Great video but maybe a follow up when you used to the blue tint glasses. Ive been wearing them a few years and realised when i did edited a headshot session with 30 people. The blue light filter glasses effected my colour judgement as the skin tones were off slightly. I now use non filter glasses when doing critical colour work. It maybe a little too niche but any ideas to compensate for this would be appreciated.
I realized that too and got the same glasses again without them. I'll wear those specifically when I'm editing and the blue light ones when I'm doing other admin work.
Thank you! Life long glasses wearer, blind without them. I didn’t realize how much they shift the white balance on my monitor! Take them off and there is a huge difference. Appreciate you sharing your knowledge!
I highly recommend this course because it's eye opening. I have a modified camera so I do need to set a custom w/b only to give me a better starting point and that is subjective as color correcting your monitor. I only do this because it helps me with keeping constantly in my work flow. Again I highly recommend this course is next level and will bring out the best of your vision whatever your personal choice and equipment or processes are. Thank you Blake for opening up new and exciting times in my processing.
The struggle is real. I've worn contact for 30+ years, but just in the past 3 years or so I've started needing to add some reading glasses to the mix. I got some of the blue light blocking glasses and they definitely give a yellow tint to things. Great for my 8-5 job, not so much for working with photos. Definitely recommend a pair without the yellow tint for any color sensitive work. I've shot on AWB for years but recently started experimenting (isn't that what photography is all about) with shooting everything at 5500K after seeing a video about it. It more closely matches the results from the old daylight balanced film that I shot for years, and is consistent if I'm going to do any stitching. I may go back to AWB eventually, but it give me something to try out and see what works best for me. Thanks for the information.
If you are stitching, for sure, you'll need to ensure your white balance is pegged so it doesn;t shift as the camera moves. The software can compensate for that, but its not the best. For the most part AWB treats me well. Tungsten is just horrible hahaha
Great explanation Blake! Quick question, when you jumped back to your computer desk (7:40 in) and into PS, wearing your new glasses (which I will probably be wearing also come December [should I ask for blue light blockers?]), did your new glasses with blue light filtering lenses effect the way you saw how to edit the photo? And by the way, you look almost stately wearing them. 😂💜💜😂 (I use an Edge Light 2.0 too.)
It does affect my editing, quite a bit actually. I'm thinking about getting the same pair without the lenses now specifically for editing and using the others for general work.
Fantastic video, Blake! You have shown the importance of not trusting the camera and also how important it is to do color correction. Also, you brought out that if one tries to do color grading without doing color correction first, the image will be ruined. Color correction comes first. I bought the Color Course the day it came out. My opinion? If you want to do serious work with color in Photoshop, you need the Color Course!
This was outstanding. I always had green as a problem color and the lightbulb clicked on this video that the problem was because it's a mix of yellow and blue. Just last night I'd been struggling with an overly yellow pine in an orange canyon that I eventually solved with a mask, but this put into place why I needed to go to such a specific mask. And a timely video as I'm about to tackle a sunrise shot with a rainbow. I'll definitely take the color course. It's just a question of when I can work in the time.
Awesome! Glad this will help you with the next shot. Color fascinates me. I will die before I master it and while that may defeat some, it excites me more than anything else in this industry.
Same for me! Spent a lot more money on blue light lenses, tried them for a few days and realised I couldn't judge colours right, and stopped using them with my editing.
Good afternoon. On the other hand, our brains correct colors in certain situations/compositions. The brain just makes a mess of it when you work with colors. Maybe there are even more other influences. In any case, it is not easy to put a finger on it. Enjoyed your movie friend!
Here’s a weird one for you. A few years ago I realized that my eyes each have a different white balance. I don’t remember why but I changed to look through my viewfinder with my other eye and the white balance was totally different. That revelation made me totally rethink white balance in general. It made me realize that I cannot possibly use my own eyes to decide what colors are what. It also made me realize that maybe I shouldn't really care since every person and every monitor will treat it somewhat differently.
Another unicorn here! One on the warm side and one cool. I shoot 90% of my work at 5500k and adjust to taste in ACR. If I'm shooting indoors I always adjust to the lighting. I do mostly landscape and street.
Hey, four eyes! (just kidding, Blake, the specs look great) Great discussion and demonstration, even for someone (like me) with defective color vision. Great stuff.
Thanks for the excellent content - as always! And as a side bonus, I learned how to fine adjust color temperature and brightness on my Lumecube Edgelight 2.0. I have the first version as well, and always thought it was odd that they took away the fine adjustment. Thanks! 🙂
This is why it is called white balance. In the printing days a good balance was needed to produce a print that would be generally pleasing. Today when 99% of images are viewed on a screen, often a tiny one on a phone those images will look different to almost everyone unless they have calibrated screens, very unlikely. So I just try to get a white balance that looks close to the scene actually did. That's it...
Thanks, Blake. For a long time I have resisted wearing bluelight-blocking eyeglasses because I was afraid it would bias my photo editing. I wonder if that is a valid concern. How will you compensate for the impact of your glasses on how you perceive colors? Thank you!
I'm getting a pair that doesn't have blockers in them specifically for editing photos. It does throw off my edits, not significantly, but enough to concern me.
@@f64Academy Also, there really isn't any solid proof that blue blocking glasses do anything other than change your color perception. (Source: Wife is an optometrist) ----- “The American Academy of Ophthalmology does not recommend blue light-blocking glasses because of the lack of scientific evidence that blue light is damaging to the eyes. ” In short, there are other factors in play that may be contributing to your eye strain. ----- A better bet for eye strain is the 20 20 20 rule, which means every 20 minutes take a 20 second break to look at something 20 (or more) feet away. Also, a lot of eye strain is probably dry eyes, which can come from staring at screens too long, but could also be indicative of MGD, which there are some great treatments for these days beyond just eye drops (which mostly just treat symptoms). I'd ditch the blue blocking glasses. They aren't doing anything for you especially if you can't even edit with them on because they screw up your sense of color.
@@f64Academy I wrote a response that seems to have disappeared, but TLDR: There is no evidence that blue blocking glasses do anything. Ditch them. Use the 20 20 20 rule for eye strain relief. Also, consider having your optometrist examine you for MGD, which maybe causing dry eyes. Dry eyes often get described as eye strain.
u did a video in the past talking about this when u were explaining color correction , the video is private now tho and im unable to watch it . can u do more videos about color ?
I have tons of videos on color. There is a whole playlist on the channel titled Color Grading. Every video I do on color I try to put in that playlist. If its unlisted, there's probably a reason for it :)
While it is important to understand white balance and do things intentionally when capturing and editing a photo, a lot of what you showed here is exactly why 99.9% of photographers don't need to sweat white balance all that much. Everyone's monitor is using a different color profile and people that buy your prints may frame them with tinted glass or use tinted lighting. Understand it, yes. Be intentional, yes. Lose sleep over it? No.
That won't help. Becuase that color meter will only work for specific colors. It won't change the fact that the camera can't determine that there is a need for multiple white balances based on the elements in the photo.
Wait till you are 70 and the lenses in your eyes have started to yellow with age. LOL Had to have a lens replaced and now the new lens eye leans green/blue and the other eye (old lens) leans yellow/red. What I see in the EVF color wise varies with which eye I use. Point being, from person to person, how do we know which WB is real unless you just set a Kelvin and ignore what you see on the calibrated monitor.
Ugh, the struggle is real! For the most part color is subjective, but it can be objective as I outlined here. Find something white as your point of balance, or even middle grey, balance off of that, then go from there.
Great video but maybe a follow up when you used to the blue tint glasses. Ive been wearing them a few years and realised when i did edited a headshot session with 30 people. The blue light filter glasses effected my colour judgement as the skin tones were off slightly. I now use non filter glasses when doing critical colour work. It maybe a little too niche but any ideas to compensate for this would be appreciated.
I realized that too and got the same glasses again without them. I'll wear those specifically when I'm editing and the blue light ones when I'm doing other admin work.
Thank you! Life long glasses wearer, blind without them. I didn’t realize how much they shift the white balance on my monitor! Take them off and there is a huge difference. Appreciate you sharing your knowledge!
I highly recommend this course because it's eye opening. I have a modified camera so I do need to set a custom w/b only to give me a better starting point and that is subjective as color correcting your monitor. I only do this because it helps me with keeping constantly in my work flow. Again I highly recommend this course is next level and will bring out the best of your vision whatever your personal choice and equipment or processes are. Thank you Blake for opening up new and exciting times in my processing.
Thanks, Chris! I really appreciate your feedback :) It was one of my favorites to put together.
The struggle is real. I've worn contact for 30+ years, but just in the past 3 years or so I've started needing to add some reading glasses to the mix. I got some of the blue light blocking glasses and they definitely give a yellow tint to things. Great for my 8-5 job, not so much for working with photos. Definitely recommend a pair without the yellow tint for any color sensitive work.
I've shot on AWB for years but recently started experimenting (isn't that what photography is all about) with shooting everything at 5500K after seeing a video about it. It more closely matches the results from the old daylight balanced film that I shot for years, and is consistent if I'm going to do any stitching. I may go back to AWB eventually, but it give me something to try out and see what works best for me.
Thanks for the information.
If you are stitching, for sure, you'll need to ensure your white balance is pegged so it doesn;t shift as the camera moves. The software can compensate for that, but its not the best. For the most part AWB treats me well. Tungsten is just horrible hahaha
Great video, thanks Blake. Learning a lot from the colour course, I've replayed some of those colour grading lessons over and over...
Great explanation Blake! Quick question, when you jumped back to your computer desk (7:40 in) and into PS, wearing your new glasses (which I will probably be wearing also come December [should I ask for blue light blockers?]), did your new glasses with blue light filtering lenses effect the way you saw how to edit the photo? And by the way, you look almost stately wearing them. 😂💜💜😂 (I use an Edge Light 2.0 too.)
9:09 in 😂😂😂😂😂😂
It does affect my editing, quite a bit actually. I'm thinking about getting the same pair without the lenses now specifically for editing and using the others for general work.
I can't help myself, Petapixel annoys the junk out of me.
@@f64Academy I might do that too. 😎
@@TC_Conner eyebuydirect.com is where we get them, relatively inexpensive too
Fantastic video, Blake! You have shown the importance of not trusting the camera and also how important it is to do color correction. Also, you brought out that if one tries to do color grading without doing color correction first, the image will be ruined. Color correction comes first.
I bought the Color Course the day it came out. My opinion? If you want to do serious work with color in Photoshop, you need the Color Course!
I love it! Great opinion, but I'm biased 🤣
This was outstanding. I always had green as a problem color and the lightbulb clicked on this video that the problem was because it's a mix of yellow and blue. Just last night I'd been struggling with an overly yellow pine in an orange canyon that I eventually solved with a mask, but this put into place why I needed to go to such a specific mask. And a timely video as I'm about to tackle a sunrise shot with a rainbow. I'll definitely take the color course. It's just a question of when I can work in the time.
Awesome! Glad this will help you with the next shot. Color fascinates me. I will die before I master it and while that may defeat some, it excites me more than anything else in this industry.
Same for me! Spent a lot more money on blue light lenses, tried them for a few days and realised I couldn't judge colours right, and stopped using them with my editing.
I'm seeing (pun intended) that too. I ordered some non blue light glasses specifically for editing.
Good afternoon. On the other hand, our brains correct colors in certain situations/compositions. The brain just makes a mess of it when you work with colors. Maybe there are even more other influences. In any case, it is not easy to put a finger on it. Enjoyed your movie friend!
Here’s a weird one for you. A few years ago I realized that my eyes each have a different white balance. I don’t remember why but I changed to look through my viewfinder with my other eye and the white balance was totally different. That revelation made me totally rethink white balance in general. It made me realize that I cannot possibly use my own eyes to decide what colors are what. It also made me realize that maybe I shouldn't really care since every person and every monitor will treat it somewhat differently.
Woah! You're a unicorn! Lol that is very rare.
Same here. The difference is only slight, but I have been aware of it since boyhood, long before monitors were invented!
Another unicorn here! One on the warm side and one cool. I shoot 90% of my work at 5500k and adjust to taste in ACR. If I'm shooting indoors I always adjust to the lighting. I do mostly landscape and street.
Great reminder, thanks Blake!
Hey, four eyes! (just kidding, Blake, the specs look great)
Great discussion and demonstration, even for someone (like me) with defective color vision. Great stuff.
🤣 thanks! I'm always impressed by people who have color deficiencies and process photos. And you do it well!
Not related to the main topic, but great choice of the frames! The look good on you 👍
Thanks I appreciate it 😁 my wife picked them out 😁
Thanks for the excellent content - as always! And as a side bonus, I learned how to fine adjust color temperature and brightness on my Lumecube Edgelight 2.0. I have the first version as well, and always thought it was odd that they took away the fine adjustment. Thanks! 🙂
😁 glad I could help!
This is why it is called white balance. In the printing days a good balance was needed to produce a print that would be generally pleasing. Today when 99% of images are viewed on a screen, often a tiny one on a phone those images will look different to almost everyone unless they have calibrated screens, very unlikely. So I just try to get a white balance that looks close to the scene actually did. That's it...
And that's okay too. It's okay to want more for your color and it's okay to be good with what you get 😁
Love the glasses. What nake are they?
I got them on a site called eyebuydirect they are the "Wit" frames.
Do you take off your glasses which have the yellow filter to compensate for the blue light while you edit your photographs on the monitor?
Yes, it shifts the white balance a lot.
Thanks, Blake. For a long time I have resisted wearing bluelight-blocking eyeglasses because I was afraid it would bias my photo editing. I wonder if that is a valid concern. How will you compensate for the impact of your glasses on how you perceive colors? Thank you!
I'm getting a pair that doesn't have blockers in them specifically for editing photos. It does throw off my edits, not significantly, but enough to concern me.
@@f64Academy Also, there really isn't any solid proof that blue blocking glasses do anything other than change your color perception. (Source: Wife is an optometrist)
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“The American Academy of Ophthalmology does not recommend blue light-blocking glasses because of the lack of scientific evidence that blue light is damaging to the eyes. ” In short, there are other factors in play that may be contributing to your eye strain.
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A better bet for eye strain is the 20 20 20 rule, which means every 20 minutes take a 20 second break to look at something 20 (or more) feet away.
Also, a lot of eye strain is probably dry eyes, which can come from staring at screens too long, but could also be indicative of MGD, which there are some great treatments for these days beyond just eye drops (which mostly just treat symptoms).
I'd ditch the blue blocking glasses. They aren't doing anything for you especially if you can't even edit with them on because they screw up your sense of color.
@@f64Academy Thank you for your comment, Blake. Have a great weekend.
@@f64Academy I wrote a response that seems to have disappeared, but TLDR: There is no evidence that blue blocking glasses do anything. Ditch them. Use the 20 20 20 rule for eye strain relief. Also, consider having your optometrist examine you for MGD, which maybe causing dry eyes. Dry eyes often get described as eye strain.
@@justinrichardson3864 good to know! He did say I have dry eyes and I'm using lubricated drops for that as well.
Happy belated Birthday, you have lived the life of two 20 year olds. Great video, it gave me a few ah hah moments.........
u did a video in the past talking about this when u were explaining color correction , the video is private now tho and im unable to watch it . can u do more videos about color ?
I have tons of videos on color. There is a whole playlist on the channel titled Color Grading. Every video I do on color I try to put in that playlist. If its unlisted, there's probably a reason for it :)
Looking distinguished in those specs, Blake.
:) Thanks!
While it is important to understand white balance and do things intentionally when capturing and editing a photo, a lot of what you showed here is exactly why 99.9% of photographers don't need to sweat white balance all that much. Everyone's monitor is using a different color profile and people that buy your prints may frame them with tinted glass or use tinted lighting.
Understand it, yes. Be intentional, yes. Lose sleep over it? No.
True, but most people lose sleep over not knowing this stuff 😁
Maybe we should go back to purchasing a colour meter as back in the day of film. I haven't seen a colour meter for a long time
That won't help. Becuase that color meter will only work for specific colors. It won't change the fact that the camera can't determine that there is a need for multiple white balances based on the elements in the photo.
Wait till you are 70 and the lenses in your eyes have started to yellow with age. LOL Had to have a lens replaced and now the new lens eye leans green/blue and the other eye (old lens) leans yellow/red. What I see in the EVF color wise varies with which eye I use. Point being, from person to person, how do we know which WB is real unless you just set a Kelvin and ignore what you see on the calibrated monitor.
Ugh, the struggle is real! For the most part color is subjective, but it can be objective as I outlined here. Find something white as your point of balance, or even middle grey, balance off of that, then go from there.