I genuinely don't understand why the sandbox team is trying to get people to use swords more... but then go and make a stomp mechanic for the boss that just ONESHOTS you?? 💀
@@TheEverydayGamer1000 We added DR afterwards because we know it's bad but also increased the damage but not really but nerfed golden gun but also not really - bungo
theoretically with black talon optimized, landing 100% of the right clicks, and proccing the catalyst perk for the damage buff, it would be 8.1 mil with a 15% debuff, making it 2nd place in top 5 team with no divinity
so my takeaway from this video is grand overture is the undisputed champion, followed by anarchy and then whisper? if I got that right, overture seems to be able to combine good burst with sustained, on a fight with a long as hell damage phase that favorites total damage rather than burst, since you can prestack your 20 shots it does make a lot of sense. guess for any subsequent runs im gonna make the switch to that one from now on.
@@Casualfieldyeah my first clear was using edge transit and supremacy then swapping to outbreak after dumping all my ammo, two wells and a celestial was a pretty clean 3 phase. im curious why overture is so good against this boss but im assuming it’s because like I said, it’s a good mix of burst and total damage that hard carries it. only issue with gls is ammo economy, unless you got a ceno warlock making bricks your reliant on rng after a phase where you can potentially save ammo with overture.
@@irrelevantnamehandle @irrelevantnamehandle Ceno is a must overture or not imo for contest. Ya go is good because you can always load 20x missiles before dps and can sustain dps the whole time depending on reserve cap as most heavies can't + bricks give a lot of potential dmg comparatively. On top of that it's uptime & ease of use are a huge factor too. My team was two titans, 2x tcrash per phase (416K dmg ea) and wellock with support frame/sleeper/ceno/speaker swap. I was pushing 7.5m+ since I ignored ads completely, other titan was 6.5m+ warlock was 2.8m. according to wipe screen when we wiped with a sliver of hp left.
Whisper could achieve a hypothetical 1-phase if you have ammo laying around, which is technically impossible. You run out of Divinity and Whisper, however, you could swap to something like Outbreak for that second damage phase a little bit for chip damage, go down, complete the tasks, get ammo and finish him comfortably from the barrel. Anarchy is quite good though, I'm very surprised with that amount of damage.
Bungie: we don't want all players to sit in a well during every dps so we're nerfing well. Also bungie: makes a boss fight where the entire arena kills you if you don't have well
They kinda fixed it, they can still kill you in well, you now need multiple sources of damage reduction or healing to stay alive. At leas in contest mode it was like that.
This video was so much effort just to test the exotics on the boss. Having to do two bottom phases just to get to DPS phase xD Thanks for the effort! Much appreciated :D
Anarchy is honestly the goat for this. Yeah Grand overture is better for pure dmg, but having to proc it everytime is annoying, plus its very clunky to use. So much easier to Just pop two anarchy shots and swap to your other weapons for dmg while anarchy ticks him especially with breach and clear.
Coming from the exotic special damage test video, they really need to cut the crap and make Darci a special weapon if they aren't going to give it a meaningful buff. Both still hunt and cloudstrike do more damage than it and they're special weapons. If people want a damaging heavy sniper they'll use whisper instead. Meanwhile Darci has similar damage to other exotic special snipers, yet they're bent on having it be a heavy weapon why?
Consistent 8 mil damage on Titan tip: use Grand Overture, indebted kindness, hazardous propulsion with COTFS on hard swap, two arc surges and one arc holster. Pre bunker, fist half of the damage phase use a 6x Hazardous Propulsion barricade in a Well followed by a x20 GO volley and 20 shots. By the time you empty the mag he’ll move to another plate. Swap to IK and shoot at the boss and yellow bars intermittently, while looking out for the glowing one that drops the nuke. Doing this you should get another x6 HP volley but wont have enough time got a GO volley, so just use the barricade on the boss and get in the bunker. Second phase: While in the bunker, swap from HP to Cuirass and prime your GO volley. When the doors open, fly out with T-crash followed by a nade before landing safely, at which point unleash your GO volley and continueto shoot while dodging lightning and swapping with IK when you need to clear ads/run out of ammo.
seeing them melee attack him with Wintersbite and NOT have Heavy Ammo in the weapon pains me. It deals way more damage AND SLOWS AND FREEZES if it has Heavy ammo in it. That's where it shines. It's Ice burst shot is just for add clear and insta freezing a foe
Idk if you guys figured it out, but if you stand on the cables at the ass end of the bunker 1 or 2 people can stand there and not get hit by the lightning strikes
There are some weapons that, if you are new/dont have the best weapons, work ***fine*** in this encounter, but if its all you have then its all you have.
We managed to two phase her (or two rotations, I guess?) with Outbreak lol, it does great damage and it gives so much super energy so we got off two supers per phase easily.
theoretically, with perfect debuff uptime, along with actually proccing black talon's catalyst, it should ? be able to deal somewhere around 2.7 mil, which. fascinating
good video but sorry this can't be taken as fair weapon damage test when you do Sanguine hot swap cheese for some guns and not others. example grand overture has 4x surge and the boss is marked 8:07 and I say this because if you do this with wishper you would also get the 1 phase. and dragons breath with all ignitions are bugged so that would be significantly higher as well as it doesn't really work when multiple people use it.
I wanted to include the G.O. 1 phase clip because it can do it pretty easily, and that clip wasn't from this session. 2 different people are in that clip. All the other clips I'm on Lunas. Its impossible to please everybody with these videos so the main purpose is for it to be entertaining rather than perfect situation for all 30+ heavy exotics. Im not Aegis and never claimed to be
Never knew anarchy was this good i thought it was going to be decent but seeing the damage am glad i will be able to use anarchy maybe with a sniper rifle
11:53 not that it matters that much being Black Talon for damage LMAO... But you didn't even optimize its use in the slightest. Blocking incoming damage boosts outgoing damage by 50%(I think) then you can heavy swing twice per full charge
Probably decent but theres no reason to use them. Grand overture, sleeper, levis and similar things will be always more consistent and also better dmg.
@@warv6552except that queenbreaker did not do that badly, tbh it and salvations grip both surprised with their results. Salvation's seems like it might have finally just barely crawled out of the steaming hot ass stanky garbage pile and into the unique but quirky semi-effective weird kid choice weapon.
@@adambrown6669 Queenbreaker performed worse than microcosm. Any weapon that performs worse than Microcosm is basically never worth using for dps, considering that Micro is the easiest and most effortless damage option you can choose from. But queenbreaker isn’t supposed to be a dps exotic anyways, it’s meant for utility.
I was able to out damage two people using still hunt with 1k voices and hammer of sol. I got 6.7 mill, they got 4 mill (in 3 phases). I don’t know if that proves anything, but I’d like to share
Overture did get the one phase, and unlike outbreak it can work in a pinch elsewhere to quickly kill something like one of those shotgun marauders that deserve pain. Plus outbreak does not benefit from the seasonal artifact mods, grand overture does. You get the rapid hits and the one in the far right column in the middle row, void, arc and dark ether reaper weapons gain more damage vs stasis effected enemies. Run any primary grenade launcher, whatever secondary weapon primary ammo thing you like and then grand overture with either the new warlock exotic chest armour and a bleak watcher turret or a duskfield grenade for other classes and just go to town. Any ally with Well for survivability would also be a good idea.
Rockets if 20 atleast that’s what we done on contest and we cleared. If you can tell the dps is about to end just fire however many rockets you have charged
Absolutely fire the rockets, that's the cause of most of its damage, pre - load max stacks, fire those first then unload the usual shots until you can fire the rockets again, rinse and repeat until either it has no ammo or the bosses ashes have stopped twitching.
@@michaelferrarini1463 1st: Use Stasis Super as a massive buff for Winterbite 2nd: Equip Triton Vice (if Hunter) 3rd: If boss is long range, shoot orbs in rapid succession 4th: If boss is close range, use the melee with ammo I have various builds on Winterbite on my channel if you’re interested/need clarification
@@michaelferrarini1463 thanks man! Winterbite is one of my favorite exotics, and I’ve noticed lots of TH-camrss that test dps of weapons, don’t know how Winterbite works and proceed to make fun of it. Which is why I made those build vids
my best dps was around 7.7 million for whole encounter celestial hunter with still hunt and scintillation with rewind/baitand switch. this is across all characters trying different builds.
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I genuinely don't understand why the sandbox team is trying to get people to use swords more... but then go and make a stomp mechanic for the boss that just ONESHOTS you?? 💀
I may sound like the 🤓 emoji but it’s not the stomp mechanic but the lightning that one shots you, if you can avoid it you can prolong the mission
Can ask the same question about them not improving thundercrash in a meaningful way when they make more Bosses that are less forgiving when using it
@@TheEverydayGamer1000 We added DR afterwards because we know it's bad but also increased the damage but not really but nerfed golden gun but also not really - bungo
cries in titan
Haven‘t played the dungeon, but i know people were not thinking about the block mechanic on swords at all
TL;DR - Grand Overture is #1 and it's not remotely close. All other weapons ranked:
**Top 5 Team**
8.8M - Whisper w/Div (19:23)
8.6M - Anarchy (5:51)
7.2M - The Lament (25:38)
7.2M - Thunderlord w/Div (4:52)
7.1M - Lev. Breath w/Div (13:40)
**Top 5 Team (no Divinity)**
8.6M - Anarchy (5:51)
7.2M - The Lament (25:38)
6.7M - Microcosm (33:35)
5.8M - Xenophage (21:38)
5.7M - Prospector (0:10)
**Top 5 Solo (no Divinity)**
3.3M - The Lament (25:38)
3.3M - Anarchy (5:51)
2.6M - Microcosm (33:35)
2.3M - Heartshadow (15:47)
2.1M - Gjallarhorn (27:33)
Legend
theoretically with black talon optimized, landing 100% of the right clicks, and proccing the catalyst perk for the damage buff, it would be 8.1 mil with a 15% debuff, making it 2nd place in top 5 team with no divinity
lament holding on for dear life despite all the nerfs
Anarchy's just happy to show up to the race again.
What about the triple rocket launcher with prismatic giving bonus damage to light abilities?
still to this day 1k voices would literally be meta if it just had more reserves
I mean they GAVE IT two more this season. Feels pretty good rn.
I will always want more though
They didn’t run reserve mods with it that explains a lot lmao they missed out on a lot of potential damage
no
Same with sleeper. They got shackles on those guns
i mean i got good news for u i guess not i t has infinite
9:25 homie's laugh sounds like an autobot transforming
so my takeaway from this video is grand overture is the undisputed champion, followed by anarchy and then whisper? if I got that right, overture seems to be able to combine good burst with sustained, on a fight with a long as hell damage phase that favorites total damage rather than burst, since you can prestack your 20 shots it does make a lot of sense. guess for any subsequent runs im gonna make the switch to that one from now on.
Sound about right from my contest experience, and it’s real easy to stack up ammo too.
Funny because my team cleared it with hgls and burst specials and used outbreak when empty and got another damage super off, almost two phase.
@@Casualfieldyeah my first clear was using edge transit and supremacy then swapping to outbreak after dumping all my ammo, two wells and a celestial was a pretty clean 3 phase. im curious why overture is so good against this boss but im assuming it’s because like I said, it’s a good mix of burst and total damage that hard carries it. only issue with gls is ammo economy, unless you got a ceno warlock making bricks your reliant on rng after a phase where you can potentially save ammo with overture.
@@irrelevantnamehandle @irrelevantnamehandle Ceno is a must overture or not imo for contest. Ya go is good because you can always load 20x missiles before dps and can sustain dps the whole time depending on reserve cap as most heavies can't + bricks give a lot of potential dmg comparatively. On top of that it's uptime & ease of use are a huge factor too. My team was two titans, 2x tcrash per phase (416K dmg ea) and wellock with support frame/sleeper/ceno/speaker swap. I was pushing 7.5m+ since I ignored ads completely, other titan was 6.5m+ warlock was 2.8m. according to wipe screen when we wiped with a sliver of hp left.
Whisper could achieve a hypothetical 1-phase if you have ammo laying around, which is technically impossible. You run out of Divinity and Whisper, however, you could swap to something like Outbreak for that second damage phase a little bit for chip damage, go down, complete the tasks, get ammo and finish him comfortably from the barrel. Anarchy is quite good though, I'm very surprised with that amount of damage.
Bungie: we don't want all players to sit in a well during every dps so we're nerfing well.
Also bungie: makes a boss fight where the entire arena kills you if you don't have well
They kinda fixed it, they can still kill you in well, you now need multiple sources of damage reduction or healing to stay alive. At leas in contest mode it was like that.
All this tells me is either the bosses are over tuned af caused by a few weapons, or a ton of exotic heavys need a buff
Guns like 1k need a cati others need buffs bad
Final boss is just way to tanky, 😂 bungo at it again making fights harder by just adding health
@@arkcantoscreampsnpc7274makes it more fun. Don't people want an actual boss fight, not a swipe left with this gun
lowkey both, we're strong af right now so bosses will have a lot more health now, but some of these exotics are just PISS
Health is fine imo, taking 10 minutes to get to each damage phase is what sucks.
This video was so much effort just to test the exotics on the boss. Having to do two bottom phases just to get to DPS phase xD Thanks for the effort! Much appreciated :D
Man this video must have taken forever to make haha great job guys
Anarchy is honestly the goat for this. Yeah Grand overture is better for pure dmg, but having to proc it everytime is annoying, plus its very clunky to use. So much easier to Just pop two anarchy shots and swap to your other weapons for dmg while anarchy ticks him especially with breach and clear.
Coming from the exotic special damage test video, they really need to cut the crap and make Darci a special weapon if they aren't going to give it a meaningful buff.
Both still hunt and cloudstrike do more damage than it and they're special weapons. If people want a damaging heavy sniper they'll use whisper instead.
Meanwhile Darci has similar damage to other exotic special snipers, yet they're bent on having it be a heavy weapon why?
Deathbringer cant be used by two peoole at the same time cause there can only be 6 projectiles at one time
Consistent 8 mil damage on Titan tip:
use Grand Overture, indebted kindness, hazardous propulsion with COTFS on hard swap, two arc surges and one arc holster.
Pre bunker, fist half of the damage phase use a 6x Hazardous Propulsion barricade in a Well followed by a x20 GO volley and 20 shots. By the time you empty the mag he’ll move to another plate. Swap to IK and shoot at the boss and yellow bars intermittently, while looking out for the glowing one that drops the nuke. Doing this you should get another x6 HP volley but wont have enough time got a GO volley, so just use the barricade on the boss and get in the bunker.
Second phase:
While in the bunker, swap from HP to Cuirass and prime your GO volley. When the doors open, fly out with T-crash followed by a nade before landing safely, at which point unleash your GO volley and continueto shoot while dodging lightning and swapping with IK when you need to clear ads/run out of ammo.
Excellent thank you
seeing them melee attack him with Wintersbite and NOT have Heavy Ammo in the weapon pains me. It deals way more damage AND SLOWS AND FREEZES if it has Heavy ammo in it. That's where it shines. It's Ice burst shot is just for add clear and insta freezing a foe
Idk if you guys figured it out, but if you stand on the cables at the ass end of the bunker 1 or 2 people can stand there and not get hit by the lightning strikes
I found that out on day 2. Take advantage before Bungie turns it into a Nono zone
The barrel they use is better, as soon as we found the barrel damaging the boss was free af and we got the contest clear
Cause there havent been 100s of videos and guides saying this.....
@adamboy0559 did you need 2 wells on the barrel in contest mode?
@@SkeddTV we used 2 yeah. 1 before bomb the after we used second well just outside bomb room
Keep in mind for levis, you need the catalyst for the damage to be at best
Best dps option thunderlord got it 👍
They sped through the footage but right after thunderlord they 1 phased with Grand Overture
@@kingovo1687 overture is wayyy better in terms of full damage output but tlord is pretty solid either way
Did you miss Grand overture?
correct brother. all these haters trying to get us to take off our thunderlord, saying it is a no skill option. 🤦
Thunderbird was best also for the Dungeon before this 1
not only helpful, very entertaining
They need to let Anarchy Jolt on direct hits. That would make it good
Super appreciate this, thanks!
There are some weapons that, if you are new/dont have the best weapons, work ***fine*** in this encounter, but if its all you have then its all you have.
So anarchy it is.
Pair it with a good sniper or smth and you chillin
A one shot attack in a dungeon shouldn't exist. Awful boss fight
Skill issue, dodge it
Skill issue, use a healing nade
18:30 it would have been so funny if one of you died to a sleeper refraction after saying that
This must’ve taken so long gah damn
We managed to two phase her (or two rotations, I guess?) with Outbreak lol, it does great damage and it gives so much super energy so we got off two supers per phase easily.
If you don’t mind me asking, which Trace Rifle is that? And what’s everything you have on it?
Great job guys and thanks!
theoretically, with perfect debuff uptime, along with actually proccing black talon's catalyst, it should ? be able to deal somewhere around 2.7 mil, which. fascinating
Grand Overture has the best dps hands down.
Whisper is for the best heavy ammo efficiency.
Levi and Sleeper kinda cooked also.
Subbed also many many thanks for doing this!
Reserve mods also work with levi's now, so you could have gotten a bit more damage
The Deterministic Chaos incident
To be honest Grand Overture was the least expected GOTO DPS weapon for me on this dungeon. It just feels soo random.
good video but sorry this can't be taken as fair weapon damage test when you do Sanguine hot swap cheese for some guns and not others. example grand overture has 4x surge and the boss is marked 8:07 and I say this because if you do this with wishper you would also get the 1 phase. and dragons breath with all ignitions are bugged so that would be significantly higher as well as it doesn't really work when multiple people use it.
I wanted to include the G.O. 1 phase clip because it can do it pretty easily, and that clip wasn't from this session. 2 different people are in that clip. All the other clips I'm on Lunas. Its impossible to please everybody with these videos so the main purpose is for it to be entertaining rather than perfect situation for all 30+ heavy exotics. Im not Aegis and never claimed to be
Great video
Never knew anarchy was this good i thought it was going to be decent but seeing the damage am glad i will be able to use anarchy maybe with a sniper rifle
I just wish xenophage had more reserves
That was a fun watch
I just started the video, but Aztecross posted yesterday that ignitions are severely bugged, so not sure how that works with dragons breath.
for the shotgun one try well with bubble with a stasis hunter to give ez frost armor stacks
Colony isnt meant to be a boss gun, its a ad clear weapon
I wonder if one gally and whatever 2 other rockets would be decent.
11:53 not that it matters that much being Black Talon for damage LMAO... But you didn't even optimize its use in the slightest. Blocking incoming damage boosts outgoing damage by 50%(I think) then you can heavy swing twice per full charge
Loved the vid though
you can very easily hit crits with levi no div so you can get like 30% extra damage on that one. but it still wont beat overture i guess.
I have to wonder what acrius or lament in a bubble+well would do. If it would even do anything.
Probably decent but theres no reason to use them. Grand overture, sleeper, levis and similar things will be always more consistent and also better dmg.
Where’s grand overture
Which had highest dps?
This was funny af 🤣 😂 Have s sub 😁👍
I missed a bunch of my shots with grand overture and I still got 6 million damage lmao.
Grand overture go boom
Blud calling the weapons meant for ad clear bad when using them for dps 🤯
Atraks is actually a female.
Ever took the time to notice how much cake shes packin in that exo bakery?
This boss has wayyy too much health for a dungeon boss, needs to be reduced
Yea it doesn’t make a lot of sense.. plus clones of itself. They should give a damage buff to the boss when you kill clones or something..
@ exactly and maybe good DR to lightning strikes
Would Zavala's scintillation be a good option to counter this Boss?
No, LFRs are extremely bad in this meta
@@warv6552except that queenbreaker did not do that badly, tbh it and salvations grip both surprised with their results. Salvation's seems like it might have finally just barely crawled out of the steaming hot ass stanky garbage pile and into the unique but quirky semi-effective weird kid choice weapon.
@@adambrown6669 Queenbreaker performed worse than microcosm. Any weapon that performs worse than Microcosm is basically never worth using for dps, considering that Micro is the easiest and most effortless damage option you can choose from. But queenbreaker isn’t supposed to be a dps exotic anyways, it’s meant for utility.
I was able to out damage two people using still hunt with 1k voices and hammer of sol. I got 6.7 mill, they got 4 mill (in 3 phases). I don’t know if that proves anything, but I’d like to share
Ignition's definitely helped there
Tbh in a 3 phase that’s not that good, teammates there man were just ass I won’t lie.
How'd u use still hunt with 1k???
@@XM8A1 youv just caught him out lying 🤣 didn’t even notice that
@@XM8A1 he is saying that he out-damaged 2 people that were using still hunt, whilst he was using 1k voices, just poor grammar lmao
I hate how overture is so overpowering. taking away my anime rotations grahhhhh.
Personally I been using choir of one and a bait n switch Gl with a lost signal with vorpal gets easy 2 phase sometimes 3 if you miss shots
3 Outbreaks = 80% dmg in 1st phase... why bother with heavies? :D
@leDevLV huh? 80%??
@@leDevLV proof or it didnt happen
Is grand overture bugged?
nope
You using the wrong Mode On Queenbreaker the lower firerate Mode is way better
3 Outbreaks = 3 damage super per 1 dmg phase = 80% dmg ... with primary... Why bother with heavies? :D
Because overture alone does literally 80% in half a phase.
Overture did get the one phase, and unlike outbreak it can work in a pinch elsewhere to quickly kill something like one of those shotgun marauders that deserve pain.
Plus outbreak does not benefit from the seasonal artifact mods, grand overture does.
You get the rapid hits and the one in the far right column in the middle row, void, arc and dark ether reaper weapons gain more damage vs stasis effected enemies.
Run any primary grenade launcher, whatever secondary weapon primary ammo thing you like and then grand overture with either the new warlock exotic chest armour and a bleak watcher turret or a duskfield grenade for other classes and just go to town.
Any ally with Well for survivability would also be a good idea.
Why tf is grand overture that good😭
It combines burst damage with consistent damage over extended time.
It's like if Xenophage occasionally fired a mini blade barrage every 20 shots.
Even if Bungie triple the damage of Colony it would still be an absolute pile of trash
Que. Using overture do you fire the rockets or only the normal firing mode?
Rockets if 20 atleast that’s what we done on contest and we cleared. If you can tell the dps is about to end just fire however many rockets you have charged
Absolutely fire the rockets, that's the cause of most of its damage, pre - load max stacks, fire those first then unload the usual shots until you can fire the rockets again, rinse and repeat until either it has no ammo or the bosses ashes have stopped twitching.
Ty
Ive just been useing le is breath
Doest even use darci correctly
Sadge
I’ve been using whisper for every run. Good consistent damage.
Dude, him using black talon triggered me
ITS 2 SLASHES , NOT 1 SLASH
JESUS CHRIST!!!!
This dude nrver used black talon in his life
basically thunderlord is still the best
Y’all are funny
Luna factions and acrius lol
Lmao with acrius
Did 6.3 with 1k
me too, but in 4 rounds.
Darci 😂😂
This video is proof of how badly Bungie has nerfed the power fantasy in this game.
I was able to get 6.2 million with Winterbite, guess you guys don’t know how to use it
How do you use it?
@@michaelferrarini1463
1st: Use Stasis Super as a massive buff for Winterbite
2nd: Equip Triton Vice (if Hunter)
3rd: If boss is long range, shoot orbs in rapid succession
4th: If boss is close range, use the melee with ammo
I have various builds on Winterbite on my channel if you’re interested/need clarification
@@Echo0ft1cuuyeah also don’t melee if no ammo that too
@@Echo0ft1cuu appreciate the info and cool channel. Love using off brand stuff and surprising my fire team
@@michaelferrarini1463 thanks man! Winterbite is one of my favorite exotics, and I’ve noticed lots of TH-camrss that test dps of weapons, don’t know how Winterbite works and proceed to make fun of it. Which is why I made those build vids
Disliked for no summary
my best dps was around 7.7 million for whole encounter celestial hunter with still hunt and scintillation with rewind/baitand switch. this is across all characters trying different builds.
You guys didn’t try choir of one
Not heavy