I's been reprinted repeatedly actually: Squarebound trade of just this story in '93, which was itself reprinted in '02 (I've got this one), and then more recently (since your comment) in v3 of the Wolverine Omnibus series (which I also have) No words on the slick paper (which I don't hate as much as some for older art, but I don't love) as I haven't looked through it in the Omnibus and don't remember the '02 square trade anymore
Keith was my favorite Wolverine artist before I was old enough to understand that comics weren't all drawn by one guy. That phone cord piece of cloth being ripped off Logan by Cyber's claws on issue 86 is one of those frozen in time moments for me that really made me appreciate his style after realizing the guy that drew the Maxx also drew my favorite Wolverine story.
I see Keith Richards on page 5 of issue 87. Also, you guys are on point about Sam's 70's influences. He frequently mentions underground comics, Wrightson, Crumb, etc on his blog. A shoot interview with him would be aces.
More than Crumb, I clearly see a lot of Ralph Bakshi influence (the human poses and some background), some Eisner (manipulating the grid structure towards narrative and sense of cinematic and diegetic movement) and definitely Wrightsson.
The later Sam Kieth Marvel Comics Presents thing with Venom and Nightmare written by Howard Mackie was better-printed, really mind-blowing to me as a kid though I never read all ot it. Super-weird to me there was never a collection of all of Kieth's Wolverine work but also Marvel generally handles their collections poorly with the coloring being on glossy paper and whatnot.
For whatever my 2 cents are worth, I think Sam Keith was on a whole other level as far as style, grace, and power goes. His art is mesmerizing. Always been a huge fan of these books!
That "widest part of the body" that Ed said Kieth always includes (in the Crumb-pose)-- was always called the "Great-Trochanter" to me in anatomy classes- and that's how it's spelled too, cause I looked that shit up for you.
You can easily see some of the same poses that he uses on the Maxx. Edit: it's really crazy how drastically different this is from 80s Wolverine. But its still Wolverine and a really cool take on him
Thanx for this video, guys. I was just going thru my MCP's the other day. I've always been reluctant to read my single issues, instead preferring to read TPBs. You saved me the trouble of finding a TPB.
Sam Kieth is amazing in taking his unorthodox art style to mainstream characters and getting iconic takes that we all ate up. I really need to binge my Maxx trades now.
Wolverine hanging over the cliff on #87 is my all time favourite cover. These issues also have Jae Lee's first work for Marvel so it's hard to get more bang for your buck than this run of Marvel Comics Presents.
this kinda of art was and is my favorite , I have some of those Sam Keith Wolverine comics when he fights Cyber and Todd McFarlene is my favorite because of that cartoony style
Oh yeah!!! I have all those great Sam Keith MCP issues, The Blood Hungry Collection, and Incredible Hulk 368. Great Sam Keith masterpieces I'm fortunate to own. Great video, guys.
I never thought I would see a Wolverine comic inspired by Winsor McCay and yet here we are. Thanks again Ed and Jim for revealing these treasures! Many sections of this story seem to be inspired by McCay. The very narrow panel borders. The panels with rounded corners. That entire nightmare sequence should have ended with Wolverine falling out of his bed. Also that strange bedpost with intricate rendering, looks like it was copied and pasted from a page of Little Nemo in Slumberland. Two of the main artists you mentioned in the video (Moebius and Chris Ware) were huge McCay fans. Also the "Little Nemo in Slumberland" movie that Moebius worked on was released only 2 years before this comic was printed, so I think it's very likely this is what they had in mind.
Sams my favorite for sure. Came here for sams wolwerine and stayed for Ed! Seen your name as the video started and wow, your RedRoom is awesome. Horror is what i read the most. Jhonny the homicidal manic was my first comic i read in middle school. Cant wait for more redroom.
I got the first trade of this back in the day, but I have the original issues of the Wolverine/Venom storyline. The art on that is amazing as well, big feet are on display! A preview of what was to come on The Maxx...
They made a Wolverine vs The Marvel Universe trade paperback and the Wolverine and Venom crossover from Marvel Presents is included, that story is the main reason I bought it.
Great Episode! Thanks guys. After listening you note the Mcfarlane influences, I wonder if it wasn't thew other way around, since Keith's style for some Crumb/Wrightsson rounder faces and anatomy, has been present since Sandman and Mcfarlane, by the time of Spider-man, didn't have that quite well done, compared to the first edition of Spawn, that I think there are definitely the human anatomy influenced by keith's drawings
This Sam Kieth era of his artwork was just phenomenal. I didn't like what became of his artwork on Image. But on MCP it was just fantastic. Some mix of offbeat and commercial. Same thing with Jae Lee, I loved his early Marvel work like Namor cause it a mix of offbeat and commercial(but I don't like his current style either). What it does is that you have an artist with an original style that make it fresh but is not too off putting for super-hero fan, keeping the high action testosterone which makes it an attractive package, really sick stuff.
I think out of most artists in comics at the time Kieth was in my head the most. I was always doodling some Cyber or Wolverine in high school and after school. Liefeld and McFarlane's as well. I think I was just so into the cartooniness of those guys. It's silly to diss some of them when they are comparing their art to Jim Lee's or more conventional artists. To each their own. I also remember what a weird juxtaposition to see these wildly intricate stories drawn by Kieth next to some really crappy stuff immediately coming after them. I few here and there were cool, but very cringeworthy. I skipped those, but man were they eye soars. I hope there is a Sam Kieth Marvel Collection for these stories he did somehow reproduced well.
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat like sam kieth is one of the gods or at least demi gods of comic book the madness of the maxx or the batman comic books and lets not talk about the style; unique, refresshing, the dirty style, simple yet mesmerizin like he is INCREDIBLES, only Dave mcKean is more insane (and mb junji into) but hey thanks for bringin kieth to more people
Why has Marvel never reprinted this? This art was absolutely mind-blowing in 1991 and it STILL holds up.
I was hoping it would be included in the upcoming Wolverine 2 Omnibus scheduled for June 2021, but it looks like not.
Counterpoint: Maybe it's for the best that they never reprinted it. This would look kind of weird on slick coated paper.
I's been reprinted repeatedly actually:
Squarebound trade of just this story in '93, which was itself reprinted in '02 (I've got this one), and then more recently (since your comment) in v3 of the Wolverine Omnibus series (which I also have)
No words on the slick paper (which I don't hate as much as some for older art, but I don't love) as I haven't looked through it in the Omnibus and don't remember the '02 square trade anymore
Keith was my favorite Wolverine artist before I was old enough to understand that comics weren't all drawn by one guy. That phone cord piece of cloth being ripped off Logan by Cyber's claws on issue 86 is one of those frozen in time moments for me that really made me appreciate his style after realizing the guy that drew the Maxx also drew my favorite Wolverine story.
I loved the maxx..still do
And now I want a Sam Keith Wolverine artist's edition ...
I'll take one of those...
me too…
Sam killed these!!!!! Still have my comics since a kid. Amazing work and Cyber is the best Wolverine villain
I see Keith Richards on page 5 of issue 87. Also, you guys are on point about Sam's 70's influences. He frequently mentions underground comics, Wrightson, Crumb, etc on his blog. A shoot interview with him would be aces.
More than Crumb, I clearly see a lot of Ralph Bakshi influence (the human poses and some background), some Eisner (manipulating the grid structure towards narrative and sense of cinematic and diegetic movement) and definitely Wrightsson.
Check out Arthur Suydam's ink work ; definite influence on Kieth methinks
The later Sam Kieth Marvel Comics Presents thing with Venom and Nightmare written by Howard Mackie was better-printed, really mind-blowing to me as a kid though I never read all ot it. Super-weird to me there was never a collection of all of Kieth's Wolverine work but also Marvel generally handles their collections poorly with the coloring being on glossy paper and whatnot.
Sam is totally influenced by Arthur Suydam too. Loved this episode boys!!!
Sam Kieth is phenomenal. I was looking through some of his work in Batman Confidential the other day. Solid artwork!
Wolverine face reference: Maybe Tom Waits?
I remember walking into the old comic shop near my house as a kid and buying these. They were my first Wolverine comics
For whatever my 2 cents are worth, I think Sam Keith was on a whole other level as far as style, grace, and power goes. His art is mesmerizing. Always been a huge fan of these books!
The Diner Wolvie looks like Charles Bukowski or Bukowski's lovechild with Tom Waits. A bit of Keith Richards there too.
I think those 3 panels on the torso are trying to sell the healing factor, where we get scratches disappearing - not too clear though
Thank you guys for covering BLOOD HUNGRY! Sam is in my top five favorite comic artists of ALL TIME!!!👌👌👌
That "widest part of the body" that Ed said Kieth always includes (in the Crumb-pose)-- was always called the "Great-Trochanter" to me in anatomy classes- and that's how it's spelled too, cause I looked that shit up for you.
Issues around that time had some huge talent like Sam Kieth, Jae Lee, and Joe Madureria. Its interesting how they evolved over time.
This show is so great. Constantly providing me with inspo
Thanks for this for spotlighting one of the greats no one aside from you gents give props to.
You can easily see some of the same poses that he uses on the Maxx.
Edit: it's really crazy how drastically different this is from 80s Wolverine. But its still Wolverine and a really cool take on him
Keith is one of those great artists where you can smell what Logan smells like and it’s not Versace Dylan Blue.
Another hunt at Atomic comic in Mesa to try to complete this run. Great days and another great video.
Issue #87-page 2, purple crystal ball with a reflection that looks exactly like Maxx’s mouth...
Thanx for this video, guys. I was just going thru my MCP's the other day. I've always been reluctant to read my single issues, instead preferring to read TPBs. You saved me the trouble of finding a TPB.
This fahkin blew my mind as a kid.
The best Wolvie art of all time for my money.
Sam Kieth is amazing in taking his unorthodox art style to mainstream characters and getting iconic takes that we all ate up. I really need to binge my Maxx trades now.
Wolverine hanging over the cliff on #87 is my all time favourite cover. These issues also have Jae Lee's first work for Marvel so it's hard to get more bang for your buck than this run of Marvel Comics Presents.
A Timeless Masterpiece! Thanks for this from Barcelona (Spain)
19:20
Wolvie looks like Keith Richards from The Rolling Stones to me on that panel 😂
would love to see those todd mcfarlane sketches you mentioned. Do you know where we can find them?
Oh man this takes me back!
Bought all these up early last year, the covers are insanity, all the fabric on his costume twirling off. It's the best wolverine has ever looked.
this kinda of art was and is my favorite , I have some of those Sam Keith Wolverine comics when he fights Cyber and Todd McFarlene is my favorite because of that cartoony style
Oh yeah!!! I have all those great Sam Keith MCP issues, The Blood Hungry Collection, and Incredible Hulk 368. Great Sam Keith masterpieces I'm fortunate to own. Great video, guys.
I never thought I would see a Wolverine comic inspired by Winsor McCay and yet here we are. Thanks again Ed and Jim for revealing these treasures!
Many sections of this story seem to be inspired by McCay. The very narrow panel borders. The panels with rounded corners. That entire nightmare sequence should have ended with Wolverine falling out of his bed. Also that strange bedpost with intricate rendering, looks like it was copied and pasted from a page of Little Nemo in Slumberland.
Two of the main artists you mentioned in the video (Moebius and Chris Ware) were huge McCay fans. Also the "Little Nemo in Slumberland" movie that Moebius worked on was released only 2 years before this comic was printed, so I think it's very likely this is what they had in mind.
I have a few of these, always used to draw and trace them. Love Sam Keith!
Insane! I was reading these two days ago and wondering if you'd do a video on them. Some of my first comics and I just re-bought 'em.
Sams my favorite for sure. Came here for sams wolwerine and stayed for Ed! Seen your name as the video started and wow, your RedRoom is awesome. Horror is what i read the most. Jhonny the homicidal manic was my first comic i read in middle school. Cant wait for more redroom.
I loved this story when it came out. MCP was a given pick up for me back then... just great stuff. Thanks guys.
i went nuts when i got those back in the 90's, great video guys.
I got the first trade of this back in the day, but I have the original issues of the Wolverine/Venom storyline. The art on that is amazing as well, big feet are on display! A preview of what was to come on The Maxx...
I wish they made a trade of the Wolverine Venom. That was not as intense as this one, but had some cool stuff going.
They made a Wolverine vs The Marvel Universe trade paperback and the Wolverine and Venom crossover from Marvel Presents is included, that story is the main reason I bought it.
wow... i forgot how amazing Sam's work on this title was... just ordered a bunch of them. great vid guys.
I get sweatdrops on my teeth every time I smell carnitas
Absolutely incredible!
RIP the other stories in these books. the beast story actually looks pretty cool.
What a legendary run. Got to buy these issues
always thought frank miller had the best wolverine art til i seen sam kieths
Looks like he used the Nintendo Zapper as a reference at the 25:30 mark.
Great Episode! Thanks guys. After listening you note the Mcfarlane influences, I wonder if it wasn't thew other way around, since Keith's style for some Crumb/Wrightsson rounder faces and anatomy, has been present since Sandman and Mcfarlane, by the time of Spider-man, didn't have that quite well done, compared to the first edition of Spawn, that I think there are definitely the human anatomy influenced by keith's drawings
This Sam Kieth era of his artwork was just phenomenal. I didn't like what became of his artwork on Image. But on MCP it was just fantastic. Some mix of offbeat and commercial. Same thing with Jae Lee, I loved his early Marvel work like Namor cause it a mix of offbeat and commercial(but I don't like his current style either). What it does is that you have an artist with an original style that make it fresh but is not too off putting for super-hero fan, keeping the high action testosterone which makes it an attractive package, really sick stuff.
my fave Kieth work
there is a rob lie field part in that comix b00k
I think out of most artists in comics at the time Kieth was in my head the most. I was always doodling some Cyber or Wolverine in high school and after school. Liefeld and McFarlane's as well. I think I was just so into the cartooniness of those guys. It's silly to diss some of them when they are comparing their art to Jim Lee's or more conventional artists. To each their own. I also remember what a weird juxtaposition to see these wildly intricate stories drawn by Kieth next to some really crappy stuff immediately coming after them. I few here and there were cool, but very cringeworthy. I skipped those, but man were they eye soars. I hope there is a Sam Kieth Marvel Collection for these stories he did somehow reproduced well.
That panel of wolverine that you mention looks like someone, to mee looks a bit like David carradine crossed with eastwood
SOOOOOOO RAD! Thank you!
This definitely has me believing The Maxx was just more psychedelic Wolverine
Mandipore is basically Singapore
You mean Madripoor?
Thanks
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat like sam kieth is one of the gods or at least demi gods of comic book the madness of the maxx or the batman comic books and lets not talk about the style; unique, refresshing, the dirty style, simple yet mesmerizin like he is INCREDIBLES, only Dave mcKean is more insane (and mb junji into) but hey thanks for bringin kieth to more people
This channel is so fire!
Has this work been collected
that wolvie looks like Tom Waits to me.
19:33 looks like Tom Waits
I would love to see you review Wolverine Netsuke by George Pratt. It is one of the most beautiful wolverine books i´ve read
The maxx..enough said.
I see the Julie winters also..a mister gone.love the art work.
Wow, 13-year-old me copied all of those covers over and over...
they really need to reprint this thing oversized. the print quality is just crapola.
Very disappointing. Zero talk from Jim about forearm hair.