Thanks for watching my top 10 indoor cycling video. Interested in the t-shirt? You can buy it here: cottonbureau.com/p/76ZF8R/shirt/stuck-indoors-riding-trainers#/19382911/tee-men-standard-tee-vintage-black-tri-blend-s Correction: ROUVY no longer offer the ability to run on their platform.
If MyWhoosh is struggling to keep a user base right now, it’s because there are so many bugs in their app. I tried it for a week but, went back to another app for reliability. My training is too important to me to mess around with an app that works well part of the time. I have no doubt it will be great once they’ve worked out the kinks.
Great video, very informative. I use and like Wahoo SYSTM, the scenes and first-person peloton race videos are great, but they really need to up their AI/ adaptive features during a training plan. Currently there is no such feature. It’d be a shame if the only app with real scenery & first-person peloton views does not keep up with innovation and becomes obsolete
I always appreciate your cycling app overview videos, so I get an update on what’s new. However, I would separate the training focused apps (TrainerRoad, SYSTM and Xert) from the other apps. To compare TrainerRoad and Zwift doesn’t make much sense - two different worlds. In fact depending on how my season is going, I switch between training plans from SYSTM, TrainerRoad and Xert. Similar to you I always run in parallel Zwift or Fulgaz (in case I want to check out a route I am planning for my holidays). Thanks 🙏 and Happy New Year 🎉
Appreciate your feedback and I agree on the feature comparison between training focused apps vs virtual worlds type apps. I thought about making it a two part series. Something to consider for next year. Thanks for watching and happy New Year to you too!
@@SmartBikeTrainers - i would have to agree with OG comment, i only use Garmin connect and considering to "upgrade", but it can get confusing what features are available in the world of apps
Awesome review, Tariq. Thank you. The new workout AI generation feature in Xert is a pretty cool feautre in the space, something no other system does. We're adding more capabilities around it as well. It's a key part of an optimized training plan.
Thanks for the comparison(?)/review to these apps. I am just getting back into cycling - or more correctly just "into" as it has been so many years! I am a 75 year old retiree that spent too much time on airplanes and behind laptop screens without much exercise for way too long. I tend to use the trainer differently than most as it is most used in Summer as I live in Florida and it is HOT and HUMID as well as the cycling on roads is really a little sketchy with much traffic and very narrow bike lanes. I currently use Swift as it came with the trainer but will most likely change as the subscription expires. My personal issue on most I have seen is I am not interested in racing or social activities. I am only interested in finding training programs the will help me with weight loss, health and endurance. I only use cycling to get out in nature and with to do some bike packing once my leg strength and aerobics are better. Your overview was insightful and educational and will look forward to seeing more as things progress. Thanks again!
The avatar on my zwift app stopped moving once I updated the swift app and the wahoo kickr core firmware update. So I will have to try a different App. Thank you for this detailed analysis!
Hi, thx for the video. How do you export a sesión training from trainerroad to swift? I have both apps, but I consider the TR plan are more effective and zwift more interactive and enjoy.
TrainerRoad doesn’t support exporting their indoor workouts outside of their platform. When I use both platforms to workout, I generally have trainer road on my iPad and controlling the trainer and Zwift on my PC and paired to my trainer as power only.
Hi Tariq. Great video. I was curious how you are able to run TrainerRoad and Zwift concurrently. There are several forums that exist but I would like your take. My smart trainer is the Zwift Hub classic. It has BLE and Ant+. could I run a synced TR program on my 530 edge connected via ANT+ and then connect Zwift to my iPad via BLE but making sure the Hub is controlled by Garmin and not Zwift? you have loads of experience so any input would be appreciated. Cheers and thanks.
Basically you need to connect your HUB to TR as controllable and only as power to Zwift. Since the HUB has one Bluetooth channel, then you have to use ANT+ connection along with Bluetooth. What you proposed with the HUB connected to the Edge 530 via ANT+ and Zwift on the iPad should work. Just make sure to connect the HUB as power and cadence only to Zwift.
Thank you Tariq as always for your videos. I have missed that you mention which programs are compatible with ANT+ or not. For the rest, as always, very clear and concise. Thank you! :)
Happy you found the video helpful. As far as ANT+ compatibility, all apps mentioned that runs on a PC or MacOS are compatible with ANT+. You just need to have the ANT+ key connected to your PC to connect. Hope that helps!
Thanks for best information ever in cycling applications but still Zwift is the most reliable and efficient application I try MyWhoosh I think still needs some work to improve. Thanks coach I appreciate your efforts ❤
Thanks for the vid.. very informative. however, I am very surprised that you have made no mention of Garmin Tacx. This must be one of the best virtual riding apps available.
How about Garmin indoor cycling and tacx? I heard that all the contents of tacx will be transferred to garmin app. Will it be helpful for garmin to be more competitive compared to other apps?
👏👏 .. you are right regarding mywoosh, I tried to download on my not so old laptop and i couldnt do it.. didnt meet requirement, it crashed on my Nokia tablet.. finally i was able to run it on my mobile,
my problem with the app is when doing training plan, it kicks you out from the app. You lose all the progress and have to start it over. It's very frustrating if your training is 1.5h to 2h and it kicks you out just 15min before the end. Otherwise it's a good looking app.
As someone who is new to cycling, I find it frustrating to figure out which apps will actually cater to my ignorance. I just watched your video after battling through Wahoo systm and trying to get everything synced up - I was incredibly frustrated at the opaqueness of how to get everything up and running smoothly. Calling it beginner friendly wasn’t my experience. 😅
You are absolutely right. I somehow missed that little detail and got too distracted with their new interface. Appreciate you bringing this up. Thank you!
You can setup a private event such as a race or just a group ride and invite others to join you. You can also just ride with friends which you can find in the main menu when you login.
Another great video, Tariq!!! 👏👏👏 There was a lot of great information here. I have been a Zwifter for several years. But more and more I find myself thinking that I would enjoy platforms that allow me to virtially ride real roads around the world more. Certainly, hopping on a plane to travel to all these incredible riding locations is often not convenient and very unaffordable! Also, as Zwift has grown it has ironically become less "friendly", in my experience. Just yesterday, I rode the Surrey Hills route in London. I gave every rider that I passed, or passed me, a ride on. But I did not get a single Ride On in return. 🤦 That would never have happened when I first joined the platform. 🤷♂️
I find ride on’s to be hit or miss in Zwift. I generally give a lot more ride ons if I have the Zwift Play setup or the companion app open. If not, there isn’t an easy way to give ride ons so I’m guilty for not giving ride ons back sometimes 😬
@@SmartBikeTrainers Understood. 👍 I have an Apple TV so always have the Companion App open and ready to share the love ♥️with Rides Ons. BTW, a lot of those Rides Ons I gave yesterday were to folks also using the Companion App (they had a cell phone icon next to their name). Not that I am losing any sleep over this. Just sharing an observation that I find interesting which also motivates me to consider experimenting with other platforms. Keep up the great work!!!
Thanks for watching my top 10 indoor cycling video.
Interested in the t-shirt? You can buy it here: cottonbureau.com/p/76ZF8R/shirt/stuck-indoors-riding-trainers#/19382911/tee-men-standard-tee-vintage-black-tri-blend-s
Correction: ROUVY no longer offer the ability to run on their platform.
i was doing only zone2 trainings on my setup with a polar app just for heart rate. is there any reason for me to start using any of these apps?
If MyWhoosh is struggling to keep a user base right now, it’s because there are so many bugs in their app. I tried it for a week but, went back to another app for reliability. My training is too important to me to mess around with an app that works well part of the time. I have no doubt it will be great once they’ve worked out the kinks.
absolutely agree ! i was on the version 3.5.4 and after the update to 3.6 the app crash and not working. I don't know what to do.
It also does not work with on wheel smart trainers.
Same
Great video, very informative. I use and like Wahoo SYSTM, the scenes and first-person peloton race videos are great, but they really need to up their AI/ adaptive features during a training plan. Currently there is no such feature. It’d be a shame if the only app with real scenery & first-person peloton views does not keep up with innovation and becomes obsolete
I always appreciate your cycling app overview videos, so I get an update on what’s new. However, I would separate the training focused apps (TrainerRoad, SYSTM and Xert) from the other apps. To compare TrainerRoad and Zwift doesn’t make much sense - two different worlds. In fact depending on how my season is going, I switch between training plans from SYSTM, TrainerRoad and Xert. Similar to you I always run in parallel Zwift or Fulgaz (in case I want to check out a route I am planning for my holidays). Thanks 🙏 and Happy New Year 🎉
Appreciate your feedback and I agree on the feature comparison between training focused apps vs virtual worlds type apps. I thought about making it a two part series. Something to consider for next year. Thanks for watching and happy New Year to you too!
@@SmartBikeTrainers - i would have to agree with OG comment, i only use Garmin connect and considering to "upgrade", but it can get confusing what features are available in the world of apps
Awesome review, Tariq. Thank you. The new workout AI generation feature in Xert is a pretty cool feautre in the space, something no other system does. We're adding more capabilities around it as well. It's a key part of an optimized training plan.
Thanks for the comparison(?)/review to these apps. I am just getting back into cycling - or more correctly just "into" as it has been so many years! I am a 75 year old retiree that spent too much time on airplanes and behind laptop screens without much exercise for way too long. I tend to use the trainer differently than most as it is most used in Summer as I live in Florida and it is HOT and HUMID as well as the cycling on roads is really a little sketchy with much traffic and very narrow bike lanes. I currently use Swift as it came with the trainer but will most likely change as the subscription expires. My personal issue on most I have seen is I am not interested in racing or social activities. I am only interested in finding training programs the will help me with weight loss, health and endurance. I only use cycling to get out in nature and with to do some bike packing once my leg strength and aerobics are better. Your overview was insightful and educational and will look forward to seeing more as things progress. Thanks again!
The avatar on my zwift app stopped moving once I updated the swift app and the wahoo kickr core firmware update. So I will have to try a different App. Thank you for this detailed analysis!
Thanks. Any idea if workouts can be pushed to a wahoo device?
Just invested in a new Tacx neo 2t smart trainier,so I’m new to training apps and this review is excellent for me starting out…Thank you 🙏🏻
That’s an awesome trainer. Enjoy 👍
Hi, thx for the video. How do you export a sesión training from trainerroad to swift? I have both apps, but I consider the TR plan are more effective and zwift more interactive and enjoy.
TrainerRoad doesn’t support exporting their indoor workouts outside of their platform. When I use both platforms to workout, I generally have trainer road on my iPad and controlling the trainer and Zwift on my PC and paired to my trainer as power only.
How do you change the angle of camera in Rouvy?? I have only one
Hi Tariq. Great video. I was curious how you are able to run TrainerRoad and Zwift concurrently. There are several forums that exist but I would like your take. My smart trainer is the Zwift Hub classic. It has BLE and Ant+. could I run a synced TR program on my 530 edge connected via ANT+ and then connect Zwift to my iPad via BLE but making sure the Hub is controlled by Garmin and not Zwift? you have loads of experience so any input would be appreciated. Cheers and thanks.
Basically you need to connect your HUB to TR as controllable and only as power to Zwift. Since the HUB has one Bluetooth channel, then you have to use ANT+ connection along with Bluetooth. What you proposed with the HUB connected to the Edge 530 via ANT+ and Zwift on the iPad should work. Just make sure to connect the HUB as power and cadence only to Zwift.
Thank you Tariq as always for your videos. I have missed that you mention which programs are compatible with ANT+ or not.
For the rest, as always, very clear and concise. Thank you! :)
Happy you found the video helpful. As far as ANT+ compatibility, all apps mentioned that runs on a PC or MacOS are compatible with ANT+. You just need to have the ANT+ key connected to your PC to connect. Hope that helps!
Thanks for best information ever in cycling applications but still Zwift is the most reliable and efficient application I try MyWhoosh I think still needs some work to improve.
Thanks coach I appreciate your efforts ❤
Glad you found the video informative. Appreciate your support 🙏🏼
Thanks for the vid.. very informative. however, I am very surprised that you have made no mention of Garmin Tacx. This must be one of the best virtual riding apps available.
It’s only compatible with Tacx trainers. That limitation disqualifies the majority of riders out there from using it.
I have just purchased a new smart trainer ,so I’m new to the virtual training world..this is an excellent review for me…many thanks 🙏🏻
Awesome… hope you find it useful. Enjoy your new bike trainer!
I might go a head with your suggestion thanks 🙏🏻@@ctj42
Great video what about doing a comparison on the companion app
Not sure I understand. Like overview with apps that have a companion app?
Rouvy ended their running platform quite some time ago as they wanted to focus on improving the cycling side of the platform.
That’s correct. That was an oversight on my part. I updated my pinned comment with the correction. Thanks 🙏🏼
How about Garmin indoor cycling and tacx? I heard that all the contents of tacx will be transferred to garmin app. Will it be helpful for garmin to be more competitive compared to other apps?
Garmin Tacx is limited to Tacx trainers only
Pity zwift has a 38% price hike in June 24.
I agree, it's ridiculous the percentage of the increasing in price. Dropped them.
👏👏 .. you are right regarding mywoosh, I tried to download on my not so old laptop and i couldnt do it.. didnt meet requirement, it crashed on my Nokia tablet.. finally i was able to run it on my mobile,
Glad you figured it out. They gotta do something about that. People aren’t going to spend time troubleshooting to download an app.
my problem with the app is when doing training plan, it kicks you out from the app.
You lose all the progress and have to start it over. It's very frustrating if your training is 1.5h to 2h and it kicks you out just 15min before the end. Otherwise it's a good looking app.
❤ Great list, love the video!
Glad you enjoyed the video. Thank you 🙏🏼
Looking for an app that will simulate my daily ride or area, just bought a new smart bike.
What is your opinion on the application from the company Elite, which manufactures smart trainers and has its own My E-training application?
I find it to be difficult to use and the UI needs improvement. Also, it only works with Elite bike trainers.
Fulgaz has a lot of real world riding, really good if you want to be immerse in a real roads around the world 😮
Excellent, thanks for the rundown
You are welcome!
Very helpful. Thanks!
You are welcome 🙏🏼
OMG i neeeded whooosh. i barely used any online feature lol
Great video.
As someone who is new to cycling, I find it frustrating to figure out which apps will actually cater to my ignorance. I just watched your video after battling through Wahoo systm and trying to get everything synced up - I was incredibly frustrated at the opaqueness of how to get everything up and running smoothly. Calling it beginner friendly wasn’t my experience. 😅
I thought Rouvy running had been a beta feature thst was discontinued. Did they bring it back?
You are absolutely right. I somehow missed that little detail and got too distracted with their new interface. Appreciate you bringing this up. Thank you!
Do you know an app that allows me to cycle with one player one vs one ?
You can do that in Zwift
@ I have zwift how can I do that on zwift ?
You can setup a private event such as a race or just a group ride and invite others to join you. You can also just ride with friends which you can find in the main menu when you login.
Great video!! :)
Thank you 🙏🏼
what‘s about Tacx?
Is there any app that you can ride custom gps routes for free?
Optimize?
Trainingpeaks ??
indieVelo looks just like a branch of zwift:)
Whatever happened to Virtupro? The graphics and physics seemed very promising. Seems DOA
It's very buggy and the tech support is almost non-existent. Look up GTA Bike.
I think Rouvy does not offer the run option anymore
That’s correct. That was an oversight on my part. I updated my pinned comment with the correction. Thanks 🙏🏼
Well it sure as shit isn’t GCN or GCN+ thanks to Warner Discovery.
Xert sounds good 4W/kg here I come
You got this 👍👍
Another great video, Tariq!!! 👏👏👏 There was a lot of great information here. I have been a Zwifter for several years. But more and more I find myself thinking that I would enjoy platforms that allow me to virtially ride real roads around the world more. Certainly, hopping on a plane to travel to all these incredible riding locations is often not convenient and very unaffordable! Also, as Zwift has grown it has ironically become less "friendly", in my experience. Just yesterday, I rode the Surrey Hills route in London. I gave every rider that I passed, or passed me, a ride on. But I did not get a single Ride On in return. 🤦 That would never have happened when I first joined the platform. 🤷♂️
I find ride on’s to be hit or miss in Zwift. I generally give a lot more ride ons if I have the Zwift Play setup or the companion app open. If not, there isn’t an easy way to give ride ons so I’m guilty for not giving ride ons back sometimes 😬
@@SmartBikeTrainers Understood. 👍 I have an Apple TV so always have the Companion App open and ready to share the love ♥️with Rides Ons. BTW, a lot of those Rides Ons I gave yesterday were to folks also using the Companion App (they had a cell phone icon next to their name). Not that I am losing any sleep over this. Just sharing an observation that I find interesting which also motivates me to consider experimenting with other platforms. Keep up the great work!!!
A lot of these apps need to stop copying zwifts UI, it's dreadful
In my eyes, the SYSTM videos tend to be extremely cringeworthy. They remind me of the horrible motivational posters from the nineties.
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Whatever happened to Virtupro? The graphics and physics seemed very promising. Seems DOA
They are still in beta and haven’t seen much progress on that front 🤷🏻♂️