Honest One-Month Review of my Segway P100S Electric Scooter 🛴
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I've had my Segway P100s for one month now and I've done over 150 miles so far. I average around 4-6 miles per day and I ride about 4-5 times per week. The scooter is great so far but there are a few flaws but lots of great things as well.
0:00 Intro
0:48 Features & Specs
3:16 How-to fold
3:41 Using NFC card
4:36 Review begins
11:34 Bumpy road test
13:53 Hill climb test
15:37 Final thoughts
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It is more fun than a BMW, you are standing up! That is what is special
Thank you so so much for taking the time to review the P100s!
I've been looking for a proper review for months and all I ever found was reviews for the smaller P65, or for the much more expensive GT2 (paid reviews no less)
My first and current scooter is the Hiboy S2 Max, and while I like the little rascal a lot, it leaves a bit to be desired on distance and speed that I need in my area, not to mention the suspension
Thank you again for your time spent on the review! I finally have a solid voice and thought on the scooter, and it's definitely on my Christmas List.
Best P100S review on TH-cam. Thank you.
It handled that hill from La Jolla Shores up to UCSD better than I would have expected for a single motor scooter. Good review.
Steep ass hill right?? Prob in all of San Diego.
Thanks for the review great points coverd.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the review, you gave me a lot of think about. A month ago I purchased a little Segway D28 on sale for the heck of it. It's so much fun to zip around the neighborhood. I'm going with a big boy next spring, kinda like the guy who buys a starter bike and instantly outgrows it, haha. Cheers!
Incredible review, thank you so much! My next scooter for sure, if I can figure a way to get one in the UK
Doesn't the UK have some weird scooter laws?
Park means it won't take off from a standstill even if you have it set to zero start.
Automatically shifting to park after stopping/getting off/etc is so that someone doesn't "whiskey throttle" the accelerator and the scooter jumps to full acceleration without someone on it.
Bingo! @chris
Reviewer is dumb as a sack of hammers.
This was an incredibly comprehensive (and honest!) review! I, too, am a P100S owner and feel that this was a great investment especially as a first scooter striking a balance between performance and utility that will last me for years.
The best point you made is that this is perfect for people who commute 5-10 mi daily which for me fills in that "last-mile" gap that I have at work between the employee parking lot and airport terminal that I work in but also commuting more easily around downtown.
I completely agree about this model feeling solid even traveling at higher speeds and also the design of the P100S (and P65) looks well thought out and streamlined. You might have already touched on this in your forthcoming video but after having my P100S since late April and at about 300 mi... my biggest gripes are with the rear brake.
I've had to align/center my brake assembly on several occasions hearing the brake rotor rubbing lightly on a brake pad after some riding and also needed to tighten the rear brake cable because the tension loosened which gave my rear brake less stopping power (maybe new cable stretch). I've been reading online about others having issues with the fender loosening or falling off, however, I haven't had that fate as I've been ensuring weekly the axle nut cover screws are tightened. All of these simple adjustments I've only used 5, 4, 2.5mm hex keys and needlenose pliers. Also as a cyclist, I feel like Segway reversed the brake levers with the right controlling the front brake and left controlling the rear; it should've been the other way around IMHO.
Anyway, awesome job with the amount of time shooting and editing this video and you definitely covered a lot with your P100S. Eager to see other videos of your experience with the P100S you make!
Happy and safe riding!!
Thanks for the comment! I’ve yet to look at brakes or anything else. So far so good. I’m currently at about 190 miles. Maybe it’s a good time I start tooling around.
it's not an investment
You did a fantastic job with reviewing the P100s. I own one and think it's a beast. I also keep mine in drive mode. Live in NYC and the speed limit is 25mph on the local streets anyway. 25 MPH on a stand up scooter is impressive enough for me. The initial torque on sport mode is too intense for me. LOL.
100% agree.. with a full charge, sport mode is too intense.. careful giving it gas on a turn. It better be a straight only.
Great review! I have a G2 Max on the way.
Enjoy it
Great review. I just took mine out for my first ride yesterday. My wife was on the Max G30, so I set my Drive mode limit to 19 MPH so she could keep up. Of course, there were several times where I did full runs in sport mode. In total, we did 19.6 miles, with some decent hills excedding 25 degree climb angles. Upon returning, the P100 had 46% battery remaining, which was more than I expected with a 6'1" 220lb rider. The G30, which ran in Sport the entire way had 48%, but its rider is 100 lbs lighter.
After checking the tires, I was only on 17psi, so that range should be better at 40psi.
Great video, thanks for sharing
Great review thankyou
Great review! That was a great course (hilly, traffic, lots of stop/start)... This is tempting for a commuter vehicle. I'm in central Florida, so it's fairly flat (unlike La Jolla). I just wish our weather was as nice as San Diego/La Jolla.
Nice comprehensive review. I have the P65 and am looking to upgrade to the P100s for the suspension since the P65 is my all around favorite scooter for its balance of weight, price and power. I also have the GT2, which I love, but dang that thing is heavy when loading and unloading from a vehicle.
around 1500$ now and best offer in this range with legal 650w nominell here in croatia. limited to 25kmh but still fast enough and very good range.
Wow what an impressive review of P100s scooter. I got an email offer from Segway for $200 off for the labor day, so i was considering it but then decided to wait and see if they have more aggressive deal on it on Black Friday. But your review is on point, very well done. Subscribed!
Be patient.. deals get better as the year ends. At some point, everyone in China will just give shit away to build sales history & velocity.
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I've been seeing these on Amazon for $1500 lately
Excellent review, very informative 👍🏼 SUBSCRIBED
Thanks for the sub!
Oh. Park mode means when you stop it for a certain amount of time, it switches to it. You have to press down on the throttle to disable it, and then you can ride the scooter. It’s a premium safety feature.
8:40 this actually isn't how the motor power works. I have a G30LP and the motor gets up to 800 watts, at least that is what the new 6.0 app watt indicator says. Your scooter motor has a nominal power of 650 watts, which is like the normal wattage the scooter will operate at, however, the wattage of your scooter gets up to around 1300 watts of peak power (according to online sources). Your eco mode is likely operating at the nominal power of 650 watts, as my scooter operates at its nominal power in eco mode: 350 watts. Your drive mode would probably get to around 950-1000 watts, whereas the sport mode accesses the maximum motor power.
Also, the park mode is there so that an accidental throttle input doesn't cause the scooter to go haywire. It is a safety feature on all segway kickscooters as to prevent injury or damage to the scooter. Hopefully this helps.
i am 5'8" and weigh 125 lbs. on 100% down to about 65% - ish on 'Drive' mode, if I don't lean forward over the bars at stop to low speed before I punch it, the torque is enough for the front end to lift up and want to wheelie. I can't have two fingers on the brakes while max acceleration, either - only one. I need at least four fingers gripping the handle bar, or I will fly off. This is also on 'Drive' mode. I think it's safe to say that I don't need anything faster 😂
Self healing tires have a liquid sealant in them. If there is a small puncture, the sealent leaks out and seals the hole.
650 watts is the nominal wattage.
The P100S peaks at 1350 watts. This is how it gets to 30mph.
Nominal power output refers to the rated power that a motor can produce without damaging itself. Peak output is the maximum power that a motor can generate for short periods of time before overheating or other issues can occur. While it can do 1350.. 95% of the time, it uses 650 watts. Most scooters with even 500w can do 30 mph but they are restricted for obvious reasons (tires, lack of suspension, battery management, inverter, etc).
Hey, great work, love your honesty. From the street view I saw so far, I don’t think you are in the greater Seattle area, looks like California, or I will let you review my new GT2😃
I appreciate that!
I think I would like to see turning lights on the ends of the handle bars, but that might bring the cost up
Park mode is protection mode when you stand still, you cant accelerate. You can activate it by pressing brakes and off you go. Also William forgets to mention 650W is lowest in sports, once you accelerate faster you get up to 1500W on a single motor. I have been using it for 2 months and I'm more than happy to have it. There might be a few cons tho ; water makes suspension squicky, so you have to "lubricate" them with specific oil. I also noticed while driving uphill in sports mode, you feel like driving automatic car when it strugle to switch to higher gear (maybe a software bug). For me personally these brakes or wheels are not good for high speed stopping. I had to re-adjust brake disks but that's normal when it comes out of fabric. But I will switch to hydraulic brakes soon, kinda bad that for this price they haven't include it. Overall this scooter is beast and very powerful, I love it!
I responded to someone else about nominal vs peak.
Yep I'm thinking same thing when I got Vsett 10+ is yust small tires ,litle roud bumb on full gas and I'm dead. But I ride Vsett8 in EU max is 25km so mine goes 38km so it's enuff for mee ,.and yesterday I just tried batery state cos I riden 1300km and it goes 50km with me 83kg and full trotel also hills. But yes for safe and smart riding is super good. And this Segvay or biger newer model its on my radar.
Awesome review ❤
Can we adjust the suspension? If yes, please share how to. Not getting this information anywhere.
I have the same one and I'm not happy with it. The suspension is horrible, it vibrates too much and you can feel the smallest grooves in the road in your arms. I use it every day to go to work, 44 kilometers. I have had to go to the kinesiologist to relieve neck and shoulder pain. The Max G2 was better, less vibrations and lighter.
I own a Niu KQi3 Pro for 5 months and have ridden 1,100 miles on it. It still works good.
I own NIU KQI 3 MAX and i think SEGWAY copy its design from NIU
@@rosylmohametanohyperdrone7676it ain't the real Segway anymore, the company Ninebot controls the operation😢
And how's his autonomy? Does it really meet the stated 60km?
@@rosylmohametanohyperdrone7676 And how's his autonomy? Does it really meet the stated 60km?
very nice review! subbed. I plan to get one myself soon for review on my channel too!
Thanks for the sub!
@@WilliamShakerTech Your channel deserves 100X more subs! Only another TH-camr knows how much effort it takes to make such a great video!
Thank you, means a lot!
Park is for safety so you don’t accidentally hit the accelerator
Oh I see.. I set mine for 0.6 mph instead of instant throttle so this is why I thought it was useless..
Hi. Can you use it off road? Probably not right? Thanks
I have a question for all of you out there with e scooter experience. If got a balance disorder, which means that i can't ride a bike for example, i think the closest alternative to that with 2 wheels would be an e scooter but i've never driven one yet because they are still illigal on public roads over here. They're working on levalisation for it for halfway thrugh the year. Would it be worth buying or trying? Do you need to work your balance (as much as on a bike) to not fall over?
Is it possible that the accessories holes where you put the phone holder can also accept standard motorcycle mirrors? It would be nice to have a km/h equivalent shown on screen for us, international viewers 😅
Segway sells side mirrors that screw into the handlebars.
Tbh it looks to performancy I wish they used the max platform also wish the projections would be used as turn indicators
gave my p100se back after 1 month and 300km driven. Rear suspension is damaged. left arm is not working. rear fender just dropped because it came loose too. its a design fault because every one of the two suspension arms can work independently and cause the wheelaxis to tilt sideways and get loose. its a big dissapointment. i will try the GT1 now on which the rear suspension arm is a U and not two seperate arms.
Can I ask you to measure the height of the scooter (from the ground to the handlebars) and the length (front wheel to back wheel) Thank you 🙏🏻❤️ amazing video
Let me check
Have you had any issues with the suspension alignment/noise, stem wobble, or brake pad rubbing yet?
No, people that have that kinda issues usually abuse them.
is that about 32 kph ?
Are they going to make a seat for this one? My max is much more stable with a seat
20 mph cars can maneuver easy. 30 mph cars hesitate. 40 mph you are back at a safe speed. plus the right sides of the roads with drains and potholes aren't designed for 25 mph. jump back in the middle of the road at 45 mph with wider lane and u will feel just fine.
nice
Thanks
This scooter is all about quality performance with quality build.
I need help, I just bought the P100S and it does no go above 17 miles per hour. I looked everywhere in the app and I can’t see the speed adjustment setting anywhere. Anyone else have this problem?
Where do you live in?
How to do you lock up your scooter on errands?
U-lock
Mine 9 months old and is making pop pop pop noice from rear tire , probably from engine. Anybody has any idea?
Can you turn off the projection lights? I’m worried about being targeted because of how ridiculously flashy this thing looks
Yes
I liked the disappearing Runners… 🙂
Whats the difference between the P100S & P200SE ?!
I had no idea a P200SE existed.. I can’t find anything.
Can you review the Segway dW18
Sure! Ask Segway to send me one (seriously.. email them that you like my vids and want to see more Segway)
I'm 200 pounds and real life range on this scooter is 30 miles. Still not bad, but disappointed it's half of what they claim.
Thanks for this comment! I'm also 200 and range on my E45 was 1/3 of claimed, though we have some light hills. An easily swappable drop-in battery would be great to allow me to carry 2 in a backpack and travel the distances I want.
Grab a Vsett Super72 and you will feel safe to go fast ;)
Those things are like 5k right? I hope they come calling for a sponsorship lol I doubt it.
@@WilliamShakerTech perfect scooters def are not cheap...
I put at least twice as many miles on my scooter than I did on my car last summer.
I mean is miles on hour ? Because at 25 is in fact 40 kilometers on hour !?
Please confirm and great thanks !!
It will do 30 mph.. you can convert it on Google.
For $200 more you can get a GT1
What do you do with it when you arrive at CVS, etc!?
Walk in and buy something.
@@WilliamShakerTech Wow, someone who actually buys stuff at cvs. everyone just walks out of mine without paying. Guess that's why they're closing the end of the month.
Bring it in with you (what I do) or lock it at a bike locking area.
You mentioned, you take this scooter to cvs/gym. Can you take the scooter with you inside?
Yes I’ve taken it inside CVS but I lock it up before entering the gym.
Thanks! No problems riding this on San Diego hills either right? We have a lot of hills in Chula Vista.
Did you watch the entire video?
@@TimImasahe should make a video trying to ride it up dictionary hill. That would be a fun video
This seems to be the perfect standing speed for a scooter, i go 100+kph on my ebike but i cant stand going over 50kph standing up
Woa... what ebike is this? and yes.... 30 mph is pretty sketch... I always LOL at people who buy hyper scooters and then see them in motorcycle gear riding it... like dude.. serious? lol
sur ron with bac 8000 72v and stock motor. top speed can do 130+ if I really changed the gearing 150+ but honestly im not going over 80@@WilliamShakerTech
its basically a heavily modified segway x260 aka sur ron (segway bought them not vice versa)@@WilliamShakerTech
Good to know 👍
I got a solar ff lite and i can do 45 mph. Scares me every time.
why I can't find a retailer in Europe selling this particular model?!
EU may have weird laws regarding scooters.. it’s completely hypocritical since they have this almost impossible ‘ban gasoline’ car BS by 2050 law yet they have all sorts of rules regarding alternative transport. Go figure
@@WilliamShakerTech yes, you're right, it's communism infecting the eu parliament, I had to pay €30 just to be able to fly a dji mini. I bought a Max G2 version, it's not bad, but I wanted this one too since I love the quality of the scooter.
@@kavorka8855 Commie for sure... with it also comes lots of bureaucracy which makes people pay $30 just to fly a drone..
you forgot Sport Plus !1
Should I get segway p100s, segway gt2 or blade gt plus?
P100S has best resale value.. prepare to lose more than 50% the day you sell the GT2
PS: buy an actual motorcycle if you’re going to spend GT2 money.
@@WilliamShakerTech thanks for the advice !
That looks like san diego utc
🔥🔥❤️❤️😍😍🫡🫡🚀🚀👍👍i just bought p65 ❤️❤️🔥🔥
Your issue with the brakes is what they call a "user error"
Park tells you that if you hit the throttle, nothing will happen. If the unit doesn’t say park, it means the throttle is live.
In other words you can be prevented from turning this thing on by external authorities. Whatever happened to a switch???? Everything has to be controlled by a gatekeeper.
I had to return my p100s after 15 days. I have 4 shorts that show the poor build quality of this scooter. What an absolute mess of a product. I hope people avoid this scooter until they fix all the serious issues with the design.
The rear disc brake rotor is mounted to a plastic hub extension. It warped after a long ride. Was un-ridable after that, unless you completely disconnect the brake caliper.
I saw your videos, sorry to hear that. However, I have been riding mine a lot and have 200 miles on the ODO and I don’t experience what you have in such a short time. Something tells me that maybe your P100 was abused.
@@WilliamShakerTech not abused. Used for commuting to work. Had over 400 miles on it after 15 days.
@@WilliamShakerTech the way you keep claiming people who have issues are abusing theirs makes me think you're paid sponsor, or maybe just extremely sheltered and never ride anything but perfect roads with even the tiniest bump. The difference between a high quality product is it's reliable even when abused.
@@DarthTinderalla-qm9zw I paid for this with my own money.. bumpy roads.. hmm.. common sense will tell you that tiny wheels and off roading or bumpy roads with is not a good idea. Get an ebike instead, plenty out there for $1000 these days and a MUCH BETTER option than an overpriced scooter. I've sold my P100s about 1-2 months ago. How is that for being biased and sponsored?
1. P100S has bad quality disc brakes. If you transport scooter in the car, they will change geometric shape and start to rub on pads.
2. Suspension is also vulnerable, and after a 100 km wheels start to rotate by obvious swinging way in my case. When you rotate wheels manually while scooter is stopped it is clearly noticeable.
3. For only rear wheel powered scooter it has to much momentum when you starting a scooter. It is relatively easy to loose control if you are not very careful with dosing a throttle at start.
Height weight shoe size.
1.5.24.😮
I’d like to see you put it in a car
why your house has so many room?
Saying the motor only uses 650w shows a complete lack of understanding of electronic control systems. The battery is a max voltage of 54.6, in high support it sends over 100 phase amps(over 5000w) through the motor. The 650 is a rating number and it's almost arbitrary. The motor does not determine the current
Who cares. I don’t.
@@WilliamShakerTech you made a whole video on it 🙄
No.. who cares about all the tech details. Anyway.. it’s cool you like shop manual details but not everyone is so anal about that stuff. You do you champ.
@@WilliamShakerTech do you consider yourself a fan?
Yah. He is kind of dumb. He says lots of dumb things in his review. Good thing he can live off of his inheritance.
That’s a lot of dough for a single 650w motor!
the max power output is way higher than 650 watts
@@ropeysubstance1719 I understand it is nominal and not max. I mean for $2000 you can get dual 1200w motors with max power output way higher than 1200w that will go 40 mph plus in no time. For the Segway name I'd pay $1299 at most for this.
@@ropeysubstance1719
Max power is 1350W..!!!🤣
Sport mode max is 1350W.!
Dude - you missed one MAJOR INFORMATION - RANGE!!!!
I think Segway copy the design of NIU KQI3 . I prefer NIU when it comes to Looks and ZERAZS RANGER PRO for Speed
They are all Chinese and they are all copycats. No one is original.
PS; who cares? Buy the best copy. You win!
He couldnt just say car he has to keep saying bmw. Lmao we get it youre proud
BMW
You have a lot of scooters lol
I just posted a new pic in my community section.. it’s a slight upgrade to the P100s lol
A but if rant:
The problem is not with the scooters; it’s the kids and 20-year-olds.
Some understand the rules of the road, and they wear a helmet. They don’t speed and are courteous to others.
The rest are just idiots. They ride on the highway going fast as possible. No helmet. They are just waiting for the right accident to give up their lives and possibly donate their organs to people that need them.
E-Bike and scooter deaths are now one of the top devices surpassing motorcycle deaths.
Regulators, enforcement and education committee action groups are the only way to make this mode of transportation safer for all.
This tops out 30mph, and I can still pedal faster than that. Regulations will just mean more taxes and maybe insurance taking more money. I don't mind you giving your freedom up for false security, as long as you stop trying to take everyone elses.
Scooter seems WEAK! I like some of the safety features it has but I go big with electric scooters
Sounds like you're compensating for excitement my man. Over-the-top scooters are for people who're too afraid to ride motorcycles (scooters are foreplay... motorcycles are sex).. but anyway... Go watch me wrestle 240hp around a race track on my other channel and we can talk more. (scooters are purely for last mile trips.. I don't think they are fun to ride.. but hey.. thats just me)
no need to gloat about your car......boring
Why no helmet? If you get taken out by a car you are asking for brain damage. Cray cray.
Only sissy boys wear helmets.. the kind that get 10th place trophies 🏆
GARBAGE...DIRECTLY IN THE BIN
Ehhhhh... whatsup doc?
No offense you do not seem the most knowledgeable
Make your own video and show how it’s done champ.
Not sure why Electric Scooter Guide didn't review this but I am glad you did! 😀🛴
Because I paid with my own money. I don’t think Segway sends this for review.
@WilliamShakerTech Some lucky e scooter reviews out there do recieve an email from Segway to promote their latest Ninebot scooters. Keep an eye on your inbox for news from them
Fingers crossed 🤞
@@WilliamShakerTech Yes