Sterling by Music Man Ray24CA "Classic"- Is this worthy of the "Classic" name?- LowEndLobster Review

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    Hey everyone! Today we're doing and in-depth review on the Sterling by Music Man Stingray Ray24CA "Classic". Sterling by Music Man makes some bold claims in the description of this instrument citing inspiration from the original Stingray bass from the 70's. Is this bass the real retro deal, or is their claim a bunch of marketing mumbo-jumbo? Let's find out!
    Edit: I see Sterling is starting flat and not cut. oops ;P
    Edit 2: Forgot to mention the difference in nut width! USA Has the 41.3mm vs the 38mm Sterling SBMM Ray24
    Specs of Ray24:
    Model RAY24CA
    Body Wood Mahogany
    Body Color Toluca Lake Blue (TLB), 3-Tone Sunburst (3TS), Butterscotch (BSC)
    Bridge Sterling by Music Man Designed Bridge
    Pickguard White (3TS), Black (BSC), Tortoise (TLB)
    Scale Length 34" (86.4cm)
    Neck Radius 9.5" (24cm)
    Frets 21 Frets, Medium
    Neck Width 1.5"(38mm) at Nut
    Neck Wood Hard Maple
    Fingerboard Rosewood (TLB, 3TS), Hard Maple (BSC)
    Fret Markers Black/White Dot Markers
    Tuning Machines Open Gear
    Truss Rod Single Action
    Neck Attachment 6 Bolts
    Controls 2-band Active Preamp
    Switching N/A
    Pickups H - 1 Ceramic Humbucker
    Specs for EBMM SR Classic:
    Model Classic StingRay 4
    Size 13-1/2" wide, 1-5/8" thick, 44-7/8" long (34.3 cm wide, 4.1 cm thick, 114.0 cm long)
    Body Wood Select Hardwood
    Body Finish High gloss polyester
    Body Colors Standard Classic Colors
    Bridge Music Man® chrome plated, hardened steel bridge plate with "Classic" stainless steel saddles and adjustable mute pads
    Pickguard Standard - Black or White; Optional - Shell
    Scale Length 34" (86.4 cm)
    Neck Radius 7.5" (19.1 cm)
    Headstock Size Only 8-1/4" (21.0 cm) long
    Frets 21 - High profile, narrow width
    Neck Width 1-5/8" (41.3 mm) at nut 2-1/2" (63.5 mm) at last fret
    Neck Wood Figured maple
    Fingerboard Fretted - maple or rosewood
    Neck Finish High-gloss finish
    Neck Colors Natural aged yellow finish
    Tuning Machines Schaller BM, with tapered string posts
    Truss Rod Adjustable - no component or string removal
    Neck Attachment 6 bolt neck plate
    Electronic Shielding Chrome plated brass control cover
    Controls Single Pickup, 2-band active preamp; vol, treble, bass
    Switching -
    Pickups Standard - Music Man® humbucking with Alnico magnets
    This bass and all my other basses with rounds are strung with MJC Ironworks Nickel Plated Stainless Steel 45-105(130) unless otherwise noted. Check them out at www.mjcironworks.com
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  • @rqkeating
    @rqkeating 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Your honesty in bass reviews is really appreciated. Don't ever sell out.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks Russell! I don't plan on it :)

  • @lexdecs8294
    @lexdecs8294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I learned that a group of Sting Rays is called a Fever. I guess this confirms that you can only play Funk or Disco on these now.

    • @russellzauner
      @russellzauner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      too good to not be true

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I have a FE-VAH and the only cure is more stingrays!

  • @martinheath5947
    @martinheath5947 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Tip for the Stingray Classic: Loosen the volume and tone control screws, rotate knobs and tighten them with screws in centre detent position for each pot. That way you have a visual cue looking down at them 👍

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thanks Martin, a true big brain play!

  • @shugemery
    @shugemery ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just bought one these. Went to visit it and feel it. Ended up walking out with it. I'm a new bass convert and have a Squire 70s Vibe Jazz bass and this just plays better for sure. Rosewood fingerboard. Just sounded better than others in the store. Slap is so nice on it. I just wanted to say that I love when you do that joyful laugh after playing a groove. Thankee for these videos.

  • @TheBeardofDOOM
    @TheBeardofDOOM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    “He wears a tuxedo t-shirt. It says ‘I’m classy, but I also like to party’”
    -Cal Naughton Jr.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Shake n' bake

    • @ejmusicofficial
      @ejmusicofficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LowEndLobster If this bass ain't first...it's last! lol

  • @Korppa92
    @Korppa92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That Butterscotch color looks awesome. I've been pondering which one to buy for my next bass a ray24 or an s.u.b. I think i'm pretty well informed after watching this.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Arttu! That's what I hope to do :), glad you found this vid informative

  • @quin.em.harris
    @quin.em.harris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have heard many bass tones, but the stingray is always one of my favorites.
    A NEW CAT I HAVE NEVER SEEN THAT ONE

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hehe the black one is Goon, she is much more independent but still says hi every now and then :) (especially close to dinner time)

  • @jacobsnightmare1807
    @jacobsnightmare1807 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Going by this video, I actually like the sound of the Sterling a little bit better. Not that I'd ever turn away an EBMM, of course :) Thanks for the video!

  • @PushSueAside
    @PushSueAside 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    FINALLY!!!!!! A MM BASS REVIEW!!!!!!
    It seems like HOURS AND HOURS since you’ve done one.
    Thank you for sharing another MM (I’m really not complaining, every MM video is one less ibenez video)
    You make my day buddy. Cheers

  • @JustNodIfYouCanHearMe77
    @JustNodIfYouCanHearMe77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Really appreciate what you do, Lobster. Good stuff, bra

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you :) glad you're enjoying it!

  • @andrewlookenbill3249
    @andrewlookenbill3249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just picked up the Ray24ca at GC for $379, they matched MF price. This is my first MM, because I have been checking out all your videos and you speak very highly of them. I love it, great addition to my collection. Can’t wait to hear it in parallel, might have to get it adjusted if sounds good! As always keep those videos coming and thanks!

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Andrew! Congrats on the bass! Parallel vid drops tomorrow morning, enjoy :). The difference is subtle, like it is in this video, but it's there.

  • @joelanderson_t
    @joelanderson_t 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I can respect your criticisms in terms of the pricing. But I think it's better worth getting the 5-string Classic than the 4-string version. One reason is because the 5-string Classic still preserves the body and pickguard shapes of a regular 4-string StingRay. And they're rare to find if you like the looks of the 4-string version. Other than that, I slapped a like and already subbed to your channel. Thanks for your honest review, be well!

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks Joel! Great comment! The 5 string 'classic' also has the 17.5mm spacing at the bridge vs the 16.5mm spacing of the Ray5 SUB (for those who prefer a more traditional feel to their Ray). Welcome aboard!

  • @brentnicholaysen7652
    @brentnicholaysen7652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just ordered that “SLO Special” Styled StingRay Classic Bass because of your awesome demo :-) Thanks Lobster! $345.99 from GC

  • @jaxonvictoria4345
    @jaxonvictoria4345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Somebody in the Sterling by MusicMan factory probably brought an actual Stingray Classic and compared the tones and went “oh s#it! They sound more similar when the Sterling is in series!”
    That is the only logical explanation for them doing that 😂

  • @biggamba06
    @biggamba06 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just got this bass a good 2 weeks ago! love the tone! My favorite tone is 75% Treble and 100% bass. Love this bass!

  • @kirkbellamy1968
    @kirkbellamy1968 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just discovered your channel while trying to figure out Sterling MM bass to buy and what the benefits that the different mods provide. Thanks for the unbiased reviews!

  • @Dima-ek4zj
    @Dima-ek4zj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, you post videos faster than I can watch them! Great job! I will check it out later on. Also if I may add one thing - I purchased a Sterling by Musicman StingRay 5 last Momday, formely known as Ray35, and I gotta tell you. If it didnt say sterling on the headstock and on the bridge (and the country of origin wasn't printed on the backside of the headstock) I would say it was made in USA, that good the quality is! I was blown away

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Richard! Glad you're enjoying the content. I agree, the 34/35 series is VERY nice and comes incredibly close to the pre facelift EBMM Rays. Excellent value and tons of cool finish options now plus roasted maple necks!

  • @jimmyyes7269
    @jimmyyes7269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thomann prices for the affordable Stingrays as of 1/20/2022: Sub Ray4: 437 USD. Ray24: 748 USD. Not a good time for buying musical instruments and I live in Europe. Where is the power of Euros I've been promised? All prices high as crazy and you have to wait several weeks. I'm still in search for my 1st bass purchase. I gave you the 700th like on this video btw.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Jimmy! Yeah prices are nuts. I think with SBMM, the cost differential is due to the QC being done in USA.

  • @twocats2543
    @twocats2543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review and the calling out of the components vs. the naming. I agree with your final assessment that it just leaves a negative impression for what is otherwise a nice sounding bass.

  • @farisfuad1150
    @farisfuad1150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I got my 25ca with a price cut of 120 bucks. I got my friend who works at the music store to buy it with his staff price benefit. And there's also a dent on the back of the bass so I bargained for a lower price on top of that lol. Saved me a lot of money.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow what a deal! That's awesome

  • @Bassdriver
    @Bassdriver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Ray 24 doesn't sound half bad but lacks that Stingray punch. I'd probably rewire it or simply replace the pickup with a decent AlNiCo one. And, to be honest, basing on your test and description, it's not really worth the price difference between it and the Sub Ray. Especially that you can get the Sub in my absolutely favourite black/black/maple combo ;-)
    Your Stingray classic though... It sounds awesome and is DROP DEAD GORGEOUS!

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Man, the classic is one of my absolute favorites. Definitely a trapped-on-a-desert-island bass. Very lucky to have snagged that one. She's never leaving my possession :)

  • @klaymeister
    @klaymeister 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    That sale price is worth it. The $499 is not. SUB with an upgraded pickup is the way to go.

    • @russellzauner
      @russellzauner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      www.guitarcenter.com/Used/OLP/Ernie-Ball-OLP-Electric-Bass-Guitar.gc
      LOL preSUB

    • @rl-ub9hx
      @rl-ub9hx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I kinda wish I grabbed one couple weeks ago when it was 350 at GC

    • @wesliggett2454
      @wesliggett2454 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hell my SUB5 with the stock pickup is extremely decent. For 325 ya cant really beat it.

    • @wesliggett2454
      @wesliggett2454 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mr. Lobster, I just got the Neural DSP parallax plugin. If you have tried this stuff, you gotta! Some of the most useful bass tones I’ve ever heard. It’s totally not just for metal. Check it out!

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks Wes! LOL@ Russel, I had an OLP (actually two) 5 strings... the tighest spacing ever and it sounded like ass hahaha.

  • @cathridge
    @cathridge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just bought a sunburst Sterling Classic 24CA at my local Sam Ash. I fell in love with it the moment I picked it up. It plays great tho it needs a set-up because there's a buzz on the lower end of the neck. Otherwise the it's lightweight but punchy. Playability and sound are most important to me. It feels great and I don't have to fight with it to feel comfortable and get my desired sound. Still haven't put a battery in to access the preamp. Never had an active bass before.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Congrats! :)

    • @mikeenos4040
      @mikeenos4040 ปีที่แล้ว

      Like the Ray 24, l think it has a jazz bass 1.5 nut .and a 7.5 radius according to the specs..
      Good bass for a working man on a budget..
      I played on at a store and was impressed very punchy almost bought it but I was shopping for a cab .
      Well worth the money..

  • @brothaclam
    @brothaclam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad someone who reviews critical. Other who review, almost only review positive.
    Wich doesn't give me any view of how the instrument really is.
    Played an S.U.B. once, really hated the neck, it was like touching very dry wood.. So the tint to me does alot though.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Phlikker! Glad you enjoyed it :)

  • @mikepiazza2000
    @mikepiazza2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The neck on that classic is fookin gorgeous

  • @robertkerr9738
    @robertkerr9738 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have this model and absolutely love it.

  • @bobt5778
    @bobt5778 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just traded in my mint green sub for one of these. I like the tint in the neck! The sub neck was as pale as driftwood - not very appealing. This also has a very nice bridge and weighs less than my old sub, and the improved pickup makes the cheapie preamp seem a lot less harsh.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Bob! Congrats on the new bass!

  • @larrymoore5370
    @larrymoore5370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the excellent review! FYI.. just snagged one @Guitar Center For $349.99 SWEEEET!!

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Larry! Congrats, that's an awesome deal!

  • @santosdominguez154
    @santosdominguez154 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ray 24 CA was impressive, I had my eyes on the 5 string one wondering if I should get it or not, but thank's to your demonstration I think I will buy it, thank you so much.

  • @ryanrogers8923
    @ryanrogers8923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ok, im digging this. It blows me away at how many good basses we can buy sub 500 now days. This is a good bass, the sub is a good bass, I like my AIO telle bass, the list goes on and on. Realy been thinking about one of these, or the sub with a better pickup. Are the subs on sale? I'll check, or maybe I shouldn't, lol.

    • @joek.8247
      @joek.8247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      $229 right now at GC if you like black on black (drool) with the rosewood fingerboard. I’m tempted.

    • @ryanrogers8923
      @ryanrogers8923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dam, as am I now! Sounds good!

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The 24's are still on sale for $380 as well- www.musiciansfriend.com/bass/sterling-by-music-man-stingray-classic-electric-bass

  • @captbuscemi
    @captbuscemi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow! Extremely informative video, I'm new-ish to bass and I love the Stingray tone. Sounds like the way to go is to buy a cheapo SUB4 and upgrade the heck out of it with a J-Tone preamp and a really good parallel pickup, and save myself $1000!!

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Capt! Yes, I agree- especially if you're new to Stingrays. Get a SUB, mod it and enjoy it. You can get very close to the USA stingray sound at a fraction of the price.

  • @ahauntedlighthouse7305
    @ahauntedlighthouse7305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you ever get your hands on an Ibanez SR Mezzo, would love to hear your thoughts. No worries if not. 😎 Cheers!

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! I'll definitely be checking one of those out at some point :)

  • @oskarus3
    @oskarus3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm surprised how close the sound of the Ray24 was to real 'Ray. And it is in series!

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed, quite close. The parallel mod is very easy too, I did it right after I shot this vid. You'll see tomorrow :)

  • @joek.8247
    @joek.8247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    $380 does seem more palatable...but of course CME now has a maple board SUB for $255 shipped and GC has a rosewood SUB for $229 now (again Dec 2020)...makes it kinda tough to go down the “Classic” route even when it’s on sale unless you *really* don’t wanna tinker. Currently looking for a cheap knock-about second bass to also learn to mod a smidge and wondering if the sale prices SUBs may be the ticket...Thanks for the great vid as always!

    • @joek.8247
      @joek.8247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aaaaand I just got a price match at $229 shipped from a better-than-GC vendor for the black/black w/ maple neck version so guess no excuses, eh?

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think Shia Labeouf has a motivational video for situations like this ;P

  • @pth0047
    @pth0047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I played this at GC and it sounds awesome for my alt rock/metal band. That being said I don’t know very much about this stuff.

  • @TheGAMEGod_YT
    @TheGAMEGod_YT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    10.3k subs and counting !!!!! Let’s gooooo !!!

  • @jasonbenford3427
    @jasonbenford3427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Lobbie!!🤜🏿💢🤛🏿!!🐱
    Just came across a 24CA on sale TODAY!🙏🏿🤗!!
    I gotta do it.👍🏿😁
    My First Stingray!🎉🎉
    Yes, technically, still not really in "Stingray" country.😣(Ray34) But,you say it has a decent pickup.👍🏿 Good platform!👌🏿
    I'll definitely take Mahogany over Basswood.😉
    I'll have to check out the parallel circuit hack you mentioned.☝🏿
    Already rewatching the Stingray Mod Videos again!📼👀
    Thank You for your input and your candor🙏🏿🙏🏿!

  • @ejjacinto5014
    @ejjacinto5014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh man! I was waiting for this video
    I think this video had cleared my idea about buying this bass
    Thank you for the demo
    Nice playing as always 💙💙💙💪💪

  • @hughmann5480
    @hughmann5480 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best reviewer ever . So glad I stumbled on this channel

  • @burtreynolds2969
    @burtreynolds2969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like it. The one thing Im not crazy about is the way the tuners stick out so far from the head stock. On the US models, the tuners are a little more tucked in. I wonder if you can order the original tuners and stick them on the 24.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      EB USA does sell replacement tuners, they're $30 a pop though. Thanks Burt :)

  • @goosegaskins
    @goosegaskins 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm looking at a used Ray24CA in great shape for $299. What do you think, Lobsty?

  • @riedki009
    @riedki009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have 24CA, and just put flat wounds on it. Gorgeous

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome! I bet it sounds sweet with flats :)

  • @mojoemurphy
    @mojoemurphy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just got a SUB Ray4 and it has a 4 lead pup I was able to wire parallel. Can't be 100% sure it's factory because it was second hand, but I'm pretty sure it was

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice! The most recent SUB I got had a 4 lead too. I have several two lead ones that I use as fridge magnets haha

  • @juliangramajo7010
    @juliangramajo7010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i'll wait that series/parallel video

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That drops tomorrow :). The different is slight but noticeable. Just a slight change in character, but IMO seems a hint more authentic.

  • @ronlawrence5635
    @ronlawrence5635 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lobster, this is a great review. I appreciate your honesty, and I like your dressed up tee shirt.

  • @anpcm
    @anpcm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the Ray24CA & the EMG MMHZ pickups. In passive mode, with both pickups wired in series, the Ray24CA sounds very similar to the EMG (the EMG is little bit brighter)

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for sharing!

    • @anpcm
      @anpcm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LowEndLobster , You're welcome.

  • @michaelblaney4461
    @michaelblaney4461 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is a lot of "Marketing" in the musical instrument business today. Lots of Codewords and catch phrases. I like the bridge much better on the Ray 24 then the Ray 4, I like the pickup on the Ray 34 its Alnico, maybe an aftermarket P/U will sound better in the Ray 24. The MM Sting Ray sounds better but not necessarily 4 times better the the Ray24.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Michael! I agree. Someone else pointed out that the Ray34CA used to be a thing and was much more close to the "Classic" in specs and feel.

  • @bassistdc
    @bassistdc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you cut the bass and boosted the treble my ears started bleeding! Arrg!

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I should put a disclaimer ;P.

  • @raffaelecrupi9347
    @raffaelecrupi9347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good sound !!!!
    2 eq control, the my favourite " stingray" sound

  • @jeffreybudinich3465
    @jeffreybudinich3465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Super groovy playing ,you get the crustation cool groove award

  • @TH-bk5hj
    @TH-bk5hj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the Toluca Lake blue model. It’s really nice. Looking to get this butterscotch model for different tunings for stage

  • @samlelowitch
    @samlelowitch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I find that I like both basses a lot in terms of their sound, but the EBMM gets the edge for being a bit more refined. It’s not five times better than the SBMM Ray34CA, though,

  • @andreinicolae4787
    @andreinicolae4787 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have been watching your Ray reviews non-stop for the past 3-4 days.
    I can’t decide between a Ray 4 with Seymour SMB-4a and john east preamp (2band) or a stock Ray24

  • @ChipsA17
    @ChipsA17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally ive been waiting for the 24. This was my first stingray i ever played but i ended up falling for the ray34. The 34 just sounds better.
    I would rather have a sub than a 24

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Ross! The 34 is definitely the complete package from SBMM.

    • @ChipsA17
      @ChipsA17 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LowEndLobster i actually discovered a bass today for around the same price as the 34.
      I found a 2006 ebmm sterling 4h blue dawn for $1200. What do you know abiut the ebmm sterling classic

  • @bobt5778
    @bobt5778 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Forgot to mention in my previous comment that the neck radius on this a vintage 7.25 versus 9.5 on the sub 4. I think you statednthat the necks were the same except for the tint. This is actually a completely different neck and should be noted.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just checked SBMM and the radiuses for both basses are listed as having identical radiuses. They felt identical too.

    • @bobt5778
      @bobt5778 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LowEndLobster www.musiciansfriend.com/bass/sterling-by-music-man-stingray-classic-electric-bass. I saw several websites with the 7.25, but yeah SBMM dies show 9.5. I just got a Ray 4 HH yesterday (based on your review) and it feels much different than the CA. Weird. Oh well, love them both, thanks!

  • @truchero11
    @truchero11 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly comparing the $500 Sterling against a real Stingray is harsh.

  • @jonnyg123ful
    @jonnyg123ful 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not a bad sounding bass thanks! for sharing this demo

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks John! Glad you enjoyed it :)

  • @bassimprovjams3772
    @bassimprovjams3772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Magic cat change was awesome!! Hahahaha

  • @daltonbell2907
    @daltonbell2907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mr lobster 🦞, I like the tone of this one, very punchy, growly yet very articulate at the same time.

  • @user-zr5dq6bf2p
    @user-zr5dq6bf2p 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9:45 nice sound

  • @gabinga74
    @gabinga74 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmm…i really like the stock preamp/puckup!
    Been looking around to get hold of a spare one, but really difficult to get hold of.

  • @1thess523
    @1thess523 ปีที่แล้ว

    So from watching your videos I was really thinking about getting a ray 24 but I actually got to try one at Guitar Center and I really didn't like it, the body was too thick and the tone didn't seem to be that much better or even better than the regular SUB, the bridge is definitely better on the ray 24 but I think with a pickup and preamp upgrade the sub would be the way to go over the ray 24

  • @DW-zi6ht
    @DW-zi6ht 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It will be interesting to hear the bass once it's rewired. Swapping out the preamp for one of those Mojotone 2-band clones would be cool too.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks DW! The parallel vid drops tomorrrow morning :). I already dropped in a John East 3 band which we'll be doing a vid on soon :)

    • @etpslick100
      @etpslick100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LowEndLobster OMG! I love those John East Preamps! Can’t wait!

    • @martinheath5947
      @martinheath5947 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I might be tempted to try a stacked dual volume pot, one for each pickup

    • @etpslick100
      @etpslick100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@martinheath5947 That sounds like a great idea.😌👍🏾

  • @chrismosquad1056
    @chrismosquad1056 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I went I subscribe, but found out I already subbed in the past. Nice! 👍🏻

  • @trevorblair5552
    @trevorblair5552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Lobster, my friend has this bass with a John East Musicman preamp, Status carbon neck and a Aguilar pickup. It sounds fantastic!! Nice review. 🙏🏿👍🏾

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Trevor! That sounds awesome! I love Status necks. I have a different project that will be getting one soon ;).

  • @alfieharries
    @alfieharries 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Visible cat = instant like

    • @russellzauner
      @russellzauner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      one guy gives the top ratings on technicality if you include a dog in the picture of your rig/gear.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But this vid had TWO cats!... I mean one that I magically transformed into another ;P

  • @rl-ub9hx
    @rl-ub9hx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Literally just left GC playing this the sub and the ray34 hh I think it was. The 899 one. The 899 one felt and sounded like I'd rather pay for it than buy a classic or sub to build.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Rob! Yeah those 34s are VERY nice basses, honestly I don't think there's much to upgrade (outside of the pickguard if you really wanted haha).

    • @rl-ub9hx
      @rl-ub9hx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LowEndLobster I'm just saying... it's the only thing on my short list right now

  • @michaelcho6484
    @michaelcho6484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Lobster, love the vids. I stumbled on the Ray4HH model stringray and i love the sound and its flexibility! however, I dont know how the preamp controls work. I am sad that there are no guides about this. Can you explain how to turn on/off a preamp in the Ray4hh?

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! Great question, the preamp cannot be bypassed. It is always on.

    • @michaelcho6484
      @michaelcho6484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LowEndLobster thanks for the quick response. Keep up the great work!

  • @bassmike6216
    @bassmike6216 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative video, thx for posting ! I also see your postings on TalkBass. I have a question: I currently have this ray24ca (toluca blue with rosewood fb) which will see a preamp change for the seymour duncan stc-3m3 and will also have the stock pickup wiring modified to paralell. Not looking to add value for resale, only modding it for my use. How close am I gonna be to a real Stingray ? (I would get an EBMM one, but their necks are not so comfortable for me, as opposed to the thinner ray24ca neck). Thx 🙂

  • @flogginga_dead_horse4022
    @flogginga_dead_horse4022 ปีที่แล้ว

    The big difference for me is I like jazz 1.5 necks and without all the gloss. The Sterling sounded just as good or at least not different enough to care. I already have 2 different SUB's though so I probably don't need this. hmm

  • @thenightlifezero9154
    @thenightlifezero9154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    24 CA sounds nice and throaty because of the alnico pup.
    🦞 is a little burpey because of a delicious meal. 😆

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! 24CA is a ceramic pickup ;P

    • @thenightlifezero9154
      @thenightlifezero9154 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LowEndLobster goodness. I thought that was the one major upgrade from the SUB. Thank you for the correction.

    • @brentnicholaysen7652
      @brentnicholaysen7652 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LowEndLobster GC, MF and others specs say “Humbucker with Alnico magnets” not ceramic on the “Sterling by Music Man StingRay Classic Electric Bass Butterscotch Black Pickguard”.

  • @thiagodeandradeneves4585
    @thiagodeandradeneves4585 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This thing sounds amazing. Isn't the 38mm neck narrower than the "original" classic?

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes! Forgot to mention the difference in nut width, sorry :)

  • @nigellacey559
    @nigellacey559 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the USA doesnt sound as harsh in my opinion. A tad bit warmer than the stirling.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Nigel! I agree, I think the US one has a bit more subtlety and warmth, the Ray24 is a bit hotter (because of the series config) all around.

    • @nigellacey559
      @nigellacey559 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LowEndLobster still decent for the money though.

  • @Lo-Gravity
    @Lo-Gravity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In your Ray34 review you mentioned the bass weighed about 11lbs, how much does the Ray24 weigh in comparison?

  • @vadimski90
    @vadimski90 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interested in this base, but in Germany the price ATM ist 800 Euro, I think this is way too much for that bass..

  • @Ahquesi
    @Ahquesi ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice playing!! Slap sound better on Stingray. Do you know of any affordable music man who has a parallel pickup like the one on the Stingray? It bothered me to play on the pickup magnets and I ended up destroying it. Music man does not sell me the loose pickup.

  • @dylannylund6945
    @dylannylund6945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I own it and love it best bass for the money

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Dylan! Is yours stock or did you mod it?

    • @dylannylund6945
      @dylannylund6945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a new input jack. And I took off the pick guard. Looks way smoother and it plays better than my 2020 70s classic vibe Squier Jazz. The neck feels better too in my opinion.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dylannylund6945 nice!

  • @JonnyDibble
    @JonnyDibble 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did u get my bass? Great comparison sir 👏

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Underground Cat Network ;P

  • @jamesmarkham7489
    @jamesmarkham7489 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great starter bass but an upgraded sub is my way to go.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed, that's basically what this is at the end of the day. For those who want to tinker, SUB is a great platform- but for those who want a set it and forget it beginner 'Ray, this is where it would be at (especially at the $380 sale price)

  • @juanitabobo9213
    @juanitabobo9213 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok, I am brand spanking new to any instrument and chose to go with a bass guitar. There is a lot of jargon I'm not familiar with yet. So, I may have missed you clarifying the difference between a 24 and the 24CA..., but what's the difference?

  • @Gremlin48
    @Gremlin48 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the difference in the neck in the ray24 is that it has a 1.5” nut width. They usually have around 1.7”, no?

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, the standard is 41.3mm vs the 38 on here. This shares the same neck profile with the Ray4 SUB.

    • @Gremlin48
      @Gremlin48 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LowEndLobster oh wow, I didn’t know the SUBs were thinner too!

  • @PorchBass
    @PorchBass 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The sterling has bouncy low mids that do give a vintage vibe. I preferred the slap tone on the sterling, I guess because its more like a precision up top.
    But how much do they weigh, Mr L. E. Lobster?

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks James! The classic is around 10 lbs, Ray24 is 9.

    • @bro-im-just-walking-here
      @bro-im-just-walking-here 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i weighed my ray 24 on a hanging scale & it said 4,3 kg / 9.48 lbs. personally i don't find that to be 𝘵𝘰𝘰 heavy, but if that weight seems a bit excessive to you look into the SUB

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bro-im-just-walking-here My SUBs are all actually all within like .2 lbs of my Ray24. Weights can really vary from example to example. Honestly, if it's not exceptionally heavy or light then it's not worth mentioning IMO.

    • @PorchBass
      @PorchBass 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LowEndLobster A lot of people just want to know the weight. Straight up I would not buy a 10lb+ bass. I know a lot of people who feel the same. Same with 'is it neck heavy'? Just a basic factoid you'd want to know.
      The nearest affordable g&l clf to me in the UK is 350miles away, there is no way to even try one out without hours of travelling. Knowing is half the battle.
      Thanks Low for all these great videos

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PorchBass Thanks! Man, I've been procrastinating on a neck-dive special looking at like 20+ basses in a context of simply whether or not they neck dive... in game show format... I will do it soon!

  • @preciseaudioblog
    @preciseaudioblog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Sterling sounds fantastic. Only me here?

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! Definitely not, it's a great sounding bass.

  • @krissaenen3775
    @krissaenen3775 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lobster, did you 'burp' at the 9.47 minute mark? 😆

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOL yes I did... I'm a really good editor, you see ;P

    • @krissaenen3775
      @krissaenen3775 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LowEndLobster 🤣that's genius!!!!

  • @TjMetalHead94
    @TjMetalHead94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    imho the Sterling Ray 34 CA was much closer to a classic than the 24. The 34 had gloss amber tinted neck and slab swamp ash body. They also had alnico "Classic Active" pickups. I have a early 2012 model and it's the best Sterling bass ever made. I love it, I consider it my budget stingray classic. Sadly they've been discontinued since 2017. If you ever find one lobster grab it! They're awesome.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Donut! You're absolutely right, the Ray34CA was where it was AT. Even had the pots without the center notch from what I've heard (I could be wrong) like the actual classic. I've been trying to find one for a good price to do a comparison with.

    • @TjMetalHead94
      @TjMetalHead94 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LowEndLobster Thank you! I hope you do come by one some day, I'd love to see you jam one on your show. Also, yes the pots on the CA 34 do not have the notches.

  • @ormand.943
    @ormand.943 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im i crazy or the black vs de mustard are different dimension?

  • @ramshaar2597
    @ramshaar2597 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good looking bass sound is .........i think thats okay is the correct word no more keep on enjoing tbe good life buddy

  • @degeest5571
    @degeest5571 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have this bass with rosewood neck in blue with tort pick guard. Love the look, sounds better than the sub that I had, and feels better. But your right, it doesn't have the bite that your typical Stingray has. You have me thinking on rewiring to series.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks DeGeest! The Parallel mod was super easy, took all of 5 minutes. Feel free to reach out if you need any pointers :)

    • @degeest5571
      @degeest5571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Lobster

  • @cycleof7s438
    @cycleof7s438 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pardon the ignorance but what is the difference between a Sterling Ray24CA vs A Sterling Ray24. Is the classic available for purchase in the states?

  • @bassimprovjams3772
    @bassimprovjams3772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I try to click your link and it doesn't take me to your basses, just like a hone screen to reverb

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, Reverb shop is lower. Affiliate link is for you to buy anything anywhere and I get some commission.

  • @JJaguar333
    @JJaguar333 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s the actual difference between these and a SUB? Have ordered a sub for NZD $785 but the Ray24 comes in at NZD $1199 and is in stock.

  • @adammadtin8451
    @adammadtin8451 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Isnt the ray24 a much thinner neck at the nut?

  • @revlewisrees9880
    @revlewisrees9880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I couldn’t decide whether I preferred the Sterling or the Ernie. It depended on what settings you had and what you played.

  • @lv_ciano
    @lv_ciano ปีที่แล้ว

    wich pot with humbucker in parallel? 250k or 500k? wich one is better with e better response wich 0.1mf tone cap?

  • @akpolatbaran
    @akpolatbaran 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which model of ray24 would you recommend? 5 strings or 4 strings?

  • @jeanguycaissie3085
    @jeanguycaissie3085 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Music man got that punch love it

  • @Mr.P001
    @Mr.P001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At the sale price a no brainer

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed, it's quite the healthy discount at $380!

  • @jmsmikey
    @jmsmikey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never understood the Music Man bridge pickup sound & why it's so popular. I wish Leo had just made it like the L1000. I had to wait a few years, but I bought one of the first L2000 basses when they came out.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Donny Benet's Mr. Experience answered that question for me and now I'm an addict... I have a problem, jmsmikey.... I have a problem.

  • @horrorshowbass
    @horrorshowbass 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    12:55 walkabout :)

  • @Bankniftysurgeon
    @Bankniftysurgeon 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Suggest me best bass under 500-600$ funk style