@@mikeanglada742 Thanks,...you know what Spike Taterman and Mike Anglada. I'm going to do a video today in about 20 min's about slapping and how I got started. Real talk. I hope you guys see this video. Thanks fellah's. :D
Renatokun,...I just replied to a guy on here noahmattie. I work a lot on the road. Tractor trailer driver. NY about 6 days a week. Just today I was thinking of making a new video. I think by you guys asking to do one. I think I am going to find some parts and tell one of my secrets to you guys. I always my friends to save money for the "COST EFFECTIVE" way to keep your basses instead of buying that "EXPENSIVE" bass, that sets you back a lot of months. Thanks for such kind word my friend. I highly appreciate it. Coop' Bass "4" Life. 🙂
Thanks so much for this video. After 40 years of playing, an accident has forced me to become a lefty. I have found the search for lefty basses to very tough. Looking to add a bass for travel and these are the choices in front of me. Your video was perfect. Many thanks
Noah my man,...thanks. I really need to do more video's soon. I've been working so much,....I'm a tractor trailer driver. I go to NY about 6 days a week. Sunday's are usually my rest time, I'll find some way to post something just for kicks. You're not the only person who has been asking me to do more video's. I'll see what I can come up with today. I've actually been thinking of a video to make just today. Yes, it crossed my mind today. Thank you my man. I highly appreciate you. Now, you got me really thinking of putting something together. Thanks, Coop' Bass "4" Life. :D
Musicfreak,... I prefer the"RAY4". It just sounds stronger than "RAY34". My first bass ever was a 77' Fender jazz. String axe. I'm use to the strong presence, plus I'm from "PHILLY!". RAISED ON FUNK, GOSPEL FUNK, JAZZ FUNK, SLOW FUNK. Everything is "FUNK!". Lol!
You are beasting on any bass you play. Awesome Brother. I'm from right across the bridge in Camden. Mainly on the gospel scene but appreciate all grooves. I have a Squire Fender jazz 4 string I think it's a 1988, I have in Alvarez 6 string bass and I just Bought an Ibanez GSR205 5 string. I bought these bases in the past because I always wanted to have a bass available whenever I had a gospel church gig and my bass player was without his axe. I am primarily a keyboard Player and just decided To dust off these basses and learn how to play. Now all I need to do is learn from the master , do you ever give online lessons? Or is there anyone You would refer? Those cats at Guitar Center can't play anything like you do lol . At any rate I really enjoy your videos bro and keep doing these demo videos even though you make it hard to choose the right bays because you play so well all of them. Peace brother. 🎵🎹🎵🎹🎶
I have had my SUB Ray4 for a little over a year. I just love it! It's got so much attitude and punch and growl, it's wonderful. It plays easy too. I switched out the hardware and bridge on mine and now it's even better. I couldn't be happier. I will recommend the Ray4 always.
11coopbass Cooper well my friend......I want to learn how to play.....I've been researching basses and I really think the ray34 is worth the money.....I thought it had a cleaner sound......I really enjoyed your playing.....👍👍👍👍
@@christophermay4998 i think the ray 34 sounded cleaner because of it had less bass, but if i where you i would just get the 300 dollar bass and put some Seymour Duncan's or bartolinis in it
@@rudolphdrasler2697 Its like every low priced instrument. Some will be real good, some mediocre ones, and some turds. You have to put in some time and check some basses out (or have to be lucky for the first shot) to find a "real good one". Even the Ray 34 series has better and not so good pieces. The high end series of MusicMan StingRay basses has lots of good ones- and some that are stellar.
What a great video! That's some jam too. I picked up a sub4, getting back into bass after a number of years in school. I'm on a bit of a budget and I couldn't believe how well the sub4 plays and sounds at that price point. Not a lot of companies making this quality for this price, that's for sure.
K M,...why thank you so much. I highly appreciate it boss. I'm still learning as you are. I need help to in my playing. I'm also just having some fun playing bass whenever I can. Thanks againl . :D
@@KM-px8cs Aaaah! Ok! Now you know some bass companies will make you a "SPECIAL" customized bass to fit your hands. USA models come at a very "HIGH" price. The "CHINESE" come at a very low price. The choice is yours, if you do decide to have you a custom made bass, made. You might want to give that some thought. :D
These Sub 4 's are really packing some firepower, the more I hear them, the more impressed I am. They strike me as the instrument you can buy on a budget, improve the rough bits over time either by DIY or upgrade (still with budget in mind) and have a very nice and bespoke instrument at the end of the whole exercise. No bad thing in my book.
Jay,...Sorry about the late, late response. Yes,...once you plug into a mixing board, all bets are off. You can set your tone you want. Basically, you don't have to actually have a real stingray to get that "1976 TO 1981 stingray sound. The mixing board can help you get as close a possible. Ya' feel me? : D
Mykl,...glad that I have inspired somebody. Thanks for the comment. I highly appreciate it. I learned by lifting the needle off of a (get this), a "SANYO" combo stereo turntable. By raising a turntable needle up every (2) to (3) bars/measures. Also, my brother and a friend "DON TYSON". Larry Graham from Graham Central Station, Foxy, Twenty Nine featuring Lenny White. Sergio Mendez & Brazil 77, Louis Johnson, Gary Grainger, Yutaka(FREDDIE WASHINGTON), church bass playing, Ray Parker, Jr, Jaco, Stanley Clark, Will Lee( Spyra Gyro), Anthony Jackson (The O'Jays), Danny Wilson (JEFF Lorber Fusion- back in the day), The Yellow Jackets, etc. 😁
Yep! I learned the same way too! Hear a funky bassline on the radio 1977-1982...go buy the 45 record, keep playing it til you learn the changes! Then call your lil brother in once you got it down pat so he praise your funky self!
Henry Cortez,..."COOP'!" I'm so sorry about the late, late, late, late response. Thank you. I highly appreciate it. Yes, the manufacturer of these cost effective Chinese instruments are stunning these days. They save you a heck of a lot of money, and you get the same tone in some of these "COST EFFECTIVE" instruments. : D
Given that I just got over Covid, I’m glad that I was here to get your response! Fortunately it really wasn’t that bad for me! Thanks the response just the same COOP!!! Keep on killing it!
I have that exact same Ray4 and absolutely love it. I have friends that have the Music Man Stingray and they always wanna play my Sub. I see no real difference in tone or feel at all.
James,...I'm so sorry about the late, late, late, late, late, late response. Well, if you ever get a chance to play a "REAL" 70's music man stingray, to the early 80's. You'll change your mind about theses "CHINESE" replica's. A real 1976 to 1981 stingray bass is a "KILLAH!!!!. Believe that,...man! : D
I came here looking for a new bass and now I'm thinking I need a new bass technique altogether. Great playing man!!!! I wish I could be as good as you someday
You can,...all you have to do is, get you one of those "CHEAT" machines. Sabine has this little device that slows down the riff that you want to learn and it keeps it in the key that the original riff is, once you slow it down without losing its pitch. Now, here's the "SECRET" to really doing what you see me doing in this video. First, you have to "DISCIPLINE" yourself. Then,... listen to the riff that you want to learn and record it to the device, play it back over and over and over until you can't take it anymore, (lol!). Now, here's the "KEY" Ready? DO THE RIFF "SLOWLY and CORRECTLY". "SLOWLY AND CORRECTLY" "NOTE FOR NOTE" "EVERY LITTLE DETAIL YOU HEAR IN THAT RIFF!!!!!!!!" You have to "MEMIC" that riff to the "T!!!!" As the riff gets easier for you, then you can speed it up. Speed it up until you get the "ORIGINAL" riff speed under your fingers and from there you can take flight. That it. : D
Thank you, thank you, thank you! Finally, somebody did a demo playing these basses the way some of us WANT to hear them played. You're a killer bassist. Thanks for showing how they CAN sound. I see no reason not to scoop up a Ray4.
Man I came expecting to find a review filled with useless comparisons, but you just let the music do the talking. I appreciate this, I came for the review and ended up finding a funky jam to groove to. Thanks!
Hey man you are great dude and really helped put confidence in my purchase of the Ray4. Was worried i didn't spend enough and quality wouldnt be there but i'm hearing so many good things. And seeing that slap-pop... damn dude youre fire. Peace from the North-East
xTJBX,...Thank you so much. Glad I could help, help you make a decision. These "COST EFFECTIVE" stingrays are a "BEAST!" I have mine hanging on the wall, waiting to get played some day soon. Lol!
I've just been looking into both of these basses...but after this video I could easily pull up a stool and watch you play just to learn your technique!! Very nice...just subscribed!
Love both basses and your playing was truly amazing! Thinking of getting a Sub 4 or Squier vintage jazz. This video has me leaning sterling now. Thanks Coop. You rock.
Ouch! Aaren. This is so far from the date you pinched me on this. I am so sorry about the late, late, late, late, late, late response. Heck, I hope that you are still around and that everything is going well with you and your family. Sheeeesh! I'm messed up. Much respect Aaren. Much respect. : D
@@11coopbasscooper55 LOL No problem Coop! Im still here everything is fine. I apprrciate the hit back. Still watching your vids. I have a channel also. Take a look if you could when you get a chance.
The more expensive bass DOES seem to play better, and I'm sure the extra EQ control makes the array of sound possibilities more subtle and versatile. But the SUB will certainly get the job done in most applications. Both quite nice!
Frodohotep,...sorry about this late, late response. Yes, the SUB sure would get the job done. I totally agree. I like the SUB sound a little better. It just seems stronger to me. : D
Why thanks, Kev. I still play, just haven't been uploading video's. I'm a tractor and trailer driver. Hours of driving and I'm not a young buck anymore. I also caught the "COVID" thingy. Lol! I'll do something soon. Thanks for your inspiration. : D
Dude you are sick with the thump game on the bass Sir,, I'm a fan,,I'm a drummer and just picked up the Sub ray 4 and got my strings changed to the Diadorio flat wound. I truly aspire to play like that so if you could I'm quite sure like me other beginner's out there would really like for you to do another video and technique on slap bass .
I'm 4 years late and I'm so sorry about that. A lot has happened in 4 years with me. Wife passed away 4 years ago, sister passed 3 years ago, 2 nephews passed away 1-5 years ago and the other 3 years ago. It's been a mess. Now, life goes on, oh wait! My niece passed away about 3 months ago. So, one of my sister and her 2 children, that whole family are deceased. They are long gone. Hey, it happens. So, I think it time for me to get back up on the video "HORSE" and start riding again. Lol! I also caught that "COVID" thingy too. Thanks for asking me to do so,...sorry about the late, late, late, late response. : D
Zeropaun,... I thought I was the only one who realized that! The Ray4 seems stronger and a lot darker than the Ray34, which I like the more heavier tone. ☺
Oh my!! That is simply some of the best slap bass I’ve ever heard, seriously I’m blown away dude! Keep on being funky and best wishes from the UK 😎👌🏼🇬🇧🇺🇸
Yes,...the SUB 5 is also a beast. Well,...in my opinion. It's kind of close. I'm so sorry about the late, late, late, response as well. Thank you so much. : D
Danny my man. Thanks dude. It's the closet door knob thingy. That's where all that speed comes from. 30 minutes a day for about (1) year. Unconsciously doing it. It's crazy. : D
It's the "HARDWARE" and the "BRIDGE" and the "PICKUP". The ray 4 has a "PASSIVE" pickup and the hardware is probably not a "THICK" in material. The woods should play a part in the "TONE" as well. The ray34 has an "ACTIVE" pickup. Bassically, Sterling is saying; the ray34 can get you real close to the "ORIGINAL" STINGRAY'S tone. So, you're gonna have to the pay that "CLOSE" to the original sound "PRICE". :D
@@hdrjunkie Both have a 9v battery. That's only because the basses have an onboard preamp inside the body. The pickups themselves have different internal parts. That makes the sound difference.
Wait! Hold up Dr. Doug. I'm so late, I might as well be absent. I saw the "LEGACY" but never got around to it. Now the pandemic is on our shoulders. I can't go to any GUITAR CENTERS in my area due to closing for now. I know it's the "BOMB!!!!" Ouch! I'm sitting here texting and imagining me with (3) of those combo at a gig! Killah, I do believe. Lol! Thanks for the info bruddah! : D
I have the SUB and i've tried the Ray 34 and honestly I prefer my SUB not just because I own it but because the feel of it, even compared to some actual Stingrays mine feels better in the hand. With some electronics upgrades it will sound even better and I would still be well under the $850 mark let alone the $1,200 mark of a real Stingray.
I find it interesting that the Sub Ray Four is active and affordable. I'm a finger player and a pick player. I'm currently learning slap on my own. But I don't think I can get that good at slap. So I want an active bass to get a higher low end sound. I currently have a short scale classic vibe Jaguar.
You can do better than me. Just practice slowly and correctly. That's the name of the game. Oh, and be patient with it. Take your time. Speed will come. : D
I've noticed on most of these bass demos when the player starts to slap, it's 99% of the time in the key of E. Why? Because most of the slapping is melodic to the open E string. Now what would be a feat is to slap in G or F# for your demo. You do play the slap style well. We all have our niche that we play. Thank you for doing a demo on this great bass.
I thought that the second bass was a beast especially with the crisp sound and smoother tones but not enough to justify such a big price difference .....I'll take the first bass even though I like the second one a little more and keep the extra cash lol
keedy,...sorry about the late response. As you know. Both basses can get elected in the purchasing department. Lol! "THAT'S RIGHT!" Cost effective instruments can get the job done as well. Lol! : D
Both sound good but which one you think is more "solid" and can be setup properly? With some affordable basses it can be hard to get the action I want without buzzing because some can get a bit of back bow.
I know I am 3 years late. A lot of musicians don't know, once you plug a bass into an interface and then into a mixer, you basically can make the bass sound like anything that comes to your mind. Usually, an instrument going though your onstage equipment is for your to monitor, the audience hears what's going through the mixing board. So, they really can here what you hear on stage. So, don't get too caught up into this bass is better than that bass. Stop the press. It's really ''HOW WELL YOU CAN PLAY". Real talk. : D
Man!!!!! You are good!!!! I feel like packing my bass up after that!!! But then the inspiration kicked in!!! So, laterz!! I gotta go practice!!!!🎶🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊🎶😁👍🏾
@@11coopbasscooper55 Gig bags....you know....Mono vs. Reunion vs. Gator etc....Somewhat concerned about space for the G string tuning peg in a bag. Any suggestions are appreciated.
@@whatsitwhosit well,...gator should be just fine for one of these basses. Those other bass gig bags are a lot of money. Reunion's and Mono would probably cost more that the actual "STERLING" bass. Lol! Sometimes you can just settle for a well crafted bass gig bag for less money. Heavily padded one too. : D
I sold my sub and bought a classic dual h used. I found for me that with my sub the mids and highs were sometimes unpleasant and you would of course then fiddle and it would eventually sound great. I think a sub base used is a great bargain buy! And I thought that new sterling here sounded pretty great! Cool vid!
Thanks Ken,...sorry about the late, late, late response. Hey, all instruments are good to some point. Even the new up to date versions basses have issues. I can't complain. It is a very good used "COST EFFECTIVE" bass for the money. You are so correct. I agree. : D
Nice sounding demo of this bass, I had seen this video several times yes I love this Sterling by Musicman bass both of them got great clean sound. Master the instrument is my advice to the younger folks, don't worry about the best instrument. That's why these basses come in handy incase you may not want to play bass anymore they are not that expensive.
I like the Ray4, its got a fat sound, the sound is almost a cross between the Sabre & a Stingray! The body even reminds me of the Sabre, a little more narrow than the Stingray body. I've owned all of them and the SUB has a great sound and is very comfortable to play. Btw, you sound good!
Sir Rick Barnes,...I am so sorry about the late, late, late, late response. You're probably laughing right now. Lol! Sabre and a Stingray huh? I have to look at them together. You might be right. All of them,...wow! You're a Stingray believer. That's great! Yes,...the S.U.B do sound stronger. Yes it is very comfortable to play. I totally agree with you. Oh thank my friend for the comment. Thank you. : D
@@11coopbasscooper55 no worries, yes, i was laughing because i forgot about the post and had to revisit it. I'm still thumpin' the SUB, hope you are doing well, take care, & remember the funk!
Which would you recommend for a jazz bass? I do all sorts of different genres such as rock and punk but I need a bass for my jazz band and I want a Sterling
Bro I subscribed to you Iove how u are an old school Larry Graham, Louis Johnson slapper- no-double thumb or tricks just straight talent developed from years of practice with a little nod to god for a little help. As a guy who aspired to be like you but never will be hats off - now I gotta go listen to some Fantastic Voyage by lakeside...
2 years have gone by and I work so much,...it's a pleasure to be able to respond. Well,...I hope now that you have been practicing for 2 years since this reply, you are one bad dude on the bass. (smiles). Playing music is fine, if you have the ability to get good money from doing so. I am a tractor and trailer driver, home remodeling guy. Playing bass does not get me the "BREAD" I make from driving a truck and redesigning homes. So, somethings you have to just let rest for a while. :D
Jim Atyeo,...hey, thanks for the comment. I chase the (1) everytime I play. You know. (1) (2) (3) (4). I just want to make it back to the (1), as clean and quickly as possible. Also, just trying to have some fun. Lol!
That was in the pocket! U made both sing! Better equipment does help but at the end of the day its about the skill behind the instrument, not the instrument itself. I enjoyed the playing, slap on!
Jamie, so sorry about the late, late response. A lot has been going on lately. I'm a tractor and trailer driver. Family members passing, I caught that "COVID" thingy too. It's been a mess. Thanks for the comment. I highly appreciate it. I'm gonna do something soon. : D
@@11coopbasscooper55 no problem! Life happens! I was looking at both those bases to possibly purchase awhile back but ended up doing a Marcus Miller Sire V3 instead. Awesome bass for the money. Either way, glad u made it past the VID!
Well, the ray has a "PASSIVE" bass pickup. While the ray34 has an "ACTIVE" bass pickup. The hardware on the 4 is thinner in quality, while the 34 hardware is thicker in quality. The bridges are different. Materials are different as well. Probably, the preamps are different too. The ray34 woods are probably different and comes with a veneer top as well. So with that being said; you will get a different tone from both basses. Hope the helps answer your question. : D
Yeah Zeropaun,... that's exactly it. That real "STINGRAY" sound. Hey,...you might be familiar with Jeff Lorber. Well, if you listen to the 1st generation of "THE JEFF LORBER FUSION", Danny Wilson was his bass player. Check our the "REAL" sound of "HOW A MUSICMAN STINGRAY" should be really played. I know everybody give it to "LOUIS JOHNSON. But check "DANNY WILSON" wuth "JEFF LORBER FUSION". BACK IN THE LATE 70's. 😊
You are very correct Danny Wilson was the guy for the ultimate music man sound and I was lucky to see him as a young kid and that was the very reason for me to pickup a stingray! I wonder if he is still around?
Glad you like what your ears are absorbing for your taste. That's a good thing for you and you only. I don't knock what others like. (smiles). Through a "GK!" MB115 COMBO. That is it for this video. Nothing else. Everything is "FLAT" on the basses and the bass combo amp. : D
I got myself the ray 4 - this is my second bass because my first one had broken wiring (partially by me and partially by the bad bass itself), it also had a very high action even with the action nuts removed completely. I yet have to try it. About the video, you got some skills there. I can barely play can't stop and my hand gets kinda weak xd
Take that bass to a repair guy if you haven't already got rid of it. Have them lower the action. Thank you for such kind words. I try to do the best I can to make me "HAPPY". Lol! Take it easy. Practice slow and correctly. Speed comes later. : D
@@lapinus oh ok "GEORGE BENSON". I'm not going to let you get away that easy. Lol! You still have to go through the learning process. Practice slowly and correctly. Lol! That's great!!! Just think. You're still a "MUSICIAN". Ha! Ha! You dah maaaan,....bossman! 👌😉
I'm just checking this video out. That SUB sounded tight for the price, but you could really tell the difference when you picked up that Ray 34. Coop you're a straight beast when it comes to that Funk baby "Keep Funk Alive"
1st Sir Shelton Gee. I highly appreciate you checking out the video's. Yes,...that SUB is a killer for the price. I totally agree with you on that. Thank you for such kind words. I will try and do my best to help keep funk alive. Thank you so much. Glad I can make you feel good, bruddah! : D
Mykl Allen,...so sorry about the late, late, late response. Thank you so much for liking how I play. I learned off of Lp's and a mother who made us/ my brother and I. Play our instruments she bought for us,...especially, when we got in trouble. She'd beat us and make us stay in the house for a month in the summertime and made us practice. That was our punishment. Lol! My brother Fred taught me how to play. I was a guitar player at first. I have long fingers. My brother Fred was the bass player. We traded instruments and I became the bass player and he became the guitar player. Its' been that way ever since. I am officially a "bassaholic". Now, practice slowly and correctly. Also, do not worry about how well your friends can play. You have to be your best bassist. Forget Marcus Miller, Victor Wooten, Stanley Clarke, Alain Caron, Adam Nitti, Alex Al just to name a few. Be Mykl. : D 1
Bro, you may want to take a few lessons... JK, very nice stuff! I play guitar but I'm looking to pick up one of these to appease a craving to play bass, as one kid has picked up guitar and the other drums. Being I'll only be a bedroom rock star with them, I cant see dropping $2k for a Music Man (which years ago my friend played and I loved the sound), thus why the Sterling stood out. I'm torn between the Ray 34 and the S.U.B Ray4. The S.U.B. seemed appealing as it has the look and I like the price is rightt but I was concerned on how it played. What are your thoughts on the two? Is the action nice or do you get a lot of the "fret buzz" when playing the Ray4? And what were you playing thru, one of those GK's? I was looking to grab a small Hartke combo. oddly, wathcing your video, the Ray4 (to me) seemed to have a little deeper tone which I like, but the Ray34 seemed cleaner and less distorted. I'll be forced to order online (Gutar Center is a a bit of a drive), so I just don't want to be disappointed with the Ray 4 if its a crummy playing bass, though used they are only $200. Big fan of guys like, Bootsy, Jaco, Stanley Clark, Victor Wooten, & Stewart Hamm, so I need to make sure I sound just like them when I plug this thing in! LOL
I stopped caring about comparing basses about 2 seconds after you started playing..brother, you've got that slap pop funk DOWN!!! Nice!!
Me too! I'd be willing to venture He's Read this Bass before! :D Most Excellent Skills, Sir...
@@mikeanglada742 Thanks,...you know what Spike Taterman and Mike Anglada. I'm going to do a video today in about 20 min's about slapping and how I got started. Real talk. I hope you guys see this video. Thanks fellah's. :D
What this homie said 🤙🏼
Spike Taterman you got me in the first half ngl 🤣
Me too!!!
Boss i know this video is 6 years old but you did an amazing job. Keep making more videos. I hope you been well friend.
Renatokun,...I just replied to a guy on here noahmattie. I work a lot on the road. Tractor trailer driver. NY about 6 days a week. Just today I was thinking of making a new video. I think by you guys asking to do one. I think I am going to find some parts and tell one of my secrets to you guys. I always my friends to save money for the "COST EFFECTIVE" way to keep your basses instead of buying that "EXPENSIVE" bass, that sets you back a lot of months. Thanks for such kind word my friend. I highly appreciate it.
Coop'
Bass "4" Life. 🙂
Thanks so much for this video. After 40 years of playing, an accident has forced me to become a lefty. I have found the search for lefty basses to very tough. Looking to add a bass for travel and these are the choices in front of me. Your video was perfect. Many thanks
Watching this while debating buying the ray4. Just have to say your playing was ice cold dude. Absolutely stellar
Noah my man,...thanks. I really need to do more video's soon. I've been working so much,....I'm a tractor trailer driver. I go to NY about 6 days a week. Sunday's are usually my rest time, I'll find some way to post something just for kicks. You're not the only person who has been asking me to do more video's. I'll see what I can come up with today. I've actually been thinking of a video to make just today. Yes, it crossed my mind today. Thank you my man. I highly appreciate you. Now, you got me really thinking of putting something together. Thanks,
Coop'
Bass "4" Life. :D
Musicfreak,... I prefer the"RAY4". It just sounds stronger than "RAY34". My first bass ever was a 77' Fender jazz. String axe. I'm use to the strong presence, plus I'm from "PHILLY!". RAISED ON FUNK, GOSPEL FUNK, JAZZ FUNK, SLOW FUNK. Everything is "FUNK!". Lol!
Yep. Those Ray 4's sound like Louis Johnson's Original Music Man used on Stomp and Strawberry Letter 23..
You are beasting on any bass you play. Awesome Brother. I'm from right across the bridge in Camden. Mainly on the gospel scene but appreciate all grooves. I have a Squire Fender jazz 4 string I think it's a 1988, I have in Alvarez 6 string bass and I just Bought an Ibanez GSR205 5 string. I bought these bases in the past because I always wanted to have a bass available whenever I had a gospel church gig and my bass player was without his axe. I am primarily a keyboard Player and just decided To dust off these basses and learn how to play. Now all I need to do is learn from the master , do you ever give online lessons? Or is there anyone You would refer? Those cats at Guitar Center can't play anything like you do lol . At any rate I really enjoy your videos bro and keep doing these demo videos even though you make it hard to choose the right bays because you play so well all of them. Peace brother. 🎵🎹🎵🎹🎶
I have had my SUB Ray4 for a little over a year. I just love it! It's got so much attitude and punch and growl, it's wonderful. It plays easy too. I switched out the hardware and bridge on mine and now it's even better. I couldn't be happier. I will recommend the Ray4 always.
Ser Phalanges,...I know,...right! That jawn is "SLAMMIN'!" Lol!
I like the Ray4. That's being honest. ☺
11coopbass Cooper well my friend......I want to learn how to play.....I've been researching basses and I really think the ray34 is worth the money.....I thought it had a cleaner sound......I really enjoyed your playing.....👍👍👍👍
@@christophermay4998 i think the ray 34 sounded cleaner because of it had less bass, but if i where you i would just get the 300 dollar bass and put some Seymour Duncan's or bartolinis in it
That's surprising as the subs are shit instruments according to many people on forums.
Great thumb work. Clearly from the Louis Johnson school of slap bass!
@@rudolphdrasler2697
Its like every low priced instrument. Some will be real good, some mediocre ones, and some turds.
You have to put in some time and check some basses out (or have to be lucky for the first shot) to find a "real good one".
Even the Ray 34 series has better and not so good pieces.
The high end series of MusicMan StingRay basses has lots of good ones- and some that are stellar.
What a great video! That's some jam too. I picked up a sub4, getting back into bass after a number of years in school. I'm on a bit of a budget and I couldn't believe how well the sub4 plays and sounds at that price point. Not a lot of companies making this quality for this price, that's for sure.
I was more intrigued by your playing than anything else :) you have a new subscriber!
K M,...why thank you so much. I highly appreciate it boss. I'm still learning as you are. I need help to in my playing. I'm also just having some fun playing bass whenever I can. Thanks againl . :D
@@11coopbasscooper55 You're very welcome
@@11coopbasscooper55 Yes it is definitely a learning process, especially when you're a woman playing a bass made for a mens hands like me lol
@@KM-px8cs Aaaah! Ok! Now you know some bass companies will make you a "SPECIAL" customized bass to fit your hands. USA models come at a very "HIGH" price. The "CHINESE" come at a very low price. The choice is yours, if you do decide to have you a custom made bass, made. You might want to give that some thought. :D
Seems like the 34 is just a little brighter and hotter than the 4.....your skills really do them justice. Kudos sir.
Sorry about the late, late response. Wiw! So long ago. Yes, 34 is a lot brighter. Thank you for such a nice comment. I highly appreciate it. :D
Differences between series and parallel wired pickups
I just bought this ray 4 on internet, i was convinced it sounded very good, btw thanks for the review
It does sound good, it's actually better than the 34!
These Sub 4 's are really packing some firepower, the more I hear them, the more impressed I am. They strike me as the instrument you can buy on a budget, improve the rough bits over time either by DIY or upgrade (still with budget in mind) and have a very nice and bespoke instrument at the end of the whole exercise. No bad thing in my book.
Jay,...Sorry about the late, late response. Yes,...once you plug into a mixing board, all bets are off. You can set your tone you want. Basically, you don't have to actually have a real stingray to get that "1976 TO 1981 stingray sound. The mixing board can help you get as close a possible. Ya' feel me? : D
Sorry , I forgot that this was a comparison video after you played those sick solo in both basses. Very clean and nice playing
Not a problem. Thank you so much my friend. : D
The SUB ray4 is my first music man type bass and I love the sound, love this bass. Great video!!
Thanks. Yeah! That SUB is no joke! : D
Mykl,...glad that I have inspired somebody. Thanks for the comment. I highly appreciate it. I learned by lifting the needle off of a (get this), a "SANYO" combo stereo turntable. By raising a turntable needle up every (2) to (3) bars/measures. Also, my brother and a friend "DON TYSON". Larry Graham from Graham Central Station, Foxy, Twenty Nine featuring Lenny White. Sergio Mendez & Brazil 77, Louis Johnson, Gary Grainger, Yutaka(FREDDIE WASHINGTON), church bass playing, Ray Parker, Jr, Jaco, Stanley Clark, Will Lee( Spyra Gyro), Anthony Jackson (The O'Jays), Danny Wilson (JEFF Lorber Fusion- back in the day), The Yellow Jackets, etc. 😁
11coopbass Cooper : you're giving away your age with that technique, Brother, lol! I learned the same way!
Yep! I learned the same way too! Hear a funky bassline on the radio 1977-1982...go buy the 45 record, keep playing it til you learn the changes! Then call your lil brother in once you got it down pat so he praise your funky self!
Dude..... I don't comment ever, but your amazing. I just got the SUB and was kind of weary of my purchase, but that's gone. Keep it real man.
Why thank you my man. I highly appreciate cha'! Yes, keep that bad boy and play it until you can't play it anymore. : D
Dude!! You kick ass! I actually have both basses. The Ray 4 is my go to bass with the other as my #2. Great guitars!
Henry Cortez,..."COOP'!" I'm so sorry about the late, late, late, late response. Thank you. I highly appreciate it. Yes, the manufacturer of these cost effective Chinese instruments are stunning these days. They save you a heck of a lot of money, and you get the same tone in some of these "COST EFFECTIVE" instruments. : D
Given that I just got over Covid, I’m glad that I was here to get your response! Fortunately it really wasn’t that bad for me! Thanks the response just the same COOP!!! Keep on killing it!
I have that exact same Ray4 and absolutely love it. I have friends that have the Music Man Stingray and they always wanna play my Sub. I see no real difference in tone or feel at all.
James,...I'm so sorry about the late, late, late, late, late, late response. Well, if you ever get a chance to play a "REAL" 70's music man stingray, to the early 80's. You'll change your mind about theses "CHINESE" replica's. A real 1976 to 1981 stingray bass is a "KILLAH!!!!. Believe that,...man! : D
@@11coopbasscooper55 believe me I know. About to upgrade to a 78 Stingray
I came here looking for a new bass and now I'm thinking I need a new bass technique altogether. Great playing man!!!! I wish I could be as good as you someday
You can,...all you have to do is, get you one of those "CHEAT" machines. Sabine has this little device that slows down the riff that you want to learn and it keeps it in the key that the original riff is, once you slow it down without losing its pitch. Now, here's the "SECRET" to really doing what you see me doing in this video. First, you have to "DISCIPLINE" yourself. Then,... listen to the riff that you want to learn and record it to the device, play it back over and over and over until you can't take it anymore, (lol!). Now, here's the "KEY" Ready? DO THE RIFF "SLOWLY and CORRECTLY". "SLOWLY AND CORRECTLY" "NOTE FOR NOTE" "EVERY LITTLE DETAIL YOU HEAR IN THAT RIFF!!!!!!!!" You have to "MEMIC" that riff to the "T!!!!" As the riff gets easier for you, then you can speed it up. Speed it up until you get the "ORIGINAL" riff speed under your fingers and from there you can take flight. That it. : D
I just bought a Ray35 today and this popped up in my suggested videos. My phone is listening haha. Great playing my dude!
Ray35! Got one of those too. Nice axe. Thank you bossman. : D
Thank you, thank you, thank you! Finally, somebody did a demo playing these basses the way some of us WANT to hear them played. You're a killer bassist. Thanks for showing how they CAN sound.
I see no reason not to scoop up a Ray4.
Yes,...I'm glad that I can help you and your ears make that RAY4 choice. : D
Man I came expecting to find a review filled with useless comparisons, but you just let the music do the talking. I appreciate this, I came for the review and ended up finding a funky jam to groove to. Thanks!
You are so welcome. I highly appreciate it. Glad I can put a smile in your heart. Thank you. : D
This is definitely one of the best bass reviews I have seen. I have my eye on a Ray4 and now I am sold.
Sir William,...Coop' here. I highly appreciate it. I hope you bought one and you are still enjoying it. Thank you, : D
Nice demo. Just pulled the trigger and my Ray 4 is on the way. Can’t wait to play some Tower of Power on it with my band.
Thank you my friend. I highly appreciate cha'. Rocco, watch out now. Here comes VGM. LOL!
Hey man you are great dude and really helped put confidence in my purchase of the Ray4. Was worried i didn't spend enough and quality wouldnt be there but i'm hearing so many good things. And seeing that slap-pop... damn dude youre fire. Peace from the North-East
xTJBX,...Thank you so much. Glad I could help, help you make a decision. These "COST EFFECTIVE" stingrays are a "BEAST!" I have mine hanging on the wall, waiting to get played some day soon. Lol!
I've just been looking into both of these basses...but after this video I could easily pull up a stool and watch you play just to learn your technique!! Very nice...just subscribed!
Vince Bowling,...glad I can help. Hey, take what you can from my playing. Especially if it helps you to become better. ☺
11coopbass Cooper Thanks for the reply...checking out more of your videos as we speak
Love both basses and your playing was truly amazing! Thinking of getting a Sub 4 or Squier vintage jazz. This video has me leaning sterling now. Thanks Coop. You rock.
I can't stand when I see guys like you playing at Guitar Center. It just reinforces the fact that.......
I suck....
GREAT PLAYING and review!!!!!
Hey Coop! Another great review! Once again glad to see you back making videos my friend.
Ouch! Aaren. This is so far from the date you pinched me on this. I am so sorry about the late, late, late, late, late, late response. Heck, I hope that you are still around and that everything is going well with you and your family. Sheeeesh! I'm messed up. Much respect Aaren. Much respect. : D
@@11coopbasscooper55 LOL No problem Coop! Im still here everything is fine. I apprrciate the hit back. Still watching your vids. I have a channel also. Take a look if you could when you get a chance.
@@aarenlockehart9179 Yes,...I sure will check you out,...bruddah! Thanks. : D
@@11coopbasscooper55 No problem, Thanks Coop!
The more expensive bass DOES seem to play better, and I'm sure the extra EQ control makes the array of sound possibilities more subtle and versatile. But the SUB will certainly get the job done in most applications. Both quite nice!
Frodohotep,...sorry about this late, late response. Yes, the SUB sure would get the job done. I totally agree. I like the SUB sound a little better. It just seems stronger to me. : D
Dang that thumb bro. Mad props to you!!!
Thanks again. Lol!
ceramic vs alnico magnets...in my opinion ceramic pickups (SUB) win easily with fat/warmer sound
1:31 sub
4:15 ray34
My first impression as well...
Right! I prefer the StingRays (4 And 5) of the 1990's, they come stock with ceramic pickups - and sound more mighty and punchy.
Ray 4 SUB sounded the best
id prefer the ray34 if it wasn’t so expensive. it had a more classy stingray tone. the sub is definitely a great bass, but i still prefer the ray34
Damn dude I thoroughly enjoyed that. Keep playing man
Why thanks, Kev. I still play, just haven't been uploading video's. I'm a tractor and trailer driver. Hours of driving and I'm not a young buck anymore. I also caught the "COVID" thingy. Lol! I'll do something soon. Thanks for your inspiration. : D
The SUB sounds awesome!!
And you know this,...! :D
Holy smokes you are talented! 😎 Ray4 sounds incredible too. Cheers!
Thank you. I highly appreciate it. Yes, the RAY 4 is a cost effective killer. I totally agree. Thanks again. : D
Dude you are sick with the thump game on the bass Sir,, I'm a fan,,I'm a drummer and just picked up the Sub ray 4 and got my strings changed to the Diadorio flat wound. I truly aspire to play like that so if you could I'm quite sure like me other beginner's out there would really like for you to do another video and technique on slap bass .
I'm 4 years late and I'm so sorry about that. A lot has happened in 4 years with me. Wife passed away 4 years ago, sister passed 3 years ago, 2 nephews passed away 1-5 years ago and the other 3 years ago. It's been a mess. Now, life goes on, oh wait! My niece passed away about 3 months ago. So, one of my sister and her 2 children, that whole family are deceased. They are long gone. Hey, it happens. So, I think it time for me to get back up on the video "HORSE" and start riding again. Lol! I also caught that "COVID" thingy too. Thanks for asking me to do so,...sorry about the late, late, late, late response. : D
Awesome, I ordered the Fiesta Red for $ 254 after your impressive playing. Thanks
There ya' go. Picking yourself up a "LITTLE RED" corvette. Sorry about the late response. : D
Zeropaun,... I thought I was the only one who realized that! The Ray4 seems stronger and a lot darker than the Ray34, which I like the more heavier tone. ☺
I think the main factor here is the 2-band EQ, which makes the Ray4 sounds more like the classic Stingray sound than the Ray 34.
That S.U.B is a bad S.O.B. Gonna go find one, thanks. Appreciate the demo and the playing.
Wow! I'm so late I might as well be absent. Lol! I highly appreciate it. Hope that this video helped you out. Thanks.
You rock dude. Thanks for making and posting this video \m/
Sir Shane,...you are so welcome my man. I highly appreciate it. I just be having fun on all of my basses. Take care my man. Thank you. : D
Great playing and review with not too many words. I like the Ray4, but ended up buying the Ray24CA at $350 a few days ago.
Don H,...thank you. I highly appreciate it. Ray24CA,...$350?!!! Man, you got over, big time!!!! They are some nice "COST EFFECTIVE" instruments. : D
Oh my!! That is simply some of the best slap bass I’ve ever heard, seriously I’m blown away dude! Keep on being funky and best wishes from the UK 😎👌🏼🇬🇧🇺🇸
Esoteric,...I highly appreciate cha'. I'm so sorry about the late, late, late response. I try. I try to be my best at what I can do. Thanks. : D
11coopbass Cooper hey dude no worries at all. Wishing you all the best and stay safe in these strange times that we’re living through right now.
I have the sub 5 string, sounds just like the Ernie ball stingray.man I love your style bro
Yes,...the SUB 5 is also a beast. Well,...in my opinion. It's kind of close. I'm so sorry about the late, late, late, response as well. Thank you so much. : D
Absolutely awesome chops brother.
Thank you MR. MARTIN. I highly appreciate it. : D
Nice comparison with some awesome playing!! I love my SUB Ray 4.
Lt. Low-End,...why thank you, sir! I highly appreciate it. Glad I can make some people smile. I like the S.U.B as well. (smiles).
Awesome playing sir !!!
man your thumb is killing!! you makeing that sub sound like million dollar bass.
Danny my man. Thanks dude. It's the closet door knob thingy. That's where all that speed comes from. 30 minutes a day for about (1) year. Unconsciously doing it. It's crazy. : D
These both seem like great basses, So how do they justify the price difference? Different woods? Pickups?
It's the "HARDWARE" and the "BRIDGE" and the "PICKUP". The ray 4 has a "PASSIVE" pickup and the hardware is probably not a "THICK" in material. The woods should play a part in the "TONE" as well. The ray34 has an "ACTIVE" pickup. Bassically, Sterling is saying; the ray34 can get you real close to the "ORIGINAL" STINGRAY'S tone. So, you're gonna have to the pay that "CLOSE" to the original sound "PRICE". :D
@@11coopbasscooper55 thanks!
is it the “passive” or the “active” pickups that have the battery?
My SUB Ray 4 has the battery…
@@hdrjunkie Both have a 9v battery. That's only because the basses have an onboard preamp inside the body. The pickups themselves have different internal parts. That makes the sound difference.
@@11coopbasscooper55 AH, ok thanks!
Ive ordered a ray 4. Also ordered a Seymour Duncan pre amp and pickup. Can’t wait.
That GC should cut you a check because you just sold both those basses lol lol lol, whew !!!!
I know, right?! Hey GC,...where's my money? Lol!
people's jaws must've been dropping.. damn that was some fantastic playing
Aaaaaah! Thanks Big Bruce. : D
nice! coop, you need to check out the new GK legacy 115 combo. Gigging w/ mine this weekend 1st time. Sounds KILLER in studio.
Wait! Hold up Dr. Doug. I'm so late, I might as well be absent. I saw the "LEGACY" but never got around to it. Now the pandemic is on our shoulders. I can't go to any GUITAR CENTERS in my area due to closing for now. I know it's the "BOMB!!!!" Ouch! I'm sitting here texting and imagining me with (3) of those combo at a gig! Killah, I do believe. Lol! Thanks for the info bruddah! : D
I have the SUB and i've tried the Ray 34 and honestly I prefer my SUB not just because I own it but because the feel of it, even compared to some actual Stingrays mine feels better in the hand. With some electronics upgrades it will sound even better and I would still be well under the $850 mark let alone the $1,200 mark of a real Stingray.
Heh more like 2000 mark! Shit show me a 1200 dollar stingray
I find it interesting that the Sub Ray Four is active and affordable. I'm a finger player and a pick player. I'm currently learning slap on my own. But I don't think I can get that good at slap. So I want an active bass to get a higher low end sound. I currently have a short scale classic vibe Jaguar.
You can do better than me. Just practice slowly and correctly. That's the name of the game. Oh, and be patient with it. Take your time. Speed will come. : D
I've noticed on most of these bass demos when the player starts to slap, it's 99% of the time in the key of E. Why? Because most of the slapping is melodic to the open E string. Now what would be a feat is to slap in G or F# for your demo.
You do play the slap style well. We all have our niche that we play. Thank you for doing a demo on this great bass.
Really enjoyed listening to you play. Not many can make a bass sing like that. Thanks for the review.
Sir Peter,...I highly appreciate the comment. So sorry about the late, late response. You are so welcome. :D
Men your videos are very cool an useful to the bassist 👍
So sorry for the late response. Thank you Joel. I highly appreciate it. : D
I thought that the second bass was a beast especially with the crisp sound and smoother tones but not enough to justify such a big price difference .....I'll take the first bass even though I like the second one a little more and keep the extra cash lol
keedy,...sorry about the late response. As you know. Both basses can get elected in the purchasing department. Lol! "THAT'S RIGHT!" Cost effective instruments can get the job done as well. Lol! : D
Both sound good but which one you think is more "solid" and can be setup properly? With some affordable basses it can be hard to get the action I want without buzzing because some can get a bit of back bow.
I know I am 3 years late. A lot of musicians don't know, once you plug a bass into an interface and then into a mixer, you basically can make the bass sound like anything that comes to your mind. Usually, an instrument going though your onstage equipment is for your to monitor, the audience hears what's going through the mixing board. So, they really can here what you hear on stage. So, don't get too caught up into this bass is better than that bass. Stop the press. It's really ''HOW WELL YOU CAN PLAY". Real talk. : D
Since I don’t have a door knob next to me lol how do I get that wrist speed down.
Do you like "DIRT" bikes. Get you a dirt bike and continue to throttle that gas knob. Same science. Lol!
Man!!!!! You are good!!!! I feel like packing my bass up after that!!! But then the inspiration kicked in!!! So, laterz!! I gotta go practice!!!!🎶🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊🎶😁👍🏾
NOW THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKIN' 'BOUT!' See, you my dude right here. Never give up! Keep going, keep going. Yes!!!!!!!!! : D
Can someone recommend some good bag options for the Ray 4....thanks!
Bag options???? What do you mean. I really don't understand. : D
@@11coopbasscooper55 Gig bags....you know....Mono vs. Reunion vs. Gator etc....Somewhat concerned about space for the G string tuning peg in a bag. Any suggestions are appreciated.
@@whatsitwhosit well,...gator should be just fine for one of these basses. Those other bass gig bags are a lot of money. Reunion's and Mono would probably cost more that the actual "STERLING" bass. Lol! Sometimes you can just settle for a well crafted bass gig bag for less money. Heavily padded one too. : D
I sold my sub and bought a classic dual h used. I found for me that with my sub the mids and highs were sometimes unpleasant and you would of course then fiddle and it would eventually sound great. I think a sub base used is a great bargain buy! And I thought that new sterling here sounded pretty great! Cool vid!
Thanks Ken,...sorry about the late, late, late response. Hey, all instruments are good to some point. Even the new up to date versions basses have issues. I can't complain. It is a very good used "COST EFFECTIVE" bass for the money. You are so correct. I agree. : D
I can see why anyone would fall in love with musicman basses, it has some of the sweet sounds.
Nice sounding demo of this bass, I had seen this video several times yes I love this Sterling by Musicman bass both of them got great clean sound. Master the instrument is my advice to the younger folks, don't worry about the best instrument. That's why these basses come in handy incase you may not want to play bass anymore they are not that expensive.
Yes,...you are so right. Get the skills down,...first. Lol!
I like the Ray4, its got a fat sound, the sound is almost a cross between the Sabre & a Stingray! The body even reminds me of the Sabre, a little more narrow than the Stingray body. I've owned all of them and the SUB has a great sound and is very comfortable to play. Btw, you sound good!
Sir Rick Barnes,...I am so sorry about the late, late, late, late response. You're probably laughing right now. Lol! Sabre and a Stingray huh? I have to look at them together. You might be right. All of them,...wow! You're a Stingray believer. That's great! Yes,...the S.U.B do sound stronger. Yes it is very comfortable to play. I totally agree with you. Oh thank my friend for the comment. Thank you. : D
@@11coopbasscooper55 no worries, yes, i was laughing because i forgot about the post and had to revisit it. I'm still thumpin' the SUB, hope you are doing well, take care, & remember the funk!
Which would you recommend for a jazz bass? I do all sorts of different genres such as rock and punk but I need a bass for my jazz band and I want a Sterling
A used Mexican fender jazz deluxe 4 string with the "JOHN SUHR" 9mm big pole pickups in it. You'll be amazed at the tone. : D
Bro I subscribed to you Iove how u are an old school Larry Graham, Louis Johnson slapper- no-double thumb or tricks just straight talent developed from years of practice with a little nod to god for a little help. As a guy who aspired to be like you but never will be hats off - now I gotta go listen to some Fantastic Voyage by lakeside...
2 years have gone by and I work so much,...it's a pleasure to be able to respond. Well,...I hope now that you have been practicing for 2 years since this reply, you are one bad dude on the bass. (smiles). Playing music is fine, if you have the ability to get good money from doing so. I am a tractor and trailer driver, home remodeling guy. Playing bass does not get me the "BREAD" I make from driving a truck and redesigning homes. So, somethings you have to just let rest for a while. :D
What's the song at 2:26????? Driving me mad 😂
That's just a lick that some friends of mine made up. I don't know if that's a song. Maybe it is a song's lick. I have no idea. Sorry. : D
Damn dude you are one hell of a player!!!!
Aaaaah! Thank you so much Don. I try and I highly appreciate it. I'm just having fun here at my old age. Lol! : D
The sub ray 4 seems to distort more than the ray34. But I'm gassing for either.
Great playing chop🔥
Thanks Sir Tony. I highly appreciate it. : D
Coop I think you could make any bass sound good. :) I agree I like the sound better from Ray4.
Jim Atyeo,...hey, thanks for the comment. I chase the (1) everytime I play. You know. (1) (2) (3) (4). I just want to make it back to the (1), as clean and quickly as possible. Also, just trying to have some fun. Lol!
wow amazing bass playing!
Thank you so much. I highly appreciate it. : D
Of all the dudes on TH-cam I'm watching to learn slap I like your style best.
Much respect Justin O. I highly appreciate you bruh. Thanks. And so sorry about the late response. : D
Idk if he changed tone or changed how he plays when he plays ray34. sounds kinda clearer but underpowered
Well,...I had both bass set flat. This way nobody can say; I had one's tone set different from the other. : D
Wonder how the warwick in back would do against the Ray34
Not too spectacular. Stingrays are in a class by themselves. Real talk. : D
Amazing chops!
I’ve had my eye on that sub for some time now it really sounds good for the price.
Yes,...indeed. If you don't have one ready. Get you one, you can't go wrong. : D
That was in the pocket! U made both sing! Better equipment does help but at the end of the day its about the skill behind the instrument, not the instrument itself. I enjoyed the playing, slap on!
Jamie, so sorry about the late, late response. A lot has been going on lately. I'm a tractor and trailer driver. Family members passing, I caught that "COVID" thingy too. It's been a mess. Thanks for the comment. I highly appreciate it. I'm gonna do something soon. : D
@@11coopbasscooper55 no problem! Life happens! I was looking at both those bases to possibly purchase awhile back but ended up doing a Marcus Miller Sire V3 instead. Awesome bass for the money. Either way, glad u made it past the VID!
полезное лобовое столкновение. Если 4 звучит не хуже 34, при такой разнице в цене, то в чём подвох? Может внутренности разные?
Well, the ray has a "PASSIVE" bass pickup. While the ray34 has an "ACTIVE" bass pickup. The hardware on the 4 is thinner in quality, while the 34 hardware is thicker in quality. The bridges are different. Materials are different as well. Probably, the preamps are different too. The ray34 woods are probably different and comes with a veneer top as well. So with that being said; you will get a different tone from both basses. Hope the helps answer your question. : D
@@11coopbasscooper55 👌🖐
Sir James, I remember seeing the Ray34 at one time used for $249.99 here in Pennsylvania. No joke.
Maaan, your hands are unstopable! )
Insane slap technique! )
Thanks for the test, I like Ray4 sound better too
I've have the Ray34 for maybe 3 years. I love it, but both sound great! I had to order it being a Lefty! Paid a little over $600.00. Peace!
Hey,...sorry about the late, late, late response. I appreciate your comment. That's not a bad price being that you are a lefty bass player. Thanks.
great bass playing sir
Tom,...thanks for the comment my friend. I highly appreciate it. : D
Awesome playing Man !!!
Thank you. So sorry about the late, response my friend. : D
@@11coopbasscooper55 it's cool 😁 no worry ! Keep groovin Bro 🙌🙌🙌
Man this dude could play on a plank of wood and still make it sound good
Aaaah! Lol! Thanks. I highly appreciate it. Sorry about the late, late, late response. :D
Awesome playin man.
Thank you so much. Sorry about the late response. : D
Yeah Zeropaun,... that's exactly it. That real "STINGRAY" sound. Hey,...you might be familiar with Jeff Lorber. Well, if you listen to the 1st generation of "THE JEFF LORBER FUSION", Danny Wilson was his bass player. Check our the "REAL" sound of "HOW A MUSICMAN STINGRAY" should be really played. I know everybody give it to "LOUIS JOHNSON. But check "DANNY WILSON" wuth "JEFF LORBER FUSION". BACK IN THE LATE 70's. 😊
You are very correct Danny Wilson was the guy for the ultimate music man sound and I was lucky to see him as a young kid and that was the very reason for me to pickup a stingray! I wonder if he is still around?
GodDAMN Dude! I forgot why I was here when you hit those strings 😄
Elsif,...lol! I'm sorry about the late,late,late response. Thank you dude. I highly appreciate it. :D
Ray 34 all day! What amps are you meaning speaker sizes? using? What are the settings on the amp and bass?
Glad you like what your ears are absorbing for your taste. That's a good thing for you and you only. I don't knock what others like. (smiles). Through a "GK!" MB115 COMBO. That is it for this video. Nothing else. Everything is "FLAT" on the basses and the bass combo amp. : D
Is that the Cherry Hill Guitar Center?
Yes it was done in the CHERRY HILL guitar center. : D
I got myself the ray 4 - this is my second bass because my first one had broken wiring (partially by me and partially by the bad bass itself), it also had a very high action even with the action nuts removed completely. I yet have to try it. About the video, you got some skills there. I can barely play can't stop and my hand gets kinda weak xd
Take that bass to a repair guy if you haven't already got rid of it. Have them lower the action. Thank you for such kind words. I try to do the best I can to make me "HAPPY". Lol! Take it easy. Practice slow and correctly. Speed comes later. : D
@@11coopbasscooper55 too late lol, i quit playing bass. i'm now a guitar player... lol
@@lapinus oh ok "GEORGE BENSON". I'm not going to let you get away that easy. Lol! You still have to go through the learning process. Practice slowly and correctly. Lol! That's great!!! Just think. You're still a "MUSICIAN". Ha! Ha! You dah maaaan,....bossman! 👌😉
I'm just checking this video out. That SUB sounded tight for the price, but you could really tell the difference when you picked up that Ray 34. Coop you're a straight beast when it comes to that Funk baby "Keep Funk Alive"
1st Sir Shelton Gee. I highly appreciate you checking out the video's. Yes,...that SUB is a killer for the price. I totally agree with you on that. Thank you for such kind words. I will try and do my best to help keep funk alive. Thank you so much. Glad I can make you feel good, bruddah! : D
hahaha I could watch you play bass all day man!
Aaaaah! thank you so much,...my friend. Lol!
Nice playing. Which one did you like better? The Ray34 or the Ray4?
Thanks,...I highly appreciate it. The Ray4. Yes, I like a "HEAVY" bass tone. : D
Strings, are the same on both?
Nice Coop... I wanted a Ray35...end up with a Sparkle Green Ray34...lol
Nice chops dude!
Wade Guidry,... thanks. I'm still learning. Still trying. In all reality, I'm just trying to have some fun. 😄
Coop! You inspired me.. I love the way you play.. How did you learn and who taught you? Just went out and picked up a sub ray4.
Mykl Allen,...so sorry about the late, late, late response. Thank you so much for liking how I play. I learned off of Lp's and a mother who made us/ my brother and I. Play our instruments she bought for us,...especially, when we got in trouble. She'd beat us and make us stay in the house for a month in the summertime and made us practice. That was our punishment. Lol! My brother Fred taught me how to play. I was a guitar player at first. I have long fingers. My brother Fred was the bass player. We traded instruments and I became the bass player and he became the guitar player. Its' been that way ever since. I am officially a "bassaholic". Now, practice slowly and correctly. Also, do not worry about how well your friends can play. You have to be your best bassist. Forget Marcus Miller, Victor Wooten, Stanley Clarke, Alain Caron, Adam Nitti, Alex Al just to name a few. Be Mykl. : D
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Bro, you may want to take a few lessons... JK, very nice stuff! I play guitar but I'm looking to pick up one of these to appease a craving to play bass, as one kid has picked up guitar and the other drums. Being I'll only be a bedroom rock star with them, I cant see dropping $2k for a Music Man (which years ago my friend played and I loved the sound), thus why the Sterling stood out. I'm torn between the Ray 34 and the S.U.B Ray4. The S.U.B. seemed appealing as it has the look and I like the price is rightt but I was concerned on how it played. What are your thoughts on the two? Is the action nice or do you get a lot of the "fret buzz" when playing the Ray4? And what were you playing thru, one of those GK's? I was looking to grab a small Hartke combo. oddly, wathcing your video, the Ray4 (to me) seemed to have a little deeper tone which I like, but the Ray34 seemed cleaner and less distorted. I'll be forced to order online (Gutar Center is a a bit of a drive), so I just don't want to be disappointed with the Ray 4 if its a crummy playing bass, though used they are only $200. Big fan of guys like, Bootsy, Jaco, Stanley Clark, Victor Wooten, & Stewart Hamm, so I need to make sure I sound just like them when I plug this thing in! LOL