As an autistic bisexual whose special interest is vampires, this is my favourite video essay I’ve ever watched, thank you for bringing this into existence I adore this video.
thank u!! that means a lot to me since i‘ve given myself a hyperfix while researching and the vampire lovers have been nothing but nice and welcoming 🧛🏻♀️❤️
@@TinyGhosty it really is, that‘s why i didn‘t mention it in the vid - carmilla is WAY MORE important and formative to the lesbian vampire trope, and lesbians get stolen from enough
This summer I decided to watch every vampire movie ever created, and I was talking with my research advisor about it... I mentioned how many lesbians exist in vampire movies, especially in the 1960s/70s, and he explained that at the time being a lesbian was considered viral, something you could become ill with, so it was exploited in horror films about catching vampirism (lesbians being equally as terrifying as sanguine creatures).
yes, being a lesbian has been other’ed and portrayed as a threat quite often! as far as i remember jessica kellgren-fozard discusses that in the video i put in the extras playlist in the description! would you mind sharing your research question/hypothesis?? cause i think that’s very interesting!!
To be honest I think its more just that Carmilla gave film makers a 'literary' excuse for making exploitation films. British censors put a stop to Hammer portraying Lesbian relationships in their Carmilla sequels the moment the films stopped being adaptations. You only really find a lot of them if you go to every European country looking for them. There are a lot of Lesbian coded characters who are 'vampiric' in a more metaphorical sense that fit the demonisation explanation but sometimes it seems Lesbian Vampires get to be more sympathetic than living ones. 'The Hunger' is an 80s film and has a much clearer infectious lesbianism angle than the Carmilla novella or most of the adaptations (I haven't seen the Italian ones which is most of them).
as a bisexual who loves vampires, interview with the vampire and what we do in the shadows specifically, and is also a big fan of my chemical romance, AND had to suffer through one of my best friends having a twilight phase as a teen; this video is all i could've ever hoped for
Omg are you in my brain bc same!!! I loved dressing up as a Vampire for Halloween when I was really young, I grew up watching IWTV from 8 yo, got into MyChem, Twilight, True Blood and other vampire series around 12-13. I was also obsessed with Evanescence at 8 (Ty daredevil soundtrack). Nowwww WWDITS is one of my favorite shows/movies! My boyfriend and I are huge WWDITS fans.
asked my bisexual boyfriend how he felt about vampires and he said 'theyre ok'... i feel betrayed, its like i dont even know him anymore.. a bisexual who's neutral about vampires.... such a thing can exist..??
@@skunkskiestink6620 honestly that might be the case, reminds me of the meme about the illusion of free choice between vamps and pirates where both lead to being bi
My bisexual exgf didn't like vampires either....except twilight (which I as a true vampire fanatic or fetishist absolutely hate) but then she went full lesbian (who dates studs who look like thugs she wanted to fight me) she hated my interest in the occult and voodoo (even accused me putting a hex on her before we went no contact....she also hated my braids.
a few weeks ago a friend was showing me a set of pride themed Tarot cards, the kings and queens of each suit in medieval outfits with pride flags, i jokingly asked "Is there a bisexual queen, and why is she a vampire?" my friend flipped through the cards and showed me the queen of wands, bi-flag banner, pale and slim with long dark hair and red lipstick in an outfit straight from a christopher lee movie. got a good laugh at the time, got a great answer today. thanks. the emo stuff was new to me, and it was great to hear an eastern european take on western vampire lore. hope to see more videos soon.
One of my favourite things about bi people and vampires is that the first time (or one of the first times) the word 'bisexual' was used in a video game was in 2001, in metal gear solid 2: sons of liberty. In the game, Solid Snake is describing a man that is pale, imortal, has great speed and reflexes and drinks blood, the man in question is called Vamp. Because he's a vampire, right? No, its because he's bi. I find it amazing that the first time someone was explictely called bisexual in a video game, the guy was a vampire and in the most bisexual game franchise I've ever played.
Incredible video! Im queer and neurodivergent, and the otherness of monsterous characters has always really connected with me. The inherent queerness of vampires as well as the monsterous apects and general otherness is a part of the reason for this, and i really feel like the target audience here. This whole video was just so interesting, also happy pride
thank u for the kind words! and yesss, heavy on nd signifiers being portrayed as monstrous (i'm nd myself and while reading about how count drac was a freak for obsessively learning english about traditions i was like HUH?) happy pride!
Thank you for mentioning Polidori, I feel like he's often overshadowed by Stoker. I would like to add two more works to the early queer vampire lore. Christabel by Samuel Taylor Coleridge is an unfinished poem about some kind of demonic woman who seduces another woman. Since it's unfinished, it's unclear if she is a vampire, but Carmilla (Christabel being often called inspiration for it) is explicitly about lesbian vampire. Both were published before Dracula, Christabel even before The Vampyre! Byron knew Coleridge, having visited him and Wordsworth when there were living together in Lake District. Highly recommend reading both Christabel and Carmilla, they're very similar, I feel like Carmilla is what Christabel would look like if Coleridge had finished his poem. Gothic, erotic and also pretty gay 🖤🦇
yesss, carmilla is very important, but i kinda group it with the lesbian vampire trope and only mention it at the end :) thank u for laying it all out so eloquently and clearly!
I subscribe to the theory that Carmilla was an attempt to provide an ending to Christabel but the ending of Christabel implies that Geraldine just used the eponymous heroine to gain access to her dad so I'm not sure she counts as a Lesbian Vampire. Le Fanu doesn't use any of the plot elements set up but not employed in Christabel he just reworks the basic premise. But I'm a mostly straight guy trying to write a Christabel adaptation in spite of thinking animated mummies and skeletons are cooler than vampires so what do I know.
@@AC-dk4fp hi! yes, this is a very valid take, and i’ve seen u comment other interesting points :) what i meant with the comment was that the influence and legacy contributed more to the lesbian vamp trope (imo) than to what i’m discussing in this particular video
I can't believe how hard it was to find your video after stumbling upon your Tiktok about it, what a shame! It was amazing, you deserve a lot more visibility (anyway you gained at least one subscriber today, great video!)
I got it suggested. Your searching it out and commenting did it. The system worked! This video fell into the lap of a vampire loving bisexual. I have actually done the math of how many people a vampire needs to eat to stay healthy and everything. (Basically, at least 3 people a day, but they'll like to eat more than the bare minimum.)
@@wareforcoin5780 yes, youtube started recommending the video after it got traction from people on tiktok :) could u elaborte on the math? that sounds interesting!
@@shashatainment I'm so glad you asked. Basically, vampires came from humans, so their need to continuously feed would be the same as _our_ continuous need to feed. The average human has around 10 pints of blood. However, the average human stomach can hold about a quart of liquid. That's roughly half a pint. I'm assuming a vampire can only drink fresh blood, and _isn't_ keeping a pantry of victims, and probably has spit with anti-coagulation as a feature. (By the way, you can lose about 14% of your blood before it becomes an issue.) The initial feeding won't kill you, the being left to bleed out _will._ 3+ meals a day base line to keep healthy, plus snacks will be at _least_ 3 people a day. This is why they're such a problem and have to go, because small Romanian villages don't have the population to support a vampire.
@@wareforcoin5780 oh, thank u for elaborating! it’s such an interesting though which can be applied to different vampire canons and that will give us different outcomes, as well as factoring in the enhanced features like physical abilities which would probably require more than an average human
This is like the 8th video essay I've seen on bisexual vampires and I'm very much here for it and I'm proud of myself for having a TH-cam algorithm that knows I would like s*** like this and not having to come from tik tok
Not only am I a pansexual, obsessed with vampires, but also alternative/emo. I was not expecting to be personally attacked and targeted like this 😅. Yet another excellent video! Incredibly detailed. Extra points for the MCR lore! ❤
@@wareforcoin5780 i loooove kaz and the way they do full on outfit recreations for their videos!! i wish they made a separate video about all the costumes
@@shashatainmentwe have Carmella for lesbian vampires I'll do you one better: a Sapphic vampire love story with a interracial adoption (who struggle with how their view their son as he grows, as they all struggle with human and vampire worlds) A blonde English vampire (based on Madonna) and a brunette American vampire (based on cher) and their adopted black son based on chess favorite music artist who dated Madonna......Tupac Shakur Nah for real, cher recently revealed 2pac as her favorite artist and 2pac dated Madonna who was 34 and pac was 21 (who has exhibited masculine and feminine qualities as an artist..... Shiitt imagine Pac as Blade.
1:14:31 - Superstrength, at least, has been a part of vampire lore since the original Dracula novel; I am certain that Dracula was noted as having lifted heavy boxes of dirt with remarkable ease that multiple humans together had been struggling to move. I do not currently recall if Dracula also had superspeed or not, but he might have been noted once or twice as having moved from one place to another very quickly too(I would need to reread to recall for sure). Lol But both have very definitely been a part of typical/popular vampire lore for sure ever since Anne Rice's _Vampire Chronicles_ if not even earlier than that. I could list so many other things before Twilight in which vampires have both superspeed and superstrength, among many other things.😁😁
1:13:00 as a Brazilian I feel obligated to let people know that 9/11 also lead to the death of Portugal’s portuguese. a growing issue in portuguese homes has been the fact that young kids are now adopting Brazilian Portuguese due to the videos made by TH-camr Lucas Neto. Lucas Neto is a Brazilian content creator that makes content for children, and he’s essentially a nepo brother - he only got his start on TH-cam because of his brother, Felipe Neto, one of the most well known and successful Brazilian TH-camrs of all time. And Felipe Neto only got his start on TH-cam because he wanted to bitch about Twilight. So 9/11 is now responsible for Brazilians finally paying back Portugal for years of colonialism lmao
this video should have way more likes,, the production value and research is amazing and i absolutely loved every minute, also its so telling i get things like this in my recommended all the time
🧛🏻♀️❤️! i’m waiting for it to finish airing so i can watch it at my own pace BUT the first season is so good!! absolutely loved the aspect they changed & the actors, check out the official amc podcast about it if you haven’t, a lot of cool insights!!
never have i found a video SO specifically catered to me. this was wonderful, the amount of effort you put into this was incredible, i loved every second of it
When I buried my dog a little over a decade ago I put the Dollar Store vampire cape on him because I had heard that Bela Lugosi was buried in his Dracula outfit probably the best outfit that actor had he had fallen on Hard Times about the same time he worked for Ed Wood on that Glenn or Glenda or was it plan nine from outer space
Потрясающее видеоэссе! Я даже не подозревала о такой любопытной связи между Полидори и Байроном, да и в целом того, насколько все взаимосвязано. Браво!!! Спасибо за сабы, мой английский пока не настолько хорош 😅
THIS IS SO INTERESTING!! All the work you put into this research was so important! I hope it reaches even more people (also, I can't wait to hear your take on the AMC's Interview with the Vampire series)
thank u!! it was very interesting to research :) regarding amc - while i was looking into the story of how the right kept getting transfered my head fr started spinning haha
I'm not bisexual(maybe? I'm questioning), but I was obsessed with vampires when I was younger. I was shocked when I saw this in my recommended and felt little called out.
2:52 WTF that’s so interesting 4:17 Lord Byron died for our kins 29:12 what a fucking mood!! 33:37 three cheers for revenge (for vampires) 1:01:34 WOOHOOO
Haha This is so true! ✋️ Fellow Bi vampire lover here. This was a fantastic essay!! 👏 Highly enjoyable and informative and I can't wait to check out your channel further. 🧛♀️🧛♂️🧛
1:39:15 - It was either that movie or 'Daughter of Dracula' (I currently forget which) that Anne Rice credits as having been the largest inspiration behind her _Vampire Chronicles_ and why she always found it weird to be thought of as a literary successor to Dracula, since she saw herself more as a literary successor to monster/vampire movies instead.😊🤭🤭💜
My heart aches every time I meet vampire lovers, because they do not know Miss Christina, a female strigoi (vampire-adjacent demon being, a regional, Romanian variant of the og umpir or however were they called) from the story bearing the same name, written by Mircea Eliade. (There are also 2 movies but... I like the novella too much lmao. I havent seen them). Like she is so cool. She also was part of my awakening but she is so cool regardless. Like she is one of the only female strigoi I have ever met in stories, even though this is a modern piece of literature- shes cannon okay? I love her
О БОЖЕ СПАСИБО ВАМ ЗА ЭТО ВИДЕО ЭТО БУКВАЛЬНО ЛУЧШАЯ ВЕЩЬ КОТОРУЮ Я СМОТРЕЛА ЗА ПОСЛЕДНЕЕ ВРЕМЯ!!!🙏🙏 Вы проспонсировали мое вхождение в вампирскую эру и я не успокоюсь пока не посмотрю каждый фильм про вампиров за последние сто лет и не прочитаю все упомянутые книги.. Кроме того благодаря видео я узнала миллион новых фактов (знанием которых теперь буду хвастать перед друзьями) и это просто жуть как интересно (связь между 9/11 и вампирскими медиа взорвала мой мозг) так что я пишу это в 5 утра потому что не смогла оторваться до самого конца СПАСИБО
I think people love the charisma the clasic Vampire has. Count Dracula was heterosexual but he speak with a calm and soft tone of voice with both boys and girls that makes you think "Is he's hitting on me or just beeing friendly?" Same with Carmilla of Styria that was strictly lesbian when she bites her maidens and Laura but could mask her preference among everyone else.
this is a valid take, especially if we consider how Othering can be used to depict the character as „exotic“ and more interesting, giving them an edge in a way :)
Anne Rices vampires were asexual. But they were seemingly bi/pan romantic in general tho. I was really upset at the asexual erasure in the IWTV amc version, but they did the swap to bi representation of them well so I ended up not as mad at the end of season 2.
idk if they can be classified as asexual if they still engage in sexual acts and feel lust, albeit in another form - anne rice practically equates biting to sex (i’m not trying to refute your point, i generally don’t know that much about ace people and don’t feel comfortable judging as someone who does not belong to the group), but they could probably be interpreted as ace, and i would looove to see ace representation on the show
Great video, but I'm kinda sad you didn't talk about Carmilla. Maybe it's because lesbian media and not a bi one, but it inspired Dracula and furthered connection 'vampires = queerness'. Also hii from another Eastern European who loves vampires
hii! yes, i didn’t go into carmilla since i consider it to be more influential when it comes to the lesbian vampire trope :) and i thought bram stoker’s life context woulf be more important for dracula!
1:16:02 there’s actually 2 books outside of the Bible Mormons read I forget the full name of the other one, it’s like chronicles and discipline or something idk
Not sure how Twilight can be said to have 'made vampires straight' outside of it being the center of a moral panic around the sexuality of women (teenagers and housewives). Its vampires were considered pretty "gay" by lots of men who had similar opinions about the characters 'not being real vampires' as the presenter of the Twilight section of this video has. The vampires are heterosexual but the fandom isn't entirely. The fragile masculine backlash against Twilight seems more influential on perspectives on vampire lore than the actual contents of the series themselves (which I'm not that familiar with). A lot of people who'd maybe watched one horror film suddenly claimed to be experts on what vampires 'should' be without having actually read any books on the subject and that's left a long legacy. Many films were made with anti-twilight intent to reclaim vampires 'for the (straight) boys' even if they were reacting to a technically heterosexual book/film series. Its kind of weird how the culture Edward the culture simultaneously sees as a stalker who corrupts young girls to romanticise abuse, a frivilous temptation that makes adult housewives fall into childish emotional displays that distract them from their motherly duties and as a chaste embodiment of toxic purity culture. No matter your fears about American sexuality there's an interpretation of Twilight you can hate on. Super speed and strength are pretty common vampire tropes in literature and role playing games going back to at least Dracula and Carmilla. Its only movies that made vampires slow and wimpy and after having watched some of the really pathetic vampires you find in low budget films the first Twilight film is a breath of fresh air in having actually formidable vampires. You can just as easily take the Underworld Franchise and say its characters are barely vampires. At least the Cullens have to constantly deal with bloodlust and the fear of the damage they can do if they lose control is narratively realised. "Sexy Male Vampire Love Interest for Straight Self Insert Heroine" has a much longer history than the 2000s paranormal Romance boom. Chelsea Quinn Yarbro's 14 volume series Saint-Germain started in 1978 and was a major trope maker for the immortal romantic hero. The author was a major convention attendee and helped popularise the legendarily terrible 'Eye of Argon' which as an important predecessor for ironic readings of My Immortal.
hi! it seems like you did not pay attention to what Anya discussed in her portion, and I'm gonna try and address your concerns: -idk what fandom has to do here, since Anya is talking about the text of the Twilight saga (in book and movie form) - the masculine backlash was to perceived femininity and the saga being framed as For Girls, not to supposed "gay" vampires, that are not really present there - the Twilight vamps are overtly straight and straight-laced overall. the "straightification" of the vampire, however, is not a fully serious title, which i thought was pretty clear. -as she mentions, if you dig deeper, you can suppose that Edward is effectively framed as gay by the narrative within the Law of Chastity -"Its kind of weird how the culture Edward simultaneously sees as a stalker who corrupts young girls to romanticise abuse [...] and as a chaste embodiment of toxic purity culture" - these are not contradictory statements, he can be both a stalker and a sexually repressed man, as is discussed in the vid's chapter -super speed and strength are not in the first echelon of vampire trope (yes, they are present in media, but they are typically overall supernatural traits, not specific to JUST vampires), and detecting someone is a vampire based on just them is silly. also, this is a joke within the context of the vid, idk why you decided to focus on that -nowhere in the chapter Anya says that Twilight was the First Book To Ever Do It , but its influence on pop culture is enormous, hence why we discuss it
@@shashatainmentThese were more comments than concerns or criticisms. 'Gay' was a descriptor being used which is still homophobic even when its as you say not about literal queerness. Actual analysis of Twilight's portrayal of sexuality was not an important part of the anti-Twilight backlash. Perceptions had more importance than the content. The "first echelon" of the vampire trope is a matter of preference. The super speed demonstration makes as much sense as a visual demonstration of power in context as any other. The point of the scene is that Edward is an exageration of the threat of male sexuality so he demonstrates his superior physical strength to show that. Pretty much every vampire trope is just generally supernatural, immortality, weakness to holiness, bound by arbitrary rules, limitations on where they can enter, even drinking blood isn't vampire specific. Folkloric vampires are basically just a subtype of Witch or ghost anyway and Dracula borrows a lot from Gaelic fairy lore. Edward's sexual repression is partly about a woman's fears of unrestrained male threat which goes beyond simple critiques of the harmful aspects of the extremes of American purity culture. The contradictory elements of the Twilight backlash could be synthesised into a whole but that's not the impression I got at the time.
@@AC-dk4fp well, yes, i don’t think misogyny and homophobia enjoyers were particularly dissecting the vampire sexuality of the series, but misogyny was definitely more prevalent in the backlash, regarless of whether the word “gay” was used as an insult by those opposed to Twilight, since when used in a “ew that’s gay” way (as a synonym for shitty) it is more often than not not referring to actual queerness. the backlash from überstraights is not what the video is dealing with. and i still have to disagree on the typical and main vampire tropes - western media discussed throughout the vid, especially that which is part of pop-culture, has pretty neat canons of what a vampire is - an un-dead who drinks blood from either animals or people, and superstrength and speed are not species-defining qualities, but everyone, of course, is entitled to their own opinion i don’t know what critiques of american purity culture you are talking about since the chapter specifically deals with mormonism (a religion that the author is a part of) and how it influences his sexual expression. i honestly have no idea where you got the “fear of unrestrained male threat” part from, but then again - it is a piece of media open to interpretation, so u can read it however u want to/deem right
@@shashatainment Its an element of Edward's sexual repression that isn't mentioned in your video. Twilight wasn't only popular with Mormons and Purity culture was a heavy feature of American life in the Bush administration. The undead-ness and supernatural nature of vampires is pretty negotiable in media. If undead means you've died and returned to a form of half-life there are tons of vampire films that openly contradict that. Turning into a bat would be more vampire specific but most Hollywood vampires can't shapeshift at all to stop the werewolves being redundant. The most prevalent vampire trope is having a scene where they call other vampire tropes inaccurate. Some people reacted to the film version of What We do in the Shadows with confusion that the vampires were parodying tropes that barely existed in media they'd actually seen.
@@AC-dk4fp well, the video does not imply twilight was popular among mormons, it highlights the influence the denomination had on the narrative and characters :) regarding tropes i think we entered the zone that is purely opinion-based so i don’t see the reason in going back and fourth on it furter
This is the perfect intersection of some of my special interests meeting my bisexuality. Special shout out to the emo section and the dissection of twilight thru a Mormon lense. I love that I was recommended this video 🧛🏳️🌈
The whole Twilight section frankly made me feel so vindicated, because I seriously cannot fathom or understand this bizarre "reclamation" and nostalgia for Twilight that has been happening. Anti-Twilight tangent aside, yes to all of this video. All of it, the outfits, the topics discussed and overall conclusions.
This video made my day!!!! thank you very much!!! i just learned about lord Byron, and got very exited abt the My chemical romance section owowo! 💞i hope you get all the recognition you deserve💞!!!
Im confused abt gender too I wish people were more open to talking about the nuance of it and the social conditions and expectations that come with labels or gender presentation
oooo i looove him! even thought of including the vampire ball / dance of the vampires (not sure what it's called in english) but this was already sooo long that i decided to look into it later!
Same. lol. But the video was very well done and interesting. Before I clicked I was totally going to mentally rant about how MCR isn't emo and Gerard/MCR wasn't exactly cishet nor queer-baiting but both fronts were covered so I'm happy. I think this is the first youtube video I've come across that discusses the nuances of emo/MCR so thoroughly and accurately.
Also there were "Buffy" and "Angel" before Twilight and I honestly believe every single character on these shows is bisexual And I think Buffy was a HUGE milestone in vampire culture as well
I mean Spike and Angel had so much chemistry and there's no straight explanation for the scene where they first met (or any scene in angel s5) And it is confirmed and considered canon that they had something going on
I’m not that far yet since my attention span today is zero lol. But so far A+ on the reference list and links in description!! Same thing for time stamps, captions, sound effects and visual aids throughout (pictures, quotes, mindmap, CREDITS ON SCREEN🎉 ect.) I also really enjoy the visuals and different sets you did for all the segments. Especially that they fit the overall video theme and the individual parts so well!! It’s such an amazing detail and makes it was more interesting to watch. Buuuuut the video overall is still done in a way that makes the video fully functional to watch as a “podcast”. Which I appreciate as an option, since I often put on hours long videos while working on other things.
Lets just say that, watching vampire movies as a young teen was quite the bisexual awakening, you can't watch movies like Interview with a vampire and not come out of it wanting to watch a hundred more times.
This was so good! I didn't even think about Jennifer's Body as a vampire story but it really is! A lot to think about there! What We Do In The Shadows really speaks to me because the queer characters aren't "good representation." They're messy. They're complicated and even outright bad people. They suck at communication. Their polycule is gross. They're embezzling and doing insurance fraud. They're bisexual idiots. They're just like me fr.
thank you :) i also like the representation in wwdits because it’s not the Oh My God This Character Is Gay type of spiel and their existense in the show and does not revolve around queerness - they’re fully fleshed out messy legends
As a bisexual vampire lover, I approve this message
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I'd love a bisexual vampire lover. ✨🤌✨
@@ruthielalastor2209 As would I 😮💨
TH-cam knows me too well. I’m not bi but I am queer and I sure do love vampires.
yayy, the algorithm worked! happy pride ❤️🧛🏻♀️
Vampire is my queen identity too
Speaking as a bisexual the short answer is Byron
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The patron saint of bisexuals
@@wareforcoin5780 he was the og
This is the third bi vamp vid I got and I feel like life is worth living now
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As an autistic bisexual whose special interest is vampires, this is my favourite video essay I’ve ever watched, thank you for bringing this into existence I adore this video.
thank u!! that means a lot to me since i‘ve given myself a hyperfix while researching and the vampire lovers have been nothing but nice and welcoming 🧛🏻♀️❤️
I am an autistic lesbian with a special interest in vampires! Carmilla is my favorite always and will always be the iconic lesbian vampire💜
@@TinyGhosty it really is, that‘s why i didn‘t mention it in the vid - carmilla is WAY MORE important and formative to the lesbian vampire trope, and lesbians get stolen from enough
This summer I decided to watch every vampire movie ever created, and I was talking with my research advisor about it... I mentioned how many lesbians exist in vampire movies, especially in the 1960s/70s, and he explained that at the time being a lesbian was considered viral, something you could become ill with, so it was exploited in horror films about catching vampirism (lesbians being equally as terrifying as sanguine creatures).
yes, being a lesbian has been other’ed and portrayed as a threat quite often! as far as i remember jessica kellgren-fozard discusses that in the video i put in the extras playlist in the description! would you mind sharing your research question/hypothesis?? cause i think that’s very interesting!!
To be honest I think its more just that Carmilla gave film makers a 'literary' excuse for making exploitation films. British censors put a stop to Hammer portraying Lesbian relationships in their Carmilla sequels the moment the films stopped being adaptations. You only really find a lot of them if you go to every European country looking for them.
There are a lot of Lesbian coded characters who are 'vampiric' in a more metaphorical sense that fit the demonisation explanation but sometimes it seems Lesbian Vampires get to be more sympathetic than living ones.
'The Hunger' is an 80s film and has a much clearer infectious lesbianism angle than the Carmilla novella or most of the adaptations (I haven't seen the Italian ones which is most of them).
as a bisexual who loves vampires, interview with the vampire and what we do in the shadows specifically, and is also a big fan of my chemical romance, AND had to suffer through one of my best friends having a twilight phase as a teen; this video is all i could've ever hoped for
hahah damn this was hand crafted for you!
@@shashatainment it really feels like it!!
Omg are you in my brain bc same!!! I loved dressing up as a Vampire for Halloween when I was really young, I grew up watching IWTV from 8 yo, got into MyChem, Twilight, True Blood and other vampire series around 12-13. I was also obsessed with Evanescence at 8 (Ty daredevil soundtrack). Nowwww WWDITS is one of my favorite shows/movies! My boyfriend and I are huge WWDITS fans.
asked my bisexual boyfriend how he felt about vampires and he said 'theyre ok'... i feel betrayed, its like i dont even know him anymore.. a bisexual who's neutral about vampires.... such a thing can exist..??
he‘s the exception that confirmes the rule i guess 😲
he probably just has some other thing you’re not thinking of instead. mine probably wouldn’t care about vampires but he’s a freak for pirates
@@skunkskiestink6620 honestly that might be the case, reminds me of the meme about the illusion of free choice between vamps and pirates where both lead to being bi
My bisexual exgf didn't like vampires either....except twilight (which I as a true vampire fanatic or fetishist absolutely hate) but then she went full lesbian (who dates studs who look like thugs she wanted to fight me) she hated my interest in the occult and voodoo (even accused me putting a hex on her before we went no contact....she also hated my braids.
He may be OOAK
Hot take: I’d rather date Armand over Edward
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Okay Daniel Molloy
As a bisexual vampire myself thank you hunny
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a few weeks ago a friend was showing me a set of pride themed Tarot cards, the kings and queens of each suit in medieval outfits with pride flags, i jokingly asked "Is there a bisexual queen, and why is she a vampire?" my friend flipped through the cards and showed me the queen of wands, bi-flag banner, pale and slim with long dark hair and red lipstick in an outfit straight from a christopher lee movie. got a good laugh at the time, got a great answer today. thanks.
the emo stuff was new to me, and it was great to hear an eastern european take on western vampire lore. hope to see more videos soon.
thank you!! 🧛🏻♀️❤️
TH-cam does know me very well. As a bisexual I do confirm that I like vampires a lot.
So, this is why Bram Stoker's Dracula was my bisexual awakening!
haha it might have been!
One of my favourite things about bi people and vampires is that the first time (or one of the first times) the word 'bisexual' was used in a video game was in 2001, in metal gear solid 2: sons of liberty.
In the game, Solid Snake is describing a man that is pale, imortal, has great speed and reflexes and drinks blood, the man in question is called Vamp. Because he's a vampire, right? No, its because he's bi.
I find it amazing that the first time someone was explictely called bisexual in a video game, the guy was a vampire and in the most bisexual game franchise I've ever played.
wow i didn’t even know about this! fun!!
Incredible video! Im queer and neurodivergent, and the otherness of monsterous characters has always really connected with me. The inherent queerness of vampires as well as the monsterous apects and general otherness is a part of the reason for this, and i really feel like the target audience here. This whole video was just so interesting, also happy pride
thank u for the kind words! and yesss, heavy on nd signifiers being portrayed as monstrous (i'm nd myself and while reading about how count drac was a freak for obsessively learning english about traditions i was like HUH?) happy pride!
Thank you for mentioning Polidori, I feel like he's often overshadowed by Stoker. I would like to add two more works to the early queer vampire lore. Christabel by Samuel Taylor Coleridge is an unfinished poem about some kind of demonic woman who seduces another woman. Since it's unfinished, it's unclear if she is a vampire, but Carmilla (Christabel being often called inspiration for it) is explicitly about lesbian vampire. Both were published before Dracula, Christabel even before The Vampyre! Byron knew Coleridge, having visited him and Wordsworth when there were living together in Lake District. Highly recommend reading both Christabel and Carmilla, they're very similar, I feel like Carmilla is what Christabel would look like if Coleridge had finished his poem. Gothic, erotic and also pretty gay 🖤🦇
yesss, carmilla is very important, but i kinda group it with the lesbian vampire trope and only mention it at the end :) thank u for laying it all out so eloquently and clearly!
I subscribe to the theory that Carmilla was an attempt to provide an ending to Christabel but the ending of Christabel implies that Geraldine just used the eponymous heroine to gain access to her dad so I'm not sure she counts as a Lesbian Vampire. Le Fanu doesn't use any of the plot elements set up but not employed in Christabel he just reworks the basic premise.
But I'm a mostly straight guy trying to write a Christabel adaptation in spite of thinking animated mummies and skeletons are cooler than vampires so what do I know.
@@AC-dk4fp hi! yes, this is a very valid take, and i’ve seen u comment other interesting points :) what i meant with the comment was that the influence and legacy contributed more to the lesbian vamp trope (imo) than to what i’m discussing in this particular video
As a bisexual whose special interest is Vampires and who has been writing Vampire novels since the 8th grade, I feel CALLED OUT
oh this is like custom tailored for u haha
finally a video essay about vampires that has good takes on mcr
I can't believe how hard it was to find your video after stumbling upon your Tiktok about it, what a shame! It was amazing, you deserve a lot more visibility (anyway you gained at least one subscriber today, great video!)
thank u, glad u liked it!! at least i reached my audience after all :)
I got it suggested. Your searching it out and commenting did it. The system worked! This video fell into the lap of a vampire loving bisexual. I have actually done the math of how many people a vampire needs to eat to stay healthy and everything. (Basically, at least 3 people a day, but they'll like to eat more than the bare minimum.)
@@wareforcoin5780 yes, youtube started recommending the video after it got traction from people on tiktok :) could u elaborte on the math? that sounds interesting!
@@shashatainment I'm so glad you asked. Basically, vampires came from humans, so their need to continuously feed would be the same as _our_ continuous need to feed. The average human has around 10 pints of blood. However, the average human stomach can hold about a quart of liquid. That's roughly half a pint. I'm assuming a vampire can only drink fresh blood, and _isn't_ keeping a pantry of victims, and probably has spit with anti-coagulation as a feature. (By the way, you can lose about 14% of your blood before it becomes an issue.) The initial feeding won't kill you, the being left to bleed out _will._ 3+ meals a day base line to keep healthy, plus snacks will be at _least_ 3 people a day. This is why they're such a problem and have to go, because small Romanian villages don't have the population to support a vampire.
@@wareforcoin5780 oh, thank u for elaborating! it’s such an interesting though which can be applied to different vampire canons and that will give us different outcomes, as well as factoring in the enhanced features like physical abilities which would probably require more than an average human
Vampires are for the bisexuals. And we all love em.
true
This is like the 8th video essay I've seen on bisexual vampires and I'm very much here for it and I'm proud of myself for having a TH-cam algorithm that knows I would like s*** like this and not having to come from tik tok
yeah youtube is the biggest gatekeeper
Not only am I a pansexual, obsessed with vampires, but also alternative/emo. I was not expecting to be personally attacked and targeted like this 😅. Yet another excellent video! Incredibly detailed. Extra points for the MCR lore! ❤
the youtube algorithm really said “now this is for U🤨🫵🏻”
i think this video was hand crafted for me. i am bisexual, i love vampires, nicole rafiee AND kaz rowe.
then it was!! i love love love all of those and i made it so...
When Kaz wears historical men's fashion 😩🤌
@@wareforcoin5780 i loooove kaz and the way they do full on outfit recreations for their videos!! i wish they made a separate video about all the costumes
I love Nicole!
I can't get enough of how you say Polidori and Frankenstein ❤❤❤
haha thank u! i was trying to not butcher polidori‘s name 🫡🫡🫡
My uber drive said once "vampires have always been fluid"
I replied..."they are what they drink)
Cher as Louis in the 80s....that's hot
i neeeeed female louis by cher !!! like make it a lesbian love story NOW !
@@shashatainmentwe have Carmella for lesbian vampires
I'll do you one better: a Sapphic vampire love story with a interracial adoption (who struggle with how their view their son as he grows, as they all struggle with human and vampire worlds)
A blonde English vampire (based on Madonna) and a brunette American vampire (based on cher) and their adopted black son based on chess favorite music artist who dated Madonna......Tupac Shakur
Nah for real, cher recently revealed 2pac as her favorite artist and 2pac dated Madonna who was 34 and pac was 21 (who has exhibited masculine and feminine qualities as an artist.....
Shiitt imagine Pac as Blade.
i feel called out, i still regreat never playing vampire the masquerade
Just came from tiktok!!! Thank you so much for this masterpiece, I'll enjoy it SO MUCH
thank uuuu for the support!! 🧛🏻♀️
As a bisexual, I love vampires.
🤝🤝🤝🧛🏻♀️
1:14:31 - Superstrength, at least, has been a part of vampire lore since the original Dracula novel; I am certain that Dracula was noted as having lifted heavy boxes of dirt with remarkable ease that multiple humans together had been struggling to move. I do not currently recall if Dracula also had superspeed or not, but he might have been noted once or twice as having moved from one place to another very quickly too(I would need to reread to recall for sure). Lol
But both have very definitely been a part of typical/popular vampire lore for sure ever since Anne Rice's _Vampire Chronicles_ if not even earlier than that. I could list so many other things before Twilight in which vampires have both superspeed and superstrength, among many other things.😁😁
Well done on the video, it's really interesting how the image of the vampire has simultaneously stayed the same and changed.
thank you! yeah, it’s interesting how we keep going back to basics, but with the additional context of the historical era
1:13:00 as a Brazilian I feel obligated to let people know that 9/11 also lead to the death of Portugal’s portuguese. a growing issue in portuguese homes has been the fact that young kids are now adopting Brazilian Portuguese due to the videos made by TH-camr Lucas Neto. Lucas Neto is a Brazilian content creator that makes content for children, and he’s essentially a nepo brother - he only got his start on TH-cam because of his brother, Felipe Neto, one of the most well known and successful Brazilian TH-camrs of all time. And Felipe Neto only got his start on TH-cam because he wanted to bitch about Twilight. So 9/11 is now responsible for Brazilians finally paying back Portugal for years of colonialism lmao
oh dammmmn letsgo brazil i guess!!
This turned out better than all of the fun vampire facts combined!! Congrats on finishing this behemoth 🎉
thank uuuu broski!! and thanks for doing the twilight section ❤️
43:29 fun fact: I used to think succubi and incubi were vampires
they are kind of close, so i’ve seen them be grouped with vampire-adjacent myths and/or predecessors
this video should have way more likes,, the production value and research is amazing and i absolutely loved every minute, also its so telling i get things like this in my recommended all the time
thank you so much for the nice words!
this video is a masterpiece, well done
thank u!
getting this video as the new season of iwtv is airing?! oh, the world is good and kind
🧛🏻♀️❤️! i’m waiting for it to finish airing so i can watch it at my own pace BUT the first season is so good!! absolutely loved the aspect they changed & the actors, check out the official amc podcast about it if you haven’t, a lot of cool insights!!
never have i found a video SO specifically catered to me. this was wonderful, the amount of effort you put into this was incredible, i loved every second of it
thank u so much :) i‘m glad it found its target audience
I love how you pronounce Polidori, its so cute 😭 anyway amazing video,can't wait for new ones❤❤❤
haha thank you! idk any italian but i tried my best
You ever stumble across content so tailored for you that you just have to watch it
well done!! and i'd watch a 3h video of you talking about vampire lore tbh.
thank you!! i got some material that didn’t make it into the script so brace for more vampire stuff! 🧛🏻♀️❤️
When I buried my dog a little over a decade ago I put the Dollar Store vampire cape on him because I had heard that Bela Lugosi was buried in his Dracula outfit probably the best outfit that actor had he had fallen on Hard Times about the same time he worked for Ed Wood on that Glenn or Glenda or was it plan nine from outer space
I'm not bi but i've always loved vampires.
As a tween i went through a phase of wanting to be a vampire as i was entering puberty.
TH-cam really said "Here's the perfect video for you, you vampire-loving bisexual emo."
the algorithm is indeed algorithming
Yeah the algorithm knows me. Queer vampires forever!!!
❤️🧛🏻♀️🧛🏻♀️🧛🏻♀️
Потрясающее видеоэссе! Я даже не подозревала о такой любопытной связи между Полидори и Байроном, да и в целом того, насколько все взаимосвязано. Браво!!!
Спасибо за сабы, мой английский пока не настолько хорош 😅
спасибо:)
I’m bisexual, a goth and one of my autistic special interests is vampires, thank you 🙏
0:55 that’s the same font they use on the cover of my my own private idaho dvd
uhhh i wish :( mine is similar but it's less intricate & free licence (name - floral capitals), but damn you got a memory for fonts! that's so cool
THIS IS SO INTERESTING!! All the work you put into this research was so important! I hope it reaches even more people (also, I can't wait to hear your take on the AMC's Interview with the Vampire series)
thank u!! it was very interesting to research :) regarding amc - while i was looking into the story of how the right kept getting transfered my head fr started spinning haha
I'm not bisexual(maybe? I'm questioning), but I was obsessed with vampires when I was younger.
I was shocked when I saw this in my recommended and felt little called out.
youtube algorithm really said FOR YOU haha
Bro gained 100 subscribers and over a thousand views in 12 hours good for you
thank u! youtube started recommending my stuff after nice ppl from tiktok showed up 🧛🏻♀️❤️
2:52 WTF that’s so interesting
4:17 Lord Byron died for our kins
29:12 what a fucking mood!!
33:37 three cheers for revenge (for vampires)
1:01:34 WOOHOOO
haha love that u mentioned three cheers without knowing it‘s gonna come up later
Bisexual here...i love vampires and werewolves...does this make me a furry? No..dont answer that
When you said bisexual vampires I immediately thought of mgs2 vamp… one of the first outspoken bisexual character in video game history…
Mcr has said theyre not emo, that they're posers, and i love them for that
yes, i literally mention that in the video, along with my reasoning for talking about them and the loose use of the word emo
@shashatainment yeah I made this comment before I got to that part in the video lol
@@Stonedandbookish i assumed that, also didn’t realise my first reply sounded that passive aggressive, didn’t mean it like that, sorry!
the algorithm knows me too well
i’m glad it does!! it seems like youtube slayed with recommending the vid to the right people haha
Haha This is so true! ✋️ Fellow Bi vampire lover here. This was a fantastic essay!! 👏 Highly enjoyable and informative and I can't wait to check out your channel further. 🧛♀️🧛♂️🧛
thank u so much for the kind words! more vamp content coming very soon cause i accidentally gave myself a vampire hyperfix haha
CONTENT FROM THE CONTENT GODS
tysmm for uploading pooks ur the best
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great video! I'M bisexual and always loved vampires, this vid was a treat!!!
thank u!
1:39:15 - It was either that movie or 'Daughter of Dracula' (I currently forget which) that Anne Rice credits as having been the largest inspiration behind her _Vampire Chronicles_ and why she always found it weird to be thought of as a literary successor to Dracula, since she saw herself more as a literary successor to monster/vampire movies instead.😊🤭🤭💜
i got so excited for Villa Fiotati simply because the big evening was in doctor who
ooo i didn’t know that! never got into doc who but damn the show really has anything and everything
Im bisexual and vampires were my sexual awakening 😂
honestly valid
My heart aches every time I meet vampire lovers, because they do not know Miss Christina, a female strigoi (vampire-adjacent demon being, a regional, Romanian variant of the og umpir or however were they called) from the story bearing the same name, written by Mircea Eliade. (There are also 2 movies but... I like the novella too much lmao. I havent seen them). Like she is so cool. She also was part of my awakening but she is so cool regardless. Like she is one of the only female strigoi I have ever met in stories, even though this is a modern piece of literature- shes cannon okay? I love her
ooo, i looved reading about all the different regional versions of vamps, so i’ll note the novel for further research! thank u for the tip 🤗
Found you from your tiktok. Hope it will reach a bigger audience 👍
the tiktok vid really helped me out! didn‘t expect it to be as effective haha
О БОЖЕ СПАСИБО ВАМ ЗА ЭТО ВИДЕО ЭТО БУКВАЛЬНО ЛУЧШАЯ ВЕЩЬ КОТОРУЮ Я СМОТРЕЛА ЗА ПОСЛЕДНЕЕ ВРЕМЯ!!!🙏🙏 Вы проспонсировали мое вхождение в вампирскую эру и я не успокоюсь пока не посмотрю каждый фильм про вампиров за последние сто лет и не прочитаю все упомянутые книги.. Кроме того благодаря видео я узнала миллион новых фактов (знанием которых теперь буду хвастать перед друзьями) и это просто жуть как интересно (связь между 9/11 и вампирскими медиа взорвала мой мозг) так что я пишу это в 5 утра потому что не смогла оторваться до самого конца СПАСИБО
ооо, спасибо большое за добрые слова!! я очень рада, что вам понравилось 🙏🏻❤️
As a bisexual vampire lover, I also approve this message. Love from Brazil.
thank u!
Thank u for Europapa mention 🙏
I think people love the charisma the clasic Vampire has. Count Dracula was heterosexual but he speak with a calm and soft tone of voice with both boys and girls that makes you think "Is he's hitting on me or just beeing friendly?" Same with Carmilla of Styria that was strictly lesbian when she bites her maidens and Laura but could mask her preference among everyone else.
this is a valid take, especially if we consider how Othering can be used to depict the character as „exotic“ and more interesting, giving them an edge in a way :)
OUUAA RUSSIAN CAPTIONS!! thank u so much!!! finally i can watch something epic w/ my fellow russian queers
буквально чуть не описалась от радости, мега-рада что есть русскоговорящие квир-эссеисты
С ПРАЙДОМ!!!!!!!
i‘m glad they‘re useful :) seeing comments like this one makes me believe i didn‘t spend the time translating the vid for nothing haha
@@rollypolly. и вас с прайдом! 🏳️🌈❤️
Anne Rices vampires were asexual. But they were seemingly bi/pan romantic in general tho.
I was really upset at the asexual erasure in the IWTV amc version, but they did the swap to bi representation of them well so I ended up not as mad at the end of season 2.
idk if they can be classified as asexual if they still engage in sexual acts and feel lust, albeit in another form - anne rice practically equates biting to sex (i’m not trying to refute your point, i generally don’t know that much about ace people and don’t feel comfortable judging as someone who does not belong to the group), but they could probably be interpreted as ace, and i would looove to see ace representation on the show
1:22:10 I follow a guy on TikTok who says they have a lot of extreme similarities to Mormon Angel lore
Great video, but I'm kinda sad you didn't talk about Carmilla. Maybe it's because lesbian media and not a bi one, but it inspired Dracula and furthered connection 'vampires = queerness'. Also hii from another Eastern European who loves vampires
hii! yes, i didn’t go into carmilla since i consider it to be more influential when it comes to the lesbian vampire trope :) and i thought bram stoker’s life context woulf be more important for dracula!
@@shashatainment Yup, I agree! It all came out nicely after all
@@yuugosvida thank you!❤️
As a Nonbinary Bisexual….yeah I love vampires
same
shocked Mikey Way didn't get a mention here in the MCR section
he didn’t have that many vampire adjacent things BUT i am a mikey way lore enjoyer
1:16:02 there’s actually 2 books outside of the Bible Mormons read
I forget the full name of the other one, it’s like chronicles and discipline or something idk
It's the Doctrine and Covenants (D&C) so you weren't too far off. There's actually also a 4th scripture called the Pearl of Great Price.
Not sure how Twilight can be said to have 'made vampires straight' outside of it being the center of a moral panic around the sexuality of women (teenagers and housewives). Its vampires were considered pretty "gay" by lots of men who had similar opinions about the characters 'not being real vampires' as the presenter of the Twilight section of this video has. The vampires are heterosexual but the fandom isn't entirely.
The fragile masculine backlash against Twilight seems more influential on perspectives on vampire lore than the actual contents of the series themselves (which I'm not that familiar with). A lot of people who'd maybe watched one horror film suddenly claimed to be experts on what vampires 'should' be without having actually read any books on the subject and that's left a long legacy. Many films were made with anti-twilight intent to reclaim vampires 'for the (straight) boys' even if they were reacting to a technically heterosexual book/film series.
Its kind of weird how the culture Edward the culture simultaneously sees as a stalker who corrupts young girls to romanticise abuse, a frivilous temptation that makes adult housewives fall into childish emotional displays that distract them from their motherly duties and as a chaste embodiment of toxic purity culture. No matter your fears about American sexuality there's an interpretation of Twilight you can hate on.
Super speed and strength are pretty common vampire tropes in literature and role playing games going back to at least Dracula and Carmilla. Its only movies that made vampires slow and wimpy and after having watched some of the really pathetic vampires you find in low budget films the first Twilight film is a breath of fresh air in having actually formidable vampires.
You can just as easily take the Underworld Franchise and say its characters are barely vampires. At least the Cullens have to constantly deal with bloodlust and the fear of the damage they can do if they lose control is narratively realised.
"Sexy Male Vampire Love Interest for Straight Self Insert Heroine" has a much longer history than the 2000s paranormal Romance boom. Chelsea Quinn Yarbro's 14 volume series Saint-Germain started in 1978 and was a major trope maker for the immortal romantic hero. The author was a major convention attendee and helped popularise the legendarily terrible 'Eye of Argon' which as an important predecessor for ironic readings of My Immortal.
hi! it seems like you did not pay attention to what Anya discussed in her portion, and I'm gonna try and address your concerns:
-idk what fandom has to do here, since Anya is talking about the text of the Twilight saga (in book and movie form) - the masculine backlash was to perceived femininity and the saga being framed as For Girls, not to supposed "gay" vampires, that are not really present there - the Twilight vamps are overtly straight and straight-laced overall. the "straightification" of the vampire, however, is not a fully serious title, which i thought was pretty clear.
-as she mentions, if you dig deeper, you can suppose that Edward is effectively framed as gay by the narrative within the Law of Chastity
-"Its kind of weird how the culture Edward simultaneously sees as a stalker who corrupts young girls to romanticise abuse [...] and as a chaste embodiment of toxic purity culture" - these are not contradictory statements, he can be both a stalker and a sexually repressed man, as is discussed in the vid's chapter
-super speed and strength are not in the first echelon of vampire trope (yes, they are present in media, but they are typically overall supernatural traits, not specific to JUST vampires), and detecting someone is a vampire based on just them is silly. also, this is a joke within the context of the vid, idk why you decided to focus on that
-nowhere in the chapter Anya says that Twilight was the First Book To Ever Do It , but its influence on pop culture is enormous, hence why we discuss it
@@shashatainmentThese were more comments than concerns or criticisms.
'Gay' was a descriptor being used which is still homophobic even when its as you say not about literal queerness. Actual analysis of Twilight's portrayal of sexuality was not an important part of the anti-Twilight backlash. Perceptions had more importance than the content.
The "first echelon" of the vampire trope is a matter of preference. The super speed demonstration makes as much sense as a visual demonstration of power in context as any other. The point of the scene is that Edward is an exageration of the threat of male sexuality so he demonstrates his superior physical strength to show that.
Pretty much every vampire trope is just generally supernatural, immortality, weakness to holiness, bound by arbitrary rules, limitations on where they can enter, even drinking blood isn't vampire specific. Folkloric vampires are basically just a subtype of Witch or ghost anyway and Dracula borrows a lot from Gaelic fairy lore.
Edward's sexual repression is partly about a woman's fears of unrestrained male threat which goes beyond simple critiques of the harmful aspects of the extremes of American purity culture. The contradictory elements of the Twilight backlash could be synthesised into a whole but that's not the impression I got at the time.
@@AC-dk4fp well, yes, i don’t think misogyny and homophobia enjoyers were particularly dissecting the vampire sexuality of the series, but misogyny was definitely more prevalent in the backlash, regarless of whether the word “gay” was used as an insult by those opposed to Twilight, since when used in a “ew that’s gay” way (as a synonym for shitty) it is more often than not not referring to actual queerness. the backlash from überstraights is not what the video is dealing with. and i still have to disagree on the typical and main vampire tropes - western media discussed throughout the vid, especially that which is part of pop-culture, has pretty neat canons of what a vampire is - an un-dead who drinks blood from either animals or people, and superstrength and speed are not species-defining qualities, but everyone, of course, is entitled to their own opinion
i don’t know what critiques of american purity culture you are talking about since the chapter specifically deals with mormonism (a religion that the author is a part of) and how it influences his sexual expression. i honestly have no idea where you got the “fear of unrestrained male threat” part from, but then again - it is a piece of media open to interpretation, so u can read it however u want to/deem right
@@shashatainment Its an element of Edward's sexual repression that isn't mentioned in your video.
Twilight wasn't only popular with Mormons and Purity culture was a heavy feature of American life in the Bush administration.
The undead-ness and supernatural nature of vampires is pretty negotiable in media. If undead means you've died and returned to a form of half-life there are tons of vampire films that openly contradict that.
Turning into a bat would be more vampire specific but most Hollywood vampires can't shapeshift at all to stop the werewolves being redundant. The most prevalent vampire trope is having a scene where they call other vampire tropes inaccurate. Some people reacted to the film version of What We do in the Shadows with confusion that the vampires were parodying tropes that barely existed in media they'd actually seen.
@@AC-dk4fp well, the video does not imply twilight was popular among mormons, it highlights the influence the denomination had on the narrative and characters :) regarding tropes i think we entered the zone that is purely opinion-based so i don’t see the reason in going back and fourth on it furter
This is the perfect intersection of some of my special interests meeting my bisexuality. Special shout out to the emo section and the dissection of twilight thru a Mormon lense. I love that I was recommended this video 🧛🏳️🌈
thank u! i‘m glad u enjoyed it :)
The whole Twilight section frankly made me feel so vindicated, because I seriously cannot fathom or understand this bizarre "reclamation" and nostalgia for Twilight that has been happening.
Anti-Twilight tangent aside, yes to all of this video. All of it, the outfits, the topics discussed and overall conclusions.
This video made my day!!!! thank you very much!!! i just learned about lord Byron, and got very exited abt the My chemical romance section owowo! 💞i hope you get all the recognition you deserve💞!!!
thanks a lot for the kind words ❤️ it means a lot that someone enjoyed my vid enough to comment smth so nice!! 🧛🏻♀️
@@shashatainment You r welcome :DDD!! I hope you have a great day too owowo💫!!!!
Lord Byron and I have the same flavor of bisexuality lol
that sounds like a threat tbh
Im bi and every pride month i celebrate but reading vampire novels especially Carmilla ❤❤
oooo fun!! love rewatching/rereading my fav queer media during pride
My comment is for the vampies and bisexualls.
🧛🏻♀️❤️🫡
Been to Byron's home of Newstead Abbey twice now. He has some interesting cups. 💀
oooh that’s so cool!! i wanna go someday
Im confused abt gender too I wish people were more open to talking about the nuance of it and the social conditions and expectations that come with labels or gender presentation
As a bisexual, it all started with count von Krolock.
oooo i looove him! even thought of including the vampire ball / dance of the vampires (not sure what it's called in english) but this was already sooo long that i decided to look into it later!
youtube knows me too well i fear
My sister is bi, but I also never feel in love so....who knows? I do love vampires, and I mostly gay.
there are lots of queer vampires of all types!! for instance, louis in the interview with the vampire show is gay :)
I’m very exited to watch this in its entirety once I find the time! -bisexual Vampire lover
thank u❤️❤️❤️🧛🏻♀️! -fellow bisexual vampire lover
I'm a bisexual.... and I wrote and published a Vampire book as a teenager, so yeah... 😅 I love Vampires.
ooo, congrats on that, that’s so cool!
me thinking that would be great to watch this video because I'm slavic and then 2:06
😂❤nice 💜 sis 💙
Gerard Way on thumbnail, i click
letsgooo finally being really into mcr as a teenager is paying off
Same. lol.
But the video was very well done and interesting. Before I clicked I was totally going to mentally rant about how MCR isn't emo and Gerard/MCR wasn't exactly cishet nor queer-baiting but both fronts were covered so I'm happy.
I think this is the first youtube video I've come across that discusses the nuances of emo/MCR so thoroughly and accurately.
@@sezzac155 i’m glad i did the topic justice :) mcr was very important to me as a teenager
Also there were "Buffy" and "Angel" before Twilight and I honestly believe every single character on these shows is bisexual
And I think Buffy was a HUGE milestone in vampire culture as well
I mean Spike and Angel had so much chemistry and there's no straight explanation for the scene where they first met (or any scene in angel s5)
And it is confirmed and considered canon that they had something going on
And Buffy invented hot vampire stalker before Twilight but cared enough to give him an Ann Rice personality and actually addressed those toxic traits
YESSS NEW VIDEO
🎉🎉🎉
Vampires are my special interest, and I love a good video essay
yay, can’t wait for your input/feedback then since im new to this! 🧛🏻♀️
I’m not that far yet since my attention span today is zero lol. But so far A+ on the reference list and links in description!! Same thing for time stamps, captions, sound effects and visual aids throughout (pictures, quotes, mindmap, CREDITS ON SCREEN🎉 ect.)
I also really enjoy the visuals and different sets you did for all the segments. Especially that they fit the overall video theme and the individual parts so well!! It’s such an amazing detail and makes it was more interesting to watch.
Buuuuut the video overall is still done in a way that makes the video fully functional to watch as a “podcast”. Which I appreciate as an option, since I often put on hours long videos while working on other things.
@@josephine2512 omg, thanks a lot for such well thought out feedback! i am really glad you are enjoying it :)
Lets just say that, watching vampire movies as a young teen was quite the bisexual awakening, you can't watch movies like Interview with a vampire and not come out of it wanting to watch a hundred more times.
Not all vampires are bisexual, but all bisexuals are vampires
according to the comments there‘s werewolf overlap as well
amazing video 😵
thanks a lot! 🧛🏻♀️❤️
Did you ever see Penny Dreadful?
Loving this video ♥️
thank you! ❤️
This was so good! I didn't even think about Jennifer's Body as a vampire story but it really is! A lot to think about there!
What We Do In The Shadows really speaks to me because the queer characters aren't "good representation." They're messy. They're complicated and even outright bad people. They suck at communication. Their polycule is gross. They're embezzling and doing insurance fraud. They're bisexual idiots. They're just like me fr.
thank you :) i also like the representation in wwdits because it’s not the Oh My God This Character Is Gay type of spiel and their existense in the show and does not revolve around queerness - they’re fully fleshed out messy legends
Great video!!!
thank u!