@@holyflame2 Notice how you would have been able to leave this thread with cool facts without spreading negativity? And how you still chose to make this about you disliking something instead of appreciating those cool facts? Yea, exactly. Its useless and just annoying at this point
Vader snapping that kid's neck was horrifying. Like, yeah, he killed the Younglings, but he thought they were too far gone and he was saving them, being "merciful". But THIS!? My god. How cruel. And then to just leave the mother with a dead husband and son. I still can't believe Anakin was gonna be a father himself. I can't believe Vader found affection for Luke and Leia in the end!
Fun fact: Obi-Wan remembers he had a brother possibly. IRL, Ewan really does have a brother. He's a pilot in the Royal Air Force and the callsign he was given is "Obi-Two." 😉🤣
Wonder if the whole "Close your eyes to see the Path" will be a metaphor for Obi-wan to not 'see' Vader as Anakin, but just as a machine; as OWK says in ANH: Don't trust your eyes, they deceive you - that's not Anakin anymore.
Chris "I know more about star wars than you" Johnson: "He's naked under there?" It's actually pretty intense though. The original suit didn't fit right, so it would rip his skin off and cause constant agony. Sideus had a newer version that fit better, but Vader refused, because the pain made him stronger in the dark side. So some of that mutilation you see is from his suit.
For me, the infighting between the Inquisitors beautifully illustrates why the Sith instituted the Rule of Two in the first place. Anytime there's more than one master and apprentice around, they just kill eachother for power/control, and it hurts their overall agenda. *And yes, I know the Inquisitors aren't technically Sith.
18:04 I haven’t seen anyone point this out but the reason he activated his lightsaber was to feel safe as it was very dark. He immediately turns it off and runs once he sees Vader again. Obi-Wan explained this earlier in the episode to Leila, about darkness and feeling safe when the lights are on.
@First Name Last Name Which parts are aganist the cannon? This is just to show how weak Obi-wan is right now. And how much stronger Vader is, and reiterate how big of a threat he is. Hayden said they have a fight scene similar in intensity to ROTS fight. So, it's easy to spectulate Obi-wan will get close to where he was. regain his humor and hope like he has in a new hope. And manage to lose just about all of his fighting skills again by a new hope. They're kind of boxed in with what all they can do. I'd rather have the show, flaws and all, then nothing at all. If you don't like the cannon, try and pretend the show never happened. Like I do with the season 8 of GOT that just never seemed to have been made.
The parallels between Obi Wan and Luke's journey in TLJ are interesting. They both had a student they loved, and therefore could not be impartial. They both failed their respective students and when it all went to shit, they both sent themselves onto exile. The new trilogy had a lot of errors i.e. flow, etc but leaning on the parallels, had Rey been a Kenobi having to save Ben and succeeding, it would have been fascinating. Like the breaking of a cycle.
Remember the surfer dude jedi with the dreads that Obi went on an adventure with for an episode of clone wars? They were looking for Ziro. That’s the jedi Obi named in this episode as having cone through the safe house. Quinlan Vos. He survived Order 66! I mean we knew that already, a book confirmed he survived, but that was it, not what happened to him afterward
Well we technically know what happened to quinlan vos in legends but since were in canon only disney will tell what really happened afterwards also sad none of them even picked up on the quinlan vos reference
I subscribe to the theory about Vader's hands and how serious he is. If he's using one hand, he's not serious and is toying with someone. Two hands? That's when you know he's serious.
Yeah his injuries changed everything. The way he used the force since the force moves through living matter and now it's less living matter on his body. His whole sabre style changing to accommodate his missing limbs and bulky body. On top of the constant pain he felt. Palpatine purposely made the suit painful as a punishment for Vader's failure against Obi-Wan.
One thing I’ll always miss about the prequels is the lightsaber effects. The swaying afterglow effect after a saber swing was always cool as heck and, added distinct character to lightsaber duels.
Yeah. They’re literally just using practical glowing sabers now. I understand it’s cheaper, and looks almost identical to a cgi blade,but cgi blades just had a flair to them physical that ones don’t.
Vader actually has a lot more skill using his lightsaber than people give him credit for. He is canonically ranked as the number 1 Sith duelist according to some databooks, and he has the feats to back this claim. Obviously he had to relearn lightsaber combat to better suit his new body, but his core basics were the same. He already relied on heavy power blows as Anakin, but he would make up for gaps by substituting any lack of precision with blistering speed. Vader does the opposite, taking a page out of both Dooku's and ironically Obi-Wan's book, and relies on perfect precision to make up for his lack of mobility. We see this frequently when he's actually serious about a fight. He'll often employ quick thrusts and slashes to feel out the metaphorical chinks in a Jedi's armour, before choosing to either lay off and just play defense to get a feel for their offensive capabilities, or just gun it and overwhelm them with a barrage of crushing blows. This is a formula we see him repeat during the OT. If he isn't taking an opponent seriously though, he'll just kinda lazily hack away at them like he did in this episode. But yeah, Vader's strength, precision, and force combo is absolutely no joke. Which we love to see.
Thanks for more insight. I love Vader’s character and hate to see people judge him to harshly. There is lots of evidence showing that he’s not some over glorified monster. He actually has lots of skill and talent.
I wouldent take those databooks as 1 to 1 factual. Vader is still a top tier duelist but Matt Martin has talked about how those rankings in the databook are more like sport rankings. They are not definitive and the reason they exist is simply because the book had a need for it. Someone in spot 4 can still beat someone in spot 1 in the right situation.
You say that, but in this show he shows NONE of that. Dude is just using it like a club. Somehow the choreography is worse here than in the sequel movies
@@AbsurdFalcon I agree actually, I think feats are far more valuable than statements made by authors. In this case I was just trying to demonstrate that Vader is a better duelist than he's given credit for.
@@Crispifordthe3rd515 I mean take it as limitations on the part of acting but lore wise he’s faced numerous master-council level Jedi in combat. Vaders as a saberist canonically speaking is top tier.
They used a voice synthesizer AI program to generate Darth Vader’s voice by using all existing recordings of Jones’ sessions for the three films. That said James Earl Jones did record the lines for Kenobi for the AI to follow so it flowed more naturally. But what you hear is 100% digitally generated.
@@Commander_Shepard. i think he did for rogue one but you can tell his voice has change cause of his age. Its impossible to make your voice sound younger naturally, so AI is needed.
I thought it was ridiculous that they escaped vader by making a 20 foot wide fire wall in the middle of the desert. Like Vader couldn't just walk around it? I was so confused at that moment, everyone just walked away lmao
I’m with Chris some people care a little TOO much about getting things wrong. Like he isn’t an expert none of them are so what do you expect. They haven’t watched every show read every comic read every book in the Star Wars canon lore. You can correct them and let them know you don’t gotta be rude.
I hate that Moses Ingram is getting so much hate mail/tweets. She's doing such an incredible job (in my opinion) on this show, I'm definitely a fan! Maybe it's because I can partly relate to her character of Reva. Were I in her position, I'd be doing the same shit. I've been a SW fan since I was 10 years old, in 1977. I've enjoyed pretty much everything they've done so far (though Episode VIII was kinda sketchy at first, it DID end up growing on me)... but I'm loving this show. Absolutely LOVING IT!
Prople are really sending her hate mail? Wtf? Even if one doesn't like the character they shouldn't attack the actor. Some people are fucking dumbasses
It's really, really cool and hilarious that this character is *so* much of a cultural icon that already commands respect with even just his presence that it's absolutely terrifying just watching the guy get up, shower, get dressed, and head to work. The "actions speak louder than words" is a pretty solid theme here that works into all of the little subplot threads in some clever and unique ways. Like the loading droid - it's a Worker Droid, not a Protocol Droid - it has no real need to speak. ("But what if he has something to say?" "He will say it with his actions.") Stormtroopers just write him off as too stupid or non-sentient to understand, while this droid was actually a ride or die homie ready to start cracking skulls with an ax at the drop of a hat. Compare that with the Uber Driver Walrus played by Zack Braff - he seems pleasant enough, he speaks with kindness, he's polite, and friendly, and comes across as legitimately helpful. But he still just drives them right up to the Stormtroopers and throws them under the bus, nonchalantly. Obi-Wan doesn't want little miss to talk - "I can't talk, or I don't talk?" "You don't talk." "Yeah, but we need to talk to this guy so that we can get some help." And though it was a bumpy ride, little miss knows how to improvise gracefully, being raised as the daughter of *SENATOR* Bail Organa and *QUEEN* Breha Organa. So they have this playful "I know *who* she's like," banter that highlights Leia's understanding of these things - but this is 100% about the Legacy of Padme Amidala, who was both a *Senator* and a *Queen* . Then Reva and the Dejected Green Mushroom Inquisitor have a pissing contest about taking initiative vs taking advantage, and ultimately come across as two petulant siblings trying to snitch on each other to Dad who doesn't give a shit. "I just went and spoke to Darth Vader, buddy, you're SCREWED." "Oh, yeah? Well *I* already informed Lord Vader, and he gave me a cookie." And to cap it off, Vader is obsessed with getting revenge on Kenobi, but there's a sense of meta-aware insecurity to him, as if he was wary of being criticized for his Rogue One puns and generally petulant nature from the prequel trilogy. So he just walks up, menacing as shit, and then suddenly just STOPS. There's a small beat in which I'm pretty sure everybody watching at home was like, "He's about to say something stupid, isn't he?" And the guy flips the freak out - "QUIT MAKING FUN OF MY DIALOGUE!" and starts snapping necks. And more power to him, because even I had to agree that Vader, in this episode, had one of the sickest burns in the fantasy -- easily way better than, "Be careful not to choke on your aspirations."
I loved how everyone was saying "oh he's just a loader, he doesn't understand anything" and this thing totally analysed the whole situation perfectly lol
This ep was a big step up from the last two for me! Just wished they pulled off Tala’s rescue a little cooler. I know troopers are bad but missing 50 shots from like 20ft away and Vader letting them go was a little weak.
I think it was more of Vader letting them go to track them back to their base. We’ll have to see in the later episodes, but it was a little weird to me as well
@@Nekotaku_TV I think he enjoys the chase a little bit plus at this point he knows obi-wan is no threat to him with how broken he is now so Vader can enjoy torturing him and watching him try to run and cower away from him. Vader himself is also just dramatic he does things in a roundabout way that really isn’t the easiest way for him but instead gets the most fear out of people.
"After 10 Years of searching, I finally have you where I want you Obi-Wan .....but I have an appointment and can't walk 10 feet to capture you, so I guess you just got away ......"
All my friends and I were screaming when Obi-Wan stinkin' namedropped QUINLAN VOS!!! If Vos doesn't show up to rescue Obi-Wan and chibi Leia next episode, we're all gonna be throwing tantrums over here XD Give us live-action Quinlan Vos!
When Vader paused looking through the fire at the Droid picking up Obi Wan, I feel he was flashing back to when Anakin was being rescued by droids. Vader could've easily jumped over the fire and finished off Kenobi. I was amazed that such a showdown of this significance was halfway through the season.
@@unbowedqueen I mean, she lied to achieve a more suitable position. I like Reva, but I truly feel that once Vader knows the truth, he won’t have mercy on her.
Vader surely knows she did, he's not that oblivious, that's why he said to her she wants the GI position. I think Reva's smarter than that though, she wants that position maybe but not for the simplistic reason Vader thinks... we'll see what her true motives are. But yes I can't see her surviving.
I like how obi wan easily took on 8 storm troopers and then a second later her surrenders to just three 😂 how that make sense…and shoots the laser barrier instead of just walking around it 😂
Obi-Wan: "What have you become?" Vader: "I am what you made me." Chills... and kinda true, the Jedi unintentionally did create Vader. They didn't teach him as properly as they thought and now he's messing them up for their idiocy.
Is it just me… I feel like if anakin was trained the right way he would’ve had a purple light saber showing his natural connection to the light and dark side…
@@mxhni_3637 You're not the only one who thought that. I've been thinking the same thing myself about Anakin being able to harness Dark Side power and Light Side at the same time, only to a much greater degree than Mace Windu. I could see him using Force Lightning and Choke almost to the point of being able to just bring Sidious to his knees or even just to subdue opponents.
Force-Users are really pretty easy to fight. Drop two or three stun grenades near them, on short fuses, then hit them with a blaster on stun at range, and probably pelt them a couple of times for good measure. Then switch to standard setting and frag 'em with blaster bolts. That's doing it alone. If you've got four-person fireteam, it's even easier. Games make it artificially hard by limiting your options in really stupid ways...and movies make it difficult because they want a specific chain of events, rather than actually give some thought to how things would play out, and change the conditions in a more natural way to make a certain outcome happen.
I think we saw Reva in that opening of episode one as a youngling, she grows up both angry and in pain because of O66 and just wants to find a place she can belong again. The way she stared wistfully at that jedi symbol in this episode...as violent as she is, I think by the end of the season, she will turn back to her early training as a jedi and somehow end up helping Obi-Wan. Just a wild theory :)
If you look at the promotional posters for the series, there is one with the Grand Inquisitor with Obi-Wan in one of his eyes, another with the Second Brother, also with Kenobi in his eye, and finally one with the Sixth Sister… but with Vader in her eye. Like you said, it’s hinted that she was the first youngling we saw at the beginning, and witnessed Anakin’s massacre, and wants to use Kenobi to get to Vader to get revenge.
When Chris disappeared to the left I didn’t realise at first and the noise effect it made sounded like a scream and I thought one of my neighbours were getting murdered
I feel like Rogue One and Fallen Order set the bar way too high, the fire torture scene was dope but the build up towards it with them running through the quarry felt more like a fanfilm imo. I think Deborah Chow even admitted that lightsaber fights were really hard to direct.
And how exactly are you supposed to film a lightsaber fight with a character who hasn’t touched his lightsaber in 10 years or practiced lightsaber forms or even used the force? If those are the boxes you have to tic, I’d say they did a good job.
The Vader voice is probably done by the same AI that did young Luke in Mandalorian and Boba Fett. James Earl Joes' voice was much lower and more gravelly due to age when he did Rogue One and Rebels. The software apparently takes samples of the voice of the actor from the timeframe they're aiming for, then can re-create it. None of Luke's dialogue we heard in the Disney+ shows was actually him, but the AI.
I can't believe that Chris Johnson, AKA the Gungan Thunder, AKA Palpatine's Grandson, AKA the greatest Star Wars fan in the world was completely correct about every single Star Wars thing he said in this entire video.
I can't believe I'm the only that watched Obi-Wan blow up the Imperial prode droid and was disappointed that his next line wasn't "It's a good bet the Empire knows we're here"
another layer to the saber skill difference between obi and Vader is, at this point Vader is not nearly the same duelist obi faced on mustifar. for the past 10 years he's done little but hunt and kill so many Jedi knights and masters, despite his injuries he's definitely hit his stride by this point, being nearly done with his post 66 Jedi hunting, meanwhile this is probably the first time obi wan is even igniting his lightsaber since that fight
I was SHOCKED that James Earl Jones reprised his roll once again. I can’t be the only one who watched Vader in Rogue One and could hear that his voice just wasn’t what it use to be. I mean, it was good, but after 40+ years of doing this voice it just wasn’t as sharp as it was in his heyday. Not that anyone could possibly blame him for it. Anyways, after seeing Vader in Jedi Fallen Order I was convinced that JEJ had finally retired from the Vader voice, and they were just going hire a similar voice to replace him. All that said HOLY SH*T JAMES EARL JONES KILLED IT 🤩🤩🤩 LIKE, GODDAMN! I FEEL LIKE HE’S BEEN SAVING UP FOR THIS SHOW!!! THE WAY HE SELLS LINES LIKE “I AM WHAT YOU MADE ME!!!”. PERFECTION!!!
How crazy can people be? That's it. Walk with lions and hug them. And no, this is not a montage, but real shots from an excursion in one park. View ( Visitors did not expect such a WARM WELCOME FROM the LION! ) Enjoy watching if you don't get scared :)
"Initiate protocol 23" everybody on The couch:yhoooo Chris: guys you don't know what that mean..... "last time somebody initiates Something...." well that's fair
it very clear as to why vader is so ruthless during this time period; we have to take in account this is like prime vader he doesnt have anyone now and hes hell bent on finding/torturing obi-wan
fun fact: when vader is looking out the window of his castle at the begining, he is staring at the spot where obiwan abandonded him
Oh shit! That would make so much sense...
Yeah I can’t remember exactly which comic but I’m sure I remember Vader looking at the bank where he burned to fuel his anger
He purposely built his fortress there on Mustafa to fuel his Sith powers using anger, hatred and pain.
And Kylo Ren thinks he can reach this power by throwing a temper tantrum on computers...
@@holyflame2 Notice how you would have been able to leave this thread with cool facts without spreading negativity? And how you still chose to make this about you disliking something instead of appreciating those cool facts? Yea, exactly. Its useless and just annoying at this point
“You ain’t about to shoot a kid in a Disney movie”
Vader literally minutes later snaps a kid’s neck.
Vader looks at kids and just thinks "This is where the fun begins"
Vader and killing innocent children, name a more iconic duo.
@@jinhokim9484 😂
21:53
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BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Vader snapping that kid's neck was horrifying. Like, yeah, he killed the Younglings, but he thought they were too far gone and he was saving them, being "merciful". But THIS!? My god. How cruel. And then to just leave the mother with a dead husband and son. I still can't believe Anakin was gonna be a father himself. I can't believe Vader found affection for Luke and Leia in the end!
I love how the inquisitors keep fighting for daddy vaders attention lol
like zuko and azula for ozai's approval
Its hilarious because in Rebels they all hate / annoy the shit out of each other and its perfectly continued here, Reva especially annoys them all
@@trivonnereid8877 that was more of an Azula just pouring salt, lime juice, and rubbing alcohol in the wound on Zuko.
@@JustSomeGuywithEpicGrasses yeah you're right
Tbh wouldn’t we all ? Lol
Fun fact: Obi-Wan remembers he had a brother possibly.
IRL, Ewan really does have a brother. He's a pilot in the Royal Air Force and the callsign he was given is "Obi-Two." 😉🤣
I love this episode shows how “he’s more machine now than man, twisted and evil.”
Wonder if the whole "Close your eyes to see the Path" will be a metaphor for Obi-wan to not 'see' Vader as Anakin, but just as a machine; as OWK says in ANH: Don't trust your eyes, they deceive you - that's not Anakin anymore.
14:41: the way Chris materialized again with that FREAKING CUTE puppy. He's not only an expert, he's also a wizard confirmed!
most shocking reveal of the episode was Freck being voiced by Zach Braff and not Seth Rogen.
I forgot to check the credits! Thanks!
Who is him and who voiced? I watched the new episode today and his voice sounded very familiar but couldn’t find why!
Damn! I thought it was Seth Rogen too!
what's Zach known for?
@@theawesomeman9821 Scrubs
Chris "I know more about star wars than you" Johnson:
"He's naked under there?"
It's actually pretty intense though. The original suit didn't fit right, so it would rip his skin off and cause constant agony. Sideus had a newer version that fit better, but Vader refused, because the pain made him stronger in the dark side. So some of that mutilation you see is from his suit.
"Anakin turned because he was told no"
@@willfanofmanyii3751 who says that
@@santiagogonzalez5001 Chris.
@@willfanofmanyii3751 lmao so dumb. How can he watched prequels, be halfway in clone wars and still say that. Sounds like a prequel hater to me...
Where did you find this information? The Sacred Jedi Texts?
I was wondering how much mileage we were going to get out of having Christensen in the suit, but I forgot how goddamn good a physical actor he is.
I think anyone could have done it
@@TheJerbol ok
Right?! His presence is dominant
This commment goes crazy after the Ashoka series.
For me, the infighting between the Inquisitors beautifully illustrates why the Sith instituted the Rule of Two in the first place.
Anytime there's more than one master and apprentice around, they just kill eachother for power/control, and it hurts their overall agenda.
*And yes, I know the Inquisitors aren't technically Sith.
18:04 I haven’t seen anyone point this out but the reason he activated his lightsaber was to feel safe as it was very dark. He immediately turns it off and runs once he sees Vader again. Obi-Wan explained this earlier in the episode to Leila, about darkness and feeling safe when the lights are on.
This is also backed by the fact he was in a defensive stance
@@theflamingnord this is also backed by the fact that I was scared asf, so obi wan probably was too
@@nathanp8279 They did a fantastic job making it feel like a horror movie moment
@First Name Last Name
Didn't take long for your kind to show up here.
@First Name Last Name Which parts are aganist the cannon? This is just to show how weak Obi-wan is right now. And how much stronger Vader is, and reiterate how big of a threat he is. Hayden said they have a fight scene similar in intensity to ROTS fight. So, it's easy to spectulate Obi-wan will get close to where he was. regain his humor and hope like he has in a new hope. And manage to lose just about all of his fighting skills again by a new hope. They're kind of boxed in with what all they can do. I'd rather have the show, flaws and all, then nothing at all. If you don't like the cannon, try and pretend the show never happened. Like I do with the season 8 of GOT that just never seemed to have been made.
When Vader was starring out the window, he was starring where obi cut off his legs.
Didn’t catch that one if you’re right makes sense tho
The parallels between Obi Wan and Luke's journey in TLJ are interesting. They both had a student they loved, and therefore could not be impartial. They both failed their respective students and when it all went to shit, they both sent themselves onto exile.
The new trilogy had a lot of errors i.e. flow, etc but leaning on the parallels, had Rey been a Kenobi having to save Ben and succeeding, it would have been fascinating. Like the breaking of a cycle.
Remember the surfer dude jedi with the dreads that Obi went on an adventure with for an episode of clone wars? They were looking for Ziro. That’s the jedi Obi named in this episode as having cone through the safe house. Quinlan Vos. He survived Order 66!
I mean we knew that already, a book confirmed he survived, but that was it, not what happened to him afterward
And O'Shea Jackson is rumored to play him unless it's been confirmed
@@nickstanton6021 O'Shea is playing Quinlan nice
@@nickstanton6021 😱
Well we technically know what happened to quinlan vos in legends but since were in canon only disney will tell what really happened afterwards also sad none of them even picked up on the quinlan vos reference
James Earl Jones is 91 now. They used some fancy computer filtering to make his voice sound right.
Vader
Barges in to town
Kills civilians
Refuses to elaborate
Leaves
Chad
I subscribe to the theory about Vader's hands and how serious he is. If he's using one hand, he's not serious and is toying with someone. Two hands? That's when you know he's serious.
Hayden Christensen as Darth Vader is so good!
@@sparklenuke Hayden's in the suit for most it except for moments when Vader is moving extremely fast.
The part where Obi Wan got dragged through the fire is seriously heartbreaking.
Yeah his injuries changed everything. The way he used the force since the force moves through living matter and now it's less living matter on his body. His whole sabre style changing to accommodate his missing limbs and bulky body. On top of the constant pain he felt. Palpatine purposely made the suit painful as a punishment for Vader's failure against Obi-Wan.
Vader set Obi Wan on fire because he made him come to the sand planet.
One thing I’ll always miss about the prequels is the lightsaber effects. The swaying afterglow effect after a saber swing was always cool as heck and, added distinct character to lightsaber duels.
Yeah. They’re literally just using practical glowing sabers now. I understand it’s cheaper, and looks almost identical to a cgi blade,but cgi blades just had a flair to them physical that ones don’t.
Vader actually has a lot more skill using his lightsaber than people give him credit for. He is canonically ranked as the number 1 Sith duelist according to some databooks, and he has the feats to back this claim.
Obviously he had to relearn lightsaber combat to better suit his new body, but his core basics were the same. He already relied on heavy power blows as Anakin, but he would make up for gaps by substituting any lack of precision with blistering speed. Vader does the opposite, taking a page out of both Dooku's and ironically Obi-Wan's book, and relies on perfect precision to make up for his lack of mobility. We see this frequently when he's actually serious about a fight. He'll often employ quick thrusts and slashes to feel out the metaphorical chinks in a Jedi's armour, before choosing to either lay off and just play defense to get a feel for their offensive capabilities, or just gun it and overwhelm them with a barrage of crushing blows. This is a formula we see him repeat during the OT. If he isn't taking an opponent seriously though, he'll just kinda lazily hack away at them like he did in this episode.
But yeah, Vader's strength, precision, and force combo is absolutely no joke. Which we love to see.
Thanks for more insight. I love Vader’s character and hate to see people judge him to harshly. There is lots of evidence showing that he’s not some over glorified monster. He actually has lots of skill and talent.
I wouldent take those databooks as 1 to 1 factual. Vader is still a top tier duelist but Matt Martin has talked about how those rankings in the databook are more like sport rankings. They are not definitive and the reason they exist is simply because the book had a need for it. Someone in spot 4 can still beat someone in spot 1 in the right situation.
You say that, but in this show he shows NONE of that.
Dude is just using it like a club. Somehow the choreography is worse here than in the sequel movies
@@AbsurdFalcon I agree actually, I think feats are far more valuable than statements made by authors. In this case I was just trying to demonstrate that Vader is a better duelist than he's given credit for.
@@Crispifordthe3rd515 I mean take it as limitations on the part of acting but lore wise he’s faced numerous master-council level Jedi in combat.
Vaders as a saberist canonically speaking is top tier.
@15:50, Ned-B is a G. He was giving those Stormtroopers that " wish you would" side eye
This episode was a dam treat! Props all round to the creators and legendary actors involved 👌🏻
They used a voice synthesizer AI program to generate Darth Vader’s voice by using all existing recordings of Jones’ sessions for the three films. That said James Earl Jones did record the lines for Kenobi for the AI to follow so it flowed more naturally. But what you hear is 100% digitally generated.
If James Earl Jones recorded new lines for AI, why not just have him do the actual lines of the show? o.O
@@Commander_Shepard. His age. Vader here needs to sound younger in the suit.
@@Commander_Shepard. i think he did for rogue one but you can tell his voice has change cause of his age. Its impossible to make your voice sound younger naturally, so AI is needed.
Fortunately, the voice fits, cus he sounds a bit robotic, which fits so good with Vader
@@chazo1367 ooh good point. 😮
I thought it was ridiculous that they escaped vader by making a 20 foot wide fire wall in the middle of the desert. Like Vader couldn't just walk around it? I was so confused at that moment, everyone just walked away lmao
Obi Wan seeing Anikin is giving me some real Jesus tempted by the Devil in the desert vibes
Mad props to Hayden Christensen and Ewan McGregor for the battle scene!
It's actually a different guy in the Vader suit in this episode. :)
@@Commander_Shepard. Nope. It's confirmed Hayden. Same as the end of ROTS.
I’m with Chris some people care a little TOO much about getting things wrong. Like he isn’t an expert none of them are so what do you expect. They haven’t watched every show read every comic read every book in the Star Wars canon lore. You can correct them and let them know you don’t gotta be rude.
Except it's coming from the guy who gets most aspects of Anakin wrong.
No shame in being wrong, it's arrogance while being wrong that rubs people the wrong way...
bro Chris literally says Anakin turned cause he was told no by the jedi counsil lmao
Chris saying “what if they pick up Vader next” was the funniest thing I heard all week.
i like how vader is stopped by a bit of fire that he can walk around or can easily put out with the force.
And you know his uniform is fireproof. Now way he’s playing with flammable capes.
He literally let him get away you think he he’d just get stopped by a bit of fire🤦🏽♂️
Their fight was very reminiscent of Empire, when Luke is fighting to parry hits.
I can’t believe they name dropped Quinlan. Imagine if we get a Quinlan and Asajj tv show.
I have bad news for you….
@@castelox9996 well, they could, but it'd obviously need to be set at some point during Dark Disciple.
Loved her scare jump when Vader popped light saber. That man can surprise 'ya alright.😂
Rana cheering on Ned-B was classic Rana. Hilarious.
Vader’s skin was actually burned off so severely that they had to put on a synthetic skin for him that constantly itches and burns
Is that canon or legends? I'm thinking Legends.
@@alexdeghost2729 canon, they detail it in Lords of the Sith
Vader just watched the slowest droid carry obi-wan away without moving a finger, that scene was weird as hell
I hate that Moses Ingram is getting so much hate mail/tweets. She's doing such an incredible job (in my opinion) on this show, I'm definitely a fan! Maybe it's because I can partly relate to her character of Reva. Were I in her position, I'd be doing the same shit.
I've been a SW fan since I was 10 years old, in 1977. I've enjoyed pretty much everything they've done so far (though Episode VIII was kinda sketchy at first, it DID end up growing on me)... but I'm loving this show. Absolutely LOVING IT!
Old fogey Star Wars fans, mount up! 🤘🏼
I wouldn’t say she did an incredible job exactly but she did good for her part.
Prople are really sending her hate mail? Wtf? Even if one doesn't like the character they shouldn't attack the actor. Some people are fucking dumbasses
I mean I wouldn't find her character compelling at all yet but she plays into the pathetic inquisitor trying her best to be the best pretty well
“Not the kids!”
(Snaps neck)
Move on
It's really, really cool and hilarious that this character is *so* much of a cultural icon that already commands respect with even just his presence that it's absolutely terrifying just watching the guy get up, shower, get dressed, and head to work.
The "actions speak louder than words" is a pretty solid theme here that works into all of the little subplot threads in some clever and unique ways. Like the loading droid - it's a Worker Droid, not a Protocol Droid - it has no real need to speak. ("But what if he has something to say?" "He will say it with his actions.") Stormtroopers just write him off as too stupid or non-sentient to understand, while this droid was actually a ride or die homie ready to start cracking skulls with an ax at the drop of a hat.
Compare that with the Uber Driver Walrus played by Zack Braff - he seems pleasant enough, he speaks with kindness, he's polite, and friendly, and comes across as legitimately helpful. But he still just drives them right up to the Stormtroopers and throws them under the bus, nonchalantly.
Obi-Wan doesn't want little miss to talk - "I can't talk, or I don't talk?" "You don't talk." "Yeah, but we need to talk to this guy so that we can get some help." And though it was a bumpy ride, little miss knows how to improvise gracefully, being raised as the daughter of *SENATOR* Bail Organa and *QUEEN* Breha Organa. So they have this playful "I know *who* she's like," banter that highlights Leia's understanding of these things - but this is 100% about the Legacy of Padme Amidala, who was both a *Senator* and a *Queen* .
Then Reva and the Dejected Green Mushroom Inquisitor have a pissing contest about taking initiative vs taking advantage, and ultimately come across as two petulant siblings trying to snitch on each other to Dad who doesn't give a shit. "I just went and spoke to Darth Vader, buddy, you're SCREWED." "Oh, yeah? Well *I* already informed Lord Vader, and he gave me a cookie."
And to cap it off, Vader is obsessed with getting revenge on Kenobi, but there's a sense of meta-aware insecurity to him, as if he was wary of being criticized for his Rogue One puns and generally petulant nature from the prequel trilogy. So he just walks up, menacing as shit, and then suddenly just STOPS. There's a small beat in which I'm pretty sure everybody watching at home was like, "He's about to say something stupid, isn't he?" And the guy flips the freak out - "QUIT MAKING FUN OF MY DIALOGUE!" and starts snapping necks.
And more power to him, because even I had to agree that Vader, in this episode, had one of the sickest burns in the fantasy -- easily way better than, "Be careful not to choke on your aspirations."
Anyone else think there’s a human inside the robot?
The way he was holding the wrench…. He felt fear.
Yeah you’re right
I loved how everyone was saying "oh he's just a loader, he doesn't understand anything" and this thing totally analysed the whole situation perfectly lol
This ep was a big step up from the last two for me! Just wished they pulled off Tala’s rescue a little cooler. I know troopers are bad but missing 50 shots from like 20ft away and Vader letting them go was a little weak.
I think it was more of Vader letting them go to track them back to their base. We’ll have to see in the later episodes, but it was a little weird to me as well
Tbh vader let that man get away he 100% could of either put that fire out or walked threw it he just stood there basically saying I’ll see you again
Yeah it was so dumb. But why did he let him go?
@@Nekotaku_TV I think he enjoys the chase a little bit plus at this point he knows obi-wan is no threat to him with how broken he is now so Vader can enjoy torturing him and watching him try to run and cower away from him. Vader himself is also just dramatic he does things in a roundabout way that really isn’t the easiest way for him but instead gets the most fear out of people.
"After 10 Years of searching, I finally have you where I want you Obi-Wan .....but I have an appointment and can't walk 10 feet to capture you, so I guess you just got away ......"
James Earl Jones is 91 and still does a fantastic job voicing Vader.
pretty sure his voice is enhanced with some kind of software..^^
I think this is an AI generated voice based on the Empire Strikes Back voice samples
I had no clue he was that old.. hope they maybe have him record more lines for any future Vader appearances, he's getting up there
All my friends and I were screaming when Obi-Wan stinkin' namedropped QUINLAN VOS!!! If Vos doesn't show up to rescue Obi-Wan and chibi Leia next episode, we're all gonna be throwing tantrums over here XD Give us live-action Quinlan Vos!
When Vader paused looking through the fire at the Droid picking up Obi Wan, I feel he was flashing back to when Anakin was being rescued by droids. Vader could've easily jumped over the fire and finished off Kenobi. I was amazed that such a showdown of this significance was halfway through the season.
I don’t see Reva living long after Vader finds out she lied to him about the Grand Inquisitor
Y’all just really want Reva dead, huh
@@unbowedqueen I mean, she lied to achieve a more suitable position. I like Reva, but I truly feel that once Vader knows the truth, he won’t have mercy on her.
Vader surely knows she did, he's not that oblivious, that's why he said to her she wants the GI position. I think Reva's smarter than that though, she wants that position maybe but not for the simplistic reason Vader thinks... we'll see what her true motives are. But yes I can't see her surviving.
fun fact, the reason he moves so roboticly (hope that's a word) is that Palpatine actually made his suit shitty to handicap him
I like how obi wan easily took on 8 storm troopers and then a second later her surrenders to just three 😂 how that make sense…and shoots the laser barrier instead of just walking around it 😂
seeing that walk from hayden with the saber i could just see Anakin from Revenge of the Sith lol
Watching the Inquisitors squabble and fuck each other over for advancement, you understand why the Sith went to the whole Rule of Two deal.
Obi-Wan: "What have you become?"
Vader: "I am what you made me."
Chills... and kinda true, the Jedi unintentionally did create Vader. They didn't teach him as properly as they thought and now he's messing them up for their idiocy.
Is it just me… I feel like if anakin was trained the right way he would’ve had a purple light saber showing his natural connection to the light and dark side…
"I have failed you, Anakin... I have failed you."
@@mxhni_3637 You're not the only one who thought that. I've been thinking the same thing myself about Anakin being able to harness Dark Side power and Light Side at the same time, only to a much greater degree than Mace Windu. I could see him using Force Lightning and Choke almost to the point of being able to just bring Sidious to his knees or even just to subdue opponents.
@@99thJediWarrior exactly
Vader: Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya, Kenobi: See-ya.
So we not gonna talk about how my man Chris is a force ghost confirmed at 14:20?
I am one with the force
James earl jones is not pushing 80....he's 91 and that is him doing the voice, man is a unit.
The jedi that obiwan talks about that is alive is the jedi you guys seen team up with him in the clone wars. The jedi with the dreadlocks.
Force-Users are really pretty easy to fight. Drop two or three stun grenades near them, on short fuses, then hit them with a blaster on stun at range, and probably pelt them a couple of times for good measure. Then switch to standard setting and frag 'em with blaster bolts.
That's doing it alone. If you've got four-person fireteam, it's even easier.
Games make it artificially hard by limiting your options in really stupid ways...and movies make it difficult because they want a specific chain of events, rather than actually give some thought to how things would play out, and change the conditions in a more natural way to make a certain outcome happen.
I think we saw Reva in that opening of episode one as a youngling, she grows up both angry and in pain because of O66 and just wants to find a place she can belong again. The way she stared wistfully at that jedi symbol in this episode...as violent as she is, I think by the end of the season, she will turn back to her early training as a jedi and somehow end up helping Obi-Wan. Just a wild theory :)
If you look at the promotional posters for the series, there is one with the Grand Inquisitor with Obi-Wan in one of his eyes, another with the Second Brother, also with Kenobi in his eye, and finally one with the Sixth Sister… but with Vader in her eye.
Like you said, it’s hinted that she was the first youngling we saw at the beginning, and witnessed Anakin’s massacre, and wants to use Kenobi to get to Vader to get revenge.
That blue saber gave me chills!
"We're all naked under our clothes" - Micky, 2022.
When Chris disappeared to the left I didn’t realise at first and the noise effect it made sounded like a scream and I thought one of my neighbours were getting murdered
The Black Air Force Energy is strong with Vader
I feel like Rogue One and Fallen Order set the bar way too high, the fire torture scene was dope but the build up towards it with them running through the quarry felt more like a fanfilm imo. I think Deborah Chow even admitted that lightsaber fights were really hard to direct.
And how exactly are you supposed to film a lightsaber fight with a character who hasn’t touched his lightsaber in 10 years or practiced lightsaber forms or even used the force? If those are the boxes you have to tic, I’d say they did a good job.
The inquisitor's ship reminds me of a beefed up version of the star fighter in the TV series buck Rogers
20:14 - 20:25 Now there's your real Revenge of the Sith!
I love the earnest, sincere discussion of how much physical harm should be done to Freck. .made my day you guys!
13:13 is my favorite part of this entire reaction video
The Vader voice is probably done by the same AI that did young Luke in Mandalorian and Boba Fett.
James Earl Joes' voice was much lower and more gravelly due to age when he did Rogue One and Rebels.
The software apparently takes samples of the voice of the actor from the timeframe they're aiming for, then can re-create it. None of Luke's dialogue we heard in the Disney+ shows was actually him, but the AI.
I can't believe that Chris Johnson, AKA the Gungan Thunder, AKA Palpatine's Grandson, AKA the greatest Star Wars fan in the world was completely correct about every single Star Wars thing he said in this entire video.
For once.
@@willfanofmanyii3751 lmao I love this
If they see this. Vader only uses two hands when he has to try
Young Leia is giving off anakin vibes when she deliberately disobeys obi-wan
We need Obi to connect with Qui-Gon and get zen so he can kick Vader's ass one more time.
Wonder if the whole "Close your eyes to see the Path" will be a metaphor for Obi-wan to not 'see' Vader as Anakin, but just as a machine
It was episode 2, a deleted scene when quigon reached out to yoda to teach him how
This episode was awesome, loved how evil Vader is 👏
I can't believe I'm the only that watched Obi-Wan blow up the Imperial prode droid and was disappointed that his next line wasn't "It's a good bet the Empire knows we're here"
how you can be so calm when vader say "i am what you made me" is so fck sick.
Viewers: man TH-cam recommendations are being boring lately-
Kenobi Clips: *Hello There!*
another layer to the saber skill difference between obi and Vader is, at this point Vader is not nearly the same duelist obi faced on mustifar. for the past 10 years he's done little but hunt and kill so many Jedi knights and masters, despite his injuries he's definitely hit his stride by this point, being nearly done with his post 66 Jedi hunting, meanwhile this is probably the first time obi wan is even igniting his lightsaber since that fight
Vader murdering innocents to get Obi Wan to come out was disturbing as hell...
I was SHOCKED that James Earl Jones reprised his roll once again. I can’t be the only one who watched Vader in Rogue One and could hear that his voice just wasn’t what it use to be. I mean, it was good, but after 40+ years of doing this voice it just wasn’t as sharp as it was in his heyday. Not that anyone could possibly blame him for it. Anyways, after seeing Vader in Jedi Fallen Order I was convinced that JEJ had finally retired from the Vader voice, and they were just going hire a similar voice to replace him. All that said HOLY SH*T JAMES EARL JONES KILLED IT 🤩🤩🤩 LIKE, GODDAMN! I FEEL LIKE HE’S BEEN SAVING UP FOR THIS SHOW!!! THE WAY HE SELLS LINES LIKE “I AM WHAT YOU MADE ME!!!”. PERFECTION!!!
Darth Vader is the space boogeyman...he predates the "modern horror" villains Myers, Jason, Freddy and Chucky....he the GOAT
How crazy can people be? That's it. Walk with lions and hug them. And no, this is not a montage, but real shots from an excursion in one park. View ( Visitors did not expect such a WARM WELCOME FROM the LION!
) Enjoy watching if you don't get scared :)
I love Rana's reactions so much
Obi-Wan ran because he was looking for high ground.
She going have an heart attack with all the screaming 😂 😂 she do in every video 😂
Deborah Chow is killing it with this show. I hope she gets more opportunities in this franchise.
Why is Vader's castle surrounded by lava? You would think he would want none of that.
Mustafar fuels Vader's hate. To him, it's where Anakin and Padme "died".
its a reminder for him
the comics explain it as a place of immense hatred, it makes him stronger being there.
**sees no Suraj in a star wars reaction**
great, now who's going to be the equalizer?
Plot twist- Reva pulls a Severus Snape and reveals she's a double agent working for the Alliance, assigned to protect Leia and Obi Wan.
The Quinlan Vos mentions is what got me!
Never underestimate a Droid I want to hear the princess say that
This is where the fun begins!
Rana's hair loooooking cute!!!!
"Initiate protocol 23" everybody on The couch:yhoooo
Chris: guys you don't know what that mean.....
"last time somebody initiates
Something...."
well that's fair
Wow Chris goes to a different dimension when he pees
it very clear as to why vader is so ruthless during this time period; we have to take in account this is like prime vader he doesnt have anyone now and hes hell bent on finding/torturing obi-wan
"Is he just naked under there??" Not even a Darth onesie? T-shirt? Intergalactic wife-beater? Briefs or boxers?