6ec Looks for Doug McGuff
@@MarekKE-ei6ec 49 is kinda respectable if ur overdosing on steroids and coke with existing heart problems or smth, the man was living it :D
@@Epelisz
...and 98-99% of pro OPEN bodybuilders live to be over 49... Hmm...
I'm 59, play soccer (indoor) twice a week and go to the gym 5 or 6 days per week. Besides, I do at least 12000 steps a day.
Never felt better. 60 minutes a week is very little if you have health and quality of life. This includes very little or no stress, eating right, and getting deep, restful sleep every night.
57 year old male, i do multiple super sets involving push, pull, core, legs 10 reps, 3 sets and 3 total super sets. I do them as a circuit with 5 minutes of interval cardio at the end of each super set then 10 minutes of rest between super sets. I do this 3 days a week. So im basically getting cardio using weights. Then i do walk/run/ pushup intervals the other 3 days a week of around 3 miles.
It seems to me as we get older it needs to be about the combination of functional training with CV included. It works for me.
Here we go again…breaking news! Living too long increases your risk of dying.
It’s always a fight between stress and recovery.
I'm confused about what is vigorous vs moderate? Do you know of a method / system by which to tell the difference?
Examples:
- Deadlifts - Vigorous
- Cleans - Vigorous
- Cleans, presses, Chinups (circuit / light weight) - Vigorous or moderate?
- Jogging - Moderate
- Stretching - Moderate
- Power Yoga - Vigorous or Moderate?
I have 3 heavy lifting days a week, and 4 light lifting mobility days a week. I do similar exercises both days, however on the heavy days I focus on heavy weights, and have longer rests. On light days, I do less rest, more mobility, and I do circuit routines, aimed at repairing my weak points and promoting circulation (M 42). Curious about your thoughts.
How do they calculate the length of time engaged in RT? Do they include rest periods?
The clusters with the oldest people in the world are in rural areas of Japan and the Mediterranean. Their whole life is basically moderate resistance training. They are neither couch potatoes or stiff office workers nor jacked superheroes.
I understood this with years of exercising with weights, just didn't seem to recover enough between training days, gains were lower and immune wasn't great. until I reduced my weight lifting to 2x30 minutes very intense, big weights plus 2x20 minutes of swimming all in one week sometimes all done in two days in a row. What I also learned is taking vitamin E before weight lifting exercise supports my immune, guessing this battles the low(?) grade inflammation caused by intense weight lifting
Repeating a question others have posted: What is 60 minutes of weight training, does it include recovery between sets ? In that case one session per week will be optimal. But somehow i don't think that is correct.
In 60 minutes you can do 60 sets with 1 minute rest or 12 sets with 5 minutes rest. So this study is very ambiguous.
Does this time doing weights only include the time actually doing the sets and not the rests in between? I may train for 40 minutes (including rests) but probably less than half that time actually lifting weights/actually doing the resistance training.
So true. The old timers that used to farm with horses say a work horse never lives as long as one that just hangs out in the pasture.
30-60 minutes of resistance training per week is beneficial for health.
Benefits decrease after 60 minutes and risks increase after 140 minutes per week.
Moderate physical activity consistently reduces mortality risk, even at high levels.
Biggest question is does rest between sets count towards the total exercise count?
See my extensive response to this question above!
can you paste the comment here? i cannot see your comment elsewhere. @@matthewschenker3170
Skeptical of most doctors and their studies these days
I bet the more the better applies to moderate exercise due to its impact on mitochondrial health. You’re probably right that there’s a rate of damage accumulation that, once it exceeds the body’s ability to repair it, causes increased risk of mortality.
Hmm I just started exercising again yesterday and it gave me a headache 😢
5:00 Concerning one‘s heart rate, resistance training might even be a „moderate“ exercise (when considering the rest between the sets), at least when you are training your upper body. So maybe only (intense) cardio, or lower body strength training might count as „rigorous“ training.
Conclusion ❔:
1. Go for a walk as often as possible
2. do moderate cardio and (upper body) strength training as often as you like to, but not excessively
3. don‘t do more than 2-3 hours per week of high intensity cardio (which also might include leg exercises)
Please correct me if I‘m wrong.
Hey siim, what is the definition of moderat activities? Zone 2 training or every step/movement activity I do per day?
That would be my assumption. "Vigorous" must mean an activity where you are breathing heavily - whether RT or HIIT. The whole point of Zone 2 is that you're NOT breathing heavily, and can hold a conversation. I do Zone 2 .on my elliptical three times per week, and the other days I'll do Zone 1 training on my spin bike for an hour or so.
@@aquamarine99911 yes vigorous is clearly zone 5! The question is what is moderate. Zone 2 is real training just not intensiv. Beeing active is another thing...
What kind of split makes sense when it comes to weight lifting? I mean with 3x a week full body you might get more protein synthesis to grow every muscle than a PPL-Split for example but u also might hv more inflammation. So U-L-U Week A and L-U-L Week B might be a smart move since a PPL with training each body part just once per week might not be enough for optimal hypertrophy. Thoughts on this?
Thank you. Most of this makes sense (increasing moderate activity and cardio leads to better mortality) but I am a little surprised at the dramatically worse health outcomes when you go past about 90 minutes of resistance training/week. I hope these analysis control for extreme cases where body builder types are carrying around very large amounts of muscle mass that would make them technically obese and lead to much higher mortality risks. Some of those people also take PEDs, which further introduces serious health issues. If such people are included that could throw off the averages for other lifters.
What exactly does "moderate" mean tho?
But is that 200 mins an estimate of the time in the gym or the time under the weight?
I wonder how they measured the duration of resistance training. Is it with or without the rests?
Realistically, if I'm doing 15 sets in a 1 hour session, a bit over half is resting.
So what exactly is "moderate"? Is there a list of exercises or reps for how to do "moderate" training? Such a vague term
How is this being measured in relation to time? Weight training typically involves rest periods so are they including rest periods or excluding rest periods? if you do a set where your working time is 30 sec and rest is say 2 minutes 30 sec, just to make this easy, that would mean that a 2 hour session is actually "20 minutes of exercise".
Ok, if say 60 minutes per week is optimal, is that 60 minutes per muscle? And then the question of muscles being utilized during squats vs. curls, etc. are not equal.. Does that 60 minutes include rests between sets, and if so how much rest between sets? So many questions here.. What if you do resistance training every day, but work different parts of your body? Upper, lower, etc. 🤦♂️ I do 10 to 15 minutes of pullups one day, pushups the other, then squats, repeat. 7 days a week. Usually body weight with weighted vest, kettlebells etc. It gives each area a few days rest. Is this bad?
From what I hear, 3 1-hour sessions is good.
But how do we measure 1 hour of lifting? Because 1 hour session is certainly not all lifting time
Thanks for the great content as usual but I would take meta-analyses like these with a large grain of salt. Many limitations such as generalization, potential publication bias, a small number of studies to draw from, and the inherent lack of accuracy of self-reporting questionnaires. It's a good start, but I'd like to see more studies that combine moderate to vigorous intensity aerobic exercise WITH strength training and better study design that limits self-assessment error.
Can someone define "too much" and "weight lifting". Also, can the specific source be referenced.
Not clear at all what 60 minutes means for resistance training. Is this 60 minutes where you are fully exerting yourself to the max? Or 60 minutes where you are moderately lifting? I can easily spend 2 hours in the gym taking long breaks between sets.
hey irrelevant, but what are your scientifically based opinions on SARMS? specifically the ones that are known to not have lasting suppressing long term effects. Examples ive come across are Ostarine and LGD 4033. I was mostly skeptical and averse to the idea, but just out of curiosity what is your opinion because it seems safer than most.
I don't see how weight training is classified as "vigorous" exercise. I have a Bowflex M3 and when I start a 30 minute session on it then my pulse is in Zone 1 to Zone 2. By the last 15 mins my pulse is in Zone 4 or Zone 5. My Garmin watch classifies the Zone 2 exercise as "moderate" and classifies the Zone 4 to 5 exercise as "vigorous". When I used to go to a gym I would see men doing 20 to 30 seconds of moving a weight followed by 2 mins of rest.
I wonder if these studies controlled for protein intake. Presumably, the more resistance training one does, the more protein they ingest, which stresses the kidneys and releases more growth factors, increasing cancer risk.
I've always intuitively sensed and understood this. My "ideal" workout schedule is to resistance train every other day, 3 times a week, and light jog the other 3 days. On the 7th day, rest--only do walking, stretching, light chores/yard work, and/or sex.
what is considered moderate activity?
mike mentzer been preaching this since the 70's and 80's. You workout once every 7-10 days, depending on your recovery and train minimum sets and workouts are 15-20 minutes long. You want the myofibillar hypertrophy NOT sacroplasmic fake muscle hypertrophy which most gym goers settle for anyways by going every day to the gym. It's all glycogen loading thus the moment they take a break and don't go to the gym, they loose everything since it wasn't real muscle, THUS most people are stuck in the round bout phenomenon and just not achieving any muscle growth or real strength.
99.8 % dont train like mentzer. Yet they still make progress. Its a miracle isnt it?
Does it only count the sets and reps or also the rest time in between lol ?
What i was wondering. total time under tension, or time from first to last lift?
I think this is a bit flawed. There are a few issues with this data; firstly being that nobody who lifts weights thinks about the time in the gym. Resistance training is more about number of sets to failure. I could do some damage to my muscles doing 5 sets to failure in a day, likely taking a total of 15-30 minutes (and likely less that 6 minutes of actual weight lifting). I could also lift a ten pound weight for hours with no results.
Most likely the extreme end of the lifting scale are likelier to use steroids and are almost certainly eating large amounts of high methionine amino acids, both of which are highly correlated to aging factors.
Some studies also show taking creatine can lower the VO2 max
Of course lifting extremely often also increases injury risk which could lead to immobility. I just don’t think the “cardiovascular strain” argument makes too much sense.
Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) teaches that vigorous exercise may overtax the organs in old age. Hence, for longevity, one should engage mostly in moderate activity such as tai chi and qigong. Modern science, it seems, may soon confirm such ancient wisdom.
Ok so is it total time just lifting or is it going to the gym and i was there for 40 min x 3 per week in terms of total time per week? This is never mentioned. When i go to the gym im really doing 6 to 8 min of actual lifting but am there for about 40 min. Which one are the studies counting? I feel there are some flawed studies out there looking at data like this. Also were they including roid users? Some roid users are going to gym for 2 hours plus at times. They always have health issues and die early this would also skew data if the studies included them
Siim, did you have a video stating that less than 0,5% of men and less than 1% of men DID loose weight when trying?
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Great idea for a topic. I will abide by these results. I'm in my upper 60s and have found for myself that doing too much does not improve the way I feel. Doing too little does the same thing. I used to run everyday, but now just run when I'm in the mood and feeling strong. I also do over 100 chinups/pullups everyday, but this does not amount to much time exercising.
If you're in your upper 60's and doing
that many push-ups & pullups every day, then you’re doing just fine. Frankly, with your calisthenics I wonder if you even need to be lifting heavy weights at all.
100 chin-ups? What's that, 10 sets of 10, or something? That's a huge amount, especially to do every day. Few people could maintain that for long.
@@davidwelburn In the interest of brevity I said 100 per day. My actual schedule is 120 pull ups in sets of 15 on day 1, 140 chin-ups in sets of 20 on days 2(easiest day), and 400 full push-ups on day 3 in sets of 50. I’ve been doing these for a few years and I have gradually increased the amount. It takes me quite a while each day - it’s not like I can do them all at once. I also generally hike/run (mostly hike) around 8 miles every day. I would bike but I can’t control my dog when I bike. I think most heathy people could do this if they have the time and inclination. My biggest problem is that I take a high dose of statins. I’d like to switch to the pcsk9 inhibitors, but they are very pricey. I have very high congenital apob which the statins fully control - my latest apob was 53 without them it would be over 150. I’m pretty sure I would be able to increase my workouts if I could drop the statins, but given the J curve Siim discussed it might not be wise to increase my workouts. I just repeat days 1-3 continuously if I’m not traveling or something which makes it impossible.f
Do you think this doesnt exist in cardio as well. You are pretty stating what long term over training can cause.
Could have told u that I always wondered why the guys from old who were super strong didn’t live into old age
all good things in moderation...
Just throwing some valid points out there.
If you look at a big control group of people who lift most of the week, you’ll have steroid users in that pool of people for sure.
Also alot of obese people who aren’t happy with their body will also lift weights, that could mean that obese people lift weights, and some of those Will die of cardiovascular disease, but that doesn’t mean people who lift get cardiovascullar disease, those same people probably were still better off lifting weights than not.
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Wow stressing out your body ages you?! Who would’ve knew 😮
3x/week lifting weights is too little for me (i'm not talking about longevity)
so basically we need to focus solely in compound movements
there is no time for doing many machines in many angles
I lift weights every single day to feel my best. Any day I feel drained I simply "go through the motions" with very light weight and maybe do some cardio. Just get blood pumping everyday at a bare minimum.
I'm with you both, I train 6 days per week, it's how I feel my best. When I don't train, I just don't feel nearly as well.
This is an interesting study which seems to lack some context. For example, their thesis that increasing time and intensity levels at a certain point reduces longevity with regard to resistance training. It would be important to know the subjects in the study. We're they overweight or were some bodybuilders who consume a lot of food and carry around a lot of mass? This is important because it allows us diferentiate the training itself from other variables that might be contributing to lowers longevity such as to high protein, steroids, too high of BMI, pre-existing medical conditions such as type 2 diabetes and of course genetic predispositions to early death. In other words it might not actually be the training itself that led to the reduction of lifespan. Arnold trained 3-4 hours a day and he is still alive and so is Lou Ferrigno and Frank Zane. They are all in their 70's. We need to consider all factors of a human beings existence as to why they might have died earlier and not conclude one activity done beyond a certain amount of time is the sole purpose of lower longevity
At this point you can’t do ANYTHING anymore 🤦🏼♂️
agreed. longevity is important, but these people are going way too far
😂
The body’s rejuvenation systems are not “infinite”
Who's figures are these, where do that come from ?
Were these trained or untrained subjects?
Did the studies mention the background of the participants? People who consistently lifted weights into their 50s should have a different level of fitness compared to those who weren't as consistent or to those who just started.
I also think the duration of exercise per week as a variable factor is misleading. The amount of time spent in a workout session can be broken down into warm-up, progression, rest periods, working sets, accessory work, and warm-down/recovery.
For example, a warm-up session isn't just riding on a bike for 5 minutes. It might include mobility drills, core work, and dynamic activation drills that could take anywhere from 15 to 45 minutes. As a Powerlifter in my mid-50s, it takes me 45 minutes to get warmed up and ready to handle an empty bar. The lifting progression might need 6 to 8 warm-up sets to get to my top weight before I drop off 80-85% and do 4 sets of backdown work. Then, there's accessory work. Overall, a typical PL workout could last 3 hours. I train 5 days a week. Instead of cardio, I do GPP for 10-15 mins 2x a week.
Rest periods can be used to moderate the level of intensity. I can work up to a top set equivalent to 90% of my 1RM but because the rest periods are longer, I'm not as fatigued as someone who does HIIT with a lighter weight. Intensity can also be moderated by mindset. The Eastern European strength coaches would teach their athletes not to psych up or take stimulants when training to manage training intensity even if they're lifting up to their max numbers.
All told, I do more than 900 minutes of resistance training per week and no steady-state cardio. I have no medical issues and I'm not taking maintenance meds. And it's not just me. I have friends in their 60s and 70s who do similar routines where cardio is like an afterthought. And we're in better shape and state of fitness than those who spend 150 minutes on the treadmill or bike per week.
Lastly, the type of resistance training needs to be considered. In Powerlifting, our training is based on RPE and percentages of 1RM. We don't train to failure, but in a contest cycle, we try to reach a level of fatigue in 6 weeks of training. Bodybuilders and Crossfit athletes train to failure and their sessions are much more intense.
While I did enjoy and found value in your content we have to be careful about what we share with the community. The context must be thoroughly established because the last thing we want is to confuse and discourage people from exercising. It's like Paul Saladino talking about oatmeal as if it's the worst food you can eat.
Huuuummmmmm?!? 🤔 What about the research From Westmead Institute?.
Lead researcher, associate professor Bamini Gopinath from the University of Sydney, said the data showed that adults who did more than 5,000 metabolic equivalent minutes (MET minutes) a week, which is about 10 hours, saw the greatest reduction in the risk of chronic disease.
“Essentially we found that older adults who did the most exercise were twice as likely to be disease-free and fully functional,” she said.
“Our study showed that high levels of physical activity increase the likelihood of surviving an extra 10 years free from chronic diseases, mental impairment and disability.”
This video was about resistance training not cardio
Vigorous Steve
Let's read findings in studies and assume they are correct.
I’ve stated several times on this channel that the weight lifting is detrimental. Studies of the oldest people indicate three main factors for longevity. 1. plenty of sleep (no shift work). 2. low stress life style overall. 3. Low BMI, none of them are big or overweight, nor did they ever generate a lot of muscle.
Cool..now how about health span not life span
When I'm old I want to be strong enough to do what I want
@@slee2695 There is no evidence that high levels of athletic performance enhance health span. There are no high performance athletes who reach extreme ages or even exceed the average lifespan so it would stand to reason that they would also fare no better in relative health outcomes. Moderation is the key.
@@marktapley7571 stop moving goal posts.. you made a bold claim that lifting weights is detrimental...meanwhile grip strength is one of the hallmarks of longevity
Should exclude any power lifter or body builder. All use of performance enhancing drugs also.
Unless these studies control for steroid use, these increased HR means nothing in the highest quartile. It's just a basis for future studies to look into with various controls. Those who do the most exercise are the most likely to be on steroids. I don't see anything in this study showing they controlled for steroid use unless every study they selected already did so. I think this is unlikely.
Resistance training in min/week... obviously these "researchers" aren't lifters themselves. Lifting is about volume*amount of weight to define intensity.
And there's the "we actually don't know the underlying mechanisms that drive the u shape".
In sum, junk science. Ignore.
Better to focus on bone density, muscle mass, VO2 max as a result of resistance training to have a proper indication of health and longevity.
I know all life hacks when it comes to longevity thanks to your videos. You are simply the best on this field. But you haven't covered a delicate field so far: Sex. You put your blue-blocking-glasses on at about 8.30 pm. Do you really have sex with waring those glasses? How do you plan your sex so it is best for your longevity? More zone II workout style or rather HIT? Is it maybe part of your morning routine?
These might been non-serious questions but these questions are really the last ones I have to answer to have the perfect longeveity routine.
.... and do you tape your mouth during sex in order to maintain nose-breathing?
@@joseflondon1704 I tape my partners hands and ankles but I dont think that counts
are we talking about time under tension?
60 min if you do 3 min breaks is like nothing.
example: 1 min time under tension followed by a 5 min break would make an hour of workout with only 10 sets.
also if you do lower weights higher reps...
so many questions! i mean you could F up your muscle and harm yourself with one hard core set.
133 hours of training per week, wow
Did these studies account for people on steroids?
Body by Science by Doug McGuff MD and John Little quote studies that say the optimal amount of time to do resistance training is 12 minutes a week. One set to failure for 5 exercises. Anything more is a waste of time and could even lead to injury. This book is 3 years old and I don't know why it isn't more widely talked about. I guess the "community" would lose their incomes.
BBS is a great resistance training protocol for all ages and is one of the safest methods over the long term. McGuff and Little are on the mark. Sadly, Siim's video is meaningless in that the variables he discusses are not defined and normalized (apples to apples). For example, what defines the duration of a workout? Time at the gym including rest between sets, or time actually under load where the muscle is actually being stressed. Is a set/workout considered complete when an arbitrary number of reps at an arbitrary load is completed, or is it when momentary muscle failure occurs within a specific number of reps at a certain cadence? This video and the "studies" referenced are meaningless because the is no definition of the variables involved. Siim needs to have something to talk about so he can get clicks, but this video, like most of his and other "influencer's" videos are all foam and no beer, but worse, they are misleading.
Maybe the resistance training group ate more and puts a burden on their cardiovascular disease. As you train more and harder you get more hungrier. And this same J curve is shown in intensity as well over relaxing. Should you lift often? Yes. Should it be for long periods of time? No. You switch to aerobic which has a cardio vascular positive effect.
Too Much water kills u aswell
i'm really sad with the results of last researches
the basics is too much
an hour a day 5 ou 6 times a week of lifting weights
that's why I do calisthenics
Like weight lifting itself, so many variables.
I’m 64.
Hit weights 4x a week, weight workout time approximately 7-8 hours per week, feel great.
However I do Sauna post-workout, seem to have fast recoveries.
My typical blood pressure averages 116/60 with pulse in mid 50s most days.
Not doing much cardio, just waiting on my knee to finish healing from a strain.
My thoughts are that perhaps people who lift everyday spend most of their time in MTOR which limits AMPK/Autophagy.
Intermittent fasting is habitual for me, that said, many weight lifters still eat 5-6 times per day.
For me, not focused on getting big/jacked.
Something tells me staying within 10-15 pounds of ideal weight is probably optimum.
Way I see it, set high goals, hit 80 percent, great, 90 percent plus, awesome, raise the bar.
70 percent-need work, below 70, refocus/group.
ARNOLD & LOU Say What You Smoking.
But what if you have taken mRNA injections that are contaminated with DNA. Can you still exercise as much?
far right conspiracy troll?
@@RandomGuy-lu1en uhm more like "trust the science" troll?
@@moxigen science is literally the focus of the channel you are watching now 😆
@@RandomGuy-lu1en no, it is longevity and health. how could you miss that one?!
@@moxigen yeah but longevity is achieved and tested via science. Not pseudoscience and conspiracies.
Max 1 hour a week max for resistance training?
What da??? 😮
So crossfit?
Who the heck is doing 800 minutes of training/week