I agree with you on the regen, I want slight regen on with the option to increase it quickly to do my braking. The Model 3s that I have driven had max regen on and it was a jerky transition for me that reminded me of a SxS braking when you lift off the throttle.
The price is eye watering but I suspect that prices will drop as they get production rates up in the battery plant. The Bolt top trim was >$40k in 2018 and
So many people don't see this. They could eliminate $10k off the price tomorrow if they had fixed rear wheels and a solid roof and probably cut out a few hundred pounds too. LFP batteries would knock off 10% of range but could cut the pack cost by 20% too.
Commenters dont understand this truck. People are paying 90k for 1/2 ton truck that never tows. But they like to say they can tow. Thats this truck. Will you tow, maybe? But can you tow yes.
Great observation. Between Ultium bonus, dealer discount and Fleet package price offset, a 20-module battery 2024 WT3 can be had for lower than the price of 2025 14 module Wt targeting $60K
I live just north of the Oshawa plant but didn’t realize they had a testing oval. It’s not shown on Google Maps but is on Apple Maps, north east corner of Stevenson and Phillip Murray
I don’t understand this truck at all. Way too heavy and expensive. If you need to pull heavy, buy a diesel for less. Weight of a 1 ton, payload of a 1/2 ton, who can resist? Instead, why not go with a small commuter truck, Maverick sized, that can’t tow more than a utility trailer, but it costs $40k instead of 100k. I can’t see how the Silverado EV can ever be a volume seller. Thanks for the review, Steve.
The real answer is because the Liberal Democrats have invested heavily in this technology and if they don't force you to buy it with made up clean air laws then they stand to lose billions. Not millions but Billions. Pelosi and the gang can't let your ignorant ass stop them from making insane fortunes. This will all fail by the way and then you will be forced to buy back all the stuff they outlawed and it will be worse than what we have now and they will of course invest again and rape you on the back end. That is why channels like this lose all credibility. You can tell there is a gun to their heads talking about this idiocy. Because ANYONE who knows and loves trucks would take a torch to this abomination.
@@TheTiredPanda Actually, I’m all for EVs for the majority of getting around. But there’s certain tasks that they’re not yet suitable for. I just think that EV sales won’t really take off until they reach price parity with their ICE cousins. And that won’t (quickly) happen with a vehicle with a 200+ kWh battery.
They will be selling the 3wt for $75k that qualifies for the $7500 tax credit. If they make a LFP battery version with RWD i think they could easily get it under $60k before tax credit.
I think the issue with the lack of wow on the interior is that we have seen 90% of it before with Blazer EV and Traverse and Equinox EV reviews. Personally I love the screens but I get it
I obviously haven’t seen the EV but GM did a pretty good job on the current gas trucks, it’s still plastic but it’s grained nicely with some fake stitching. This thing looks super cheap from the videos
Nice truck. Saw another one today on the road. The shape reminds me of my Avalanche. Of course, 95% of usage will be for the soccer moms taking the kids to practice.
If the price was more reasonable I could see the trades using a work truck version. Being able to run your gear on site without needing a generator would be nice. As far as the RST . Having no choice but to have that enormous glass roof and giant wheels and tires. No thanks.
@@bikes7777 lol i have a portable power station with a tiny 1.6kwh capacity and it can power my fridge, freezer, sump pump, and wifi for around 10 hours. This truck has over 100x the capacity
I would hope now that they have this truck which is like our old Avalanche we owned and is now discontinued that they put a combustion engine in and sell it. I'd love to have this truck with a combustion engine or maybe make it as a hybrid like Ford has done with their F150.
I did not like the look of the front end until I saw the work truck. Not only does it look better, but the 18" wheels are a huge improvement. I'm wondering if the mid bar is removeable when you open the mid gate and remove the rear window. At 2:45 it looks like it is removed. Otherwise I don't get why you would remove the rear window. The work truck would be my choice, but at $80,000 I don't see me replacing my current truck any time soon. With how I use a truck an EV would be a viable option.
I would assume it’s the same as what was on the Avalanche back in the day, but I don’t know for sure. That one you could do: glass off mid gate up, glass on mid gate down, both down, or both up
Yes the dealership can fix it. They have to be qualified to fix it if they're going to be designated to sell them. In fact, they're the only ones who can.
*the only ones that fix them under warrantee; lots of mechanics with EV experience that can fix them in the aftermarket once the warrantee runs out. Scary prospect: some time in the future (maybe 20 years from now) there will be more mechanics trained in repairing EV’s than in repairing engines (especially with most vehicles already covered in electronics) and you will need to go see an old specialist to get your (antique) gas engine repaired.
@@TFT-bp8zk no that is not true, there are several EV repair shops that will fix any EV. The point here is that EVs are shit and you're an idiot for thinking or buying one period.
The original Telsa Model S with 85kwh battery cost $90k in 2012 dollars and had a max charge rate of 90kw. You can get a equinox ev for $42k in 2024 dollars with a 85kwh battery and can charge at 150kw. So prices will come down for EV pick up trucks too in the future.
At that price, I think the interior is good as it is. If they would have made it more fancy, you would be adding $1,000s to the price tag. It is already priced above what most people can afford.
Great and thorough review, however I'm in the "I want more buttons and less screen controls" camp. I feel the lack of sunroof cover and not-quite 6' bed are complete misses. You couldn't haul a ladder and kit in the back in the rain or snow without problems. 24" wheels means this isn't seeing offroad trips. At this price, no trailer backup assist? Sorry, just not worth it.
Recoup 100 miles of range in ten minutes of charging (if you can find a 350 kW charger). I can recoup 520 miles of range in five minutes when I fill up my gasoline truck.
@@nookbandit That is why i'm planing on buying a used one. I am starting to see F150 Lightnings for under $35k, once they drop to $25k it qualifies for the $4000 used EV tax credit.
A good fair and square review but the part that burns me is the entry level base truck is only available to the big fleet buyers not the average joe dirt that does all the living and dying in America hey GM my money is just as good as the big fleet buyers not asking for a hand out just a square deal
I mean, it definitely is by far the best electric truck, but TFL had to disconnect their trailer to charge it and that price is way too much. the range rivals a gas 1/2 ton towing, but recharging is still the same nightmare....
This thing is awesome if you ignore the weight and the price. The latter is a pretty big dealbreaker for most folks. The former is going to become a big issue once these start getting in accidents.
it's trash, it's electric. same as crack, just say no and they will be forced to build something else. It's already happening, just stay the course. Besides you could rebuild a nice OBS Chevy for half the price and have a WAAAAY better longer lasting truck.
@@magnavoxfifty Yeah don't worry I have no intention of buying something like this. Just wait until people realize what replacing a 200 kWh battery is going to cost 10 years from now. Most of these will end up in landfills long before my ICE F150 does.
@@plmn93 battery prices are falling rapidy. 10 years ago a battery cost $700/kwh today it is $150/kwh. In 2027 it is expected to drops to $100/kwh and $70/kwh by 2030
@@JD-yx7be Uh huh. Even if your best case scenario happens, that is $14,000 for this battery alone. Then you have installation and any other associated costs. Good luck.
@@plmn93 There will also be a used battery market. Used batteries fall in price in lockstep with new battery prices. You can get a scan tool to measure the health of the battery too. People are replacing their old 24kwh Leaf batteries with used healthy 30,40, or 60kwh batteries that are less than what a 24kwh battery was a few years prior. GM shares this battery platform with all their other EV vehicles too. There are rumors so i can't confirm yet that the next gen bolt will have compatible batteries and motors to the first gen. The first gens are just starting to come out of warranty, i am interested in that front too
They should have just painted the kettle black, and called it what it really is.......an avalanche. Then, they should have thrown a 3.0 LZO diesel in it and called it a day.
Why can’t manufacturers make a brake pedal with a light resistance in the regen range, then an increased resistance in the mechanical range so you can feel in the pedal when you transition but make the actual vehicle braking smooth throughout the entire range? It would be the easy compromise between one pedal driving and normal driving, where you can tell when you are at max regen while braking and thus hold it there until you need more brake power and press harder for the brake pads to kick in smoothly.
Why can't manufacturers knock off this nonsense and go back to building decent V8 trucks? Oh, that's right the rich elite Democrats have invested in the stock for EVs too heavily they will lose a fortune if they don't force you to buy this trash.
@@JD-yx7be You have to buy a 2500 or bigger, and you can't get a regular cab with a V8 without the same. Stupid. Every engine should be available in every configuration.
Imagine what the repair on the 4 wheel steering and battery packs would cost. This is a unibody “truck” as well and the glass roof would be a no go for me.
It is kind of a hybrid of uni body and body on frame. Chevy has had 4 wheel steering before on the silverado I'm sure they have made some improvements in the 2 plus decades that existed
It’s nice (especially when towing) when you are stuck merging from an off ramp with traffic that would rather let you side-swipe them (lane traffic has right of way over on-ramp merging traffic) then slow down and let you in. Niche situation for most, but still important to consider. When not dealing with traffic, a torque converter and appropriate gearing can get you all the torque you need to get moving from pretty much any situation, just spread out over a longer time as the mechanics keep adjusting to modify/increase your torque at a given speed. It’s why an old 70’s Mack truck can tow so much even at highway speeds, but takes forever to accelerate compared to the rest of traffic. Nowadays, automatics are so smooth and have so many gears that it already feels like you have instant continuous torque (at least if you aren’t comparing it to an EV).
I hate the seats in all the truck brands. I'm shocked at how clueless manufacturers have been when it comes to comfort and ergonomics. Something simple like extending the length on the seat to cover more leg area (hamstring support....?), they still have not integrated, but yet I can buy a car or SUV for a fraction of the cost and it has more comfortable seats. RAM in my opinion has the most comfortable seats just because of the length, the seat is roughly 2 to 3 inches from my knees offering a lot more support, where as Ford and GM have shorter seats. Those short seats end up putting more pressure on your lower back and especially on longer drives it becomes uncomfortable.
That’s a nice looking vehicle with many great features. Unfortunately it s priced way out of reach of normal people. Even if charging infrastructure was good, this should be around $60,000 to be competitive with F150 XLT 4x4 in Atlanta market. Lack of charging should mean it should be really selling no more than $50,000. Who is going to buy this?
Charging infrastructure is growing every day with new charger installs or upgrades to existing ones. Battery prices are also falling in 2018 it was $275/kwh, today it is $150/kwh. It is expected to fall to under $130 next year and drop under $100/kwh in 2027
All the extra features being built into trucks is the issue with price. Unless the prices come down significantly and charging speed is increased electric will never become a normal. To even say a 100k truck will become widespread is plain stupid, the average person will never afford this.
They put in all the extra features because they are cheap to put in, and most people like the features. The big cost on this truck is the 200kwh battery. The retail on that alone is going to be at least $30,000 to $50,000. Making the battery safe for fast charging and protected for road use (as opposed to a stationary battery) adds even more.
At $96k it’s a complete dud. Look at the size of the domestic EV market. Now scale it back to just the EV truck market. Now segment that into Tesla, Rivian, Ford and GM fans. Congratulations on selling 3 units per year, GM. Good work!
Has to start somewhere, these are basically the worst they will ever be. I remember the nissan leaf was $38k in 2011 dollars and 80 miles range, now it is $29k with 140 miles range in 2024 dollars with double the charging speed and 50 more hp. The next gen is launching in march 2025 and is expected to have 230 miles range and another another 50% increase in charging speed and a hp boost.
Makes me want to hold onto my Ram 1500 Tradesman Hemi even more. Was $32k brand new in 2020 and paid it off early. Simple enough to mod and maintain with enough power for what I need and decent mpg and almost 600 mile range.
Ram is coming out with the ramcharger with 600hp and over 600 miles range. It is a series hybrid like a freight train. It can also act as a backup generator for your house.
I'm not an EV enthusiasts or anything like that, but I do understand reality and the engineering and construction of an electric truck is of course superior to a ICE truck...The only issue is how it gets power...Battery technology is really not where it needs to be yet to make electric vehicles a no brainer...I actually really like that Silverado and have caught some flak for embracing it...But as a former Navy mechanic, I really don't care who gives me flak about it because the advantages from a wrench head standpoint is clear and obvious...But I would not have an electric vehicle as my only daily now or ever...It will only be a support or backup 2nd vehicle...So far it looks like GM has learned from the electrical issues from their Hummer EV and made the correction in this Silverado so that it wouldn't leave you stranded with zero power...That's my biggest issue, even though there is a process to get it back up again that the owner can do in just a few minutes, but it should never have to come to that...I can see myself in fantasy land owning one of those Silverados to sit next to my tried and trusty 2016 Buick Enclave ICE vehicle which is my number one driver...
EV is trash. They don't go far, takes to long to recharge, the battery life is about 10 years then you throw away your vehical. I can't name 1 positive for EV over Fuel!
***** Rented this truck for 9 days and the screen blackout and the AC gave out due to a HIGH VOLTAGE CHARGE which was prompt on the screen. I had no AC on a hot day while it was raining. I was in Texas when this all happened ***** Save your money until it’s fixed
@@Cloud30000 neither will this after like six miles the battery will be dead and you'll be waiting hours to recharge only to do it all over again in twenty minutes.
a great calm peaceful towing experience while you wait for it to charge for 45 minutes every 200 miles. Tow an RV around the country then tell me how great it is.
Yeah not to mention the fact that you would be pushing the standard license towing weight limit depending on the weight you are pulling and state you live in almost purely because of the whopping 9k pound truck. Like in California for instance you wouldn’t be able to pull more than a thousand pounds without needing some sort of endorsement or special acceptance on your license to drive a vehicle and trailer over 10k pounds gvwr. With electric trucks weighing this much and have 200 miles or less of range there is no way it’s actually realistic for most people to do any real towing with one.
I just pulled my bass boat over a 1000 miles round trip, I can’t imagine the amount of time I would have wasted while charging, finding charging stations on my direct route thru southern Illinois,Kentucky and Tennessee or finding someone to fix it if something happened.
@@ALMX5DP this is the problem....a lot of people don't buy a 1/2 ton really expecting to tow....they just end up going to an RV show one day and go home with a travel trailer. Of course, I'm not speaking from experience at all...hahaah. Point is, when buying a truck always buy more than you think you need.
Only thing cool about this "truck" is they brought back the midgate from the Avalanche. Should offer this as an option in the regular Silverado instead of this ridiculously overpriced EV.😊
I find it ironic that you use taking soy as an insult, but then admit to knowing details on the appropriate soy supplement level. I also think you are on the wrong channel and no one understands your “witty dis”
If it follows the same trend as the Nissan Leaf it will be pretty close if you adjust for inflation. The 2011 nissan leaf cost $38k and had 80 miles range, the 2024 Leaf cost $29k with a ton of inflation from a few years prior and 140 miles range.
@@JD-yx7be 80 miles? are you mad? I can get a gas powered go cart to go farther. DO you know why the Nissan leaf is so cheap? NO ONE WANTS IT. The poor sure as heck aren't going to want it or will buy it. You can't repair them either, it is total part replacement and those parts out very expensive.
@@magnavoxfifty yes, that is why the deprecation was bad on them so you can pick one up for a few grand and replace the battery with either a 30, 40, 60kwh battery from a wrecked Leaf with a healthy battery. You can do the same with the older Model S people replacing the 200 mile 60kwh pack with a 300 mile 90kwh pack
You know they tried electric vehicles 80 - 90 years ago you know what they did not have the demand. Guess GM has not learned any lessons from Ford F-150 EV. At $100k they are never selling these to anybody but, people in the city like me. Tell you what I am not buying any EV truck or car give me a GM diesel powered 2500 with max tow for my $100k. GM needs to send these EV trucks straight to the car crusher.
Can you imagine the price down the road for batteries. Recently, someone I know was quoted 62k for replacing batteries on a 2009 ford hybrid. Thats a hybrid, imagine a full EV.
IMO the only way EV trucks make sense for normal is if they increase the battery warranty significantly. 100k truck with a battery warranty of only 8 years or 100k miles. Most people will be scared to own one of these outside of warranty. Which means resale is going to be horrible. Who can afford to gamble 50k on a 4-5 year old truck with 101k miles on it? Lets be realistic. EVs currently are throw away vehicles. Meaning when the battery goes, repair/replacement costs more than the vehicle is worth. Ironic that they push them as green. Lots of older vehicles still on the road with their second or third engine. Almost no one is going to be willing to put a 30-40k battery into a 5 year old truck that's worth maybe 50k. Worse, Imagine buying a used one and owing 30k on it only to be told it needs a 30k repair to be usable. The warranty needs to be better. At least 160k miles 12 years
You can put a used engine in a used truck, why not a used battery in a used ev. Diagnostic tools can measure the battery health. Some people have already replaced their dead 24kwh leaf battery with a used 30,40, or 60kwh battery. With longer range also mean reduced charge cycles for the same distance traveled.
@JD-yx7be The problem is cost. It's not that you can't. It's just most aren't going to pay 20k-30k to replace a battery in a vehicle that's only worth 35k. EVs are basically disposable at this point because often a battery repair/replacement costs as much or more than the book value of the car.
@@8ball_998 That is why you get a used battery from a wrecked vehicle(as long as you inspect the health). GM shares this battery platform with all their other EV vehicles and it is modular so you might not have to replace the whole thing. Longer range EVs have fewer charge cylces for the same distance traveled. That is why a lot of early 24kwh leaf batteries dies cause they only had 80 mile range when new, meaning 12.5 charges per 1000 miles vs the Silverado 2.3 charges per thousand miles traveled
@JD-yx7be Don't get me wrong, I own a model 3. I actually like EVs because they are fun to drive. With a level 2 charger in my garage, it's a great commuter. But I bought it knowing I was rolling the dice that it could be scrap in 4 years or so if the battery craps out after a 100k. A 5 year old model 3 is not worth the 15-20k battery replacement cost. The biggest difference is cost was a 3rd of what these trucks are priced at.
@@8ball_998 you are quoting a new battery for a car that has over 100k miles that will still have worn body, interior, suspension, etc. A used healthy battery will make much more sense. I replaced the engine on my at the time 10 year old vw passat with another used engine
They are selling a shade as an accessory, thou it should be included. I agree that paying for a feature you don’t want sucks, but this is true for any trim that includes features you don’t want. If you really want this truck without the sunroof, you can opt for the 4WT trim instead of the RST trim.
This is just a feature of the debut RST for one year only, next year will have the option for a sliding shade and an opening panoramic roof. Debut models from GM are the basically equipped this way in year one for EV’s lately.
I would destroy that thing in months, not yesrs. EVs are not mesnt for hauling or towing, and they definitely aren't durable for ranch work. My biggest fear would be a battery fire on the ranch after all the jostling and backcountry workouts. No thanks. It's another poser truck.
what an absolute garbage "sponsored" review, shame that Truck king has fallen so far in such a shot time, and here I thought Roman from TFL was the biggest douche bag.
Quit promoting this ev crap. We all know the range is tiny with any trailer. Combine with cold weather and you will be lucky to have 100 miles of range.
This is the first generation and basically the worst it will ever get. I believe this truck has heat scavenging plus a heat pump so should have way more range than the 22/23 f150 lighting in the winter
But at a $100.000 bucks...what are monthly payments gonna be like?? Do car companys think everyone makes $500 an hour or wht?
Who cares, no one with a brain is buying one.
Yeah, I really don’t know what the business case for these things are.
You don’t make 500 an hour? Pfff
That plus the insurance costs $$$$$$$
$100,000 for 7 years at 0% would be $1190 per month..................
I agree with you on the regen, I want slight regen on with the option to increase it quickly to do my braking. The Model 3s that I have driven had max regen on and it was a jerky transition for me that reminded me of a SxS braking when you lift off the throttle.
One peddle is great for city and off for highway driving
The price is eye watering but I suspect that prices will drop as they get production rates up in the battery plant. The Bolt top trim was >$40k in 2018 and
So many people don't see this. They could eliminate $10k off the price tomorrow if they had fixed rear wheels and a solid roof and probably cut out a few hundred pounds too. LFP batteries would knock off 10% of range but could cut the pack cost by 20% too.
Commenters dont understand this truck. People are paying 90k for 1/2 ton truck that never tows. But they like to say they can tow. Thats this truck. Will you tow, maybe? But can you tow yes.
Great observation. Between Ultium bonus, dealer discount and Fleet package price offset, a 20-module battery 2024 WT3 can be had for lower than the price of 2025 14 module Wt targeting $60K
Excellent Review as always!!! 😁
I live just north of the Oshawa plant but didn’t realize they had a testing oval. It’s not shown on Google Maps but is on Apple Maps, north east corner of Stevenson and Phillip Murray
I don’t understand this truck at all. Way too heavy and expensive. If you need to pull heavy, buy a diesel for less. Weight of a 1 ton, payload of a 1/2 ton, who can resist? Instead, why not go with a small commuter truck, Maverick sized, that can’t tow more than a utility trailer, but it costs $40k instead of 100k. I can’t see how the Silverado EV can ever be a volume seller. Thanks for the review, Steve.
The real answer is because the Liberal Democrats have invested heavily in this technology and if they don't force you to buy it with made up clean air laws then they stand to lose billions. Not millions but Billions. Pelosi and the gang can't let your ignorant ass stop them from making insane fortunes. This will all fail by the way and then you will be forced to buy back all the stuff they outlawed and it will be worse than what we have now and they will of course invest again and rape you on the back end. That is why channels like this lose all credibility. You can tell there is a gun to their heads talking about this idiocy. Because ANYONE who knows and loves trucks would take a torch to this abomination.
I haul Mtn bikes and camping gear. Never tow. Need a good size bed.
To each their own, so many different points of views. But in terms of power delivery, the facts are there. Do you have a bad POV on ev's?
@@TheTiredPanda Actually, I’m all for EVs for the majority of getting around. But there’s certain tasks that they’re not yet suitable for. I just think that EV sales won’t really take off until they reach price parity with their ICE cousins. And that won’t (quickly) happen with a vehicle with a 200+ kWh battery.
They will be selling the 3wt for $75k that qualifies for the $7500 tax credit. If they make a LFP battery version with RWD i think they could easily get it under $60k before tax credit.
I think the issue with the lack of wow on the interior is that we have seen 90% of it before with Blazer EV and Traverse and Equinox EV reviews. Personally I love the screens but I get it
I obviously haven’t seen the EV but GM did a pretty good job on the current gas trucks, it’s still plastic but it’s grained nicely with some fake stitching. This thing looks super cheap from the videos
I agree, I was going to get it. Man… after looking at the interior; 100k is hard to swallow. The 4WT is a better choice.
Excellent video, I want to see the burn the tires off mode lol!!! Keep up the good work!!
Nice truck. Saw another one today on the road. The shape reminds me of my Avalanche. Of course, 95% of usage will be for the soccer moms taking the kids to practice.
If the price was more reasonable I could see the trades using a work truck version. Being able to run your gear on site without needing a generator would be nice. As far as the RST . Having no choice but to have that enormous glass roof and giant wheels and tires. No thanks.
Yeah as long as you are OK with a 50 mile range after using the plugs for 1 hour.
@@bikes7777 lol i have a portable power station with a tiny 1.6kwh capacity and it can power my fridge, freezer, sump pump, and wifi for around 10 hours. This truck has over 100x the capacity
I hope that they will offer(at least as an option) towing mirrors. The original seems to be a bit small
I miss my Avalanche and have been wanting to get into EVs, hopefully in a few years when the used ones start showing up I’ll grab one.
Did you set the EV Truck up in the display for towing? It talls you info on range then as you drive... ???
I would hope now that they have this truck which is like our old Avalanche we owned and is now discontinued that they put a combustion engine in and sell it. I'd love to have this truck with a combustion engine or maybe make it as a hybrid like Ford has done with their F150.
Chevy trucks highest trim is called GMC, not disappointed with Chevy's RST trim!
I did not like the look of the front end until I saw the work truck. Not only does it look better, but the 18" wheels are a huge improvement. I'm wondering if the mid bar is removeable when you open the mid gate and remove the rear window. At 2:45 it looks like it is removed. Otherwise I don't get why you would remove the rear window. The work truck would be my choice, but at $80,000 I don't see me replacing my current truck any time soon. With how I use a truck an EV would be a viable option.
I would assume it’s the same as what was on the Avalanche back in the day, but I don’t know for sure.
That one you could do: glass off mid gate up, glass on mid gate down, both down, or both up
If you buy one can the dealership fix them? Or do you have to look around for a place that can
Yes the dealership can fix it. They have to be qualified to fix it if they're going to be designated to sell them. In fact, they're the only ones who can.
*the only ones that fix them under warrantee; lots of mechanics with EV experience that can fix them in the aftermarket once the warrantee runs out.
Scary prospect: some time in the future (maybe 20 years from now) there will be more mechanics trained in repairing EV’s than in repairing engines (especially with most vehicles already covered in electronics) and you will need to go see an old specialist to get your (antique) gas engine repaired.
@@TFT-bp8zk no that is not true, there are several EV repair shops that will fix any EV. The point here is that EVs are shit and you're an idiot for thinking or buying one period.
@@Cloud30000 I have had problems with younger mechanics getting an alignment with my I-beam suspension in my 95 f150
Going to be a sells flop. Just too expensive
nobody want elecrtices trucks
Id rather buy the 6.2L. and pay $10.00 a gallon. I might not drive often but when I do, I'm enjoy my Truck 10x better!
and it's an EV
The original Telsa Model S with 85kwh battery cost $90k in 2012 dollars and had a max charge rate of 90kw. You can get a equinox ev for $42k in 2024 dollars with a 85kwh battery and can charge at 150kw. So prices will come down for EV pick up trucks too in the future.
@@JD-yx7be Let's hope not. EVs need to be trashed. Garbage. Absolute garbage.
At that price, I think the interior is good as it is. If they would have made it more fancy, you would be adding $1,000s to the price tag. It is already priced above what most people can afford.
yup if you can find a fast charger,glorified updated avalance.24 inch tires those wont last long,and the cost to replace them.
Great and thorough review, however I'm in the "I want more buttons and less screen controls" camp. I feel the lack of sunroof cover and not-quite 6' bed are complete misses. You couldn't haul a ladder and kit in the back in the rain or snow without problems. 24" wheels means this isn't seeing offroad trips. At this price, no trailer backup assist? Sorry, just not worth it.
Thanks for the great video. Lots of information. It will be interesting to see how these ev trucks evolve.
This is pretty cool, 10ft bed is insane, just love my gas silverado too much.
Why don't they incorporate the left hand regen into the brake pedal?
they do, this is just for extra regen.
EV Trucks aren't for me but I do find them interesting. Nice video.
Recoup 100 miles of range in ten minutes of charging (if you can find a 350 kW charger). I can recoup 520 miles of range in five minutes when I fill up my gasoline truck.
AMEN!
What about recouping range while your truck sits in your garage?
What about recouping the $35k premium you pay for this over my 24 LTZ? Many will take it hard and deep on this thing on resale value
@@nookbandit That is why i'm planing on buying a used one. I am starting to see F150 Lightnings for under $35k, once they drop to $25k it qualifies for the $4000 used EV tax credit.
@@JD-yx7be good luck! Hopefully they don’t change the tax credit details by then
I'd like to see what it looks like without those side steps
That's a piss poor payload capacity for a "full size" truck
a "heavy duty" truck no less.
Go with the work truck 3WT, more towing capacity and payload.
yup one pedal driving coasting so much for stopping at red lights.
A good fair and square review but the part that burns me is the entry level base truck is only available to the big fleet buyers not the average joe dirt that does all the living and dying in America hey GM my money is just as good as the big fleet buyers not asking for a hand out just a square deal
There will be other trims in the next year so I think that will change.
It’s a nice looking nicer then ford lightning but for know I’ll stick with my baby duramax tim great video
“Tim” 🤣🤣🤣
I mean, it definitely is by far the best electric truck, but TFL had to disconnect their trailer to charge it and that price is way too much. the range rivals a gas 1/2 ton towing, but recharging is still the same nightmare....
That is what the ramcharger is trying to solve and it should be $10-20k cheaper and a thousand pounds lighter
Only way the price of these new vehicles would be justified is if they come with a lifetime warranty bumper to bumper
This thing is awesome if you ignore the weight and the price. The latter is a pretty big dealbreaker for most folks. The former is going to become a big issue once these start getting in accidents.
it's trash, it's electric. same as crack, just say no and they will be forced to build something else. It's already happening, just stay the course. Besides you could rebuild a nice OBS Chevy for half the price and have a WAAAAY better longer lasting truck.
@@magnavoxfifty Yeah don't worry I have no intention of buying something like this. Just wait until people realize what replacing a 200 kWh battery is going to cost 10 years from now. Most of these will end up in landfills long before my ICE F150 does.
@@plmn93 battery prices are falling rapidy. 10 years ago a battery cost $700/kwh today it is $150/kwh. In 2027 it is expected to drops to $100/kwh and $70/kwh by 2030
@@JD-yx7be Uh huh. Even if your best case scenario happens, that is $14,000 for this battery alone. Then you have installation and any other associated costs. Good luck.
@@plmn93 There will also be a used battery market. Used batteries fall in price in lockstep with new battery prices. You can get a scan tool to measure the health of the battery too. People are replacing their old 24kwh Leaf batteries with used healthy 30,40, or 60kwh batteries that are less than what a 24kwh battery was a few years prior. GM shares this battery platform with all their other EV vehicles too.
There are rumors so i can't confirm yet that the next gen bolt will have compatible batteries and motors to the first gen. The first gens are just starting to come out of warranty, i am interested in that front too
They should have just painted the kettle black, and called it what it really is.......an avalanche. Then, they should have thrown a 3.0 LZO diesel in it and called it a day.
Why can’t manufacturers make a brake pedal with a light resistance in the regen range, then an increased resistance in the mechanical range so you can feel in the pedal when you transition but make the actual vehicle braking smooth throughout the entire range?
It would be the easy compromise between one pedal driving and normal driving, where you can tell when you are at max regen while braking and thus hold it there until you need more brake power and press harder for the brake pads to kick in smoothly.
Why can't manufacturers knock off this nonsense and go back to building decent V8 trucks? Oh, that's right the rich elite Democrats have invested in the stock for EVs too heavily they will lose a fortune if they don't force you to buy this trash.
@@magnavoxfifty who hurt you?
@@Cloud30000 who made you stupid?
@@magnavoxfifty You can still buy Ford and GM V8s. GM is coming out with an aluminum block DOHC engine to replace the current 5.3L
@@JD-yx7be You have to buy a 2500 or bigger, and you can't get a regular cab with a V8 without the same. Stupid. Every engine should be available in every configuration.
Definitely interested….but not at that price.
I cant believe they didnt have a pull over for that glass roof of some sort....Just a take but come on.... Hello Common Sence !
Imagine what the repair on the 4 wheel steering and battery packs would cost. This is a unibody “truck” as well and the glass roof would be a no go for me.
It is kind of a hybrid of uni body and body on frame. Chevy has had 4 wheel steering before on the silverado I'm sure they have made some improvements in the 2 plus decades that existed
The insane torque off the line was a fun novelty in the beginning but now it’s just kinda dumb
Exactly, if you need that much speed to merge then your using the wrong peddle
Speak for yurself. I love that torque every stop light, every on-ramp, every day in my Lightning.
It’s nice (especially when towing) when you are stuck merging from an off ramp with traffic that would rather let you side-swipe them (lane traffic has right of way over on-ramp merging traffic) then slow down and let you in. Niche situation for most, but still important to consider.
When not dealing with traffic, a torque converter and appropriate gearing can get you all the torque you need to get moving from pretty much any situation, just spread out over a longer time as the mechanics keep adjusting to modify/increase your torque at a given speed. It’s why an old 70’s Mack truck can tow so much even at highway speeds, but takes forever to accelerate compared to the rest of traffic.
Nowadays, automatics are so smooth and have so many gears that it already feels like you have instant continuous torque (at least if you aren’t comparing it to an EV).
@@pbwmanagement Pedal.
I hate the seats in all the truck brands. I'm shocked at how clueless manufacturers have been when it comes to comfort and ergonomics. Something simple like extending the length on the seat to cover more leg area (hamstring support....?), they still have not integrated, but yet I can buy a car or SUV for a fraction of the cost and it has more comfortable seats. RAM in my opinion has the most comfortable seats just because of the length, the seat is roughly 2 to 3 inches from my knees offering a lot more support, where as Ford and GM have shorter seats. Those short seats end up putting more pressure on your lower back and especially on longer drives it becomes uncomfortable.
Still have along way to go. Weight, charging, price and most of all not knowing when it may self combust!!!
That’s a nice looking vehicle with many great features. Unfortunately it s priced way out of reach of normal people. Even if charging infrastructure was good, this should be around $60,000 to be competitive with F150 XLT 4x4 in Atlanta market. Lack of charging should mean it should be really selling no more than $50,000. Who is going to buy this?
Charging infrastructure is growing every day with new charger installs or upgrades to existing ones. Battery prices are also falling in 2018 it was $275/kwh, today it is $150/kwh. It is expected to fall to under $130 next year and drop under $100/kwh in 2027
Good luck driving a 9000 lb truck in sand or mud..
All the extra features being built into trucks is the issue with price. Unless the prices come down significantly and charging speed is increased electric will never become a normal. To even say a 100k truck will become widespread is plain stupid, the average person will never afford this.
They put in all the extra features because they are cheap to put in, and most people like the features. The big cost on this truck is the 200kwh battery. The retail on that alone is going to be at least $30,000 to $50,000. Making the battery safe for fast charging and protected for road use (as opposed to a stationary battery) adds even more.
At $96k it’s a complete dud. Look at the size of the domestic EV market. Now scale it back to just the EV truck market. Now segment that into Tesla, Rivian, Ford and GM fans. Congratulations on selling 3 units per year, GM. Good work!
Has to start somewhere, these are basically the worst they will ever be. I remember the nissan leaf was $38k in 2011 dollars and 80 miles range, now it is $29k with 140 miles range in 2024 dollars with double the charging speed and 50 more hp. The next gen is launching in march 2025 and is expected to have 230 miles range and another another 50% increase in charging speed and a hp boost.
love to see the crash test on this truck. This trucks price reminds me of dealer addons to drive the price up and increase their profit.
gorgeous truck but price is...
Would be cool with a 6.2 and 6-speed manual
I miss those old Detroit diesels i think they had a 4 speed manual 3 speed auto
Makes me want to hold onto my Ram 1500 Tradesman Hemi even more. Was $32k brand new in 2020 and paid it off early. Simple enough to mod and maintain with enough power for what I need and decent mpg and almost 600 mile range.
Ram is coming out with the ramcharger with 600hp and over 600 miles range. It is a series hybrid like a freight train. It can also act as a backup generator for your house.
I can't even fathom how insanely expensive insurance will be on this truck.
I'm not an EV enthusiasts or anything like that, but I do understand reality and the engineering and construction of an electric truck is of course superior to a ICE truck...The only issue is how it gets power...Battery technology is really not where it needs to be yet to make electric vehicles a no brainer...I actually really like that Silverado and have caught some flak for embracing it...But as a former Navy mechanic, I really don't care who gives me flak about it because the advantages from a wrench head standpoint is clear and obvious...But I would not have an electric vehicle as my only daily now or ever...It will only be a support or backup 2nd vehicle...So far it looks like GM has learned from the electrical issues from their Hummer EV and made the correction in this Silverado so that it wouldn't leave you stranded with zero power...That's my biggest issue, even though there is a process to get it back up again that the owner can do in just a few minutes, but it should never have to come to that...I can see myself in fantasy land owning one of those Silverados to sit next to my tried and trusty 2016 Buick Enclave ICE vehicle which is my number one driver...
I like this truck very much, electric is the future.
EV is trash. They don't go far, takes to long to recharge, the battery life is about 10 years then you throw away your vehical. I can't name 1 positive for EV over Fuel!
Says the communist D-rider.
Hah, I bet you also have a daily dose of soy set at around 12,000mg.
I will never understand people who get an electric truck for towing. It’s like getting a 22 rifle for killing a moose. Wrong tool for the job.
***** Rented this truck for 9 days and the screen blackout and the AC gave out due to a HIGH VOLTAGE CHARGE which was prompt on the screen. I had no AC on a hot day while it was raining. I was in Texas when this all happened *****
Save your money until it’s fixed
I like it
Better than the Ford.
Take this all day over the cyber trash.
Pillage from TFL much? 2:49. Lol, too funny
I like electric truck
If it came with a V8, I’d buy one right now
Well go buy a 2005 Avalanche then.
What’s the payload and towing on an old Avalanche compared to this?
Avalanche is nice, but might not be able to handle the load.
@@Cloud30000The Avalanche’s came in both 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton models with a 6 liter and a big block.
@@TFT-bp8zk Ride is too harsh no need for the extra suspension for daily use. EV is trash.
@@Cloud30000 neither will this after like six miles the battery will be dead and you'll be waiting hours to recharge only to do it all over again in twenty minutes.
Hands down my favorite product
It's all I recommend to my customers
Do you also recommend a daily intake of 15,000mg of soy?
@@chrismoney1468 Your soy jokes suck. That's 15 grams of soy. One paperclip weighs around one gram. Go play in traffic.
@@chrismoney1468 YES
Every truck designer knows that weight is the enemy.
Passenger luxury vehicle.
Looks like an Avalanche
Just what we need faster vehicles on the road…..
a great calm peaceful towing experience while you wait for it to charge for 45 minutes every 200 miles. Tow an RV around the country then tell me how great it is.
I think if your plan is to tow across the country, you’d go for a different choice of pickup.
@@ALMX5DP I don't think you understand the Democrats want ZERO emission for EVERYTHING including big semi-trucks better vote Trump.
Yeah not to mention the fact that you would be pushing the standard license towing weight limit depending on the weight you are pulling and state you live in almost purely because of the whopping 9k pound truck. Like in California for instance you wouldn’t be able to pull more than a thousand pounds without needing some sort of endorsement or special acceptance on your license to drive a vehicle and trailer over 10k pounds gvwr. With electric trucks weighing this much and have 200 miles or less of range there is no way it’s actually realistic for most people to do any real towing with one.
I just pulled my bass boat over a 1000 miles round trip, I can’t imagine the amount of time I would have wasted while charging, finding charging stations on my direct route thru southern Illinois,Kentucky and Tennessee or finding someone to fix it if something happened.
@@ALMX5DP this is the problem....a lot of people don't buy a 1/2 ton really expecting to tow....they just end up going to an RV show one day and go home with a travel trailer. Of course, I'm not speaking from experience at all...hahaah. Point is, when buying a truck always buy more than you think you need.
nope to super cruise or fords version how can you pay attention when hands arnt on wheel you ca doze off.
Only thing cool about this "truck" is they brought back the midgate from the Avalanche. Should offer this as an option in the regular Silverado instead of this ridiculously overpriced EV.😊
Electric trucks are for man-children with bewbs who average about 14,000mg of soy by lunchtime.
14 grams isn't a lot of anything. You can talk a lot of sht but you can't do much in the math department, can ya?
@@TFT-bp8zk 14,000mg is a lot of soy by lunchtime. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
@@TFT-bp8zk Also, your comment speaks volumes to the type of Beta male you are.
I find it ironic that you use taking soy as an insult, but then admit to knowing details on the appropriate soy supplement level. I also think you are on the wrong channel and no one understands your “witty dis”
@@Cloud30000 I got it h@m@
Until the prices are slashed in half, I would never buy an electric truck.
I wouldn't want one if it were free.
@@magnavoxfifty good point
If it follows the same trend as the Nissan Leaf it will be pretty close if you adjust for inflation. The 2011 nissan leaf cost $38k and had 80 miles range, the 2024 Leaf cost $29k with a ton of inflation from a few years prior and 140 miles range.
@@JD-yx7be 80 miles? are you mad? I can get a gas powered go cart to go farther. DO you know why the Nissan leaf is so cheap? NO ONE WANTS IT. The poor sure as heck aren't going to want it or will buy it. You can't repair them either, it is total part replacement and those parts out very expensive.
@@magnavoxfifty yes, that is why the deprecation was bad on them so you can pick one up for a few grand and replace the battery with either a 30, 40, 60kwh battery from a wrecked Leaf with a healthy battery. You can do the same with the older Model S people replacing the 200 mile 60kwh pack with a 300 mile 90kwh pack
You know they tried electric vehicles 80 - 90 years ago you know what they did not have the demand. Guess GM has not learned any lessons from Ford F-150 EV. At $100k they are never selling these to anybody but, people in the city like me. Tell you what I am not buying any EV truck or car give me a GM diesel powered 2500 with max tow for my $100k. GM needs to send these EV trucks straight to the car crusher.
Most people outside the city didn't have electric. Also the batteries back then were much lower density around 1/4 what it is today.
Imagine being t-boned by a 9000lb truck with 800hp. 😂
I have a 8000lb truck with 215hp lol
Dud.
What is the range in -20 degrees? Or when you want to pull a 9000 lb trailer? I’ll wait.
Can you imagine the price down the road for batteries.
Recently, someone I know was quoted 62k for replacing batteries on a 2009 ford hybrid. Thats a hybrid, imagine a full EV.
That sounds like a dealer rip off and not a serious quote. The Toyota hybrids which shares some parts with fords are about $2500-2800 including labor
That sounds like a dealer rip off and not a serious quote. The Toyota hybrids which shares some parts with fords are about $2500-2800 including labor
IMO the only way EV trucks make sense for normal is if they increase the battery warranty significantly. 100k truck with a battery warranty of only 8 years or 100k miles. Most people will be scared to own one of these outside of warranty. Which means resale is going to be horrible. Who can afford to gamble 50k on a 4-5 year old truck with 101k miles on it? Lets be realistic. EVs currently are throw away vehicles. Meaning when the battery goes, repair/replacement costs more than the vehicle is worth. Ironic that they push them as green. Lots of older vehicles still on the road with their second or third engine. Almost no one is going to be willing to put a 30-40k battery into a 5 year old truck that's worth maybe 50k. Worse, Imagine buying a used one and owing 30k on it only to be told it needs a 30k repair to be usable. The warranty needs to be better. At least 160k miles 12 years
You can put a used engine in a used truck, why not a used battery in a used ev. Diagnostic tools can measure the battery health. Some people have already replaced their dead 24kwh leaf battery with a used 30,40, or 60kwh battery. With longer range also mean reduced charge cycles for the same distance traveled.
@JD-yx7be The problem is cost. It's not that you can't. It's just most aren't going to pay 20k-30k to replace a battery in a vehicle that's only worth 35k. EVs are basically disposable at this point because often a battery repair/replacement costs as much or more than the book value of the car.
@@8ball_998 That is why you get a used battery from a wrecked vehicle(as long as you inspect the health). GM shares this battery platform with all their other EV vehicles and it is modular so you might not have to replace the whole thing. Longer range EVs have fewer charge cylces for the same distance traveled. That is why a lot of early 24kwh leaf batteries dies cause they only had 80 mile range when new, meaning 12.5 charges per 1000 miles vs the Silverado 2.3 charges per thousand miles traveled
@JD-yx7be Don't get me wrong, I own a model 3. I actually like EVs because they are fun to drive. With a level 2 charger in my garage, it's a great commuter. But I bought it knowing I was rolling the dice that it could be scrap in 4 years or so if the battery craps out after a 100k. A 5 year old model 3 is not worth the 15-20k battery replacement cost. The biggest difference is cost was a 3rd of what these trucks are priced at.
@@8ball_998 you are quoting a new battery for a car that has over 100k miles that will still have worn body, interior, suspension, etc. A used healthy battery will make much more sense. I replaced the engine on my at the time 10 year old vw passat with another used engine
Darn glass roof only is simply idiotic lol!!!! Not being able to shade it is really what's dumb lol!!!!
They are selling a shade as an accessory, thou it should be included. I agree that paying for a feature you don’t want sucks, but this is true for any trim that includes features you don’t want.
If you really want this truck without the sunroof, you can opt for the 4WT trim instead of the RST trim.
This is just a feature of the debut RST for one year only, next year will have the option for a sliding shade and an opening panoramic roof. Debut models from GM are the basically equipped this way in year one for EV’s lately.
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Worst thing Chevrolet could have dun..
Can you say ……..Avalanche ????
god id have to learn a new math kilowat hours to km or mies per gallon id get bad head aches,nope ill never be a electric vehicle fan boy
I’ll buy it in 3 years when it has lost 70% of it’s value
My only draw back on this truck is mud and water in my mind I can’t help but think k id get electrocuted if I get it in mud or do a creek crossing.
It’s going to be a big failure like the $100k hummer
Avalanche EV
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I would destroy that thing in months, not yesrs. EVs are not mesnt for hauling or towing, and they definitely aren't durable for ranch work. My biggest fear would be a battery fire on the ranch after all the jostling and backcountry workouts.
No thanks. It's another poser truck.
Chevy EV: too late, too expensive, too ugly, too 💩.
Why are you guys showing these garbage EV vehicles. No body bought into this nonsense and corruption. Absolute corruption in Ontario.
What a ridiculous product to market and also make a video about. No one is buying this aside from 5 dudes that are too busy to watch TH-cam lol
And here I was.. hoping your channel would help rational people boycott EV’s. Disappointing…
what an absolute garbage "sponsored" review, shame that Truck king has fallen so far in such a shot time, and here I thought Roman from TFL was the biggest douche bag.
Trash! i like the drama of a gas truck
No truck or car is worth $90k-100k at any configuration. Only stupid people with too much money will buy posers!
Stop the EV bull! Nobody wants one period! Unless you’re a battery maker in China!
Quit promoting this ev crap. We all know the range is tiny with any trailer. Combine with cold weather and you will be lucky to have 100 miles of range.
This is the first generation and basically the worst it will ever get. I believe this truck has heat scavenging plus a heat pump so should have way more range than the 22/23 f150 lighting in the winter
Tires will be good for 20k😅😅