Canon R5 vs Sony A7RIII- Has Canon FINALLY caught up?
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why compare an a7RIII with the R5 when there's an A7RIV?????? also if you make adjustments to the canon, make adjustments to the Sony. Also if the colours bother, manually white balance on site. EASY. Disappointed with this review. Heavily favouring a canon when not warranted. And ironically still struggled to give it props against an old Sony A7RIII
A7RIII is about the same megapixels and still has a monster sensor plus I don’t own the R4
Look at the settings. They are same but Canon was a tad darker. I had to slightly bump it to match. Doesn’t make a difference in the real world.
The green tint doesn’t change with a white balance adjustment. It just a characteristic when shooting high contrast scenes.
Maaaan, I’m a sony shooter lol I have a sony camera on my merch. I’m giving credit where credit is due 👍
@@MannyOrtiz Listen bro, you are the original. I have an a7iii after watching all those original shoots way back. I will always have love for Manny and if i'm honest i've not had the level of green in shot you have using a grey card. I'm not saying the green isn't there but the language of the review was negative towards the sony when it was unwarranted as these are easily corrected in post and i feel you should have made it V clear that you were reviewing a brand new canon against an OLD tech sony. I have not tested the R5 so i cannot give an opinion i'm just saying it was weighted heavily in canons favour with language and tone. Also i dont feel you even said about the canon being darker on the same settings. Not that that's even that important but i feel if you would mention minor things about sony. you should about the canon too. The reality is we are now finally in an era where both RIV and R5 essentially can produce a more similar image and with post processing be basically identical now. But in terms of Dynamic range. I'm pretty sure the Sony A7RIV would edge it........ and not overheat 😂😂😂😂😂😂 hashtag angry sony fan boy
Still love you Manny. I look forward to another OCF lighting tutorial/BTS video
Dude. You got triggered 😤 way too much. Manny is the reason I switched to Sony A7Riii over a Canon from Nikon D850. Relax a bit and enjoy the vids. Also Mac, which gimbal do you think would go well along with an A7Riii & Sigma 85mm / 24mm 1.4 Art lenses. Am getting into video now and found no review of such. The sigma lenses are quite heavy and I fear that calibration / balance might be off.
The A7R III has silghtly better DR than the R IV, except between ISO 320 and 500. Surprise!
@@martinmac6563 You go tell us Mac,because you dont want no EasyBake oven,you want a camera you can use over 40 minutes..hehehehehe..It's that Sony love,i guess,from the company that was not a camera company,came up,innovated mirrorless,and went to Number one..Canon marches on as well,with their 1DXiii,which does not cook dinner...
I love Manny for keeping the content real, as he is the only one on internet to compare R5 with a camera which is under same bodyweight category. respect!
Uh...tracking? I couldn't take my eyes off the model. Was Manny even talking?
You must have great Eye Tracking software 👀😂
wait..... manny was talking?!!!
I was tracking too. 🤣
Sony needs to catch up eye af to 'Josef Level'...😀
Loooooooool
Don't even care what camera ur using for every shot
The model is too beautiful
Manny has THE EYE to choose beautiful models
Beautiful women in general! Diana is gorgeous!!!
She is a natural beauty
She ll look good in 100 dollar camera
Agreed AHAHAHHA
she is out of my dynamic range.
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Manny you’re the best! It’s always a pleasure to work and create with you! 🥰🙌
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@@Bunk536 lmao
You are absolutely gorgeous as a model!
@@Bunk536 should be hotter than an r5 overhea...🤣
If you ever visit Maldives do hit me up. Want to do some shoots with you 😁
Manny: Look at that tracking..
Me: I'm tracking alright.
The flip rear touch screen on the Canon is so useful and I hope Sony will improve that on their still cameras soon. A7s3 showed that it's possible.
Knowing and using the dynamic range to it's limit on the camera is very practical for working photographers, especially shooting a model. The time you save on carrying and setting up flashes/reflectors maybe enough to shoot another look or location. Not every working photographer has time or assistants and a crew to setup up every shot.
Nice work Manny, I always respect your true honest opinion and how you share your first hand experience.
Diana: Babe, who is your model today?
Manny: Devin
Diana: oky, you better use 200mm lens so that you stay away from her
LMAO 🤣
HAHA!
Can't blame Diana. She (Devin) is smokin' hot! One of the best looking models I have seen.
Brandon Morrison 😂
Galeidan 😂🤣 poor Diana
She’s great, but I prefer Elizabeth Wheeland. She’s gorgeous too but also has a fun personality too
Dynamic range is king. I was blown away when going from Canon to Sony right when the A7iii came out. Thank you for shedding some light on this subject. Being able to manipulate the light in your images is so important.
love these tutorials. its helping me to decide my next camera. love your attention to dynamic range, it def matters.
Great job Manny. What a timely companion. I watched all the ads for you bro !
Manny ALWAYS coming through with that FIRE!!!!!!
Trust me I've been waiting fo rthis EXACT video ever since the announcement! thanks a bunch man! I need to save up some money and hopefully I can get a new R5/6
Good stuff as usual dude, love your pics
Manny, you are rocking the TH-cam game! Been following you for a while. You are getting drastically better. Keep on rocking!
Great video Manny! And you are right on the dynamic range and its importance!
I just got my R5 in last Friday... 2 months on Pre-Order!! I also shoot on the move, no external lights - just natural light. Also depend on dynamic range to help in situations of shadows and harsh light. Great video!
great job as always manny
Nice video with a great comparison, enjoyed watching it. Manny, your videos are getting better and better, nicely done! Keep it up :)
Say hello to Brazil Manny! Thanks for all you done til today helping me in every single video you posted!
Yes. I too have been struggling with the green tints on my Sony files especially in high bright contrasty places. Thank you for addressing this Manny.
It’s reflections off of plants. All cameras have it
It’s great working with a model like this who knows what she’s doing. Most of my photo shoots are families and weddings, so I primarily work with non-models. All beautiful people, but not models. The few times I’ve worked with a model, like the person in this video, it’s amazing. They hit their marks, know how to stand and position their body in all the right angles. Such body awareness to know how to stand so perfectly for the camera is hard to do, it’s a trained skill. It’s night and day. I worked with this one model who always took my focal length into consideration because she was keeping the compression of the lens in mind and based that on how she posed. Amazing. Being a good model, like the person in this video, is very hard work.
NO ONE, ABSOLUTELY NO ONE EVER:
MANNY: Massive telephoto zoom lens 1 metre away from subject in thumbnail lol
Do you even zoom?😆
Yo just wanna say I bought one of your preset packs recently and they're head & shoulders above all the other one's I've ever bought. Worth every penny, really appreciate the quality man
Hell yeah bro. That means a lot 🤟
Catching up on Manny videos. I believe that this is the most beautiful model I've ever seen in one of your videos. Almost makes we want to move back to Chicago...ALMOST. Thanks for the review. I've been a Canon shooter for over 30 years and I'm really excited about this camera. I feel that they are starting to listen again.
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I appreciate the video and the information but just like your love for your A7 III keeps you there , I've yet to have any issue with my EOS R . Like you said everyone has a different style and their mileage may vary but I appreciate the honest comments and videos. I can tell you are fond of the R5 even through your love for sony that's the reaction of a photographer not a fan boy. So thank you for the content and I can't wait for what else is to come!
My first time watching you. Very impressed. You know your stuff.
Manny Great work ! Love your videos. Keep it up. Your helping me a lot. Thank you.
nice video - beautiful photos - nor worried about the comparison so much, but we did just upgrade to the R5 from 5DIV and it was cool to see you show off what we can expect from it. and props to your models - as you say, they know what they are doing!
You are so right about the importance of dynamic range. It is even more true if you shoot landscapes. Many times with moving water, you cannot use exposure bracketing. Capturing the full range of light with one exposure is magic.
Both cameras give amazing results! Good comparison video on both cameras, Manny. 🙂👍
That photo at 3:23 is great. Well done, Manny.
Good Job as always Hermano.
This video is 🔥 !
Dynamic range is super important. The 5DIV dynamic range was more than enough for anything I ever shot (lots of shadow pulling) but the EOS-R suffered in that area with shadow pattern noise, colour shifts and some banding.
I've played with the R5 files and yeah, the dynamic range is now the best of any camera I've ever used for photo, and now with the video overheating issue being mostly remedied with the new firmwares, even better. . In this day and age there is no reason to be brand jumping anymore.
The Eos R always bugged me with banding, especially with mixed lighting. I’ve got the R6 now and it’s awesome!
Oh it's this Eos R bullsh*t again. It's the exact opposite, against 5d mk4.
I use a 5d mark iv... And was inclined towards buying sony a7riv but now with canon launching r5 I'm confused between both... I do outdoor potraits... Also would like to know if A7 RIII or canon R6 could do the same job so I could save some money and buy a better lens... Would be great if yiu can suggest?
it's true, I have both and I also find out that yellow/green are different. I hate those color on my eos R. they share the same sensor but they are not similar to me. Do you think that the colors of the R5 are more similar to the 5d mark iv than the eos R?
@@adityathakkar9014 If your already invested with Canon glass then the answer is obvious -stay with Canon. But if your not then my advise is rent the A7r3 and use it Sony lenses. Do lots of comparison with photos and use the camera extensively to make sure you like Sony's ergonomics, screen navigation etc. A lot more of your creativity can be harnessed if you also like the camera your using. So yeah rent the Sony. That's what i did and ended up staying with Canon.
you the man manny!! love your videos...
high dynamic range is actually pretty important to me. It can change an "OK" picture to a great picture.
Manny, THANK YOU for highlighting the DR!! So many reviewers just do not cover that in detail and it's VERY important for my style. I, like you, left Canon (5D MKIII), but for the Nikon D810 which at the time (and still today) has mind-blowing DR. I have been using Nikon for stills and Canon APSC for video for years - waiting...and waiting...and waiting for either Canon to up their DR game or Nikon to develop usable video. Now the Z8/9 is here, but also the R5 has just recently dropped $500 in price. I think I'm heading back to Canon thanks to seeing that the DR levels have FINALLY gotten to a usable level for my needs. Great work!!
That ending though. Superb photos my dear sir.
Well done.. you're the best manny👍
Phenomenal video. Absolutely subscribed.
Thank you for the video I really needed this
Finally got my R5! Pre-ordered it 8 minutes (7:08AM PST) from BH... thought about cancelling it, until I realized that I'm a photographer first, then experimental videographer. Plus, now with all the updates, video will be in my court as well too! And the 70C in a couple of days....
Duuude! That framing at 03:08! Love it!
Hi Manny
Thank you for your transparency .your working it ,many negative comments are said because they are always negative your right on when you said many people don'tt agree.Love tour passion .From one Ortiz in Southern Cal great job Manny.
Great video Manny! It's hilarious when people claim, 'oh, I just get it right in camera'. These are people who don't even know what dynamic range is. I always ask them, 'which part of the scene did you correctly expose in camera? At a given aperture/ISO if you meter off the model you get one shutter speed, meter off the sky you get a much higher shutter speed, meter off the shadows a slower shutter speed. You can only set one shutter speed, which one did you use? Do you lift shadows in post or recover highlights? You do?! Then you're relying on adequate dynamic range to successfully do so'.
Anyone who claims they get it right in camera probably has blown out highlights and/or lost shadow details and doesn't even realise it.
Truth!
Or they carry around flashes and strobes everywhere (like Jason Lanier), which can be annoying, and the results often don't look as good as just recovering shadows later. I much prefer the more natural look that Manny and Irene get with their work (even when Manny uses a flash it still looks natural)
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Your comment is absolutely true, if you only shoot natural light. If you use flashes on location you can get the exposure near perfect in camera.
Bella Italia in 4K
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Depending on what you do and your skills,you can get it right in camera..That's exactly how much of photography was done,and now we have the benefit of making changes with a computer/software...I shot last weekend in the street and the lighting alone killed all of the shots,so I would have had to use a computer,and software to make them decent.
The Canon looks really great Manny they have really done amazing things lately
till this day manny i watch your content till this day!! lol love the feed brother
Great photographer skills. Great photos. And very useful review.
I respect your professionalism. I have to admit I cannot work with this model and still think about composition.
Dang man, Manny you are inspiring me so much bro !!!! Thanks man !!!!
Your subscribe method caught me. Good job on the smoothness
One of the best models you’ve shot! She’s lit!
Brother brother brother! I just loved everything that you said about the Dynamic Range! I can totally correlate 😍 Even I don't know about other people but seriously, you won my heart, mate! And of course, I love every video of yours that I have seen until now and again, of course, I subscribed! 🤎
THE BG SOUND IS SO CATCHY!
I've come to the decision that next spring I will likely pop for a R5 along with a RF24-70 f2.8 and the RF100-500 to get started. I too am mightily impressed with the camera, it's functions and color of course. I've been a Sony guy for years but am ready to make the switch after next tax season. I began my career over 20 years ago with Canon and am finally returning.
Check out the RF 28-70 F2. I tried it today, wow
@@nubscrub was LITERALLY about to say the same thing!
In the immortal words of Benjamin Ortega, that model, WOW WOW WOW 😍
I enjoy your videos, thank you for sharing your findings. Gorgeous model by the way.
This Is Good Work Man. Thank You.
Subbed! 🙏🏾❤
That thumbnail is gonna get you SO many views! Love your work my man!
you are a master at shooting these models.
It's very simple. You have to know your camera first. You can't shoot every camera the same way. Some sensors have more DR below mid gray , some have more above mid gray, so you have to learn to expose for your subject, and your sensor, if you want to maximize dynamic range.
True. The R5 seems to have added a LOT of dynamic range in the shadows, with a bit less in the highlights (according to some). Some cameras like the Fuji medium format have very good highlight dynamic range (with a bit less in the shadows).
Yup
Between the two I find myself always liking the shots from the canon as the colour seems nicer to me. The green in the Sony is really off, side be side.
thanks for your video, it helps me a lot, especially since i like to take pictures in a similar way, although of course never in your class!
“The lines bro the lines, look at that autofocus omg...” yeah i was thinkin the same thing ;) fr tho appreciate the comparison, would love to see you work with an R6 and see how much the MP makes a difference in your real world experience and workflow.
Always a pleasure watching your videos. Ur an inspiration to all of us. I would love to buy the canon r5 for photos, but its pricey and the over heat issue is a problem for shooting video. Was gonna sell my canon 5d mk4 but I'll wait and see. Keep up the good work bro.
Might just be your most amazing model yet !!!!
Love the video!!
She looks amazing. Awesome photos, Great shoot. Keep it up! 👍
Great video! I’m like you and need the flexibility. I left Canon for Sony years ago and now just left Sony for the Canon R6. I’m in love. Canon finally caught up.
Thanks for this Manny man! I would realy like to see what you would have to say about the r6 vs the r5 for this kind of work. Thank you bro! Keep up the good work!
I got the R6 and the highlights recovery is excellent!
You are amazing...I'm an amateur...but learn a lot from you...Thanks so much!
My last Canon camera was a 5dMIV and I had same kind of issues about dynamic range and ISO performance, then I switched to Sony and I don't have these issues anymore also improving the time i spend editing... but hey this r5 seems phenomenal. I'm glad Canon finally is there!
Great video as always man, always enjoy your opinion. Also what kind of specs are you running with your iMac?
Subbed. Great vid. I'm a wedding photographer and I don't care about lab tests and pixel peeps. Being a canon shooter for about 10 years, I'm happy to see the jump in dynamic range. Truth is, as hard as anyone tries on a wedding day, you will over or under expose. It's inevitible. I got the r6 over the R5 as its perfect for my needs and R5 is overkill. But both are incredible cameras.
This video made my decision for my next camera harder lol Thanks so much for posting this comparison!
Good content as usual..
Well done 👏 you explained it perfectly thank you !
Are you going to do a video with the R6 vs R5 and or vs Sony a73?
Uh, great model! I agree Manny. I find photographers that only shot jpgs...old fashion people... and I kinda respect their POV. But these days with this technology is so much easier to focus on subject and the story rather than technical aspects of the camera. Thanks for sharing!
Great video! Thanks Manny :))
Manny, thanks for another great post. Really interested to see these two cameras compared - great coverage of a great topic. I was wondering if you were able to try to process the Canon files in Capture One Pro and if so, was the recovery any different. Thanks again for your post.
During your test with the R5, did you ever find the camera overheating that might spoil your mood for shooting still photos/video concurrently? Tq
Dang the comparison.. Who's really here for those bangin models Manny be landin!
I love my a7riii! Picked it up not long ago instead of the a7riv and been loving it with a combo with my a7iii!
Brother your photography is awsome
Manny I've been using natural lighting forever. What do you suggest is a good starter lighting setup for a sony full frame?
Greetings, thank you for the amazing review on the R5. I just invested on the R5 with a 100-500mm lens for wildlife photography. But i still use my legacy lenses that I use on my 7D with the adapter and they work just as amazingly. Thank you for keeping yopur reviews in a manner most people will understand. Oh...is that Chi Town?
Love the video footage
I used the 5DmkIII and had exactly the same dynamic range and noise issues, frustrated the shit out of me. Always had to sharpen in post that aggravated the situation. It was a sad day when eventually I dumped all my Canon equipment, including those delicious lenses, and went the Fuji route, and I'm a lot happier. BUT! All of a sudden Canon comes up with the ultimate instrument, I cannot believe my eyes! I could kill for it!! And the eye autofocus brings tears to my eyes. Canon, how could you?? (wait until now!). Thanks for great videos. Have to agree, better to stay far away from this model and use long focal length!
Manny.... Are your presets available on desktop and mobile when purchased?? Or just desktop or just mobile?
I like to get it right "in the camera" also, but you made a great comment, where you set up your photograph for success, which I think is a very important distinction to make.
Great points regarding dynamic range. I am not surprised that Canon finally caught up.
When this pandemic goes away, I hope you come out to the SF Bay Area again sometime and do a mini-workshop or something like that. It was fun meeting you, Diana, and Scott Robert Lim at the Samy's Camera SF event. BTW.. Still love the Addicted shirt I got! :-)
Dope comparison broski.
File flexibility is everything cause even sometimes you can have everything right in camera and the metering in camera can be off.
Great to see this video after considering the EOS R & A7R3 for nature photography after some good pricing on both for boxing week. I am a Canon shooter, but have been struggling as I get more into bird photography and trying to recover detail for exposure correction, and cropping in. I also use Lightroom for my workflow. My challenge is using all my EF mount glass on E mount. I'm going to try the Metabones V EF-E and cross my fingers. I would like to use the EOS R5, but in Canada it is more than double the A7R3.
You have a duplicate "has" in the title.
IM WITH YOU BRO!
caution with DR : the recovery of highlight and shadows do not look the same, depending on the reason why you'll want to recover those (either for skin, cloth, or sky) you'll find that for sky it's better to underexpose and for skin to overexpose, at least on Canon 6D2. Because of the color and taste of those shadow or highlight areas. (I mean it can look better than the well exposed shot) When you recover a highlight it looks more flat so it's great for skin, when you recover shadows then highlight look more dynamic and contrasty and saturated (much better for skies), overall even if it's sad thant 6D2 has bad DR, I've never found a situation where I was frustrated, except if i did a bad job myself, I won't blame the device : it's on me.