Hi guys. Im a mid 30s dad and comic collector. I used to collect comics as a youngster then left the hobby for teenage arm and wrist excercises...anyways during this pandemic era and raising my 5 year old. It brings the kid out in me. So about 6 months ago. I started buying comics again on ebay as art pieces . Some cgcd and some raw. Anyhoot I was browsing through my local antique store and found three 1 issues of mystery incorporated from 1963. I loved the nostalgic feel to it. And as soon as i watched your video i bought a signed copy of issue 3 on ebay. In a round about way I just want to say the videos are awesome and funny and definitely make me get into the abyss of comic artwork and issues one by one . Thank you guys..Roger
I would definitely love to do a page (Pages?) of a 1963 annual! One caveat: It must come out in 2023 to continue the 30 year loop! Gives us all lots of time to plan it out...
Perhaps Hypernaut is some kind of amalgam of Doctor Strange with the trippy out there locales and stuff mixed with Iron Man with the flying around and the handblasts and the advanced tech and suits?
An intriguing subplot in The Hypernaut is when he/it is starting to wonder if Hypernauts are truly reborn or soulless artificial copies of the original beings.
Considering Jim mentioned the Fletcher Hanks impression in Hypernaut, I think it's safe to say there's even a fair bit of Basil Wolverton's Spacehawk in that mix. Especially considering Hypernaut's color scheme and the design of his antagonist.
And Hypernaut is such a wonderful character; it seems a shame this material is in limbo. He's the most Alan Moore-esque and least derivative, but some of the elements that were floating around from old comics were (1) No-Man, who could switch bodies (others have picked up on this) (2) Arnim Zola visual, as you guys point out (3) a character called the Faceless One from the Dr. Doom series, who seemed to be a guy with a globe-like mask until the globe detached itself from the body, revealing little spider legs. (The artist was Wally Wood who used this trick more than once) and (4) there was a villain called the Construct in Steve Englehart's Justice League run, who was a consciousness formed out of the global spread of technology and could live in any sort of machinery, if I'm remembering correctly. He was a sort of precursor to the paranoic Terminator-style digital tyranny of later stories. Alan Moore was the guy who read everything and forgot none of it.
Finishing the 1963 Annual? Change Youngblood's Shaft to MCU's Hawkeye and make the Lee Harvey Oswald imposter MCU's Nick Fury. Maybe even make the 4D Man Hypernaut encounters into Henry Pym as Giant Man. Mystery Incorporated and the Tomorrow Syndicate track the kidnapped Kid Dynamo into the MCU. Instead of traditional, wholesome comics vs 90s gritty comics make the contrast between traditional comics' fans culture vs the current MCU/DCU, for-the-masses pop-culture of comics.
Speaking of JFK and 1963, check this out -- If you go back and read the earliest issues of Sgt. Fury and His Howling Commandos, there's a member of the Howlers named Jonathan "Junior" Juniper. You can see him (and the other original Howlers) in a double-page spread from Sgt. Fury issue 1, which you'll find at this link if you scroll down a little -- www.historyguy.com/comicshistory/sgt-fury-howling-commandos-1.htm. In that spread, Junior is described as being "fresh out of an Ivy League college." He also looks a bit like JFK. Seeing as how Dino Manelli was almost certainly based on singer/actor Dean Martin, it doesn't seem implausible that Junior Juniper was intended as an homage to JFK -- who of course served in the U.S. Naval Reserve during WW2, having enlisted in late 1941, shortly after graduating from Harvard. Well, Junior Juniper was the first character from the Howlers to be killed in action. He dies in issue 4, in the story "Lord Ha-Ha's Last Laugh." Y'know what the cover date of Sgt. Fury issue 4 was? Yup, November 1963. You can see the cover here -- www.marvel.com/comics/issue/10698/sgt_fury_1963_4
Tertiary color pallette and the ability to transfer mental data to a new body... maybe Hypernaut is a bit like The VISION and Machine Man? I know Vision or MM weren't around yet in 1963 Marvel, but.... Maybe? Just a guess. I haven't read the 1963 series since they dropped on the spinner rack, and I don't readily remember the story. I'll have to dig out the issues.
Hypernaut seems like a character that could've been drawn by Robert Williams in Zap Comix. The tiny ball-bearing head on a big body, the diced-up monster, the scrambled features...it's right out of Coochy Cooty, and I'd say Williams would be my pick to draw a new story.
I believe that I read somewhere that the massage that the 1963 annual was going to incorporate, was that more mature 90’s stories are not necessarily better stories than the ones from the past. Certainly characters like Supreme, Spawn, Youngblood, Savage Dragon and all the others defined that type of storytelling. But there could also be hints of what is going to happen in the future, for example stories like civil war, invincible, etc, all of them are part of an ever evolving genre, but that doesn’t mean that one is better than the other. Also, in the Tomorrow Syndicate issue we learn that there was a previous Hypernaut with no connection to the current one, so he is probably an amalgamation of Iron Man, Doctor Strange and Green Lantern, even though it’s supposed to be a marvel pastiche, it’s still silver age centric. Also a little side note, I really hope that Image Grand Design will manage to see the light of day.
I googled Hypernaut for you: "Hypernauts is a proof of concept show produced by Foundation Imaging and Netter Digital Entertainment. To further prove that the computer-generated imagery and visual effects created in Babylon 5 were easily applied to other venues, the Hypernauts were born." You're welcome.
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If there was a 1963 character that had an actual series, I'd want it to be Hypernaut and his lovable, scientific primate chum, Queep!
Hi guys. Im a mid 30s dad and comic collector. I used to collect comics as a youngster then left the hobby for teenage arm and wrist excercises...anyways during this pandemic era and raising my 5 year old. It brings the kid out in me. So about 6 months ago. I started buying comics again on ebay as art pieces . Some cgcd and some raw. Anyhoot I was browsing through my local antique store and found three 1 issues of mystery incorporated from 1963. I loved the nostalgic feel to it. And as soon as i watched your video i bought a signed copy of issue 3 on ebay. In a round about way I just want to say the videos are awesome and funny and definitely make me get into the abyss of comic artwork and issues one by one . Thank you guys..Roger
I would definitely love to do a page (Pages?) of a 1963 annual! One caveat: It must come out in 2023 to continue the 30 year loop! Gives us all lots of time to plan it out...
Perhaps Hypernaut is some kind of amalgam of Doctor Strange with the trippy out there locales and stuff mixed with Iron Man with the flying around and the handblasts and the advanced tech and suits?
I think he’s more Iron Man/Green Lantern. He feels more DC silver age. Johnny Beyond is their Doctor Strange spoof
An intriguing subplot in The Hypernaut is when he/it is starting to wonder if Hypernauts are truly reborn or soulless artificial copies of the original beings.
Ive been rewatching the 1963 vids cuz theyre amazing & i noticed at 6:52 that first panel on the right side reminds me of an Ed Drawing
Giant Size 1963 is in the works Ed and Jim. Don't you worry my friends.
Anthony Tollin did considerable coloring work for DC, alot of Green Lantern plus many others
Every time you guys mention Don Simpson I think of Jerry Bruckheimer
We're working on it, Ed!
we are? where? (I'd legit be game)
Hypernaut seems closest to Iron Man, but mixed with No-Man from the THUNDER Agents.
I remember Rick Veitch mentioning Hypernaut was meant to be a cross between Iron Man and Green Lantern, with added elements from the silver surfer.
The design is totally Arnim Zola, too. Hypernaut is a big mash up of stuff, which worked.
Considering Jim mentioned the Fletcher Hanks impression in Hypernaut, I think it's safe to say there's even a fair bit of Basil Wolverton's Spacehawk in that mix. Especially considering Hypernaut's color scheme and the design of his antagonist.
I figured Hypernaut to be a mix of Iron Man, the Silver Surfer, and a bit of Green Lantern.
And Hypernaut is such a wonderful character; it seems a shame this material is in limbo. He's the most Alan Moore-esque and least derivative, but some of the elements that were floating around from old comics were (1) No-Man, who could switch bodies (others have picked up on this) (2) Arnim Zola visual, as you guys point out (3) a character called the Faceless One from the Dr. Doom series, who seemed to be a guy with a globe-like mask until the globe detached itself from the body, revealing little spider legs. (The artist was Wally Wood who used this trick more than once) and (4) there was a villain called the Construct in Steve Englehart's Justice League run, who was a consciousness formed out of the global spread of technology and could live in any sort of machinery, if I'm remembering correctly. He was a sort of precursor to the paranoic Terminator-style digital tyranny of later stories. Alan Moore was the guy who read everything and forgot none of it.
This retrospective on 1963 is f-ing awesome.
In my opinion Hypernaut is like NoMan from T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents and Robotman from Doom Patrol. Two characters who live in artificial bodies.
It occurred to me while watching your video that Hypernaut is very similar to Noman from T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents.
Finishing the 1963 Annual? Change Youngblood's Shaft to MCU's Hawkeye and make the Lee Harvey Oswald imposter MCU's Nick Fury. Maybe even make the 4D Man Hypernaut encounters into Henry Pym as Giant Man.
Mystery Incorporated and the Tomorrow Syndicate track the kidnapped Kid Dynamo into the MCU.
Instead of traditional, wholesome comics vs 90s gritty comics make the contrast between traditional comics' fans culture vs the current MCU/DCU, for-the-masses pop-culture of comics.
Happy I found this channel
Speaking of JFK and 1963, check this out --
If you go back and read the earliest issues of Sgt. Fury and His Howling Commandos, there's a member of the Howlers named Jonathan "Junior" Juniper. You can see him (and the other original Howlers) in a double-page spread from Sgt. Fury issue 1, which you'll find at this link if you scroll down a little -- www.historyguy.com/comicshistory/sgt-fury-howling-commandos-1.htm. In that spread, Junior is described as being "fresh out of an Ivy League college." He also looks a bit like JFK. Seeing as how Dino Manelli was almost certainly based on singer/actor Dean Martin, it doesn't seem implausible that Junior Juniper was intended as an homage to JFK -- who of course served in the U.S. Naval Reserve during WW2, having enlisted in late 1941, shortly after graduating from Harvard.
Well, Junior Juniper was the first character from the Howlers to be killed in action. He dies in issue 4, in the story "Lord Ha-Ha's Last Laugh." Y'know what the cover date of Sgt. Fury issue 4 was? Yup, November 1963. You can see the cover here -- www.marvel.com/comics/issue/10698/sgt_fury_1963_4
Great video! I get the Basil Wolverton + Ditko feeling in Hypernaut. It also sounds like the Eternaut, but of course doesn’t look like that story.
Seriously guys thanks for covering this series, it's awesome.
Keep up the great work guys. Love this channel. - Ryan Vella
Tertiary color pallette and the ability to transfer mental data to a new body... maybe Hypernaut is a bit like The VISION and Machine Man?
I know Vision or MM weren't around yet in 1963 Marvel, but.... Maybe?
Just a guess.
I haven't read the 1963 series since they dropped on the spinner rack, and I don't readily remember the story.
I'll have to dig out the issues.
Hypernaut seems like a character that could've been drawn by Robert Williams in Zap Comix. The tiny ball-bearing head on a big body, the diced-up monster, the scrambled features...it's right out of Coochy Cooty, and I'd say Williams would be my pick to draw a new story.
Gettin some Machine Man vibes from Hypernaut, whit maybe a little Silver Surfer? Def, one them wacky, cosmic types
Yes, Ed and Jim. Let's get the 1963 Annual #1 started. Put our heads together on some cool plots with all 6 books. I'm game!
I have to pick up the missing issues ASAP.
I always thought Hypernaut was a riff on Dr. Strange.
Imagine if Shatner narrated the USA character
Hypernaught is Iron Man mixed with Ditko cosmic stuff with a bit of Green Lantern
Hypernaut might owe more to Tower Comics No-Man.
Rarebot fiends had been rolling for a while at this point.
Assumed hypernaut was iron man
Kinda reminds me of Bullet Proof Coffin.
I believe that I read somewhere that the massage that the 1963 annual was going to incorporate, was that more mature 90’s stories are not necessarily better stories than the ones from the past.
Certainly characters like Supreme, Spawn, Youngblood, Savage Dragon and all the others defined that type of storytelling. But there could also be hints of what is going to happen in the future, for example stories like civil war, invincible, etc, all of them are part of an ever evolving genre, but that doesn’t mean that one is better than the other.
Also, in the Tomorrow Syndicate issue we learn that there was a previous Hypernaut with no connection to the current one, so he is probably an amalgamation of Iron Man, Doctor Strange and Green Lantern, even though it’s supposed to be a marvel pastiche, it’s still silver age centric.
Also a little side note, I really hope that Image Grand Design will manage to see the light of day.
It's alright.
I googled Hypernaut for you: "Hypernauts is a proof of concept show produced by Foundation Imaging and Netter Digital Entertainment. To further prove that the computer-generated imagery and visual effects created in Babylon 5 were easily applied to other venues, the Hypernauts were born." You're welcome.