Excellent presentation. None of the fluff, regurgitation of propaganda and unsupported guesses that have plagued TV documentaries right back to the ‘World at War’ series and its accompanying publications, from the 1970s onwards. This is a key reason why, I have watched Nicholas Moran for years.
There had to be some vicious flora and fauna back in the day in Germany, they had to arm all their agricultural tractors 🙃 Very infromative video, thank you!
Chieftian nice to learn the unit behind you in the shadow box, being a member of 3/11 ACR Bad Hersfeld W. Germany 1985-1988 Leadhorse Troop 2nd plt Red 5 Gunner
The biggest difference between the German's III's and IV's - and other nations tanks - was that they had 3 man turrets. Gunner, Loader and Tank Commander. The Germans appreciated that these were all separate jobs that required a dedicated person to perform them. The Gunner needed to be concentrating on aiming the gun. The Loader needed to be concentrating on keeping the gun loaded with whatever type of round was needed at the moment. The Tank Commander had to be directing the Driver - where the tank should be going and looking about to see what he could see about the current tactical situation they were in. Another aspect the larger turrets gave these tanks - was it made room for up gunning the tanks. The French Tanks - while being good vehicles in many ways - had 2 man turrets ... So - they had at least one person doing two jobs and their efficiency as vehicles suffered because of it. The Russian tanks also had two man turrets - but - the later models of the T-34 had not only better guns - but - 3 man turrets. Pretty much everyone came to have a 3 man turret as their standard. Also ... The German's had the best Army in the World because of the Prussian General Staff. The epitome of these Staff Officers was one who refused to do what his King was ordering him to do. _"Tomorrow you may have my head Sire, but today I intend to use it in your service."_ Or _"I know what I'm doing - you don't - so STFU - and fire me later if you want."_ Because of this - they had the best Operational Level Military in the World. Unfortunately for them - they were a Land Power - not a Sea Power - and the Strategic Thinking of their Leadership sucked shit. _"Lets Go Through Northern Belgium! We can sweep through that nice flat terrain, come right down on Western France and not have to deal with all that rough terrain on our border like in 1870!"_ _"But, Sir ... The British have guaranteed Belgium's Neutrality. If we got to war they can blockade us!"_ _"Pfffffffttt!! We'll have the war by then!"_ . . . . . .
Regarding French tanks, I think it was even worse. Somua S35, B-1, R-35... all had one-man turrets (at least one author I have read said the best they could do was having another man standing ready to provide ammo to the commander/loader/gunner, making them - I kid you not - 1 1/2 men turrets)
What influence did all the tank breakdowns during the Austrian Anschluss have? I have read that this experience put the Germans ahead in terms of field maintenance, recovery and the use of transporters compared with the French in particular. Is this true?
Chieftain, why so few images of the subject matter and why are those shown done so briefly? For me, that detracts from the value of the content (tho I am auditorally challenged).
23:28 Excuse me, when was this Video filmed? Last time i checked, he allready did Inside the hatch on Pz III and IV, or does there come a new one of them?
About five years ago. The Weald Foundation has been reaching out to prominent Armored History TH-camrs to republish select videos from their channels and Chieftain's video remains one of the best on the topic of Interwar Tank Development for the German Armed Forces, so it got the nod.
Question for the Chieftan on the 5 man crew: It seems the optimal crew for a tank in the 1940's was 5 men, 2 in the hull, 3 in the turret. 1. Commander (turret). 2. Loader (turret). 3. Gunner (turret). 4. Driver (hull). 5. Bow gunner/radio operator (hull). This was first developed by the Germans Panzer III, Panzer IV and then the American Sherman. Questions: Did the Germans and Americans develope this independently of each other? If not, who got the idea from whom? I would assume the Americans learned this from the Germans because the Panzer iII and Panzer IV were first used in 1939 and the Sherman in 1941, unless they happened to come up with the same idea independently.
The British Medium Mark I was the first tank with a three man turret back in 1924 or 1925. Speaking about the first mass-produced three-man turret, the Soviet T-28 it is (1932). Panzer III and IV are like 1934. Also, do you really think that the all-mighty Hitler would allow sharing armor development with his great enemy, the USA? And also, learn to read, please. This video is a re-upload of a video from a different channel from like five years ago.
while I agree that Guderian played up his influence I do believe he played a bigger role than he is given credit today, after all he did write Achtung Panzer in 1937 after Lutz requested he do so, and why in God's green earth would a guy that only contributed by demanding radios in tanks be asked to write a book on tank warfare? How much was Lutz and how was Guderian, nobody can say today its all just opinion and usually based on your opinion of Guderian, good or bad. It is obvious by his selection to lead the armor into Austria that he was considered 'the panzer expert' by the general staff. Guderian is much too emotionally and intellectually involved in the performance of the panzer troop to the point of committing insubordination for him to have been just a lacky.
Thanks Nick
As they indicate in the description, this is just a reposting of a older (5 year old) video The Chieftain put up on his own channel.
Kinda sucks it's so covertly mentioned
It is mentioned straight away on the first line of the video description :)
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Your youtube page doesn't work. If i use the About link, i can access it, but all other links to it ends up giving a 404 error.
Excellent presentation. None of the fluff, regurgitation of propaganda and unsupported guesses that have plagued TV documentaries right back to the ‘World at War’ series and its accompanying publications, from the 1970s onwards. This is a key reason why, I have watched Nicholas Moran for years.
Once again another fantastic presentation by the Chieftain.
This was made for WW2 in real time back in Sept. of 2018. They asked him to make a series of these. Go check them out.
Another great video full of understandable information from the Cheiftain. More please.
Great presentation and I think you doing these type of videos is long overdue. Want MOARRRR!
Great video! Very informative. Well researched. Looking forward to more in the series.
Your best video (series) yet.
terrific stuff, thanks!
🎖️💪🏆🙏💙
Thank you for sharing this
Nice overvieuw, also about the real men behind the Panzers
A 1RTR rugby shirt? That must be a bit of a collectors item now :)
There had to be some vicious flora and fauna back in the day in Germany, they had to arm all their agricultural tractors 🙃
Very infromative video, thank you!
Good info, thanx.
Chieftian nice to learn the unit behind you in the shadow box, being a member of 3/11 ACR Bad Hersfeld W. Germany 1985-1988 Leadhorse Troop 2nd plt Red 5 Gunner
24:53 Is there a video coming of the reconnaissance Armored Cars / Schwere Panzerspähwagen 222, 231 (6-Rad), (8-Rad) and such?
We will be working on some. Keep an eye out on our channel.
The biggest difference between the German's III's and IV's - and other nations tanks - was that they had 3 man turrets. Gunner, Loader and Tank Commander. The Germans appreciated that these were all separate jobs that required a dedicated person to perform them.
The Gunner needed to be concentrating on aiming the gun.
The Loader needed to be concentrating on keeping the gun loaded with whatever type of round was needed at the moment.
The Tank Commander had to be directing the Driver - where the tank should be going and looking about to see what he could see about the current tactical situation they were in.
Another aspect the larger turrets gave these tanks - was it made room for up gunning the tanks.
The French Tanks - while being good vehicles in many ways - had 2 man turrets ... So - they had at least one person doing two jobs and their efficiency as vehicles suffered because of it.
The Russian tanks also had two man turrets - but - the later models of the T-34 had not only better guns - but - 3 man turrets.
Pretty much everyone came to have a 3 man turret as their standard.
Also ...
The German's had the best Army in the World because of the Prussian General Staff. The epitome of these Staff Officers was one who refused to do what his King was ordering him to do.
_"Tomorrow you may have my head Sire, but today I intend to use it in your service."_
Or
_"I know what I'm doing - you don't - so STFU - and fire me later if you want."_
Because of this - they had the best Operational Level Military in the World.
Unfortunately for them - they were a Land Power - not a Sea Power - and the Strategic Thinking of their Leadership sucked shit.
_"Lets Go Through Northern Belgium! We can sweep through that nice flat terrain, come right down on Western France and not have to deal with all that rough terrain on our border like in 1870!"_
_"But, Sir ... The British have guaranteed Belgium's Neutrality. If we got to war they can blockade us!"_
_"Pfffffffttt!! We'll have the war by then!"_
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Regarding French tanks, I think it was even worse. Somua S35, B-1, R-35... all had one-man turrets (at least one author I have read said the best they could do was having another man standing ready to provide ammo to the commander/loader/gunner, making them - I kid you not - 1 1/2 men turrets)
What influence did all the tank breakdowns during the Austrian Anschluss have? I have read that this experience put the Germans ahead in terms of field maintenance, recovery and the use of transporters compared with the French in particular. Is this true?
Chieftain, why so few images of the subject matter and why are those shown done so briefly? For me, that detracts from the value of the content (tho I am auditorally challenged).
I have no trouble hearing but I agree. If you have pictures and can show them, please show them for longer time
Re: the army vs air corps situation in the USA. Any videos to recommend?
History lecture.. Woo-hoo! grabs large bucket of popcorn and tucks in.
23:28 Excuse me, when was this Video filmed? Last time i checked, he allready did Inside the hatch on Pz III and IV, or does there come a new one of them?
About five years ago. The Weald Foundation has been reaching out to prominent Armored History TH-camrs to republish select videos from their channels and Chieftain's video remains one of the best on the topic of Interwar Tank Development for the German Armed Forces, so it got the nod.
Given your extensive hands on review of tanks what sort of budget option would you recommend for my first purchase.
Question for the Chieftan on the 5 man crew:
It seems the optimal crew for a tank in the 1940's was 5 men, 2 in the hull, 3 in the turret.
1. Commander (turret).
2. Loader (turret).
3. Gunner (turret).
4. Driver (hull).
5. Bow gunner/radio operator (hull).
This was first developed by the Germans Panzer III, Panzer IV and then the American Sherman.
Questions:
Did the Germans and Americans develope this independently of each other?
If not, who got the idea from whom?
I would assume the Americans learned this from the Germans because the Panzer iII and Panzer IV were first used in 1939 and the Sherman in 1941, unless they happened to come up with the same idea independently.
The British Medium Mark I was the first tank with a three man turret back in 1924 or 1925. Speaking about the first mass-produced three-man turret, the Soviet T-28 it is (1932). Panzer III and IV are like 1934. Also, do you really think that the all-mighty Hitler would allow sharing armor development with his great enemy, the USA? And also, learn to read, please. This video is a re-upload of a video from a different channel from like five years ago.
Cool shirt
Is this a repost
27:27
That is a "Heil Five", not a "not a High Five".
..."after a few receiving ends"?...the ppl of the British Isles have a dam good sense of humour...
while I agree that Guderian played up his influence I do believe he played a bigger role than he is given credit today, after all he did write Achtung Panzer in 1937 after Lutz requested he do so, and why in God's green earth would a guy that only contributed by demanding radios in tanks be asked to write a book on tank warfare? How much was Lutz and how was Guderian, nobody can say today its all just opinion and usually based on your opinion of Guderian, good or bad. It is obvious by his selection to lead the armor into Austria that he was considered 'the panzer expert' by the general staff. Guderian is much too emotionally and intellectually involved in the performance of the panzer troop to the point of committing insubordination for him to have been just a lacky.