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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 พ.ค. 2024
- These are the NBA's three biggest choke artists: Doc Rivers, Joel Embiid & James Harden. These three have been responsible for some of the biggest playoff collapses Along the way, many playoff series were lost because of these three NBA figures. And in today's video, we'll explore these playoff chokes one by one.
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 - Magic Misstep
00:05:50 - Un-Lucky Stretch
00:10:47 - Boston Juggernauts
00:18:17 - Losing Their Luster
00:27:32 - LeBron's Revenge
00:34:07 - A Fresh Start
00:39:52 - Blowing Leads
00:44:23 - Glen & James Exposed
00:52:18 - Insults To Injuries
00:57:30 - Repeated Patterns
01:10:14 - Clipper Bubble Bursting
01:15-59 - Utter Collapse
01:24:29 - Lacking Accountability
01:32:01 - Same Team, Same Story
01:37:52 - More Tea Spilled
01:44:53 - Last Chance
01:50:52 - Unacceptable Condition - กีฬา
Yo I love your work. Please lose this laugh track it's painful on the ears
Yeah I know I've seen comments of people saying the same thing. I was experimenting with it & I won't use it again moving forward
@@tooforwon241 you know I love your comedy. That one just was a bit over the top. Keep bringing your same style though!
UPDATE: it's now being trimmed out from the intro. TH-cam said it'll take a few hours to process this so be patient
@@tooforwon241 I was just about to leave a comment asking if I was tripping or not when i retwatched the vid lol. I thought it was pretty funny
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"A Toronto Raptors fan's 2-hour dissertation on why Doc Rivers should not be hired as the next Head Coach."
NOOOOOO PLEASE GOD NO!
As a suns fan hearing that doc was our second choice behind Frank Vogel nearly gave me a stroke during the head coach search
@@donnyg9993god luck with Vogel 😂😂😂😂
@@AH-tq1tjaye at least frank actually tryna win a ring doc be trynna only let one guy be the star
I thought the same thing, bro. My thought was "Anybody but Doc."
Doc Rivers should just go back to coaching bad teams. The playoffs are clearly exposing his flaws as a coach.
The most overrated future hall of famer for anything
@king Lightning he wasn't even a hall of famer
People called him top5 in history when he won the chamoionship
Which was clearly overrated
At least we'll always have Doc Rivers memes
His reputation mainly comes from outperform when coaching bad team, zero expectations.
No coach has leveraged 1 year coaching a super team as well as Doc Rivers. Take that 2008 ring away and he an average coach at best
I love the way you tell the story. It’s like you don’t know what’s gonna happen next. You living in the moment and it makes it easy for a viewer like me to engage and live in that same moment haha 😂
I like that he builds it up as if we don't already know what's going to happen and then in comes the, "Oh... oh no." Lol
Truth, this dude can make a 6 hour video that holds my interest
@@ramprat5812 fr, the Kyrie video is 4 hours and I can't tell you how many times I've watched it
“It’s not like you let a player score fifty in a game 7. Like that’s ever gonna happen right?” 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Fr great storytelling. I never watch videos this long about sports besides this dude lol
It's impressive that my Celtics really tried to give them the series and the Sixers still lost. Man they would have been smoked in the Conference Finals even worse than us
You lost to an 8 seed calm down
@@ActuallySmitty I mean like I said, we got smoked. Being down 3-0 was embarrassing. Losing Game 7 that way was embarrassing. I'm just saying, they would somehow have done worse
@@ActuallySmitty They are right if you lose to a team that's actively sabotaged themselves at every turn while up 3-2 that makes you even worse, Celtics finally got what they deserved but Philly is even softer
I’m a heat fan so if we go up 3-0 against the sixers it’s a sweep
@@SonOfJudah2002 I would literally bet my house on that sweep happening no cap. 3 biggest choke artists down 0-3?? I would take out a loan from a certified loan shark that's known for breaking knee caps when you can't pay, and bet all that shiet on that mf sweep
This whole damn video deserves a "Chef's Kiss"! Between the timeline, editing and narration. He made me remember why I'm a NBA fan!! Excellent work!
WOW so generous of you to donate! And thank you for the incredible support man 🧡
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7-6ers actually refers to the number of games it usually takes them to blow a series lead
What’s this mean?
@@holdmyweight3597they either lose in game 7 or game 6
Eric spoelstra being ranked under doc is ridiculous
Agreed, that is BS. How long has Spoelstra been the head coach of the Heat now?? Clearly there's a reason Pat (Riley) decided to keep him around even when they hit potholes. Doc for whatever reason is allergic to the conference finals...all these teams he's had and only one championship to show for it?? Gimme Spoelstra every time.
Doc Rivers is the only coach in NBA history to blown a 3-1 lead three times in his career
1:00:29
Jimmy is a true man. Embiid has done nothing but throws teammates under the bus. So does Doc.
As someone from Philly
Your right
For me quote from him about "not winning alone" marked the beginning of the end of the progress
Jokic is the REAL MVP
Yeah. Perkins with his fake racism card scared the voters. And it's bullshit. I'm the first one to talk about systemic racism and internalized racism etc. And if you want to talk about executive's and coaches who aren't part of the old boys network not getting a fair shake I'm all ears. But not the awards. I'd anything I'm guilty of being racist towards white players and I think the media and culture accepts it more than is ideal. But overall it's not something that affects white people the way racism vs black people affects them. Except on an individual level and not as a group, which sucks for Jokic. He'll be fine of course. I think Embiiid is a baby who complains and cries about everything. He's not a winner. The way he laughed after trying to take the other centre head off that used to play for Cleveland and fake apologizing was just classless. Do it with your boys, sure. But not on a stage it's just so disrespectful.
You could argue Doc Rivers’ history of choking started when the Magic was close to signing Tim Duncan but turned em down because Doc told him he couldn’t bring family on the plane. Can’t make this shit up
You gotta be kidding me. I would give Tim his own private jet for his family if he wanted it.
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Outside of 76er fans, I feel bad for anyone that took this team seriously
I feel bad for Sixers fans in general. In game 7, Tatum and Brown both individually scored more than Harden and Embiid combined.
Granted hindsight is 20/20 but they blew every draft pick post-Embiid.
Took Jalil Okafor over Booker and Porzingis.
Took Simmons over Jaylen Brown and Ingram
Took Fultz over Tatum, Fox, Mitchell, Markannen.
Signed Harris over Butler.
Imagine Embiid with Butler and any 2 out of Tatum, Brown, Booker, Mitchell, Fox or even Markannen or Porzingis...and maybe still end up with Maxey as well.
That would most likely be an ACTUAL contender even with Doc trying to give away series' leads. At the very least they'd make it at least to the ECF 2 or 3 times.
I don’t understand how Sixers fans took them seriously. They are delusional. I’m a Sixers fan and I really had no interest watching all year, because I knew deep down we’d blow it in the end. Hard to get excited for that. I wish we’d just trade Embiid already, obviously trade Harden too and start focusing on Maxey and the future.
Love your hours long videos, hope this one gets millions of clicks again, you deserve it!
No one deserves anything
@@sonnymp1337 🤓
As a Kobe fan, that “anything is possible!!!” Clip still hurts 😂
Doesn't hurt as bad as Kyrie's shot in 2016 for Warriors fans.
@@blue-phoenix115 f the warriors 🔦🟣
@@ducknuts6146 light that L 🔦
I feel the exact opposite as a Celtics fan.
@@blue-phoenix115idk, that shot indirectly leaded to kd joining em, creating the dynasty...
embiid deserves more attention about this: 5/18 in game 7 this year, 7/24 in game 6 last year, 8 turnovers in game 7 against the hawks, 6/18 in game 7 against toronto. 9.4 ppg drop off from his regular season to postseason average this season. yikes
Well that's under doc rivers
And the old coach
@@keafe4748 Are you really blaming Doc for Embibaby being a monster choker during playoffs? 🤡
@@pyotrbagration2438 lol watch the vid he literally goes over how doc makes no adjustments... 3/4 of embiid playoff years were under Doc.
it makes sense. He can't bait fouls in playoffs like he can in regular season. Free throws are the true source of his high regular season ppg.
A big issue is he gets blown out in all these do or die games. The only one I noticed that was close near the end was the Hawks game.
Doc’s main issues are he can’t adjust, he doesn’t take any accountability, & tied to that he throws players/others under the bus.
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Shoutout to tooforwon for these long hour videos! Keep it up!!
dude, I would give a thousand likes if I could. You managed to edit and put all this together in a two hour masterpiece.
Respect. You're a hero!
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@@holdmyweight3597 i do, and I'm squirting all over the place.
Cringe asf
Video blows anyways
The way you weave all the narratives is fantastic and very entertaining. Great video
“It’s not like you let a player score fifty in a game 7. Like that’s ever gonna happen right?” 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
I’m glad you brought up the 6ers game 7 against the hawks. Even after the Ben Simmons pass up there was 3:30 left in the game. Embiid choked in the last few possessions but they wanted to scapegoat Ben. Not saying that Ben didn’t deserve a lot of responsibility (because he did) i just like how we ignored for the longest the turnover in the final minute by Embiid and missed shots after the Ben pass up.
"at least you didn't let lebron score fifty in a game seven. like that's ever gonna happen right?"
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shoutout to you bro, you brought all the receipts
Damn, you have an eye for detail
This is another amazing documentary
Thibs: Hey Doc, we're up 35 in the 4th. Shouldn't we pull our starters?
Doc: Do you know who I am?! Do you know how many 3-1 leads I'm about to blow?! I ain't taking any chances.
Getting outcoached by stan van gundy, joe mazzulla and nate mcmillan are 3 unforgivable sins and he somehow did them all in 1 lifetime
Your commentary documentaries are so damn good bro 👏. You’re definitely one of my favorite TH-camrs. Long form content is GOATed. Please never stop uploading. I’m genuinely bewildered as to why you don’t have a million subs yet.
I think it might have to do with me not showing my face. But also I'm not going to be discouraged by the sub count. That's not why I make these vids in the first place
@@tooforwon241 can you do AD why is he not consistent?
21:33 KG looked so disgusted with Ray’s 0 of 7 3pt shooting 😂😂😭😭
You've earned my subscription. This video must have took forever to put together and I appreciate hard work when I see it
This video was actually very well put together. I couldn’t believe it was two hrs when I got done, didn’t feel like it at all! New sub 👍
Tooforwon the best NBA youtuber ever the dude never misses.
Love your hour long videos bro
Keep it up
This was a very great documentary, i enjoyed every minute of this.
What an excellent documentary! Clearly Jokic is by far better than Embiid especially looking at playoff results.
love these videos man really happy you uploaded ❤
Yes!!! i got something to watch before the finals
Thanks Man, hitting the like on trust alone
This was low key funny bro, one of my favortie basketball youtubers.
one of the best videos i’ve ever seen very well put together
The three superstars of Choking 😂😂
I love this video for one reason in particular:
I'm a CP3 fan, and listen. I am NOT saying he doesn't have his share of bad playoff performances. I keep it real. HOWEVER, the fact is that for the entirety of Chris's prime, he was saddled with either Doc or James, and as soon as he was free of both of them, he made his first Finals ever. Coincidence? I think not.
That year that the Harden "led" Rockets almost beat the peak Warriors? IMO CP3 deserves retroactive props for getting them there.
Paul for sure deserves retroactive props. And I would argue he's unluckier than a Harden with how he often gets injured in the playoffs. Harden's track record in elimination games speak for themselves
@@tooforwon241 You're smarter than most. Most basketball fans I know absolutely hate him and clown on his playoff performances all the time just because his teams happened to lose. Basketball fans are stupid.
Dropped everything I was doing to watch this video as soon as I saw it was over an hour 😭 I love these videos! It’s like watching a movie
Bruv, these are are the best NBA coverage videos on the yewtoobz rn. Keep it up my g, subbed and supporting 🫡
Please do more long videos like this! I loved every second. Perfect editing thb.
I was waiting for this video. Your the 🐐
I loved rewatching the sixers collapse lmao
Great vid. So much fun
“Please! Do not do this, do not make me cry please!” lol! I’m with you on that one bro. If they hire Rivers, I’m done, the trust is gone.
He’d be fine for the Raptors. For whatever fucking reason, every time he’s given a lottery team with no star, the team over performs and get wins they aren’t expected to and sneak their way into the playoffs
@@weebtrash3376 A baskeball channel summed it up perfectly: "Doc Rivers raises the floor, but lowers the ceiling for a team." No way he is on all-time coaches level...
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ur funny af and i love the way u tell a story, like im talking to my friend 😂 keep up the good work love ya man 🙂
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Fate is cruel putting top crucial moment underperformers together. Doc have coached them all: James, Joel and Chris. But then, I have this feeling that people who cracks under pressure like to stick together, if they work or play with real hard heads, they won't feel comfortable and would leave sooner or later.
Jimmy Butler made the 76ers uncomfortable
Fr, you post some of the only content that I can watch and enjoy for an hour+, and the delivery of your reactions to some of the more ridiculous situations and statements made throughout the league are hilarious.
Thank you for this
Been waiting for this😤
1:55:01 even in full context what he said was bizarre. You can’t stink up the stadium & 2 players score more than you & you say you can’t do it alone. If he’d scored 40 + 15 rebounds & the rest of the team sucked, even then, as a leader & MVP he still has to take the hit.
I was not notified that you uploaded. I had to watch this 3 days late lol
Man that's unfortunate. TH-cam is really good at not doing its job. Even when you click on the bell it doesn't do its job. Weird
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Amazing video my man
Blessing us w a two hour 🙏
Great vid man love your vids and I can't wait for the jokic special if he wins the chip
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You have got to be the funniest basketball channel on youtube lol.. Thanks for putting so much into these videos and making me laugh
Ironically watching this after Doc Rivers hamstrung the Bucks, the Lakers drying up again, the Sixers failing again, and the Clippers rusting out.
It's like Groundhog Day for the NBA.
bro you deserve your flowers! well put together, u really be having me watch your 2 hour videos lol
Man, enjoyed this, thank you. Spurs have always been my team, but omg I loved Lob City Clippers. I lost all trust in Doc after that
Fun video to watch, especially as a Nuggets fan. +New Sub.
Why is this video not with 1M?, best of the rest by far! Great job man
At first I didn’t know what route you were taking this video on…..but it all made sense at the end. This was brilliant!
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This is some of your finest work
Beautiful video
The year before getting KG was my favorite year watching the Celtics. They only won like 18 games or something and Pierce was out most of the season, but watching Rondo just work magic and pass like I had never seen on my favorite team was really fun, and watching Perkins and Al Jefferson bang in the paint was beautiful to watch. They weren't a very good team, but they were so fun to watch and every win was like winning the championship.
49:29 Harden was definitely hungover 🤣🤣
Glad you're back bro.
Do a Celtics one too. That team been choking since 2017😂😂😂
Wait a few days and he'll be able to do a Heat choking video too hahahahaha
EDIT: It'll actually be worse than the Celtics too.. TWO finals chokes and one East Finals choke.. Celtics went to game 6 in finals, and became 4th team ever to force game 7 after going down 0-3 in East Finals... The Heat will be waaaayyyy worse chokers after Jokic and Nuggets probably SWEEP them...
@@Ebstarrunner how are they chokers if they never were ahead in those series? how would they EVER be considered chokers against the nuggets as an 8th seed vs a 1 see? sounds like a salty celtics fan crying about his team sucking when it counts 😂
@@Ebstarrunner this didnt age well, you sound like a Jokic 🐓rider. Without Murray scoring 30 pts they took an L.
@@Ebstarrunnerthe heat just plain out worked your team bruh and now they're outworking the Nuggets
@@ducknuts6146bro was just chatting
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You couldve made this another hour longer by focusing on specifically on Chris paul and his role in these choke jobs along with his blown 2-0 series leads against the Spurs in 2008, against Memphis in 2013, the 2021 finals
Honestly I could've, but the video was already long enough. And Chris Paul will probably get a video of his own in the future
i loved this video.. top bins
Thank you for another great video with an amazing edit and collecting all these awesome footage. Keep up the great work!
bro that earrape at the beginning was .5 secs away from clicking off lmaoo much respect g
I can't wait 4 da Nuggets video u make after they win da finals. Dat video will be iconic. 🔥🔥🔥
Who else remembers the laughing at the beginning of the video 1:52:00
The goat back
SAS'S. defense of doc and hatred for mike dantoni is truly disgusting
Gracias algoritmo por mostrarme este increíble trabajo de recopilación y análisis. Excelente narración
This video is already a classic
8:40 lifelong celtics fan here and i remember watching that game. That dunk was NASTY. The couple years before the big 3 was really tough and when they got Allen and KG was just the perfect storm. The 3 guys just complimented each other so good and KG brought a defensive mentality to the entire team. We also had some great role players like Rondo, big baby, eddie house, Terry allen and leon Powe. I loved those teams!
Hey 👋 too, I love your content and I'm a 38 year old retired homeowner. Love from Chicago bro
The narration is hilarious, the sarcasm is on point. Hard not to laugh
Love your videos man, keep up the great work we all appreciate it 🔥🔥🫡
God prime TMac was so nice
26:00 The end of the finals where the Lakers beat the Celtics, seeing Rondo take the final 2 3 pointers, even hitting the first, taught me that is what happens late in big games.
To win close games late you are forced to have your weakest scorer/shooter put up points. When the game is tight it's usually because the stars don't have it that night and/or the team is clamped down, and they get away with that clamp by allowing the weakest link to have to beat them. It's an age old strategy and the reason why teams with a lot of star power fail in the playoffs consistently. If you want to win in the NBA you need a minimum of 5 guys who can get buckets and open up the whole game. They don't have to be shooters, but they need to be a threat from wherever they play from. Otherwise it all comes down to Rondo chucking 3's under duress and your season is over.
Doc is a player's coach. He did well when he had the Celtics with guys like KG and Pierce and Allen who were vets that were dying to win and knew what they were doing. Philly needed a guy to be an X and O coach never they never had that (remember Brett Brown saying that putting 4 shooters around Embiid would be "too easy to guard").
These three were made for each other
That ECF was nuts....James wasn't loud, no fist pumping, no screaming, no powder toss....
Thanks for putting all the chokers in their place. They all choked individually, and choked massively as a collection.