I’ve had one for more than 30 years now; it’s been idle for a long time since I went the PC way - but now it’s being used again and it’s a heck of a development there still is for these. It’s an exiting time and an amazing product, refusing to draw it’s last breath! :-D
Great video as always Doug. I did see a CDTV specific version of the TF536 on Amibay awhile back. I don't have a CDTV, so did not look in to it too much. Maybe it was designed a bit different to fit the CDTV better.
Hey Doug, I'd love to see some games and software running on the CDTV that take advantage of the 030, have you tried games like Citadel (ReMonstered), Nemac IV, even ADoom running in Extra HalfBright mode would be interesting to see.
The CDTV does have two awesome examples of what might have been. Defender of the Crown CDTV with its spoken narrative and Xenon II megablast with Colin the shopkeeper and the soundtrack are excellent examples of ‘multimedia’. If just they could have added more gameplay into DOFTC and improved the hitbox detection in Xenon II. Perhaps this could be retrospectively improved?
Good examples for sure. I just love the Xenon II soundtrack! There were a couple titles that were "Almost there" - but I suppose companies were dealing with new technologies and limited budgets
Doug, have you found a solution for the tf536 fitting? I'm considering removing the ice header and relocating it via cable extension. I know someone made a CDTV version of the tf536, but hell if I can find it anywhere
The price shocked a lot of us back in the early 90's... But if you look back just buying a CD-ROM for a PC could set you back $500. It was all so new then too - software publishers just did not know how to take advantage of that space and power. Not sure if they do even today!
The TF cards are good products indeed; I have a 534 myself in an A500. However, it’s kind of amusing seeing the speed in Sysinfo compared to a Pistorm, which at the time being gives me a speed close to 1,700 times that of an ordinary A500 on my CDTV… and it’s way cheaper than the TF’s. 😀 I do hope it’ll soon be possible for it to handle bus arbitration though, but except for that it’s a darn good product (and even gives more than 300 MB of Fast RAM, wi-fi, etc… c”.)
Oh for sure! I have to figure a way to keep the TF 536 low enough to close the lid. My CDTV is part of my entertainment center and needs to look pretty!
Just because I suppose. Not sure what else I would do with it. And 72 MB of FAST RAM is way cooler than 64 MB! The Tinfoil shirt was OK on Future Doug, but his pants were straight from a Raider from Fallout.
@@10MARC You want the RAM board in for the SCSI controller. The SCSI controller can't see the 32-bit RAM so it will DMA into slow chip ram without the 24-bit fast RAM installed.
Two possibilities on the RAM expansion issue: 1. You had a bad connection (it happens) 2. The new ROMs and/or Workbench needed to configure for the upgrade card "on installation" and thus didn't agree with having it installed already. Number 2 is one that a lot of auto-detect systems suffer, and I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. p.s. might be fun to upgrade that video RAM to 2MB if you can find a way. Also, seeing if you can wire in RGB output and program in the appropiate scanlines and output gamma for ATSC video. As a note, you can create a lateral extender for the IDE header that will offset it horizontally and lower it.
I am leaning a bit towards the underused expansion port just passing signals from the 68000 socket, and when a 68030 is introduced maybe the wrong data is passed. It continues to work great when I just have the 68000 installed.
Never had CDTV, would be cool to own. Cool video!
I’ve had one for more than 30 years now; it’s been idle for a long time since I went the PC way - but now it’s being used again and it’s a heck of a development there still is for these. It’s an exiting time and an amazing product, refusing to draw it’s last breath! :-D
Future Doug has got a sort of star trek '60s vibe, i imagine people in the sixties all thought in the future we would wear shiny things like that 😂
Maybe we will see "Future Doug" again. I was glad to see I don't age too badly in the distant future.
Commodore CDTV. Bucket list updated. That S-Video was seriously nice.
Nice! Enjoy your CDTV!
Great video as always Doug. I did see a CDTV specific version of the TF536 on Amibay awhile back. I don't have a CDTV, so did not look in to it too much. Maybe it was designed a bit different to fit the CDTV better.
Someone messages me about that on Facebook! It looks pretty useful - the IDE is positioned sideways instead of vertical.
Would really love a CDTV-CR. If only they released it instead of the original. It would've been a LOT more successful.
Very true. I can't imaagine more than a few prototypes were ever made. I still like my CDTV, though.
Thank you Doug excellent learning Video. Cheers
Happy to do it! I have been meaning to do this upgrade for about 8 months now.
Hey Doug, I'd love to see some games and software running on the CDTV that take advantage of the 030, have you tried games like Citadel (ReMonstered), Nemac IV, even ADoom running in Extra HalfBright mode would be interesting to see.
I will have to try some out!
More CDTV ❤
I have a bunch of fun with mine. More videos to come!
IMO the CDTV is the best looking piece of kit Commodore came out with. The black 1084 monitor, keyboard, and mouse along with it, is amazing as well.
The CDTV does have two awesome examples of what might have been. Defender of the Crown CDTV with its spoken narrative and Xenon II megablast with Colin the shopkeeper and the soundtrack are excellent examples of ‘multimedia’. If just they could have added more gameplay into DOFTC and improved the hitbox detection in Xenon II. Perhaps this could be retrospectively improved?
Good examples for sure. I just love the Xenon II soundtrack! There were a couple titles that were "Almost there" - but I suppose companies were dealing with new technologies and limited budgets
21:55 Looks like you just need a hood scoop, Doug!
That would look pretty sweet!
Doug, have you found a solution for the tf536 fitting? I'm considering removing the ice header and relocating it via cable extension. I know someone made a CDTV version of the tf536, but hell if I can find it anywhere
why did commodore decide to mount the motherboard near the top of the case. Would of been better on the bottom.
Good question. Not sure why they did it that way. I suppose they never expected tall expansions
CDTV was another lost opportunity for C=. Might have been good. Thanks for the vid.
The price shocked a lot of us back in the early 90's... But if you look back just buying a CD-ROM for a PC could set you back $500. It was all so new then too - software publishers just did not know how to take advantage of that space and power. Not sure if they do even today!
The TF cards are good products indeed; I have a 534 myself in an A500.
However, it’s kind of amusing seeing the speed in Sysinfo compared to a Pistorm, which at the time being gives me a speed close to 1,700 times that of an ordinary A500 on my CDTV… and it’s way cheaper than the TF’s. 😀
I do hope it’ll soon be possible for it to handle bus arbitration though, but except for that it’s a darn good product (and even gives more than 300 MB of Fast RAM, wi-fi, etc… c”.)
Yes, PiStorm is on a different level. It is equally as fun to use period specific accelerator cards with modern twists, too.
press the ESC button on the cdtv remote control
and see what happens
I will have to try that out
What tv are you using Doug?
That is a Sony Bravia from about 2007. It is quite nice!
Looks like a cool upgrade, but I really like having the lid on my CDTV and the dust bunnies on the floor where they belong. ;)
Oh for sure! I have to figure a way to keep the TF 536 low enough to close the lid. My CDTV is part of my entertainment center and needs to look pretty!
Sordan has "Amiga 500 68000 Straight CPU Processor Riser Relocator Adapter" I'd drop some links but TH-cam seems to hate them. :(
Why bother with the 8mb once you have the TF? Just curious.
Also “future doug” has the best clothes I’ve ever seen!!!!
The 8MB will just slow down your system. So it's pointless.
Just because I suppose. Not sure what else I would do with it. And 72 MB of FAST RAM is way cooler than 64 MB!
The Tinfoil shirt was OK on Future Doug, but his pants were straight from a Raider from Fallout.
Maybe... But with how Amiga prioritizes RAM it should not make much difference.
@@10MARC You want the RAM board in for the SCSI controller. The SCSI controller can't see the 32-bit RAM so it will DMA into slow chip ram without the 24-bit fast RAM installed.
Two possibilities on the RAM expansion issue:
1. You had a bad connection (it happens)
2. The new ROMs and/or Workbench needed to configure for the upgrade card "on installation" and thus didn't agree with having it installed already.
Number 2 is one that a lot of auto-detect systems suffer, and I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.
p.s. might be fun to upgrade that video RAM to 2MB if you can find a way. Also, seeing if you can wire in RGB output and program in the appropiate scanlines and output gamma for ATSC video.
As a note, you can create a lateral extender for the IDE header that will offset it horizontally and lower it.
I am leaning a bit towards the underused expansion port just passing signals from the 68000 socket, and when a 68030 is introduced maybe the wrong data is passed.
It continues to work great when I just have the 68000 installed.
Love how the languages options say America not English.
Now it should be changed to 'Murican and have an eagle and a flag on it